Really like this maxi Scooter and can see myself owning one (or something similar) one day..great review Angus

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Thanks really glad you enjoyed the review 👍 Yes they are really impressive and so practical as well

Don't apologise for not wearing 'proper' gear. It only gives certain people an excuse to attack you more. It's your risk - let them eat cake.

@redangrevival

9 ай бұрын

Thanks, yup it opens it up for people to complain I agree! Cheers

Great review, waiting for delivery of mine, should be mid September. Really looking forward to it.

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Many thanks I appreciate it 👍 Hope you enjoy yours

@supersecretninjame

Ай бұрын

More comments = more profits. Keep them triggered

For these larger machines I think the term 'automatic motorcycle' is surely more accurate? It does need cruise control and an adjustable windscreen to really take on the Tmax though.

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

I think they still qualify as a scooter! Just a very capable one, that can take on most motorcycles. Yes, however I really preferred the ride of this Honda over the T-Max. The Honda quality shines through. Cheers

@180fxr

10 ай бұрын

@@redangrevivalscooter has cvt

@brunopierric4751

3 ай бұрын

​@@180fxrce n’est pas un cvt c’est une boîte double embrayages...

@180fxr

3 ай бұрын

@@brunopierric4751 bro nobody cares about french learn english

@brunopierric4751

3 ай бұрын

@@180fxr 66 ans ton frère 😘

It's chain drive which is a bit silly. Needs belt drive

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Yes I agree, a belt would be much better

@J2I3H

10 ай бұрын

Do you mean a variomatic gearbox with belt or a belt instead of the chain? Its a dct, so actually just a motorcycle in scooter form, chain drive puts the most power to the ground.

@edgybikercop

10 ай бұрын

Yes ! a belt. What is the point of having a Forza if it comes with chain maintenance.

Found your channel looking for reviews on the speedmaster. Problem is im thinking about trading in my forza 750. 😂 first world problems!!! I really dont want to add another bike because ive got too many but the forza is great. Decisions decisions. And now youve made it harder in a good way. I might have to add on. Cheers. Good review.

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Thanks and welcome to the channel 👍 Haha yes definitely first world problems. I can highly recommend the Speedmaster, mine has been excellent. You only live once, make the most of it! Cheers

Great review. I was really tempted by one of these last time I changed my bike. Even with a whole raft of accessories, it still comes in a lot cheaper than the Tmax. There's a £3,200 price difference between the two and the heated grips (as an example) are £300, so you could kit one of these out, how you wanted it, and still almost certainly have a good amount of change from the £13,800 price of the Tmax. The only fly in the ointment in relation to the value money of this bike is the company's own NC750X Dct, which is nearly £2k less for a bike, which is mechanically identical and offers most of what the Forza does.

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍 Yup this is definitely the scooter I would pick, even without the accessories! I suppose it depends wether you want the extra ease and practicality of the scooter over a motorbike. But yes that is a good point. Cheers

@brunopierric4751

3 ай бұрын

Le nc 750x n’a pas la fourche inversé, un seul disque de frein av. Il n’à pas non plus le système keeless d’où la différence de prix...... Tableau de bord basique sur le nc !! Les 2000€ sont justifiés

I think this video says a lot about British attitudes to scooters. People assume they're inferior to manuals, so when you find a good scooter it has to be "more than a scooter."

Angus, great video and location. I’ve agonised over this, the X-ADV and TMax. Each has it’s merits. The Forza should have heated grips and cruise control as standard for that price point and an adjustable screen (even the 350 Forza has that). That weight is also high even if carried low. The TMax is much lighter by comparison. I’d probably go for the X-ADV for the better suspension travel, wider bars and slightly skinnier profile. Enjoy Spain!

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Thanks really glad you enjoyed the video 👍 Yes its a tricky one. Money no object I would go for the X-ADV. However I feel like the X-ADV is not a "pure" scooter. I would have the Forza over the T-Max, just felt better quality to ride. Many thanks 👍

@ianross225

10 ай бұрын

@@redangrevival Pretty much where I am. A friend has an X-ADV and TMax and loved them both. Both have done track days. He’s sold his bikes which didn’t get used and has a 701 SM as the occasional bike fix.

I had an xmax 250 and will do 80% of this bikes capability for lot less dosh and still cruise at 70 and easy maintenance belt drive. Barce looks gorgeous

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Yes it is a lot of money! I do think the Honda quality really shines through though. It just feels more substantial than a lesser cc scooter imo. 👌 such a nice city

@donjackson4563

5 ай бұрын

How much does one of those go for?

Is it a scooter pretending to be a bike or vice versa ? May be a fine last two wheeler. Tan is coming along . 😉Lucky you, great local and review, as usual. I hear local wine is not bad, Cheers 😎

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

I think it is a very capable scooter 👍 It has all of the practicalities of a scooter, but rides like a quality motorcycle. Haha yup hard not to get a tan out here! I shall certainly be sampling the local produce, cheers

Vaguely sensible! Love it!

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

👍😂

I have the forza 300 and I love it

@brunopierric4751

3 ай бұрын

Oui pas le même usage

Waiting for this one here in ph ❤

I would be interested to test ride. I only past my test a couple of years ago at the age of 57 because I wanted a Vespa 300 gts (which I got then sold). I have had an adv 350 for about 6 months and am very happy with it, especially the underseat storage which is about twice the size of the Forza 750 I think. Only downside of adv350 is a fairly firm rear suspension. Like a few other people have said, would be nice if Forza 750 was belt driven...... Decisions decisions 🤔

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Yes not being belt driven is definitely a down side. I think you would be nicely surprised by the engine in the Forza 750, however if you like the lay out of the X-ADV then perhaps try the X-ADV750. Brilliant bike/scooter

Bienvenido a España!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻✌🏻🙋🏻

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much 👍

You talked about protection. It looked like you needed some sun cream on those arms🌞

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

😂 Yes I did catch the sun!

It’s the same as the XADV 750 and although they look like scooters they are in between given they are essentially an NC750 underneath dressed as a scooter. They don’t have the usual scooter engine layout it’s a motorbike one, chain driven not belt with better motorbike suspension. Not sure about the size of its wheels but think the XADV has a 17 front 15 back so again not quite scooter sizes.

@redangrevival

9 ай бұрын

Yes they are all so similar! Great platform to work with 👍

I can’t wait till we have a fully adjustable power command for this dosile scooter

@redangrevival

19 күн бұрын

That would be brilliant 😁

I thought I was impressed with the Suzuki Burgman 400, which I own, but wow this scooter is amazing.

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Yup this really is another level up 👍 Top quality

Lended made me laugh dude 😂

@redangrevival

5 ай бұрын

😂

I love it.

Should have a belt. As for the NC 750 and ADV-X.

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Yup I agree, would be much better and easier to maintain 👍

Having owned a Africa twin with DCT, not for me I'll take a belt drive cv drive any day of the week. As for the cost of repairing a DCT its telephone numbers 😮

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Yes I must be honest a belt drive would be much better 👍 I would hope the DCT is very reliable

@volt8684

10 ай бұрын

I owned a 21 plate nc dct and I sold it after 3 months. Also own xmax. Imo ur point is bang on. Belt drive easily worked on, change ratios, my dct nc used to be unruly in mountain hairpins both up and down and yes there are the paddles. I formed the opinion the dct as in many cars will fail. There are very few people that have knowledge to repair/diagnose. A lot of car manufacturers are going back to torque converter autos. I felt my nc was flimsy in gearbox dept so got out. However had belt drive scooters for years. I love them plus no chain to clean/adjust. Belt change at 12k.

Y gracias por los subtitulos en español 👍🏻

Only high power Maxi scooter we get in the US is the AK 550. I'd buy this or the Tech Max if I could 😭

@redangrevival

6 ай бұрын

A shame they don't sell these in the states! They would be so popular 👍

I’m beginning to really appreciate the larger capacity bikes (scooters). They’re so much fun and very practical. Enjoy the holiday, sorry ‘work’ trip 😎😉

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Yes having ridden a few of these larger scooter now, I can really appreciate them. Very capable machines

All good with you buddy ? not seen much of speedy lately

@redangrevival

9 ай бұрын

Hi, I am all good 👍 thanks for asking. Just very busy working so unfortunately KZread has had to take a back seat for the time being. I hope to be back on Speedy asap

Once I drove in Spain wearing a t-shirt in 40 degrees celsius. It was horrible and very painful, like having my arms in an oven.

@redangrevival

Ай бұрын

All depends on the individual I guess

If we could get them in Austalia I would buy one

You have to do xadv next

@redangrevival

9 ай бұрын

I have done it already. Take a look in my channel reviews 👍

The Honda integra is a 5k cheaper option second hand

Pls give out of box comments not repeated other earlier 750 forza review

To be a serious year round commuter it needs cruise and heated grips as standard and most of all it needs belt drive, a chain is ridiculous in this day and age.

@redangrevival

3 ай бұрын

I agree for sure, especially in the UK!

@ 02.16 you appear to have ridden past two 'No Entry' signs and the wrong way down a one way street? 🤔

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Yes it seemed to be the only way out! And I did see other cars use it 🫣

@jimnolan9757

9 ай бұрын

Who cares!

@paulharrison8155

9 ай бұрын

@@jimnolan9757 Ooo Jim you’re such a rebel 😂

Good review. One thing that says scooter to me is a belt drive. Otherwise, I don't see the point of buying a scooter.

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Yes that is a downfall of this scooter. However it does have other benefits I think. Like storage, manoeuvrability, practicality etc...

A great bike, Honda reliability is assumed. A big ticket to match. US starting price $13,720.00. Not sure how many I will see on the roads here.

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Yes it is very pricey for a scooter! However it is a very nice bike to ride, and extremely practical 👍

Great video, please wear riding gear including gloves mate 🙏

this one or xdv can you help me which to buy?

@redangrevival

Ай бұрын

XADV 👍

@petarst

Ай бұрын

@@redangrevival thank you bro

Are they bringing it to the states?

@redangrevival

5 ай бұрын

Tbh I am not too sure! They should

😅Honda Forza… I never rode a scooter since the early eighties. They seem to have come a long way. I would need to test ride this and a NC750X back to back to see what’s more to my liking. MotoGP is in town and you’re reviewing a scooter… why? 😅 Have a brilliant trip and stay safe! Cheers, Lupo

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

I didn't have time to visit the GP! Such a shame. Really depends on what you want to use the bike for. The Scooter is fantastic for in and out of town, and more practical than the NC. Cheers

Forza 750 its not scooter lol its motorcycle with scooter plastics custume, the front suspension sytem its from 1000 cbr when you drive it you will understand it i own it from 16 may last year i had scooters for 8 years not even close to this worth every cent best fuel consumption cheap maintenance for the category the engine its from car Honda jazz can easy hit 500,000 at least

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

I personally think it is classed as a scooter, but it is just a VERY good one!

Great review, however, and as much as it is already stated - for the Love of God, wear protection. Madness.

Forza 350 at @13:37

Because it is indeed not a scooter. A typical scooter usually has a CVT transmission, so fuel economy would be better but is boring, but Forza 750 uses a DCT so basically you can regard it as a NC750X packed into scooter panel

@redangrevival

9 ай бұрын

Yup thats right. However I think most people would regard this as a scooter. Great machine whatever category it falls under

Make this with three wheels so any car license holder could buy one without have to jump through hoops to get a bike license and they will sell in droves.

Chain sucks. It should have belt drive. Storage is probably 25l not 22?

I'd rather have the X-ADV750, although that's too expensive, too. My choice would be an NC750X. Better value. I like the idea of riding in manual mode and changing with the paddle shifter in the city, then reverting to auto mode on the open road. It's up to you what you wear. No need to explain, Red. Nick J

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Yes I would also prefer the XDAV, however it is as you say more expensive. Also I'm not too sure how to categorise the XADV!

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Cheers

@user-sw2lv3zp6o

10 ай бұрын

@@redangrevival A hybrid: half bike/half scooter.

@jimporter

9 ай бұрын

X-ADV 750, Forza 750 and the NC750X are all built on the same platform with the NC being cheaper because it has a number of cheaper components (dash, single front disc, steel swing arm instead of alloy and no upside down forks).

@user-sw2lv3zp6o

9 ай бұрын

@@jimporter That's right. The swingarm is ugly and the screen doesn't adjust. Cheap handlebars, too.

The scooter is great, but the price is high compared to other scooters, anyway it carries the most reliable brand logo... Honda, Thanks for the review

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

It is my pleasure, glad you enjoyed the review 👍 It is a high price, but top quality

No cruise control option at all. So an NT1100 is more universal thing. Almost same weight, DCT, cruise control, heated grip, better wind protection, more convinient seating position and more power for open road. ;) And you have panniers in the price and can buy the 50 l top box. Maybe the 750 engine is smoother in the city. But you won't by this bike only for the city and than it lacks...

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Yes I would personally have the NT1100, however if you want a scooter this is a great option 👍

@joaoroman9583

10 ай бұрын

The problem with the NT compared to this is that it feels a less premium bike. But you have to ride both to understand. Also when u say this lacks beyond the city what u exactly mean? Top speed? Cruise speeds around 160km are easily made but top speed is higher. Wind protection? Better on the forza. No engine heat at all also compared to the NT. But again one have to ride both to feel the differences. Also, NT dct version is 4000€ more than the forza

@viktorbenedek868

10 ай бұрын

@@joaoroman9583 I mean, beyond the city it is weak (tested). Takeovers are not so safe. Wind protection on any scooter type thing is worse, because wind can bother your legs more than on real touring bike. Longterm sitting position is not convinient to your back. Engine heat of course is more on bigger cc bike, but less then other touring bikes, never was a problem on this. Not a bad bike, but my problem always was that it is not a scooter (small storage room) and not a real bike. But it is a good transporting wehicle from A to B.

Lended? I thought that was "LENT", no?

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Haha yup it still is Lent!

how can you watch the Expertise about bikes from a guy who dont even ware gloves. seriosly, on a bike which he never rided before.

There is no cruise control for this. Heated grips are extra, no heated seat option, only 22l under seat storage, no adjustable screen and its chain drive. Sorry but Tmax is far better, costs more, but you get more. I did look at Forza, but went for Tmax. Tmax also very well built , handling and performance excellent. No contest imo. Enjoy your reviews, but not agreeing with this one I'm afraid 👍

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

That is fair enough, the T-Max does have much more tech. I just preferred the overall ride of the Forza. Honda quality finish with that great engine matched up to the DCT gear box just felt better to me. Really depends on your preferences I guess. Cheers

@carpediem9944

6 ай бұрын

Both first and second gen. Burgman 650 had electrically adjustable windscreen and folding rear view mirrors, heated seats and grips. Funny that it's optional on a flagship Honda or any other top model almost 15-20 years later. Otherwise a good bike this Forza 750.

I hope you're wearing sunblock,at least ???😮

@redangrevival

3 ай бұрын

Of course!

I love car

Portrait mode, and constantly skipping ahead :( I’m out.

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Ok

You must not like having skin on your hands and arms.

This video was just so SAD, yes we all know it is your life and we have every respect for you but basically, on the biggest video channel on the planet, I believe, you have shown all those up-and-coming new bikers a shameful way to go about things - all your excuses do not exonerate you from your responsibilities at all!!

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

Have you ever ridden a motorcycle in Barcelona in August? Almost everyone wears no safety gear. I just got back from Greece and they don't even wear helmets!! I would never recommend anyone, especially a new rider to do this. This is a real life review, and I think it gives the viewer a genuine viewing experience.

@garethtemple6242

10 ай бұрын

That's a rather sanctimonious view to take. The choice we make to ride bikes, rather than drive a car, is a very significant one, in terms of risk to your personal safety, relative to which, your choice of clothing is a much smaller one. No one would actively encourage riding without proper gear, but at the same time, we've all done it, particularly when it's hot. As it was pointed out virtually, no one wears full gear in Mediterranean countries.

@drdoolittle5724

10 ай бұрын

Shame I did not get my point across - we all do what we like, it was the showing the world by a respected KZreadr how not to go about things!@@garethtemple6242

@redangrevival

10 ай бұрын

🙌Thank you@@garethtemple6242

@2wheeledwillie395

10 ай бұрын

Come on Dude!! Go to Milan or for that matter any large city in Europe, they all ride round it T shirt and shorts! We're all adults and we all can choose to wear what we want...if you watch other reviews he's done in the UK he's always wearing proper bike gear so to pick on this one (where he's clearly on holiday) is SAD

TOOOOO MUCHHHH MONEYYYYY

@redangrevival

5 ай бұрын

Yup it’s a lot for a scooter!