Honda SS50 engine strip down, rebuild and start

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

In this video I strip down and rebuild a 1974 HONDA SS50 4 speed engine showing the problems I found and how I fixed them.

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  • @Banditmanuk
    @Banditmanuk2 жыл бұрын

    What a great job. Bought back some great memories for me, had C50s as field bikes and as a lad I damaged to gear selector so pulled the engine apart on my dad's workbench. I struggled to get it all back together and eventually gave up. The following day on return from school I found my dad had rebuilt the engine from the scattered parts and it worked perfectly. He was a great guy and he had my total admiration.

  • @PAULSWorld131

    @PAULSWorld131

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a true father. You were blessed

  • @Banditmanuk

    @Banditmanuk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PAULSWorld131 Still miss him

  • @Farweasel

    @Farweasel

    2 жыл бұрын

    At the other end of the scale ...... My CB 250 K1 was giving me no end of grief and then the geabox went. I hadn't much time or money to sort it when I got the offer of a Honda 90 'sport' - esentially the big brother engine to this one. It was a great little town bike until one day it stopped. Couldn't work out why: Spark -check, Fuel - yeah could smell that when I took the plug out. I was starting to loosen the first of the head bolts when my mate pulled up and asked what was going on - I explained. He shook the bike. Silence. No sloshing petrol sound. The thing had such phenomenal mpg I had totally forgotten I needed to sometimes put petrol in. Still We get all this political bleating about Carbon this and electric that to save the environment ...... all too stupid to recognise that really frugal engines have been kicking around for over half a century.

  • @99cachorro

    @99cachorro

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PAULSWorld131 My dad was great too, but a drunk, not mean but a happy drunk. Everyone liked him, sad he's gone.

  • @stuckintheeighties487
    @stuckintheeighties4872 жыл бұрын

    Most people would take photographs when dismantling, you just chuck things in a box knowing exactly where they go back. The rebuild was a joy to watch. One of your best videos, ironic really, considering this humble little engine compared to your more well known projects. Your mechanical knowledge and expertise is just fantastic. Great video

  • @K1lostream

    @K1lostream

    2 жыл бұрын

    I suppose once one has made a couple of 100cc v-twins out of these things, one knows them well enough to build them blindfolded!

  • @markserbu

    @markserbu

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not knocking his obvious mechanical genius(ness?), but he DOES have a video of the dismantling. 😀

  • @Spazik86

    @Spazik86

    2 жыл бұрын

    This guy rebuilds an engine more easily, than most people do an oil change :-D

  • @sfbfriend

    @sfbfriend

    Жыл бұрын

    LOL, got that right! I'm one who needs to photograph every step.

  • @jx14aby

    @jx14aby

    Жыл бұрын

    It was like watching a guy rebuild a watch.

  • @MegaPeewee2010
    @MegaPeewee20108 ай бұрын

    Really nice to see you using ZX1 oil in the re assembly process of the engine.

  • @neilwhat
    @neilwhat7 ай бұрын

    Just started watching and broke down in tears. Took me straight back to me and my best mate in the shed on numerous tweaking and re-builds in the early 80s. Unfortunately lost him last year to Cancer and this just hit me hard but in a brilliant way. Thank you.

  • @Taz6688
    @Taz66882 жыл бұрын

    Brings back nightmares, spent some time carefully rebuilding one of these little beauties, got it back in the bike for someone to ride for work, very carefully explained the need to "run it in" and bring it back for a service after a hundred miles, they brought it back broken, said it went like a rocket almost 50 mph and 60 down hill, piston scuffed, bore scuffed, rings broken, they had caned the nuts out of it.

  • @AllenMillyard

    @AllenMillyard

    2 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant

  • @MOFTV
    @MOFTV2 жыл бұрын

    I'm struck by the overall high quality of the engine and how well it's survived since 1974. What nice little bikes they were.

  • @babaganoush6106

    @babaganoush6106

    Жыл бұрын

    These honda engines were jewels particularly the 50cc overhead cam. I wish I’d had this video when my pc50 blew when I was 16 in 1974.

  • @jakerazmataz852

    @jakerazmataz852

    Жыл бұрын

    @@babaganoush6106 My sister had a Trail 50 I think. 3 speed, no clutch. ran like a champ.

  • @IanGrant-qj6jp

    @IanGrant-qj6jp

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, and still are, We get some of them in The Distinguished Gentlemen's Ride here in Chch , NZ. I have also seen a few in Classic motorcycle events too .

  • @Liesthroughisteeth

    @Liesthroughisteeth

    8 ай бұрын

    Many of these little bikes were only ridden a matter of hours every year for a few years.

  • @grahamhill6616
    @grahamhill6616Ай бұрын

    Allen, that seemed as natural & effortless as a stroll in the park to you. Always a pleasure to watch.

  • @5naxalotl
    @5naxalotl2 жыл бұрын

    there should be more of this sort of engine in the world. there are tons of cheap little engines, but this is about as small as you can get, while having 4-stroke + gasoline + independent oil. a genuine workhorse that is efficient, quiet and doesn't spray oil into the atmosphere. i wish they could be more ubiquitous, and more people had the expertise to keep them running forever

  • @martin-vv9lf

    @martin-vv9lf

    8 ай бұрын

    the manual transmission helped too because it could be push started.

  • @bufalong

    @bufalong

    6 ай бұрын

    people use car now some country in asia and sea use motorcycle daily

  • @don7406
    @don74062 жыл бұрын

    Those small Honda engines bring back a lot of great memories. Thanks for sharing.

  • @sambrooks7862

    @sambrooks7862

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think most of us of a certain vintage broke our cherry on a 50 cc honda.

  • @cambridgemart2075

    @cambridgemart2075

    2 жыл бұрын

    The sound of a little Honda 4 stroke running without an exhaust is unmistakable!

  • @wouterswanepoel5753
    @wouterswanepoel57532 жыл бұрын

    How damn interesting! Turning 16 years old in 1970, I was blessed with a brand new Honda SS50 for my birthday. What a beauty she was ... blue with all the chrome on the mudguards and the slightly higher handle bar. I was the envy of all my mates! Having lived on a farm 16 km from town, the bike was like a gift from heaven! I cannot tell you how much convenience, joy and pleasure that little bike brought me! VERY cool video Allen! Regards from South Africa.

  • @Interdiction

    @Interdiction

    Жыл бұрын

    I would have been filled with embarrasment . We used to pass these bikes CYCLING

  • @wouterswanepoel5753

    @wouterswanepoel5753

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Interdiction Really? I cruised around comfortably on the level at 70 km/h, downhill anything up to 100 km/h. Those were just fantastic little motorcycles. In later years I owned a 175, then a 200, then a 450, then a 750 and finally, as I aged and my need for speed decreased, I now own two 150 cc scooters. 😉

  • @quikun3703

    @quikun3703

    6 ай бұрын

    I have a honda dax (st50). Same engine as this one. I bought it when i turned 18. Last year. I absolutely love that bike.

  • @TheSillybits

    @TheSillybits

    Ай бұрын

    @@InterdictionI pass many parked vehicles when cycling, even when walking.

  • @jetskifisher7825

    @jetskifisher7825

    29 күн бұрын

    Same era, 1974 I had a brand new yamaha fs1e, my best mate had the same bike as you, great times, great memories 👍

  • @johnnoble01
    @johnnoble01 Жыл бұрын

    Did a few miles with an ss 50 when i was 16. Brought back some fond memories of 78.

  • @ohudraza1885
    @ohudraza18856 ай бұрын

    i am glad that some one posted a vid on this engine with this much detail now i think i can rebuild my grandfather's bike.

  • @AllenMillyard

    @AllenMillyard

    5 ай бұрын

    Brilliant

  • @ohudraza1885

    @ohudraza1885

    5 ай бұрын

    @@AllenMillyard my dad is not giving me the engine sad, well ill try to convince him again

  • @Philip-hv2kc

    @Philip-hv2kc

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@ohudraza1885 you probably know already but Lifan clones of Honda engines are available

  • @johnwelburn9966
    @johnwelburn99662 жыл бұрын

    Always amazed how easy Allen makes everything look really enjoyable to watch

  • @David-sb7vg
    @David-sb7vg2 жыл бұрын

    I was well above my pay grade watching this Allen. The thing I love about your videos is there’s no disasters, no yukking and no unparliamentary language!

  • @siehmichjetzt
    @siehmichjetzt2 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Millyard, you are an absolute marvel. I am in absolute awe of your skills, both as an engineer and craftsman. Your humility remains another of your trademarks and the down-to-earth way in which you comment and share your innovative, courageous projects speak for itself. Thank you very much!

  • @classicmusclecarexhaust1988
    @classicmusclecarexhaust19882 жыл бұрын

    Given the end results of this man's work, one would think he has full access to a state-of-the-art CNC machine shop at his disposal. Yet this project starts outside, in the backyard, on his knees using cardboard as a workbench. An ordinary Joe performing unordinary mechanical feats. All I can do is just watch and learn from this man's ability.

  • @stephenwilliams926
    @stephenwilliams9262 жыл бұрын

    My first bike I bought in 1978 was a seized SS 50 I payed £5 for the whole bike ! . Payed about £10 for new piston and ring's and got it running again so I know this engine well. Great vid .

  • @minorityofone1510

    @minorityofone1510

    2 жыл бұрын

    My first bike was a SS50 5 speed I paid £65 for. I also later bought a scrap 4 speed for parts. Wish I had kept them both!

  • @wiganer9912

    @wiganer9912

    Жыл бұрын

    I was given my SS50 as a non runner by a neighbour for free, managed to get it started with a bump, didnt need to do anything else 😁

  • @vonryansexpress
    @vonryansexpress2 жыл бұрын

    Fabulous little engine - little motors like this were the building blocks for the mighty Honda company that was to come - they deserved all of their subsequent success 🙌 👍

  • @Allan9966

    @Allan9966

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree, I have had a few bikes with those engines and they are just beautiful.

  • @Yelwas

    @Yelwas

    2 жыл бұрын

    When dear Mr honda-san first designed this engine, and sold them in Japan, he found a problem, apparently he visited every owner in person and fixed the problem. Now that is service you only find in Japan... How we love the Japanese.

  • @vonryansexpress

    @vonryansexpress

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Yelwas don't we just . . .

  • @paulhowlett4953
    @paulhowlett495310 ай бұрын

    It is amazing who people idolize and make heroes out of, and then there is you. You are inspirational. Thanks for the videos, they are like therapy.

  • @roberthorwat6747
    @roberthorwat6747 Жыл бұрын

    Superb rebuild and a brilliant tutorial, great stuff! In 1976 my Dad wouldn't let me take my SS50 engine apart. He knew who would be putting it back together (i.e. him). Also, despite the thrashings I gave it trying (and failing) to keep up with my mates on their fizzies and AP's, there was nothing wrong with it. Fantastic little engines.

  • @pat8988
    @pat89882 жыл бұрын

    Lotsa memories here. My first bike was a 1964 Honda 50 C110 (manual clutch). I put 25,000 miles on that bike using it on my paper delivery route. I once got a speeding ticket for 70 mph (I only weighed 110 lbs then)!

  • @kbjerke
    @kbjerke2 жыл бұрын

    Those little Honda engines are *SO* adorable!! And when you fired her up, reminded me of when I rebuilt my Honda 90cc (1967) engine -without any exhaust system - I love the popping exhaust note! Thank you so much for the video!

  • @stephenwilliams926

    @stephenwilliams926

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes that noise heard around canal towpaths and quarrys around the land in the 1970's. The first thing the kids did was remove the exhaust !

  • @jpkalishek4586

    @jpkalishek4586

    2 жыл бұрын

    1970 CT 70 for me.

  • @zweispurmopped

    @zweispurmopped

    2 жыл бұрын

    It sounded like popping bubbles, like a fart in the bath! 😂

  • @kbjerke

    @kbjerke

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zweispurmopped Yup. Made me giggle.

  • @ilovemybmwgs1200
    @ilovemybmwgs12002 жыл бұрын

    You're such an amazing engineer Allen,with a brilliant personality and love that you involve your wife. In these crappie times your videos are just what the head needs ✌

  • @gavinmathew7491

    @gavinmathew7491

    Жыл бұрын

    Spot on Dave.

  • @stevenclarke5606
    @stevenclarke56062 жыл бұрын

    I had a SS 50 back in 1977 , candy green, it became increasingly difficult to start, until it eventually refused to start . After taking the bike into a dealership, I was or rather my father was informed that it needed a re bore and new valves and piston , but after the repair it would start at the first attempt . The Honda SS 50 was tremendous fun a great little bike.

  • @markalton6258
    @markalton62582 жыл бұрын

    These engines are so familiar to me. It powered my first bike (SS50 4-speed) and my beloved "little donkey" (C70, with a 4 speed gearbox fitted). This was my standby and work bike for many years in my 20s. It broke my heart when it was stolen and trashed.

  • @lawts0908
    @lawts09082 жыл бұрын

    A fabulous little engine. My SS50 (4 sp) took me miles when I was 16 and to have a 4 stroke at that age was such a great education for a young lad.

  • @Jer0867
    @Jer0867 Жыл бұрын

    I loved watching this! My first bike (in 1983) was an SS50, so this brought back fond memories for me! Love all your videos, Allen...keep them coming! 👍😁

  • @gbass7328
    @gbass73282 жыл бұрын

    Those Japanese engineers were geniuses at these designs. I remember those engines on Honda 50 minibikes around 1970. Really great stuff!

  • @andyfarmer759
    @andyfarmer7592 жыл бұрын

    That takes me back to my teenage years. Great job. The SS50 was a lovely bike to ride.

  • @miyahampton

    @miyahampton

    2 жыл бұрын

    ?-))

  • @rogn100

    @rogn100

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had one too. Not sure it was lovely though! The CB125 that followed was one of my favourites. Now at 70, still riding but like the tractability of a 948 cc four!

  • @alextripp1230
    @alextripp12302 жыл бұрын

    Hi Allen, luckily the weather held off long enough to use the grass workbench (impressed with the cardboard worktop). What a lovely little engine that is, like a little sewing machine, looked very smart after being baked gently in the BBQ (Sorry..paint booth). Brilliant video thank you. Looking forward to the next one. Cheers, Alex.

  • @robertklein9190

    @robertklein9190

    2 жыл бұрын

    That why all the food he cooks on the grill taste and smells like High Heat Rusto-leum.

  • @cmuz0013
    @cmuz00132 жыл бұрын

    Allen, don't ever stop sharing your work with us...or your garden observations or your love of your missus ❤

  • @rodclaus2283
    @rodclaus22832 жыл бұрын

    Allen....After discovering your channel several months ago, your videos are breath of fresh air. You are much appreciated.

  • @KevinWoodsWorkshop
    @KevinWoodsWorkshop2 жыл бұрын

    I was surprised how good the condition was inside the engine and I was also surprised on the thickness of the gasket. Another great job you’ve done rebuilding this engine and thanks for sharing.

  • @CaptainDangeax
    @CaptainDangeax2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Allen. It seems so easy when you explain the action while being so precise when actually it is so difficult. I'm always amazed by people like you with such a high level of mastering their art

  • @robertreavley7145
    @robertreavley71452 жыл бұрын

    The unmistakable sound of a Honda 50 with no exhaust! Class build! Looking forward to the new 4 cylinder carb fitting Allen!! Thank you for another great video!!!

  • @arsenvokrug4198
    @arsenvokrug41982 жыл бұрын

    This was a real pleasure to watch. If I’d had this engine to bits, it would never live again. Allen’s bigger, more complex projects are just a form of wizardry to me!

  • @penskib1975
    @penskib19752 жыл бұрын

    Really well put together, and attention to detail. This will run for many years if looked after.

  • @scotterickson6332
    @scotterickson63322 жыл бұрын

    Allen Millyard is the Bob Ross of motorcycle maintenance and rebuilding. Thanks for your videos Allen!

  • @marthamryglod291
    @marthamryglod2912 жыл бұрын

    This is fantastic! I have a 1973 in the shed. Never had it apart but it's had a good life and now will have more to come. Thank you!

  • @tekboyg
    @tekboyg2 жыл бұрын

    A Honda c50 was the first engine I ever took apart. My father showed me the fundamentals of disassembly, overhaul and reassembly of four-stroke engines on a wee Honda. The lessons I learnt from him and these amazing little engines has stood me in good stead to this day. Happy times!

  • @ryancraig2795
    @ryancraig27952 жыл бұрын

    What a little gem of an engine. Nice to watch someone who knows what they're doing rebuilding an engine, for a change. There are a lot of amateur restorers on KZread who don't really know what they're doing. That's where engines like this, which don't work, with loads of gasket sealant, come from.

  • @tombailey6342
    @tombailey63422 жыл бұрын

    Thank-you Allen, yet again a really interesting video on the fascinating world of Japanese engineering/design and the unique Millyard ways..

  • @bryankerr9174
    @bryankerr9174 Жыл бұрын

    Wow. I have so much respect for mechanics. All those parts you have to organize and keep track of while working, it's amazing.

  • @larsfrandsen2501
    @larsfrandsen25012 жыл бұрын

    I said something similar in response to another recent video of yours, Allen. But I need to say again that these videos are just golden nuggets to us mere mortals. I had a Honda CD 50 when I was a teenager (You and I were born the same year, so you know how long ago that is), and I am brought right back to my childhood, watching this. Your videos are just so much more than an instructional on (Zen and) how to maintain a motorcycle. Someone ought to write a book about that (yes, I know 🤣) Anyway, just want to express my gratitude to you for sharing a slice of your life with us in your inimitable humble, yet supremely confident and humorous, English way.

  • @cubleycat
    @cubleycat2 жыл бұрын

    I used to ride one of these back in the early 80s when I was 16, this is bringing back some memories and the amazing freedom it gave me living out in the country side! That cylinder base gasket with make for low compression, it hasn’t been put together very well before you got it. This would have been such a useful video 40 years ago too.

  • @mikeymike3240
    @mikeymike32402 жыл бұрын

    Hi Allen, my first bike was a green 1969 Honda 50 and I loved it 😍 to bits, the freedom it gave me was amazing, no more bus’s and a girlfriend to keep the rear seat warm. It’s amazing how many friends come out of the woodwork when you get a motorcycle, even a lowly Honda 50, i couldn’t get enough of it, i was on it morning, noon and night, you’d have thought it was part of me, lol 😂 48mph and 75 mpg, it took 35p to fill the petrol tank 😂 , wish I still had her, my mother loved getting a backie on it, really put her in a great mood. I love watching these videos, it would have been great to have had these videos back then. At least I could service it myself and my mechanic brother could set the carb for me. Awesome video Allen. 😎👍👍👍🇬🇧

  • @tonymarkey6525
    @tonymarkey65252 жыл бұрын

    I had a 1974 SS50 when I was a lad. I never appreciated what a lovely and intricate little machine it was until I watched this fascinating vid. Thanks Alan!!😁😁👍👍

  • @fcbrants
    @fcbrants2 жыл бұрын

    I spent many happy days on a Trail 50 as a child - thanks for pulling back the curtain & showing us what's inside.

  • @richardarnold3812
    @richardarnold38122 жыл бұрын

    We surely need more engineers in this modern world, where are they?. great work Allen

  • @thomasmackenzie5295
    @thomasmackenzie52952 жыл бұрын

    Alan, these videos are exceptional and inspirational. Thank you so much for making them. They are just right and I am always well pleased with them. The genius of Honda san is evident and impressive.

  • @robertmoore2527

    @robertmoore2527

    2 жыл бұрын

    His name is Allen.

  • @thomasmackenzie5295

    @thomasmackenzie5295

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@robertmoore2527 I am truly sorry about this error on my part. Although I cannot change my past behavour, I will endevour to do better in the future.

  • @teneretraveller8980
    @teneretraveller89802 жыл бұрын

    That takes me back. I remember my brother doing just that to his 4 speed ss 50 nearly 40 years ago. Beautifully over engineered. A Swiss watch. What a clever man Mr Honda was. Thanks for sharing I enjoyed that. 👍

  • @FritzPinguin
    @FritzPinguin2 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful job! I remember driving a Honda SS50 from Saigon to Vung Tau and back in 1972. The bike was a joy to drive, the engine purring like a small cat. Thanks for reminding me.

  • @ambmainman
    @ambmainman2 жыл бұрын

    In 76 my dad bought me a 73 SS50 I rode it to work and even off road in a quarry the frame broke got fixed and still it took me everywhere, it was slow but so reliable and tough i have fond memories of it, it's nice to see one running again!

  • @MartsGarage
    @MartsGarage2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Allen. This took me right back. I had a honda 50 years ago as a schoolkid. I rode it on some waste ground at the back of our house. I took the engine off and put it in a little go kart I had made myself. It was an older model and had the cam in the crankcases. I seized it and stripped some teeth off the cam gear. Getting it running again was a real challenge for a 13 year old schoolboy. I enjoyed watching this one torn down and running again. It looked to be in pretty good condition. Take care. Mart in Solihull.

  • @JJLock
    @JJLock2 жыл бұрын

    That took me back 42 years to my own SS50 4 speed, and the bubbling sound they make with no exhaust on... thanks Al

  • @cyberyob
    @cyberyob2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video well done Allen. I got a brand new new SS50Z in 1976 (a 'super sixteener' as they were called along with the Yamaha FS1E and others. Your video show how the engine ticks in a really useful and accessible level of detail. Thanks so much.

  • @randomtraveler3363
    @randomtraveler33632 жыл бұрын

    Great video, you show how easy it is and not intimidating at all, to rebuild an engine. I'm working on an old 1971 Honda CB175, that I got in boxes. It's great fun to see it come together, Just finished the engine reassembly this morning. The rest will have to wait a bit.

  • @rattusnorvegicus4380

    @rattusnorvegicus4380

    2 жыл бұрын

    Back in `77, turned my L-regger into a cafe racer, c/w snazzy seat-tail unit etc and it didn`t half bark out through its 2 into 1 with megaphone. Used to turn heads....which soon turned back the other way when they realised it was only a CB175 approaching. Would redline the poor thing to death(pre acquiring a modicum of mechanical sympathy), and seemed to be replacing rings, pistons, valves and cyl head every month once it lost power with tell-tale oil vapour puthering out of the engine-gearbox breather. A mate back from Spain with some cheap smokes, popped into my garage to watch me assembling the engine, leaned over it as he popped a ciggie in his mouth, which promptly fell apart, depositing all the tobacco into the crankcases. Another strip -down ensued.

  • @TS50ER

    @TS50ER

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rattusnorvegicus4380 Now, that is a damn-fine Stranglers album.

  • @rikkwakeupwesternworld9874
    @rikkwakeupwesternworld9874 Жыл бұрын

    My father bought a new Honda 50 super cub when they first came out to replace his NSU quickly. What a difference, no pedals, an ignition switch with a key, indicators, mirrors and an engine that did not leak oil and best of all was reliable, a little treasure. It became the most popular bike in the world as Honda sold millions of them in South East Asia before they arrived in Europe or the UK. Your video is priceless and brings back many memories of friends and family who made comments like "Jap bikes will never last" the rest is history. Keep up the good work!

  • @joebufford2972
    @joebufford2972 Жыл бұрын

    Even these small engine builds. We love because you do everything by the book and overdo it. Thank you, Allen🎉

  • @jmcbike
    @jmcbike2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I remember rebuilding a S65 Honda engine that had damaged second gear dogs. One of my first engine repairs as a teenager, 55 years ago. The motor worked fine afterwards. The crankshaft needle bearings finally gave out (rod knock) and I couldn't afford a new crankshaft/rod assembly (the Honda dealer couldn't rebuild it). Today, I see lots of cranks like mine being rebuilt.

  • @Recoils-electronics-repairs
    @Recoils-electronics-repairs2 жыл бұрын

    brings back memorys of playing with these engines when i was a youngster spent many hours in my shed working on them :-)

  • @philw4053
    @philw40532 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to this! Long ago I stripped down a Honda c50 in my bedroom much to my mum's annoyance!

  • @ClassicRidesPhilippines
    @ClassicRidesPhilippines Жыл бұрын

    by far the most comprehensive tear down and build up of a small honda cub engine, and I've seen quite a few. thank you so much sir.

  • @philanders3705
    @philanders37052 жыл бұрын

    I tore down a Z50 engine as a teenager. I was amazed at how tiny the piston was and how much power It produced. This brings back memories of great times before responsibilities took center stage. Thanks!

  • @nicnak4475
    @nicnak44752 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant ! You make it look so easy Allen, I would never remember how everything went back together ! I would have to label everything and probably still get it wrong ! 😅 Thanks I so enjoyed the video.😁

  • @hotoilhands
    @hotoilhands2 жыл бұрын

    Good video Allen, very enjoyable. I've never had a bike with one of these engines but I've watched many disassembly/reassembly videos of them online. I find the simple but tough design of these particular engines make for good viewing. Cheers.

  • @stealthynoodle2707
    @stealthynoodle27076 ай бұрын

    I love how informative and detailed everything is explained in these videos you post. Trying to inform myself on the ins-and-outs of these engines. I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one confused on wtf crocheting is, I see it and feel like I'm trying to understand rocket science.

  • @liftrucs
    @liftrucs8 ай бұрын

    Such a pleasure to watch you work Allen

  • @jaykay643
    @jaykay643 Жыл бұрын

    A 1970's Honda 50/70 engine and doesn't look like its changed much in 50 years. Amazing how they got it right so long ago. This is an excellent and interesting how-to video. The sound of that engine brought instant memories...I remember Mini-Trails seemed loud for 50cc.

  • @tristan6509

    @tristan6509

    Жыл бұрын

    They still make this exact same engine btw, the Honda CD70 motorcycle is still sold in Pakistan ever since the 1970s, but the last underbone/supercub with this engine is the 2013 Honda EX5 Dream sold in Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, etc. And while the updated EFI engines look similar externally, all of the internal components are different. This is made to comply with emissions in countried that has euro 3+ emissions standards, on countries with little to no emissions Honda still make the old C-series engine.

  • @jackking5567
    @jackking55672 жыл бұрын

    My first bike was an SS50! I really wish I still had it - great on fuel and quite quick for a 50 as it was unrestricted.

  • @tannenherz

    @tannenherz

    2 жыл бұрын

    High, today i use the following motor-model, the type FMB139, but made in China. It is with 12Volt and an e-starter.Kindly Fiete

  • @truck57us

    @truck57us

    2 жыл бұрын

    So was mine in 1973! Bored it out to 72cc later and was great to ride in Belgium (when it wasn't raining ! :)

  • @tannenherz

    @tannenherz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@truck57us High, i've 72cc too yet :-) Kindly But i've more than one.Fiete

  • @peter7624
    @peter76242 жыл бұрын

    Lovely job. What a nice little engine, so well designed. Glad to see I'm not the only one who seldom uses a torque wrench. Practice makes perfect!

  • @ABFCUT
    @ABFCUT2 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff. Brought back memories from my first involvement with a motor that was a three gear Sachs 48cc engine. I disassembled the engine block with no previous knowledge about engines, ignition or carburettors and the little thing started first time after reassembly.

  • @richarddunkling2807
    @richarddunkling28072 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video Alan - like many others in the comments it brought back memories from my youth. My first bike as a sixteen year old was a nearly new metallic blue Honda 5 speed SS50 Reg XYO 76G. Unlike the later model (with pedals?) for a 4 stroke 50cc it was reasonably nippy. I think it could make about 55mph with a following wind going downhill. I am tall and sat bolt upright with just about room to tuck my knees under the handle bars. Not much room (or power) for a pillion. Was jealous of a school friend who had a 5 speed SS90. At the time I had a genuine Honda workshop manual and I learnt a lot from maintaining it and the occasional strip down. Seem to recall SAE 30 oil was recommended in the day. Unfortunately the bike and workshop manual are long gone but still have the service tool in my shed.

  • @robertmoore2527

    @robertmoore2527

    2 жыл бұрын

    Allen

  • @donplenderleith6044
    @donplenderleith60442 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I had a '68 Honda CD90 which had the same type of engine. I never got as far into it as you did, but I didn't need to; it ran like a Swiss watch. Two things are amazing about these little Honda horizontal singles: 1) they are sophisticated beautifully designed engines for their day (OHC, 4 speed, good internal lubrication) and foretold the greatness that was to come to Honda which carries on today, and; 2) rural communities in Asia still use those Honda singles for individual and family transportation. I have seen families of 4 all riding on Honda 50, 70 or 90s going about their errands in Indonesia. Honda used those reliable little bikes, and the as slogan "You meet the nicest people on a Honda." in the '60s to change the image of motorcycling and win over the mass market. Kudos to Honda, Kudos to Allen!

  • @johngibson3837

    @johngibson3837

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey Don far as I remember something like 50 million were made, had a 65 and ran it on methanol smelt nice but did not last that long

  • @petecurran3995
    @petecurran39952 жыл бұрын

    Always awesome to witness your rejuvenatory conquests, Allen. Great work! 👌🏻

  • @nicobogaard2315
    @nicobogaard23152 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely great I drove a Honda SS50Z from 1974 until 1978. Thing went like a rocket! Greatings from Almere, TheNetherlands

  • @pjb5757
    @pjb57572 жыл бұрын

    Another great video, its always good to watch people who know what they are doing. This brought back many happy memories of me as a kid working with my dad on engines in his very small garage - great times. Happy new year to you both from NZ.😉

  • @pshivjee

    @pshivjee

    8 ай бұрын

    Very true indeed great 👍

  • @dustymiller7758
    @dustymiller77582 жыл бұрын

    Great entertainment as always, that little engine sounds fantastic and started so easy. Thanks for sharing.

  • @CiderPang27
    @CiderPang277 ай бұрын

    That grinding paste brought back memories from when I used to service generator and mixer engines over 30 years ago. Great to see the old engine starting first time. Brilliant job!

  • @thanasisthomas1294
    @thanasisthomas12947 ай бұрын

    Οτι ποιο ωραιο εχουμε δει ! Ο απολυτα μηχανολογικος σεβασμος σε ενα τελειο δημιουργημα! σας θαυμαζω ! Αξιζετε πολλα μπραβο ! Ο ηχος του μου θυμησε το πιστο αλογακι μου που χρονια με πηγαινε οπου ηθελα , να ειστε παντα καλα σας ευχαριστω!

  • @richardshilling2958
    @richardshilling29582 жыл бұрын

    Allen absolutely loved that video. Love these engines as have owned c50 c70 and currently a c90. Great job. 👍

  • @MM_in_Havasu
    @MM_in_Havasu2 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed this video immensely, reminds me of the old Honda 50/55 pushrod OHV engines, worked on my share of those! Fairly simple engine, not much to them, and bulletproof. Thank you, Allen!

  • @tonycamplin8607

    @tonycamplin8607

    2 жыл бұрын

    I share your memories.

  • @moestrei

    @moestrei

    2 жыл бұрын

    Push rods? Apart from the CX500 I thought all Honda engines were OHC or DOHC.

  • @tonycamplin8607

    @tonycamplin8607

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@moestrei Yes definitely, the early 50cc Honda engine was pushrod operated.

  • @moestrei

    @moestrei

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tonycamplin8607 Thanks....I learned something today.

  • @cedriclynch

    @cedriclynch

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tonycamplin8607 The early Honda 50cc with pushrod valve gear was called the C100, sold in the UK from 1963 to about 1967 when it was replaced by the C50 with the overhead camshaft. The SS50 in this video was a "sixteener special" introduced in 1972 after the minimum age to ride a motorcycle other than a moped was raised to 17 in December 1971, that had pedals so as to meet the legal definition of a moped until the definition was changed in August 1977. The SS50's only real weakness was the piston rings, which would break if the engine was grossly over-revved (although I think the ones in this engine were broken by clumsy assembly technique; over-revving broke them at the ends rather than in the middle. I think the rival Yamaha FS1E was the only sixteener special on which nothing broke if it was over-revved; the engine would withstand a speed higher than the speed it would reach on full throttle with no load.

  • @rockrollarc9792
    @rockrollarc97922 жыл бұрын

    I would like to say thank you so much for uploading this video. I have a honda monkey 125cc that died on me 7years ago and I never found the courage to strip it apart but after watching you I feel a little more confident. 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @freddy7700
    @freddy7700 Жыл бұрын

    Dear Allen, it is so nice to see, that you have even joy with a 50cc engine and not only with the big busters. Love your channel. Excellently!!!

  • @stepheno1870
    @stepheno18702 жыл бұрын

    Great upload, amazing amount of parts for something so small, hours of fun doing what you’ve just done indoors on a coffee table, closest I can come is doing a Vespa PX200 which isn’t even close to the engineering marvel of this engine!! 👍 marvellous

  • @anthonycarty9433

    @anthonycarty9433

    2 жыл бұрын

    Vespa's are great engines , just not as many parts . Not as good as a Lambretta though .

  • @menom7
    @menom72 жыл бұрын

    Wow,Awesome video Allen!!! My 10 yr. old son has a Honda 70cc engine that's basically got the same layout as that 50cc engine of yours! I watched very carefully how you took each piece apart,cleaned,lubed and put em all back together again! Great job!!! Thanks for the info. Hope Tracy is making cupcakes in your next video!!! Lol. : > )

  • @whitedovetail
    @whitedovetail2 жыл бұрын

    The very first motorcycle I drove was a Honda 50 SS. This was back in 1966 when we lived in Peru. I then drove a Honda 50 Step-through. The last motorcycle I owned in the late 90's was a Suzuki TL1000R. It was a monster!! It was very interesting watching you break the engine down and then put it back together. Some of those parts were tiny! This was the first video of yours that I have watched. So I am now SUBSCRIBED and am looking forward to watching you do your magic. And yes, I am a late 60's male who lives in the USA. Great work!!

  • @JohnWicksdogwalker
    @JohnWicksdogwalker Жыл бұрын

    What an absolute joy to watch on a bleak January afternoon 👍 Fond memories of having a C50 back in the mid '70's.

  • @briantheminer
    @briantheminer2 жыл бұрын

    You make it look sooooo easy 😂 I loved how the exhaust manifold nuts started tightening themselves as you revved it a bit

  • @dejonsmall9886
    @dejonsmall98862 жыл бұрын

    Allen, it is indeed a pleasure watching you work. So refreshing from 99% of the Bloody Crap on KZread. Keep up the good work...

  • @dcxplant
    @dcxplant Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I am ready to take my Z50AE engine apart for a rebuild for my winter '78 Z50 restoration. I would have liked to have seen you put the gears together. There are other places to see that but what I get from this content is your shop practices, which are top-notch and very helpful as I contemplate my engine rebuild. I will be doing it all myself.

  • @dennisbrouns1920

    @dennisbrouns1920

    Жыл бұрын

    Check out mini motor man for the gears

  • @workhorse401
    @workhorse4012 жыл бұрын

    Allen, you sir are a gem. You prove that to be a gearhead you can still be a gentleman.

  • @TheMissendenFlyer
    @TheMissendenFlyer2 жыл бұрын

    That was brill Allen - I have no idea how you get those back together again and to hear it run was hilarious....brilliant vid mate!

  • @AllenMillyard

    @AllenMillyard

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s quite easy really 🤔

  • @HalfdeadRider

    @HalfdeadRider

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AllenMillyard Adults Lego, certainly kids play compared to the other things you do, but still great to watch.

  • @jimclements3190

    @jimclements3190

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AllenMillyard Fairly I'd say, when I attended secondary school in the mid 70s we had a lesson twice a week called Applied Technology and it was great, we did all sorts but my favourite was the engine strips and rebuilds, wonder if they do anything like that in school today? 🤔

  • @TheMissendenFlyer

    @TheMissendenFlyer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jimclements3190 .....I can pretty much guarantee they don't - they don't even have metalwork shops at our local comp....(or woodwork for that matter, or indeed a TD room or typing pool..!!). "Progress" I guess!

  • @robleary3353

    @robleary3353

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheMissendenFlyer Sadly, probably why we are a throw it away when it breaks and buy a new one society.

  • @assessor1276
    @assessor12762 жыл бұрын

    Great job Allen - such a nice simple little engine! I’d be keen to learn more about how you adapt the frames of your multi-cylinder bikes to the engines you create. For example, how do you fit four and five cylinder engines into frames designed for twins and triples? My key query is about the front down tubes and working out the routing of the exhausts.

  • @StonyRC
    @StonyRC2 жыл бұрын

    It's almost (but not quite) annoying because you make everything look and sound so EASY! What a great little engine - thanks for doing something out of the ordinary.

  • @keithgray7593
    @keithgray75932 жыл бұрын

    Great video! It was so good to see this small engine taken down and rebuilt to such a nice standard. It looked like a really solid little engine, so typical of Honda.

  • @Arlurt
    @Arlurt11 ай бұрын

    Your video has prompted me to rebuild the 4 Speed SS50 engine I've had under the bench for years. Thanks. 😊

  • @scoldingwhisper

    @scoldingwhisper

    4 ай бұрын

    how did it go?

  • @charlesdunn4634
    @charlesdunn46342 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for yet another great video Allen. My dad bought me a blue Honda SS50 in 1970 that I always kept in immaculate condition and when I out-grew it I could not get myself to sell the bike so I handed it over to a Transport Museum. I have no idea where the bike is now but hope it is still in good hands.

  • @tyson69.
    @tyson69.6 ай бұрын

    Your video was incredibly helpful! I own a 2015 Honda CD 70CC, and due to its age and rough usage, it needed a rebuild. Despite visiting multiple mechanics in my town, none managed to rebuild the engine the way I desired. Your demonstration provided the clarity I needed. Next time, I'm determined to tackle the rebuild myself, following your guidance step by step. Thank you for sharing this invaluable knowledge!

  • @kenshort5109
    @kenshort51092 жыл бұрын

    As a proud ss50 rider from the 70's, that was a most satisfying way to spend 20 mins on a Monday evening. Wonderful.

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