Homelander doesn't deserve vengeance, but John does.

@arei2911

Ай бұрын

Tf is the difference tho

@magnumdopest9161

Ай бұрын

@@arei2911 John meaning Homelander when he was a kid. He didn't do anything to deserve what he went through. WhereasHomelander as an adult is a monster so he doesn't really deserve a chance at revenge or betterment.

@wrongcountry2528

Ай бұрын

😊😅🎉 1:42 ​@@arei2911

@daninduthiwankadhanawardha515

Ай бұрын

Well, they both are the same. But different ages😂

@Brucieboy-f9q

Ай бұрын

They are the same person tho

The guy who called in sick must feel like a million dollers now.

@meraculus-zn3zx

Ай бұрын

ah yes dollers, nicee i love my "dollers"

@omegaomg175

Ай бұрын

Yeah pal we know you took this from someone else

@Narc0YT

Ай бұрын

It was Barbara who called in Sick who came back towards the end of the episode as far as I understood

@jakegarman4526

Ай бұрын

Imagine being in the bathroom the whole time.

@Springerzzz

Ай бұрын

stolen comment

Saddest part is not one of the scientists showed any remorse for what they did to Homelander. They only apologized when their life’s were on the line

@boogboog8097

26 күн бұрын

Seems a bit like the covid experiment.....😮

@offbrandfiji6487

25 күн бұрын

I doubt it would have mattered

@themaker2149

23 күн бұрын

​@@offbrandfiji6487 it might have not saved them but it may have mattered in the long term

@GoodAvatar-ut5pq

22 күн бұрын

There's a flaw in your thinking. It implies that if you apologize earlier than that, it will be ethically superior. Or maybe it would be better somehow. Or maybe less cruel, somehow? Instead, it would attract his attention. And Homelander likes to rip the wings off of the flies he's paying attention to.

@brybry6669

22 күн бұрын

Just like everyone.

This is yet another reminder that Vought is the true villain of the Boys, they literally made homelander into what he is today and they're responsible for 99% of all the bad things that happened.

@Taospark

Ай бұрын

Homelander could have turned out far worse or not even survived.

@rasimovungernsternberg300

Ай бұрын

@@Taosparkwhat can get worse than this even if they go with the route of “homelander could have been dealt a worse hand than what we actually got” he would go on the path of exacting his revenge and subsequent vengeance on humanity. He was always cruel and never understood what humanity stood for, because he only saw humanity through the scope of violence.

@oess855

Ай бұрын

@@Taospark and would've probably turned out great like superman if he was raised properly by loving parents

@wolfsoldner9029

Ай бұрын

Sadly this shows narrative shifted towards framing right wingers.

@geistescrashednana933

Ай бұрын

Of course its their fault. Ppl are not born with that kind of character. I'm actually surprised how civilized homelaner is when you think about what vought did to him. Just compare him to sam from gen v who is an actual maniac after a similar experience

vought basically made homelander the strongest supe on the outside but also the most mentally broken man on the inside

@ericluo28

Ай бұрын

ye its said later on in the same episode that vought hired a ton of psychologists to make homelander dependent on adoration and love

@jabrondestoroyah

Ай бұрын

They could have avoided ALL OF THIS by giving him a normal home. Yes his parents would be fake like the ones from Irredeemable but he would still be a human being. Then again it would make this show too much like Irredeemable but oh well

@hell1942

Ай бұрын

​@@ericluo28can't imagine that worked out too well

@ericluo28

Ай бұрын

@@hell1942 it worked out great for vought the corporation. the strongest supe in the world dependent on the love and adoration of people who have no other way to hurt him. HL was scared of stan edgar the normal human. for 20-30 years HL was pretty compliant when their last iteration(soldier boy) had to be kidnapped and shipped off to the russians. obviously not great for the scientists here but vought doesnt care

@bullymaguire4431

Ай бұрын

Vogal bomb realised that after seeing how sick homelander was . That's why he let rayan to stay with his mother in a loving environment not in lab like his dad

I have been at the mercy of "men just following orders", never again. - Magneto I was just doing my job. - Frank

@wolfsoldner9029

Ай бұрын

Everybody is a redditor now.

@Dalex1910

Ай бұрын

only Magneto cared for others and even if flawed wanted whats best for his people. Homelander is a just a narcissistic sociopath.

@uci-fer5825

Ай бұрын

Homeland Was Right!!!

@CCCCCCCCCCCCCCC7

Ай бұрын

bro thought "yeah others like me will find this deep" LOOOL

@17-MASY

Ай бұрын

​@@imposteramogus2167So what? Media is inspired by real life

For Homelander, it was years of nightmares and trauma. For Frank, it was a Tuesday. Crazy how sides of stories happen like this in real life.

@tobishades

Ай бұрын

Now it's the other way round

@Magmava

Ай бұрын

​@@Sirzhukov I read "For frank, it was a Tuesday" on like 5 different comments. It's getting kinda annoying

@ihatedaviddobrik9999

Ай бұрын

Bro you’re just stealing what u saw on other videos 😂

@Raaz8080

Ай бұрын

@@Magmava Fr bruh its getting on my nerves how stupid these people are they should have known that it was clearly a Wednesday

@HolyknightVader999

Ай бұрын

OF COURSE.

No wonder Homelander is a narcissistic sociopath, he's literally gone through the most pain anyone has ever experienced, since he can essentially stay in a furnace for hours without any damage to his nerves, just hellish torment on earth.

@thebyrdcage8619

Ай бұрын

Yeah, now I'm kinda rooting for him to destroy all of vought.

@maverickmurphy

Ай бұрын

Right? He had a severely traumatic childhood. No wonder he turned into this.

@ck5004k

Ай бұрын

Literal definition of hell.

@claytonalert4560

Ай бұрын

​@@davidnelson7607Don't be like that bro, your comparing a grown man to a child.

@maverickmurphy

Ай бұрын

@@davidnelson7607 it's definitely worse if it's done to a kid. Childhood is the years when the personality develops. Adults process trauma very differently.

Funnily enough, this is the most deep human emotion Homelander has ever let himself genuinely express.

@Lance37a

Ай бұрын

He seemed to feel bad for killing Black Noir.

@emmanuel4989

Ай бұрын

@@Lance37a Black Noir mentored him, wasn't afraid of him, and the closest thing he had to a friend in the 7. Finding out Noir kept secret he had a father all these years must have hurt him a lot.

@HolyknightVader999

Ай бұрын

That's the point. He's giving the human side of himself some closure so he can leave it behind for good.

@ssh1487

Ай бұрын

He got pretty welled up when Soldier Boy lamented not having been able to raise him... Just before he called him a weak ass pussy

@hughmungus8340

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I'd say that him missing that final shot is an indicator he's emotional about it.

This was never about revenge. This was about Homelander trying to kill whatever humanity he has left in him, which means he thinks destroying his past will solve that. His traumas, emotions, he feels he can eradicate. Instead, at the end of the day, he only proved how human he really is.

@Weird_creepy_sans

Ай бұрын

You know I had to think about it but yea your right

@Know3ody

Ай бұрын

On the other hand...... he realised that humans don't have humanity themselves sp why treat them like they do 👍

@dongtrope

Ай бұрын

@@Know3odyNo, I’m pretty sure he sees most humans as humans, but because he thinks he’s a god he deems them lower and insignificant and refuses to share any of the qualities that makes humans well…human.

@georgemundy7056

Ай бұрын

I love how we all have different interpretations.

@Know3ody

Ай бұрын

@@dongtrope not in this scene.

I love how the scientists looking away and saying nothing to the awful things that homelander is doing perfectly mirrors how the same thing happened to him as a child, they all stood by and did nothing when this kid was being tortured, the whole, "we were just doing our job" is no excuse in this case

@Taospark

Ай бұрын

On the one hand, they were all just one person who couldn't have gotten him out or stopped things but on the other hand, they were paid and benefited every day from designing the perfect corporate superhero. Godwin's Law might seem too easy a comparison but with the "just doing my job" excuse and a literal oven, I think the show intended to evoke how we might feel towards Mengele or the demented people that weren't armed guards actually running the overhead of the death camps on a daily basis.

@AgentofChaos315

Ай бұрын

Granted in this case, their excuse is "he'll kill us too if we try to do anything"

@kasm7870

Ай бұрын

@@AgentofChaos315Barbara implies Vought would do the same.

@Warcodered01

Ай бұрын

Well a bunch of them do seem young enough to have likely not been there when this specifically happened, but still the ones that were still did the same thing.

@dodoarks3186

Ай бұрын

same excuse used during the nuremberg trials

2:15 that really got me Soldier Boy has it better because he was tortured and experimented as an adult but Homelander was experimented from his birth No wonder he is Mentally ill

@thefoeofdrip1184

Ай бұрын

Crazy how both the father and son were tortured in labs around the same period of time

@JohnWall-lj1mx

Ай бұрын

⁠@@thefoeofdrip1184it’s even sadder when you realise soldier boy always wanted a son and homelander craved a parental figure he couldn’t hurt whenever he wanted something as simple as a hug

@Invalid_Username404

Ай бұрын

Soldier Boy is also a sociopath

@acrazysheepdog1555

Ай бұрын

Their stories are so greatly paralleled. Soldier Boy wanted a son but before he could realize the truth he was abducted and experimented on. As Soldier Boy was already being cruelly tortured in Russia, Homelander was born and from the moment he was born he was an experiment. Homelander always wanted a father but his father was taken and he never knew the truth, just like his father, and both men were forever shaped by the trauma and horror of their experiences. I wish we got to see more of what they did to Soldier Boy in Russia, and maybe we could even see Soldier Boy hunt down some of the head scientists who experimented on him and make them suffer, but I doubt that will happen.

@AyKrax

Ай бұрын

​@@JohnWall-lj1mxye it sucks Solider Boy always wanted to be the father his father never was only to find out his son turned worse than him in his absence

Antony Starr as Homelander is the best thing about The Boys for me, amazing actor

@josiahgonzalez942

Ай бұрын

Surprised someone in this community actually spelled his name right for once

@coletrain583

Ай бұрын

Imagine what he would as Norman Osborn/Green Goblin.

@TheFunnyGuy9000

Ай бұрын

@@coletrain583or Reverse Flash

@river7874

Ай бұрын

If you like him in this, then you should check out Banshee. He's incredible as Lucas Hood.

@SicketMog

Ай бұрын

This season worth watching? I heard the showrunners is a POS, that it went woke, and that it's now effected by TDS seeping into the story (saw signs of that last season). Is it THAT bad? Downloaded the comics recently; better to drop the show and go with those?

That “Hey, Frank…” delivery was awesome. Dude knew he was toast

@mikerryan85

29 күн бұрын

Figuratively and literally…

@Mad_racc00n

22 күн бұрын

A burned toast, I should add.

You're sorry? Now? Why? Because now I'm a threat. -Syndrome

@lesROKnoobz

Ай бұрын

Beautiful line by syndrome too.

@co7769

17 күн бұрын

You know, it's amazing how there would be no homelander or syndrome if the adults around hadn't been the worst

@themoocow7718

13 күн бұрын

Fits perfectly. “15 years too late” - Syndrome

you know something bad is going to happen if some one in a prime original says "i forgive you"

@user-nf8id6di9b

Ай бұрын

💀

@Troyy22

Ай бұрын

When was the last time this happened?

@mont9150

Ай бұрын

i really thought marty gonna live because hes a good guy

@RonPaul42069

Ай бұрын

What other show did this happen in?

@user-nr5xp6yd8z

Ай бұрын

@@Troyy22 i think it was in that show about c

Imagine being in a room with a number of people, eating ice cream cake, then realizing you're not leaving the room alive, and there's nothing you can do to change that outcome.

@Jaiden_Anime_Shuns

29 күн бұрын

Florida schools when the quiet kid has had enough

@OfficialDKJ

27 күн бұрын

Anyone with balls, no pun intended, could have spoke up and confessed or maybe make an attempt. They all just stood frozen accepting their fate. Even after Frank died

@Marcelelias11

26 күн бұрын

​@@OfficialDKJIf they had said "balls", they wouldn't let John suffer like he did. They were either evil or cowards, every last one of them.

@gameace999_

17 күн бұрын

@@OfficialDKJThe guy who tried to speak up got his balls lasered off its obvious why they didn’t try to stop Homelander

Homelander is a great character. He is utterly vile and yet his origins and what was done to him make me sympathize and feel sorry for him on some level. To be clear it in NO way excuses his crimes as an adult but it does make him understandable on at least some level. Had he been raised in a decent family environment, I think there is a very real chance he could have been a good man. All that said, I think most if not all of us were Team Homelander in this one instance. "It is the nature of men to create monster and it is the nature of monsters to destroy their creators" -Harlan Wade, F.E.A.R.

@nelsondu2333

Ай бұрын

I mean, after this episode he's extremely understandable on any level. People who still think the kind of monster he is and the things he does are just Homelander being inherently evil after seeing this completely lack perspective.

@TeachMeHow2Douglas

Ай бұрын

The quote makes me think of the novel Frankenstein.

@ThatGUY666666

Ай бұрын

@@TeachMeHow2Douglas I can see why it would. Crazy enough, Harlan Wade makes even Victor Frankenstein look good by comparison.

@mappingshaman5280

Ай бұрын

Personally, even though it will require either his death, the end of the series or both, I can't wait for the vile eye to make a video analysing homelander

@Wen6543

28 күн бұрын

However Homelander hardly can be categorized as a monster since he is a complete looney, his brain never had the chance of a normal development after that massive torture he suffered for many years when he was growing. In any case he belongs to a mental institution.

"Use it or lose it marty " Homelander 🗿

@jayy24195

29 күн бұрын

your life is literally in your hands😭😂

@Rorywizz

26 күн бұрын

more spit marty

@Jerry-tg7zx

3 күн бұрын

Atta boy!

Homelanders "your turn" can be taken both ways after what he said lol

@treroney4720

17 күн бұрын

I never thought about that

Its crazy how well the actors played the scientists. You really can believe that it never even occured to them that what they did to Homelander was wrong. Look at Frank, even as he is escorted into an oven, there is no sense of panic or survival instinct. He is totally shocked and baffled by Homelander's revelation that years of torture and neglect might have had a bit of a negative impact on him actually. That "I'm sorry..." is so chilling. Its the kind of sorry you give to a friend when they admit that a joke you told that they laughed off at the time actually hurt their feelings. They arent moustache twirling villains. They are gaumless employees. For them those years of Homelander's childhood were just a couple years at the office. And when John comes back for revenge, they really can't believe it. Everyone in this sequence is really terrifying.

@markusjohnson6558

Ай бұрын

It's the kind of reaction you would expect from Nazi doctors, they are the type of people to put a child through horrific pain so they can't feel remorse or empathy in the same way a regular person would if at all Frank got off quite easy in terms of suffering, Homelander as a child was kept in there for hours and put through other equally painful experiments for years whereas he died within minutes

Rarely do characters make me tense even though i know exactly what they are gonna do, and Homelander takes the cake in that department

@terry.1428

Ай бұрын

Fudgie the Whale cake

@lunarskygacha9036

Ай бұрын

He took the cake, alright. Poor Fudgie...

Just dark in every sense of the word, Homelander really showing how much darker he's getting and feel slowly taking care of everything and everyone, genuinely something else on what they have built here with Antony Starr.

@raven4k998

10 күн бұрын

have your tears ever sizzled?

"See now you respect me because im a threat thats the way it works"- An alternate version of homelander to that alternate version of Frank

@llGyddyll-rm1ft

Ай бұрын

The incredibles.

@co7769

17 күн бұрын

Unfortunate that the world is like that

Wonder if this is why Homelander favors his heat vision: to make others feel his pain.

@Scrumcum

Ай бұрын

That would make sense actually

@Punggles

25 күн бұрын

I think he’s also just lazy

@Stitchpuppy01

16 күн бұрын

It’s the most convenient attack he has. Don’t dig too deep into it.

@SchizoCannibal

14 күн бұрын

​@@Stitchpuppy01 it's good to have discussions like this.

"I was just doing my job" is probably the worst thing he could have said in this circumstance - it was invalidating Homelander's trauma.

Can't believe it's 4 seasons already and still he didn't got an Emmy for his Legendary acting🔥🔥💯

@ao2415

Ай бұрын

That's for The Deep!

@abbasshachem3383

Ай бұрын

It's streaming show and owned by Jeff bezos so I don't think the Emmy will acknowledge the show

@josiahgonzalez942

Ай бұрын

Emmys and Oscars are rigged popularity contests. Bod odenkirk never got an emmy either

@BoBnfishy

Ай бұрын

They're like 4 episodes in to s4, he can't win an award for that yet

@munken7673

Ай бұрын

@@abbasshachem3383 game of Thrones has won Emmys

Homelander: if you win you can clock off early and see the family Also homelander: but I didn’t say what will happen if you lose…

@Green-sf4qw

Ай бұрын

And the fact that Homelander missed his last shot on purpose and said that he would've won makes it more cruel

@justanotherguy1782

Ай бұрын

Even if Frank did win, Homelander would still kill him. But in this case, he'll track Frank and his family down and kill them all.

@truffle6082

9 күн бұрын

I think 😂 Homelander would have let him go the point was he couldn’t survive the oven the same way homelander did as a child. 😂😂😂

“See? NOW you respect me, because I’m a threat.” - Syndrome

The psychological manipulation to make him unable to escape torture is the most scary part. No wonder he hates humanity yet doesn't want to be hated by them.

@crazycat482

Ай бұрын

Hating humanity, at least as I see it, is not justifiable in absolutely any way. Unless literally everybody tortures you, you can't hate all people. Its like if you wanted to enslave or kill all dogs just because one bit you when u were a child

@certifiedben6376

22 күн бұрын

Honestly if I was homelander I'd hate the world and since I have the power to destroy it why not?

Pre-heat time on that oven's fantastic.

@Akodakun

Ай бұрын

Could use me one of those

@Kayoss13212

Ай бұрын

Idk about the comics, but I can’t help but wonder if the writers might’ve actually hinted at Homelanders weakness with that comment about the fire?

@naufalmEZa

Ай бұрын

​@@Kayoss13212not really, it just implies that even though his body is near indestructible, his nervous system's still quite... Normal, if anything, his supersenses might amplify the pain receptors.

@seanjackson4228

29 күн бұрын

The "Oven" was at least 1400 degrees fahrenheit; that is why Frank's body incinerated that fast.....

@oldcat1790

27 күн бұрын

The matter itself has its limits when it comes to resisting heat, at some point any material just melts and vaporises - ofc if we talk about real physics, not DC.

Dude is so sorry that he kept working for the same company that had him do it in the 1st place

@raven4k998

10 күн бұрын

not anymore because he's dead JIM🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@truffle6082

9 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

"he wasn't born a monster; he was made into one through years of systematic abuse" - Dr Hannibal Lecter.

@S.D.323

21 күн бұрын

funny enough that describes Hannibal himself in a way

@user-cm7rl4fl3z

20 күн бұрын

@@S.D.323 Quite so.

3:12 The acting here is just incredible. The microexpressions and tone of voice are perfect

@madln5070

Ай бұрын

bro legits moves his eyebrows like 1mm, its crazy

@kyloluma

Ай бұрын

@@madln5070 yhhh. Also that little twitch after the "why?" Is actually perfect

@josiahgonzalez942

Ай бұрын

​​@@kylolumahes really good at facial expression acting lol. even though thats not a thing you know what i mean... 😅

@madln5070

Ай бұрын

@@kyloluma yeah, he looks incredibly sad but also really angry for a second.

@spencerreid2086

14 күн бұрын

its Heart-breaking tbh the way Antony delivers the lines makes him seem like he's kinda Reverted back to being a Hurt child for a couple of seconds before Regaining his composure and shutting the Door.

im pretty sure most people would think homelander is kinda of justified here , these people tortured a kid every day

@jesusramirezromo2037

Ай бұрын

Only the 3 older people, The other scientists where all new guys

@arizmation2558

Ай бұрын

​@@jesusramirezromo2037they still put compound V into babies

@RuthsDev71

Ай бұрын

​@@jesusramirezromo2037the new ones ,tortured other supe kids in this lab.

@Member_Of_the_Golden_Dawn

Ай бұрын

​@@jesusramirezromo2037so what? Normal people wouldn't work there.

@whereDoCarrotsComeFrom

Ай бұрын

​@@Member_Of_the_Golden_DawnBecca worked on the tower 🙂🥖🇨🇵

I almost feel like if Frank had better apologized right there, Homelander might have stopped? I don’t know if that was the intention, but the way he stopped when Frank said ‘I was just doing my job’ made me think that somewhere, deep down, Homelander’s desire for affection might have overcome his anger. He also seems a bit more choked up after that line too, like he’s struggling to process how little it _actually_ mattered to Frank. EDIT: none of you 'He killed the other guy for a nickname!!!!!' people are worth replying to. Homelander is definitely known for making perfectly logical decisions, they're never based on his volatile emotions and insecurities. I was commenting on my interpretation of the acting, not the actual intention of the scene.

@ericluo28

Ай бұрын

no, he then goes to murder the other old guy in the scene for giving him an embarrassing nickname even though HL acknowledged that dude was mostly nice to him

@AyKrax

Ай бұрын

​@@ericluo28imagine him walking into room "have fun in their squirt" and the room erupts in laughter before he's thrown in another torture chamber. Everyday 24/7💀

@markusjohnson6558

Ай бұрын

​@@ericluo28That man was just as evil as the rest of them

@carljohnson621

Ай бұрын

You'd think that after lasering Marty's privates just because he laughed at him ONCE he wouldn't show any mercy towards the guy that actively tried to cook him alive, no matter how much he begged or cried.

@ericluo28

Ай бұрын

@@markusjohnson6558 th point is the guy who set hl on fire is not getting out just cus he had a better apology lmfao

The crazy thing is he was powerful enough to just break out of that place and leave any time he wanted to.

@AlkiosAvainash

Ай бұрын

I doubt it mind you it was Homelander when he was young but I bet when he was old enough he could which is why they began to put his hands into a furnace instead of having him break out. And I bet even if he did, he would be severely punished

@ericluo28

Ай бұрын

@@AlkiosAvainash the director of this place literally says he could've broken out whenever

@carljohnson621

Ай бұрын

Barbara said it so herself but his mind was quite literally engineered to crave love and approval so desperately that he would feel he is letting them down and disappointing them if he did.

@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012

Ай бұрын

​@@carljohnson621 Which is even worse, they literally brainwashed him into not leaving the facility

@user-dv1rh9ij1e

Ай бұрын

​@@AlkiosAvainash yeah i dont think that furnace could keep him inside

3:19 That "Why?" sounds so heartbreaking. It sounds like Homelander is about to burst into tears.

Watching the eyes pop in the reflection is absolutely brutal

Homelander may be a victim, but that doesn't mean he's not a villan.

@jorgeblast9756

Ай бұрын

we know that, but this incident lab is justified.

@claremontcowboy7409

13 күн бұрын

@@jorgeblast9756 TIL: two wrongs make a right. lol.

I really love the demented look Homelander gives every time someone from his childhood tries to apologize to him, going back to Vogelbaum in season 1. They threw a child into an oven. They're only sorry Homelander remembered it.

@S.D.323

21 күн бұрын

I think Vogelbaum really was sorry these guys though not so much

3:39 bro his face here. he couldn’t even keep up his staged bravado any longer. literally twitching and shaking with hateful rage

@raven4k998

10 күн бұрын

well he's not quite there yet but give him times he's learning and growing as a monster trust me these things take time to develop your not a monstrous villain actor over night it takes years of hard work to develop those acting skills to be a master villain so give him time and you will see him grow into an amazing actor of villains

@spand9043

8 күн бұрын

​@@raven4k998 what are you talking about? We are praising his acting here. Homelander in the show was keeping a friendly bravado to the scientists despite his violent intentions, but after getting his revenge that mask slipped for a second. Incredible portrayal by Anthony starr

After all, it is monsters that create monsters.

@brzhnx

Ай бұрын

That actually doesn't justify the last ones anyway. Violence is always violence no matter what cause it's been provoked by.

@AlkiosAvainash

Ай бұрын

​@@brzhnx But violence breeds violence

@brzhnx

Ай бұрын

@@AlkiosAvainash not always. It takes person's will to comprehend what they feel and some knowledge to learn how express themselves in a healthy way without violence and abusing.

@Miguelcervantesfan

Ай бұрын

​@@AlkiosAvainash slippery little bastard!

@AlkiosAvainash

Ай бұрын

@brzhnx But when defending yourself or someone else, violence is needed. And sometimes vengeance is justice, not always it can go too far, but Vengeance, when looking back, was the earliest form of justice. Many people and some countries still hold thay value. What obscures the line between "justice" and "Vengeance". Is justice done by a court of law and Vengeance isn't? Or is justice rightful retribution?

“Hey frank…😗” I knew frank was fucked after that

@melkroll6962

10 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 that and they “hey Marty, come here for a sec”

@Rachel-Pham

5 күн бұрын

AYA!!!!!!!!!!

The writers were cooking with this one 🔥🔥

@thespiritofjonathanjoestar6805

Ай бұрын

So did Frank

@Allahuakbar420

Ай бұрын

@@thespiritofjonathanjoestar6805☠️

@Mad_racc00n

22 күн бұрын

They have burned the toasts.

@notveryintelligent6239

15 күн бұрын

You know who else…

I love the interaction at 3:08, Homelander is almost baffled at this vain attempt at redemption - he's not sorry, he hasn't been sorry for 30 years hes lived a normal happy life blissfully ignorant of the pain hes caused a child. Only now when he is confronted and put on deaths door step does he plead to say hes sorry and only to save himself from the repercussions of his actions

@TheWorldsOkayestUSMarine

19 күн бұрын

He's not "baffled", it's sarcasm. Deus Ex is awesome, btw.

Homelander appears in the elevator. Scientists: *Chuckles We're in danger.

As Frank was burning in the oven the music playing is the violin theme

I'd like to think that if Soldier Boy was there, he wouldn't have let Homelander be so cruelly experimented on.

@WilliamButcher26566

24 күн бұрын

Imagine if while Homelander was still a child and in that oven, Soldier Boy breaks into the lab. Having learnt Homelander is his son...

@kainholden2001

18 күн бұрын

Makes me wonder how john/homelander would've turned out if soldier boy was present in his life. I imagine he'd probably still be a piece of trash, but maybe he wouldn't be as psychotic as he is now.

“Homelander you don’t have to-“ no he 100% Does

@Kyuubi_AFK

Ай бұрын

The fact that he kept calling him John

I like how the flash backs come in like you would legitimately remember something in your head.

Homelander stepping off the elevator with the cake as the room goes silence gives me the same chills as watching "No Country for Old Men". It's like any minute you feel like someone was going to die a horrible poetic death.

Take a second and appreciate you don’t live in a world like “The Boys” entirely 😮‍💨

@readthiscomment6748

Ай бұрын

The only real difference is vought and supes dont exist. Other stuff is only slightly exaggerated.

@thebrognator3524

Ай бұрын

Shit like this is happening in this very instant. Except the poor subjects die since they are not supes

@ErikMationsReborn

Ай бұрын

@@readthiscomment6748 That’s real..

@AyKrax

Ай бұрын

The only difference is Vought isn't called Vought and the superpowers are nuclear weapons & guns.

@TheMissingDislikeButton

Ай бұрын

The supes are the politicians irl tho

Homelander's shaky voice when he heard Franks sorry. he waited a genuine apology from someone probably for years and never came

Gotta give the creator props for making a character you really want to die in the end.

Antony Starr = genius

@Mikey_The-Pikey

Ай бұрын

🐐

@kauamachado5373

Ай бұрын

🐐

Frank had it coming with that attitude😂

This episode was one of the most brutal episodes. It was the first episode Homelander showed his physcopath face.

Phenomenal episode. Best episode of a television show I’ve seen in YEARS

I loved the timing, how much tension it added for the viewers who didn't know what happened. "You were sitting there " hmm okay "And, well, I was in the oven here" Oh, that guy's gonna die.

What makes Homelander so terrifying is how his sadism knows no bounds, being insincerely cheerful and chummy to people not just to get them to drop their guard but to also toy with their emotions and relish making them realize something terrible is about to happen to them Antony definitely deserves some awards for this scene alone, he would be perfect to play Erwin or Zeke in a live action Attack on Titan movie or series

It really does feel like Homelander is the protagonist of this season. He’s in it the most and even goes on a character journey.

@__diosito__

27 күн бұрын

Always was

@spand9043

8 күн бұрын

Nah just a very well written antagonist with lots of justification.

I never thought Antony Starr could surpass his own charisma and cruelty as Homelander. But he comes up with a new masterpiece every time. In this episode, he went off the rails!!! If he doesn't deserve an Emmy, idk who would. He's a SENSATION!

Not for nothing “I was just doing my job” was the same excuse that the nazi soldiers used Homelander was actually right to get his revenge IMO

@samir6047

Ай бұрын

Yup . This was pretty dope, loved it

@claremontcowboy7409

13 күн бұрын

If you think Homelander was right then you're exactly the sort of person the series makes fun of. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Damn. His tears. In a twisted way, they made him do this with how much they made him crave love and validation.

The second kill was even more brutal

@arthurjunior7241

Ай бұрын

A real dick move

@JadenAlexis

Ай бұрын

Was it?! :l

@xtravugant4245

Ай бұрын

YOU GOT DICK BLOOD ON MY BOOTS MARTY MAWHAHAHAHHAHAHA

@eriken8714

Ай бұрын

Not in a million years

@RobertEdwinHouse9

Ай бұрын

Marty got off easy compared to frank

How to deal with childhood trauma Google: Seek help, consider therapy Bing:

@Dhomden

Ай бұрын

Rare Bing W

@S.D.323

21 күн бұрын

Based

@faisalkamal4319

2 күн бұрын

Google just swallow it Bing is where's your rage

3:40 the subtle violin theme probably signals the next stage of his character development, no more dependency on others

Love the subtle violin playing in the background as Frank is being burned alive

I absolutely love the little terrifying flashes of homelander(john)s past. It shows that just like us, he to struggles very deeply to cope with that kinda stuff cuz you simply wouldn't be able to. I like to think that by the time john turned 16 (when they showed homelanders growth heights for his ages) he was already crazy, and homelander developed as an alternate personality for him. We kinda see this through homelanders mirror scenes. His more humane emotions and feelings are getting pushed further away, while homelander, "the only man in the sky" remains

Im proud of homelander, forgiving people is a hard but it's about doing it for your own mental health, good to see homelanders finally taking care of his mental well being

As messed up as Homelander is, he is simply the product of his horrific life's experiences. Who knows - he might have turned out to be a really good guy, maybe even a true "Superman" given the right up-bringing. Probably should have been raised on a farm in Kansas.

@adesolajohnson4511

Ай бұрын

I agree. Even the worst humans are still human and villains aren’t really born but made

In this one instance, Homelander is the hero.

The messed up part is, this lab is his childhood home and all the tests are his childhood memories. And this is about as close to a homecoming as he can get - the things he gets to do when he visits his childhood home is to force everyone to eat cakes (which is clearly uncomfortable) then get back on these people by letting them to experience his childhood trauma.

Antony Starr is an incredible actor. The amount of emotions he manages to convey while sticking true to the facade is breathtaking.

3:40 Homelander was like holding the grudge for decades, and now he feels relieved.

I like the fact that, even though his skin didn’t physically burn, he still felt pain so home lander can feel pain. It just won’t physically appear on his body and no sciences tortured him for years, so what they got, they deserve.

Its not homelander fault what he is, is all doctors in that labs fault

@gramioerie_xi133

Ай бұрын

it can be both

Bro took forgiveness to new level ❤️😂

Those quick flashbacks showing him screaming (silently) in pain worked so well.

Very satisfying what homelander was doing in this episode

Even frank's "Sorry" doesn't sound remorseful, almost sounds like an act.

2:06 This is one of the most important lines in the entire series. Anyone who's grown up either severely bullied or in an abusive home can completely identify with this. Someone's cruelty can shape who you are as a person, but the perpetrator never pays any mind to what they're doing.

I like how when Homelander says it's all a matter of perspective the perspective change is shown by showing change in camera angles thus also changing the viewers' " perspective"

“Hey guys sorry I’m late traffic was hel-…..oh shit” -that one scientist who was late

I knew immediately after “Hey Frank” 😏

Antony Starr is so good at all the little ticks and facial features that show homelander losing it and how psychotic hes becoming

Homelander is a horrible monster, but John was just a little boy, he didn't deserved to be turned into this. Still, Homelander deserves the worst that can happen to him now

Fun fact, this wasnt in the script, Anthony starr just forced him in the oven and no one wanted to challenge him

" funny isn't it how people can have a different memory of seeing the exact same thing" or matter of perspective I'd guess.That burns deep those words

@BloodyBricks

8 күн бұрын

I see what you did there

@SoulFaeWorld

7 күн бұрын

@@BloodyBricks thanks guess everyone else was frazzled

Can't get that hot, what with the florescent lamp hanging from the ceiling lol nice set design, Erik

3:18 - 3:24 so much stuff going on in homelanders facial expressions.

How nice of him to at least forgive him...

"Get in the oven fank" and "Kentucky fried massacre" are two of my favorite lines ever 🤣🤣🤣 A+ writers!!

Give him an award man that he deserves for a long time.

The one worked on the nightshift or dint come to work that day, should buy a lottery ticket.

I wish this ep shows more footage of the last massacre in the bad room

@konradha

Ай бұрын

That's why The Boys is such a good show, just hinting at the absolute horror in that last shot. It tells you everything you need to know but leaves room for your imagination to fill in the details. That's some top tier filmmaking.

@Sh1ryyu

4 күн бұрын

I just realized he threw marty's headless corpse into the room too

I can't get over how good the acting is in this show. It feels so real and makes you actually feel bad for the characters like Homelander but doesn't necessarily make you forget all the bad things they've done and still hold them accountable. They need to win some awards for portraying these stories and roles so well ASAP! 🗣️

This scene was beautifully crafted. The dialog, the setting, how the way it feels so natural and organic… this is some Tarantino sh*t! And Anthony Starr is an amazing actor. His mimics when Frank said “I was just doing my job”… Beautiful!

Frank got what he deserved. Not a single person at Vought showed Homelander any humanity. Frank's, "I was doing my job" excuse is no different than what the Nazis said while they were being interrogated at Nuremberg. On a side note, Antony Starr is the only reason to watch this show. His range and talent make Homelander the most likable homicidal maniac since Hannibal Lecter and the Joker.

@thequestion2859

28 күн бұрын

I think Frank knew that when he said it. It's human nature to deflect when you're avoiding confronting the fact that you've done wrong. He probably sold himself that same lie every day knowing damn well it wasn't true just to get himself to the next paycheck for him and his family. That's why he backpedals when he realizes Homelander is really going to end his life by burning him alive the same way. He knows and has always known that he deserved this and he thought for years he was just gonna get away with it and be absolved. That he could just keep telling himself that lie and it would be fine he'd never have to confront it. He eventually didn't even have to carry the burden of the memory. He just moved on and kept throwing paper into a wastebasket day in and day out. Just another Tuesday. That's why it's so satisfying what Homelanders last line to him is "You're sorry? But why? You were just doing your job right?" he throws his own flimsy excuse back at him before roasting him alive. And compared to John, he got off easy only feeling it for maybe almost a minute. But he did feel it, he briefly for those 45 seconds or so understood finally after all these years. That moment he'd forgotten about because he was so conditioned to not even be thinking of the kid as anything more than an experiment and was more interested in throwing paper balls into trash cans before casually flipping a switch to ignite an invincible child who would be trapped in there for long periods of time, than giving that decision any more thought to as whether or not that was wrong. Homelander made him confront his greatest fear, before granting him the mercy of death. And uh... "Forgiving" him