If this character had used the word "Black" rather than "blind," it would never have made it into the script. It's amazing that it's still so acceptable to denigrate disabled people in the media, there's still such a persistent ableist assumption that disability renders people less worthy. Thanks for raising this important issue, Lance.

@seethroughpod

11 күн бұрын

Exactly! I think writers are like… well we can still talk about disabilities without getting cancelled for it, so they just go that route.

@professorlewis9853

11 күн бұрын

@@seethroughpod Their sense of entitlement is offensive. There's a strong element of dehumanization and objectification that goes hand in hand with this tendency to disparage people with physical differences that are still viewed by so many as signs of unfitness or defectiveness. It's infuriating. This is a key theme in the novel I'm writing, I'm determined to find a publisher, as the need for these messages is crystal clear based on shows like the one you report on here!

@Giovanni-dy7tf

10 күн бұрын

@@professorlewis98531.you clearly have never watched imperium where Daniel Radcliffe *says the n word* so yes to answer ur question if it was replaced with black it would be fine

@galarstar052

8 күн бұрын

Uh... you realise that in the show there's also an actual literal nazi villain who regularly drops slurs, right? It absolutely made it into the script.

@seethroughpod

8 күн бұрын

​@@galarstar052 To your point, that character is a literal Nazi. Everyone already knows that Nazi = bad. In my opinion, Homelander's comment about blind people being useless is more nuanced and has more layers to it. For example, if there were a slur for blind people and when he crushed Blindspot's ears, he called Blindspot that slur and walked away, I honestly wouldn't care at all. For me. it's the pairing of the words "another" and "useless" that insinuates that blind people are useless to society, which is a low blow that's untrue and could have been avoided. For example, Homelander could have said, "now you're just a normal f*cking blind guy." or sarcastically say "now you're the first deaf/blind superhero." - both keep the messaging and violence of the scene the same. Most scenes that target marginalized groups have teachable lessons in them and highlight ways society could do better, but this scene didn't teach anything but show how cruel Homelander is, which could have been demonstrated without throwing out low blows to blind people who are just trying to enjoy an entertaining show.

Awesome video Lance! I love this new style of content and I’m looking forward to more stuff. As someone who’s also disabled, and that lives with a physical disability daily, I think this scene and line was actually pretty funny. And here’s a few of the reasons why I don’t mind it: 1. The Boys pokes fun at all political parties (some more than others) and everyone. They made fun of BLM, they made fun of Trump, they made fun of LGBTQ and Pride Month, and the list just goes on. So it’s not really singling out one group or person and that I appreciate. 2. We gotta learn to laugh at our disabilities! I said this in my episode, and I think this episode is a perfect example of that. I joke all the time that it would suck being in trouble and the superhero that comes to your rescue has a visible disability rather than someone like Superman or Spider-Man. It’s just a funny scenario to think about, and I think that’s all we should take it for. A funny and messed up scenario. If we can’t laugh at ourselves and our disabilities, how can we be comfortable in our own skin? 3. If you watch the show you know how Homelander views himself. He thinks of himself as basically a god. And everyone below him is practically worthless. So of course he views a blind guy as “useless” because comparing them side by side, Homelander is obviously stronger. I understand people will have problems with this but like you said it’s only a TV show and it’s not like it’s targeting only the disabled community. It’s a show that wants to poke fun at everyone. And that’s something we need nowadays. But who knows. Maybe I’m just a terrible person 😂

@seethroughpod

11 күн бұрын

Thanks Jamey! I’m stoked you’re vibing with the new series. Your response is the exact reason I started these minisodes. I want to showcase different perspectives and start conversations. I think ego has a lot to do with how we process clips like this one. Your take is super interesting as you’re a fan of the show and have more insight on the characters than I do. I’m with you on being able to make fun of yourself, but I do think there is a statistical line that you can’t cross. I think where that line is or even if it should exist is what causes the controversy. As one of my favorite comedians Andrew Schulz says, “everyone gets these jokes” - so I’m with you there Personally, the use of the word “useless” and the violence/cruelness of the scene was what turned me off. Ultimately, I didn’t see the humor in this scene and just found it disturbing. I also doubt the show gives equal weight to criticism coming from disabled people as they do criticism from other communities. They wouldn’t create a scene where Homelander assaults a person from the LGBTQ community for no reason and then makes a homophobic remark while they’re down. Also - if they did… it would likely be to teach a lesson about how homophobia still exists and is problematic, etc. Where in this scene, they’re just presenting ableism with no moral reasoning behind it.

nice hat - rocking the 5 panel. love your content as always brother.

Excuse the mess if there’s any 😂😂😂😂😂 I’m blind and diagnosed ADHD idk why that one took me out 😂

Disability jokes are always crap

Had to add - FROM SOMEONE WHOS FOUND HER WINGS WITH HER DISABILITY, I WILL BE A FN SNOWFLAKE ALL DAY. I will say this shit because younger me deserved bettter from those around me, from media, from myself. Anyone who says otherwise Imo is why i fully am loving myself - but took to 30 to get here. The blindness isn’t the hard part. The agony is in the ability to stop caring and own your capabilities and your disability. Once you stop being a victim you become okay with the daily life part. . I would stay blind forever if i don’t have to ever overcome that decade of agony that got me to self security ever again

@Moxxiemorgan

18 сағат бұрын

adult bullies who must be so lucky to have never hurt enough to have empathy for others internal agony,

It is obvious homelander is a horrible person so assuming the creators agree with what he says is crazy it just shows how bad of a person he is

@seethroughpod

10 күн бұрын

I never said the creators agreed with him. In the video, I mentioned how I knew their motive was to show Homelander in a bad light. I just think by using a blind guy as a literal punching bag for the scene was avoidable, distasteful, and perpetuates harmful stereotypes of blind people (specifically - the use of the word "useless").

@taters9722

9 күн бұрын

​@seethroughpod yeah except the blinde supe wasn't usless. He was doing all those crazy tricks that were shown to us. Is ur issue just homelander calling him useless? If they ommited it would that make the scene "respectable?" to you? You're wrong about people's perception on blind people tho. Ironically yall are invisible lol. Noone watching that scene was thinking about how blind people are perceived. Everyone was just going "omg, what a fucking asshole homelander is". Go look up the clip and search up the comments. Nobody says anything about blind people being useless at all. What a reach. I think its more so bc ur deteriorating vision makes u super sensitive to the topic now more than anything. Also what's you're alternate scene? You said it could be done a million ways, how would u have done it?

@seethroughpod

8 күн бұрын

@@taters9722 To answer your question - "Is ur issue just homelander calling him useless? If they ommited it would that make the scene "respectable?" to you?". Honestly, that is my major beef with the scene... I know that sounds wild since the scene has a violent assault in it, but if Homelander replaced the word "useless" with "normal" or he sarcastically said, "well now you're a deaf blind superhero" than I'd be cool with it. For me, it's the pairing of the words "another" and "useless" that made it cross the line. Violence is an obvious display of cruelness and wrong doing, but the messaging of his lines unintentionally perpetuate negative viewpoints of the blindness community. Most scenes that target marginalized groups have teachable lessons in them and highlight ways society could do better, but this scene didn't teach anything but show how cruel Homelander is, which could have been demonstrated without throwing out low blows to blind people who are just trying to enjoy an entertaining show.

@taters9722

8 күн бұрын

@seethroughpod idk man that sounds ass backwards. Anyways that scene didn't make ppl feel blind ppl are useless it made them sympathize with the blind guy. Go look up that clip and read the comments. I did a bit ago and they're surprisingly wholesome. You just chose a really poor target for your discussion point imo.

@seethroughpod

8 күн бұрын

@@taters9722 I definitely don't speak for everyone. I appreciate you sharing your take on things. 🤜🤛

I don't think it's really fair to say this line shouldn't have been in the show because it's too offensive. I mean, as you said Homelander is supposed to be the villain, as a scene it establishes both how cruel and remorseless he is while also establishing how he views the world in a strict hierarchy. He's already a supe-supremacist who views them as superior to regular people, him similarly looking down on people with disabilities only makes sense, him being a bigot is a major part of his character I don't think the writers should have to avoid putting scenes like this in the show just because the audience might misinterpret them

@seethroughpod

8 күн бұрын

I definitely believe in freedom of speech, so I'd never tell anyone what they can or can't say or write. If the writers want to add this scene in, they 100% can. But like with anything else, they're going to have to hear from people who disagree with their choices. I think that debates/discussions like this allow for people to rethink and reconsider their own viewpoints, which in return makes writers consider things differently when they're writing their next script.

@galarstar052

8 күн бұрын

@@seethroughpod Oh no, I didn't mean to insinuate you were trying to censor them or anything, sorry if it came across that way. I just don't agree with the conclusion that there's inherently anything wrong with this scene as it is.

Does nobody here realize that this being awful is the entire point? Homelander is a cartoonishly horrible villain who nobody will want to emulate, and this highlights that the attitude that blind people are useless is a horrible and clearly wrong belief. Y'all are ridiculous, looking for something to be offended by, even when it's something that's clearly on your side. It's called "satire"; look it up

As someone who is legally blind, this clip is super problematic. Thanks for covering it and I will skip watching 'The Boys'.

@seethroughpod

11 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!

If you’ve ever watched Imperium u know that Daniel Radcliffe calls a black guy the hard R are the creators of it racist?

I found it funny I like the show. Am I being ignorant or are you being too sensitive? Genuine question 😊

@seethroughpod

6 күн бұрын

Could be a healthy mix of both. Depends on why you find it humorous.

@mrchen.4543

6 күн бұрын

@@seethroughpod do you believe you (or any other entity) decides what’s allowed to be funny? Maybe bad phrasing answer how you’d like

It’s not woke nor you being sensitive it’s ignorance we need to call out We get enough animosity enough as it is.

I remember watching this scene and it did sit wrong with me a little bit. Of course Homelander is a terrible person, but that's the only blindness representation in the show. So it's used as a one-off gag more than anything. This would be fine if there was other representations of blind people, not just in The Boys, but in shows in general. Most of the time, we only get to see useless blind people that are used for pity or to make another character look virtuous for helping them. Or we get blind superheroes/ or the blind swordsman trope where they somehow overcome their blindness or visual impairment, so functionally they aren't really blind. I wish there was more in-between representations that just showed blind people being people, living their lives, and being competent without being superhuman.

@seethroughpod

7 күн бұрын

Bro, you nailed it! I couldn't of said it better. Also, I just subbed to your channel. It's nice to meet you 🤝

@JoshBoykinCyreal

7 күн бұрын

@@seethroughpod Yeah, man! I've been watching your videos for a few months now. I like all of your content, and it's nice to see other visually impaired and blind people thriving in this world, speaking out about our experiences.

infuriating!! - That's for reminding me how I need to continue to work to breakdown the stigma Lance ❤‍🩹

@seethroughpod

9 күн бұрын

Thanks Jill! 🧡