What would you choose? The Honda ADV 350 or Honda Forza 350? Let us know in the comments!

@derbyshireruralrider9398

2 жыл бұрын

Had mine since March and it’s fantastic. I’m also 5’6” in height and no problem out on the road, my only difficulty when I first got it was manoeuvring round tight space in my back garden as much larger than my old 125. I prefer it to the Forza as I feel it’s more capable of rough ground, as you say not for green laning but just for roads in poor condition. I was torn what to buy but was influenced by a friend having an X-ADV; got full licence but don’t want anything physically larger. Also influenced by every KZread review being positive. My onboard video camera is on the mirror and I was disappointed with my filming compared with rack mounted one on old scooter so I swapped foe one with image stabilisation. As the name of my channel suggests I’m happy on country roads than motorway riding and this scooter is more than adequate for my needs. Last few videos are the ones taken from my ADV

@benjiblanco2808

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve ordered the ADV. Honda unable to estimate delivery but I hear it could be as long as December.

@derbyshireruralrider9398

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjiblanco2808 it was about weeks for me. Biggest issue was changing insurance over as IT system went down for about 5 days at Motorcycle Direct so I was forced to cancel and buy a whole year’s cover with a different company. To rub salt in the wound they refused to refund a fair proportion of cover. One to avoid

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear you've got your name down for one, hope you have some positive news soon regarding delivery!

@piotrbieda5912

2 жыл бұрын

Xadv all day 👍

Thanks for the video, here are my random thoughts after owning one for over 3 months and having done some road trips covering rural, B and small A country roads fully loaded with pillion and top box. Note i have no real knowledge of mid sized scooters so these are opinions based on years of experience with sport bikes and supernakeds. My wife love's this form of transport and is wanting to do more having lost interest in the bikes i have owned for some time. Fuel consumption on a run going with the flow of traffic is around 85 mpg (i think the supermarket E5 higher octane fuel helps both economy and drive when fully loaded). The handling is a stand out feature - lots of ground clearance and good fun through the bends - just watch out for bumps mid bend. Front brake seems to split opinion, for me it is just adequate and i may upgrade the pads in time. Suspension is clearly on the firm side particularly at the rear this is normal to what i am familiar with but i'm sure experienced scooter riders may complain, for me the compromises scooters have to make at the rear with all that weight of the engine makes this an acceptable compromise particularly with the gains in handling. Top box and storage are a revelation after years of strapping stuff on, I particularly love the smart top box that locks itself when your away from the bike, its expensive and big but i'm so glad i went for it as opposed to the heated grips that are also expensive and beautifully integrated but ultimately should be warmer. The screen causes turbulence for my head position at any height but is better at its lowest setting it's another area that i will look into once the aftermarket parts get going, from memory the Forza was miles better for having a smooth air flow and also offering better general protection. The bike is seriously substantial with as good a build / components that you could hope for the price. The bike has road presence that encourages bikers to nod and deters other road users from trying to overtake you. Overall i feel this was money well spent and i could not realistically have hoped for a better machine, the ADV is well built, fun at legal speeds and just makes me want to ride - many people seem to like mid sized scooters for town work, personally i find this style of machine a little large for that use and prefer exploring the countryside. Hope this helps anyone considering one.

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your opinions from an owner's perspective!

@romanslejska766

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your experience, very well written. Do you remember where there is more room between the knees and the handlebars? Forza or ADV? Thank you.

@Tim955w

2 жыл бұрын

@@romanslejska766 I am prety sure that the ADV has noticeably more room, i also felt that my bum was closer to the handlebars, i just kept wanting to sit further back. Others have also commented about the extra room the ADV has - mind you the weather protection is not as good on the ADV. Hope this helps.

@LydonLewisDoUbLeZz

Жыл бұрын

Definitely helped! May get this over the burg 400, especially since even though it's 50 ccs less the engine tuning sounds like it exceeds the 400 in performance even at higher speeds!

Just did the Mae Hong Son loop 2 weeks ago on this ADV350. I can testify this is an awesome bike. Power is more than sufficient, engine is smooth. The underseat carriage is amazing. Braking is adequate. Just change to sinister pads if you require more power. One only complain. The suspension does take its toil on your back after about an hr on the road thou. It’s quite hard. All in all it’s an awesome bike.

@roniam

Жыл бұрын

@Simon Teo I'm Glad you commented. For some time I was bouncing back and forth between choosing the Forza 350 or something like the Versys x300 based on *wants vs *needs. I *want a little adventure and back-roads that can be mucky here and there - like Mae Sot back road to CM. But I have intermittent health considerations (and age related response times I think) that make the ease of automatics and also the moderate size of 300/350 probably safer - maybe a *need in the not-so-distant future. To the point then; I started to get excited about ADV 350, but after this review I am wondering how it will handle some of the intermittent mucky stuff. I had already thought of changing up the tires to a slightly bigger bite keeping in mind effect on the ride on pavement. Quite comfortable on my NMax(s) going back and forth CM to Maha Sarakham strictly highway but wanting a little more casual and back road 'ish trips. Any experience with mud/dirt stretches? Anyone?Thanks.

Very complete review. Thank you very much !

@BikeMatters

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Loved the review man and it's a cool looking scooter.

@BikeMatters

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It is.

Picked up my grey one on Saturday, first ADV 350 in southern Ireland. Rode it 250kms home, motorway and back roads. Don't find the suspension that bad on Irish (off)roads and I am coming from a newish GS 1200. Have to watch power when overtaking but other than that she is excellent. Cruises no problem at 120kms and so versatile and light weight for around town. Will not be venturing too far off road. Hope the seat breaks in a little 🪑 No voice control here app but you can hack..

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear, and what an awesome maiden voyage!

Had one of these on order in the UK since April, but was told last month I may have to wait until 2023. So I now have a Kymco DT X360 which was delivered in just 2 weeks. Lovely bike, slightly less tech but feels lively and agile - more like my old J300 than the Forza 300 it just replaced. No regrets.

@davedavis7589

Жыл бұрын

the regrets start when you try to sell it....

I'm glad I've run into this thanks for your review. I lost my burden six fifty in twenty seventeen that thing was perfect for me, and the fact that they've discontinued it adds to the pain of missing that bike. I was considering the new 400 but it's not that new when referringtothedrive train. And from what you're saying even with 50 less C c's This thing may accelerate better than the Bergman 400, I'm loving the technology and styling on this thing so i'm definitely going to have to try and find one and take a test ride!🤟🏾👍🏽👌🏾

This was a great review

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much - appreciate it!

Great review about a super bike mate! I have a Honda Forza 350, which after 14 months of ownership, I highly rate. I wouldn't swop the Forza for the ADC because I love the electric screen, which is so useful, also I like analogue dials. I think both models are crying out for 'standard' heated grips and a larger fuel tank. Both models (and also the Honda SH350i) share the lovely 330cc engine, which I think is an absolute gem. It is such an improvement on the 279cc engine that it replaced (my previous bike was a SH300i), with better mid-range performance and super economy. On a run, I can get over an indicated 85mpg, which some 125cc machines would struggle to achieve. At the end of the day, both the ADV and Forza are great bikes, with the former being more stylish and the latter more practical. Whichever model you choose, you will not be disappointed and be surprised what a great all-rounder these bikes are. They will handle a long run with ease and are a great commuter. I've held a full motorcycle licence for over 44 years (silly old fart) and the Honda Forza 350 is one of the best bikes I've owned!

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts on the bikes, glad to hear you like them so much too.

@podunkman2709

2 жыл бұрын

"Larger fuel tank"? For what. You can make 300km with just one tank. Electric screen seems to be great but in reality it shakes and make so terrible noise - this part definitelly needs improvement.

@pompey174

2 жыл бұрын

@@podunkman2709 'larger fuel tank'' for a longer range. I think a 15 Ltr tank would make a good improvement in range. I have not found the issues with the electric screen you mention. I ride with mine in the lower position, most of the time, but raise it to reduce wind blast or if it's raining. I have not experienced the shakes or 'terrible noise' on my bike, there is obviously a difference in the ride when the screen is up, but nothing to really complain about. It might be worth checking your screen is fully secure and the fixings are tight.

@geoff6942

2 жыл бұрын

I too had an SH350 and thought the engine superbly smooth. I then went for the Forza 750 which turned out too heavy for me at advanced years. I've now ordered a Forza 350, (rather than going back to the SH), as I think it may cruise at high speeds better, aerodynamically.

@pompey174

2 жыл бұрын

@@geoff6942 I found the SH more nimble in the city but the Forza better on a longer run and certainly a better handling bike.

I bought this 10 days ago on Koh Samui, Thailand, on the road price 194,000 Thai baht, which is 4628.50 pounds at today's exchange rate.

@lomate1963

Жыл бұрын

Bargain enjoy it 👍🏻

Struggling to get the Karoo street tyres for the ADV Any recommendations for all riding conditions

It's looks have definitely grown on me too. Not a bad price too.

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Typical, Honda ticking a lot of boxes!

Absolutely love it does it all only things I will change a better screen and change of exhaust I'm so glad I have it and from my tracer 900 which I loved just love the ADV 350

@shino8854

2 жыл бұрын

Don't you find it underpowered coming from a tracer 900??

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear, thanks for the comment. What colourway did you get?

@ChrisJones-ct7xw

2 жыл бұрын

@@shino8854 just seen this I do but for what I use ADV it for its copes well from.commuting to overtaking just does everything I ask

@ChrisJones-ct7xw

2 жыл бұрын

@@BikeMatters got the silver love the colour

.I've.got the honda forza 300 and looking to trade in for this 👌

Kymco DTX360 review next pls? And a Honda ADV350 comparison would be much appreciated. Regards from PH 🇵🇭

@BikeMatters

Жыл бұрын

DTX360 Review: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rImTy6apgd3VpdY.html&ab_channel=BikeMatters

Really fancying one of them,particularly at £10 a feckin gallon!

@johnbellamy6449

2 жыл бұрын

our son 49 has one on customer order since april ,may be sept.

That's an amazing road presence for a 350

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

It is a great mid-sized maxi!

Ordered mine in March, sadly now looking at a revised September delivery. It'll be great when it's here 😁

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully, you'll have a positive update soon. What colour did you go for?

@johnbellamy6449

2 жыл бұрын

hang in there.

@davidshires9595

2 жыл бұрын

As I wrote above, ordered mine April and I've just been informed it'll now be February next year 😠

@roelvanes1711

Жыл бұрын

@@BikeMatters silver as I can't stand the matte schemes. Possibly late August still.

@roelvanes1711

Жыл бұрын

@@davidshires9595 sadness, apparently the bikes are mostly built but they are suffering severe component delays...

Anyone know of a way for me to import one of these? I'm in the US!

I got a forza because I'll not go off road . Both look great though

Excellent review! Flaws: very small wind screen and too firm rear suspension which can really cause u lower back pain! Other than that a great good looking scooter with a very good engine!

@mikees60

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree about the rear suspension.

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! it is a firm ride for sure

@johnbellamy6449

2 жыл бұрын

i always ride with the screen right down.

@Anton-.

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnbellamy6449 not very convenient for a long ride though!!

@inquisitive1911

Жыл бұрын

@@BikeMatters Can the suspension be softened on the ADV 350 and on the Forza 350?? Thanks. Love from Scotland, x.

Bought mine 2 weeks ago and agree with your review, especially the front brake, not a real problem just feel it could be a bit better. I’m 5’10 and the bike seems a bit tall to get on and off but starting to adjust to that, it could be that I’m 70 years old also and a bit stiff at times. Watch the jokes boys!😅 one issue I don’t hear a lot about is the rear fender, it does not provide protection for the passenger from mud being slung up while raining, or cow manure for that matter, don’t ask, that’s an issue that must be fixed on my bike or my wife will have my neck! Long story short, I love this upgrade from my 125cc I had for 9 years! ❤

@BikeMatters

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

Had mine for a year now and can't find anything to beat it.

cant wait for it to come to the US

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Fingers crossed for you! What colourway would you opt for?

@moparjalopy8223

2 жыл бұрын

@@BikeMatters red

Are you a red coat? “Tell your king, Scotland will not be ruled by England.” - William Wallace, Braveheart. Good review. I have a used 2018 Honda Forza 300 (279cc). I am debating to choose to upgrade between these two.

I can't see getting this over the Forza. Just the screen and instrument cluster put it ahead. Haven't ridden either yet but soon.

@Moleskineman

Жыл бұрын

The suspension beats the hell out of the Forza, plus the wide handlebars make it a lot more comfortable on longer trips.

@davedavis7589

Жыл бұрын

Forza's are great, if you like riding an old bathtub - the ADV is like riding an auto adventure bike ...

@frankstocker5475

Жыл бұрын

The closest thing to a motorbike with great storage.

Love mine, however. After only 185 miles of ownership I got an unrepairable puncture in my back tyre, after contacting 5 honda dealerships not one could source me a replacement, so I had to switch both tyres and I am now running Michelin City grip 2. Come on honda, these are consumable items!!!!!

@gingergranttech

2 жыл бұрын

You are lying .

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@mikees60

2 жыл бұрын

@@gingergranttech sadly not.

@benjiblanco2808

2 жыл бұрын

Karoo street tyres in 14 or 15 not available in any online tyre store in UK when I checked last week.

@davesy6969

Жыл бұрын

I've had a lot of weird punctures over my 40+ years of biking and i haven't found one yet that couldn't be patched from the inside, which is expensive if you get a bike shop to do it. If you still have that tyre I'd get it patched and keep it as a spare.

Rumor has it we get these for 2024 in the US unless Honda screws us again. Would be a nice addition

Let’s review the Honda Vario 160 next. 😍

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Not a bike we get over here in the UK sadly!

@ROBB_DEEP

2 жыл бұрын

@@BikeMatters You can’t import? 🤔

What’s the width size comparison to adv 150

@podunkman2709

2 жыл бұрын

Noticeably bigger

Because of import duties and monopolies. H bike always sells at overprice in my country.

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

That's such a shame!

Distracting generic background music. Would have been worth watching otherwise.

I can’t wait to get one but it’s not that easy to get one why is that👴🏻

there is no more adv 350 in 2023 only adv 150 in the united states?

I wish I could get my hands on it, deposit paid and ordered on March 21, no sign of it yet and getting info off Honda uk non existent.

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Great choice, fingers crossed you get some positive news on this soon! What colourway did you go for?

@adrianstrand1120

2 жыл бұрын

@@BikeMatters Thanks, I chose the metallic grey.

@johnbellamy6449

2 жыл бұрын

ditto

@davidshires9595

2 жыл бұрын

Ordered mine April 4th from Notts UK, been told February 23 ..... !!

@adrianstrand1120

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidshires9595 I mistakenly got my order date wrong, I actually ordered on April 15, yet my dealer has no idea when delivery will occur, yet you’ve been told February 23, I’ll go see my dealer tomorrow.

🙏🏼 🇺🇸

The moment Honda makes start/stop on 350s like they gracefully do on 125s I'm gonna buy SH350. Why SH and not ADV or Forza you ask? Tunnel is the answer. I don't want to step over the damn tunnel. Tunnel on a scooter for me is like a girl with short hair - not what you really want. Thumb up for this one.

Nice scooter but just can't understand why Honda thinks a screen is a suitable replacement for analogue dials ? it looks so horrible and cheap. That's just my opinion.

I can’t wait to get my hands on one but it is not that easy to get one why is that👴🏻

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

It's difficult to get your hands on most models at the moment with how the world is sadly. What colourway would you go for?

Price

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

Mentioned in the video

$29,000 Singapore dollar in Singapore

@davedavis7589

Жыл бұрын

that's FOUR times the price that they are in Thailand ...

@MrAtomUniverse

Жыл бұрын

@@davedavis7589 Yeah mate, i just bought it few months back, after insurance , road tax, and all , around $29,000 now haha. Can't wait to get the hell out of this place, looking forward to japan.

Was looking forward to this scooter till you told the size of the gas tank 11 liters that is way to small for a scooter that size, WHY DOSE HONDA KEEP PUTTING SUCH SMALL GAS TANKS ON THER BIKES. I was already to get the NC 750 till seen the small gas tank on it, where is there head at, do they only want to sell to short range riders who like to stay close to gas stations and not hit the roads less traveled

@podunkman2709

Жыл бұрын

11.7 liters is a lot. There's no reason to carry more fuel - more weight, bigger consumption. Good that producers do not allow you and others burn fuel without any sense.

I will sell mine...

Very important thing missing - parking brake...

@stevebrinkley1169

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve owned Burgman 400’s for years and in that time have used the parking brake about 4 times so I don’t see this as an “important thing” tbf. Plus the adv is about 50 kgs lighter than the burgman so a parking brake is likely to be used even less👍

@piotrbieda5912

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevebrinkley1169 You could use your parking brake each time you park your scooter on the side stand for safety reasons especially parking on the slope. Also riding in hills when I stop to check something on the sat nav / phone I have to look for curb or something similar to stop the scooter from rolling down. That’s obviously my opinion you have your🤷‍♂️.

@podunkman2709

2 жыл бұрын

@@piotrbieda5912 Depends where u live. On flat terrain this is like useless most of the time (remember it has etra weight, price and requires service).

@piotrbieda5912

2 жыл бұрын

@@podunkman2709 extra weight would be probably no more than 1.5 kg if so, equivalent of motorcycle helmet. This is scooter not a sport bike where every kg matters. And servicing, how often do you service your hand brake on your car?

I so regret buying the forza 350

The ADV150 is all we get in the United States but it’s light and nimble, gets 85MPG, costs $4200 and does 65 mph. Not sure the ADV350 is worth it at double the price, less MPG and of course heavier

@dank9288639

Жыл бұрын

it's worth it man... think about it, more stable and more power. 6mph is good for around town. But get on the freeway hell noo

@davedavis7589

Жыл бұрын

i've owned both - the 150 is like a child's toy compared to the 350

side pANEL STORAGE DID YOU SAY?

@BikeMatters

2 жыл бұрын

There is a glove box on the back of the leg shield.