Home Server Upgrade - More drives, more problems?

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0:00 Intro
1:05 the new setup
10:04 Let's actually put it together
11:16 How did it turn out?

Пікірлер: 144

  • @RaidOwl
    @RaidOwl3 ай бұрын

    Guys my 1U servers are at the proper angle according to the builders code here in Texas. It is to prevent snow, ammunition, and Whataburger build up on the top which could cause the servers to collapse. I truly expected better out of you guys...smh

  • @TMoneyJones

    @TMoneyJones

    3 ай бұрын

    Can’t believe these noobs don’t know about the ammunition build up here in Texas. Fantastic code compliance sir.

  • @gavinskurrie

    @gavinskurrie

    3 ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @chimpo131

    @chimpo131

    3 ай бұрын

    you're definitely one of the worst tech bros on KZread😂😂😂

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    @@chimpo131 thanks!

  • @greenprotag
    @greenprotag3 ай бұрын

    Dual PSUs are not only for separate circuits. Dual PSUs can run in redundant mode OR in load balanced mode. I would advise keeping both of them in. I am especially fond of load balanced mode because it will distribute the draw between the 2 PSUs and you can have some nice efficiency AND enjoy LOWER load on a single power port of your PDU or Standard power strip/bar. Plus, if a single PSU fails in a long-term deployment, you will have fail over to the other working PSU so that you will have zero downtime. This paired with a nice battery back up and you will have an EXCELLENT power set up.

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    Interesting…I’ll have to revisit this then!

  • @greenprotag

    @greenprotag

    3 ай бұрын

    @@RaidOwl Also... this is like a $1,500 chassis right?

  • @elminster8149

    @elminster8149

    3 ай бұрын

    @@greenprotag Yup, £1700 in the UK, ouch.

  • @bluesquadron593

    @bluesquadron593

    3 ай бұрын

    This

  • @Darkk6969

    @Darkk6969

    3 ай бұрын

    Yep. I use dual PSU whenever possible. My fiber MikroTik switch has it and been using it despite my house only have one power circuit. It still provides redundant power to the switch if one PSU should fail.

  • @juniornunes
    @juniornunes3 ай бұрын

    those 3 tilted 1U servers hurt my OCD soul haha

  • @drkavnger99

    @drkavnger99

    3 ай бұрын

    You aren't joking but par for the course with those devices. Your choices are to let them dangle, put a shelf under them, put another server under them with 4 post rails.

  • @juniornunes

    @juniornunes

    3 ай бұрын

    @@drkavnger99 ya my sophos(pfsense) gateway was the same way i ended up putting a server under it. i think its cause ive seen some rack ears just sheer off

  • @bountynz

    @bountynz

    3 ай бұрын

    makes me as an INF Engineer cringe but i understand at the same time

  • @JavierChaparroM

    @JavierChaparroM

    3 ай бұрын

    Same here hahaha

  • @BrunodeSouzaLino
    @BrunodeSouzaLino3 ай бұрын

    The Oculink vs SAS explanation helps clarify one detail people often miss, which is Oculink is not a protocol. Oculink is just a PCIe lane/s in cable form.

  • @BrianJurkowski
    @BrianJurkowski3 ай бұрын

    9:35 OOOOooooo...... AHH!!!! :)

  • @kyootfox
    @kyootfox3 ай бұрын

    For the Redundant Power, may consider one to the house circuit, the other to a UPS with a 'Auto-shutdown' script at power loss, since you are not HA at home.

  • @questionablecommands9423
    @questionablecommands94233 ай бұрын

    A word of caution about backplanes that support both SaS and SATA: _apparently_, SaS drives use a lower voltage than SATA drives and the power is negotiated with the drive spins up. This means that if you mix-and-match SaS with SATA on the same HBA, you might end up dumping too much power into the SaS drives. In this instance, the expander throws a lot of unanswered questions into the mix. I learned this from just a passing comment on a podcast where the speaker wasn't particularly technical so I wouldn't count on the above being entirely correct, but I had 16 SaS drives fail at the same time for what seemed like mysterious reasons, but the 4 that were on their own HBA were fine. So my experience aligns.

  • @chromerims

    @chromerims

    3 ай бұрын

    SAS drives lower voltage than Sata. Good point

  • @elmestguzman3038
    @elmestguzman30383 ай бұрын

    It is in fact a beautiful server. But please some rails for the cluster!!!!

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    If you tilt your head they’re straight

  • @elmestguzman3038

    @elmestguzman3038

    3 ай бұрын

    @@RaidOwl i never go straight is against my religion 🌈lol!!!!

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    @@elmestguzman3038 yas queen

  • @robertj1138
    @robertj11382 ай бұрын

    nice setup. i am working on starting the same kind of setup.

  • @CPPRODUCTIONS1001
    @CPPRODUCTIONS10013 ай бұрын

    Redundants aren't just for separate circuits. PSUs fail, especially for servers. Having spare isnt the worst thing in the world

  • @JavierChaparroM

    @JavierChaparroM

    3 ай бұрын

    Right, I have one SPU on the Grid power supply and the other one on my UPS

  • @Djw8991
    @Djw89913 ай бұрын

    glad to see someone use some inwin hardware, I've been using their mini itx case for a while and have been really happy with it. Looking to upgrade to one of their pedestal cases since I don't have space for a rack

  • @guy_autordie
    @guy_autordie3 ай бұрын

    ouh woah! truly amazing! (9:35)

  • @Gastell0
    @Gastell03 ай бұрын

    8:23 - I would still try and look at what kind of connection they have, and also simply try if it works with minisas, it pretty much looks like a standard dual path sas setup for two slots that would have 4 electrical sas connections, which is exactly what single minisas provides - i.e. it shoudl work with sata just fine while directly connected with minisasa cable

  • @drkavnger99
    @drkavnger993 ай бұрын

    Not a bad use of $1600 for just the chassis.... Sad to hear you weren't able to take advantage of some of the more fun stuff on it though. Maybe time for a motherboard upgrade? :D

  • @hashdankhog8578
    @hashdankhog85783 ай бұрын

    How did you get a hold of this chassis? I am looking for a 2u version and the website doesnt give a price.

  • @xellaz
    @xellaz3 ай бұрын

    I thought of something like this before but then I thought of the noise and power consumption... plus I don't really need it... then I lost interest. 😅 That still looks cool though! 👍

  • @hashdankhog8578
    @hashdankhog85783 ай бұрын

    how did you get a hold of this chassis, the website doesnt even let you get a quote.

  • @JonnieZuramski
    @JonnieZuramski3 ай бұрын

    Can't find this chassis anywhere, where'd you pick it up?

  • @hagak1679
    @hagak16793 ай бұрын

    Why did you install the drives BEFORE racking the server? 4U chassis is heavy and awkward enough without all those front loaded drives!

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    Cuz I’m a big strong boy

  • @acubley

    @acubley

    3 ай бұрын

    @@RaidOwl Cuz you were sick and not thinkin'?

  • @MarloMitchell
    @MarloMitchell3 ай бұрын

    living the dream man. good job.

  • @JonathanTalksHW
    @JonathanTalksHW3 ай бұрын

    Great video Brett!

  • @jerwal83
    @jerwal833 ай бұрын

    Do you have a ups? You could connect one psu to the ups for safe shutdown in a power outage. To be honest I know power outages are rare now a days

  • @NightHawkATL
    @NightHawkATL3 ай бұрын

    That is a nice case but I would rather not have the expander. I am sure there are advantages but I guess the OCD in me just wants 1:1 lol. I am happy with my new 12 bay NAS but will look into this case for future plans.

  • @nadtz
    @nadtz3 ай бұрын

    Nice chassis, looks like it's time to upgrade to Siena for that system so you can use all that occulink goodness without using gobs more power. Seems a shame not to mirror a couple U.2's for the VM's, probably the only change I'd make. And I'm with you 9on running core (at least for now), if it ain't broke...

  • @michaelloving8004
    @michaelloving80043 ай бұрын

    I run proxmox on that hp server planning either to add and/or upgrade to HP dl380 gen9 with flexlom 40gbe dual qsfp+ and Nvidia tesla k40

  • @Monarchias
    @Monarchias3 ай бұрын

    Hi Brett! I broke out from being an Asrock mobo. Now I am a thinking individual. And I'm thinking about what if you ask Jeff the Crafter, to print you some kind of support bracket for that 3 devices above your new shiny server. They look like 3 sad dude hanging out of the windows and absolutely drunk! So now Jeff could make a video about the plan and the outcome, with a cocktail at the end. So that your wife can make one (two) as well, so that you can look at your 3 sad dude not being sad anymore, but straightened as.. straight! And drink up the same cocktail as Jeff advised to make, so all of us can be happy and I can finally go back to my mobo state and rest between to task. Sounds like a bip?

  • @nathanscarlett4772
    @nathanscarlett47722 ай бұрын

    Wife coming in for that clutch help 🍷

  • @juancarlosavalos6800
    @juancarlosavalos68003 ай бұрын

    Which website that you buy this case love it please let me know

  • @garthkey

    @garthkey

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm having trouble finding it as well

  • @Koop1337
    @Koop13373 ай бұрын

    Wow that's a nice Supermicro chassis you got there! Hey wait a minute...

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    You’ve activated my trap card

  • @FTLN
    @FTLN3 ай бұрын

    Make sure to update the firmware on that 9500-8i , earlier firmwares have some performance bugs.

  • @Darki73Gaming
    @Darki73Gaming3 ай бұрын

    Moving from TrueNAS Core to TrueNAS Scale is pretty easy through the UI. Nothing special there, however, if you are running it in a Proxmox as i do, there is one thing to do to ensure it will not hang randomly. You have to issue the following command only if you are running an AMD (either Ryzen or Epyc) CPU: midclt call system.advanced.update '{"kernel_extra_options": "tsc=unstable"}' I had no issues while running Core, but as soon as i moved to Scale, it started to hang randomly. After issuing the command above, it never hanged again.

  • @tangodown2721
    @tangodown27212 ай бұрын

    Beaides the 7302 anything else im 2024 that would make a good home server build that doesn't break the bank? Something a bit newer?

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    2 ай бұрын

    The new EPYC 4004 line looks nice if you don’t need a ton of pcie

  • @michaelloving8004
    @michaelloving80043 ай бұрын

    some times server manufactures require you to use both psu's like my HP dl380p g8 which runs a nvidia tesla k20 using the gpu riser kit 128gb ram 2x Intel xeon e5-2650v2 mellanox connectx-3 dual 40Gbps qsfp+

  • @DEDSECPROYT
    @DEDSECPROYT3 ай бұрын

    Wow, so cool upgrade by design

  • @minerzcollective6755
    @minerzcollective67553 ай бұрын

    Where can I buy this enclosure?

  • @TazzSmk
    @TazzSmk3 ай бұрын

    good thing about two PSUs is, you can't leave one unplugged, but mounted, and in case of failure, you won't waste time finding another compatible piece online xD

  • @wkm001
    @wkm0013 ай бұрын

    Just cancelled my order for a HL15. Been waiting three weeks and received an email saying it would be at least three more weeks. This case is out of my budget. Anyone have a good case recommendations?

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    Rosewill makes some good options if you don’t care about having a fancy backplane

  • @CampRusso
    @CampRusso3 ай бұрын

    Looks great inside having less cables. 😁🤘

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    ACTUALLY TRUE

  • @CampRusso

    @CampRusso

    3 ай бұрын

    @@RaidOwl plus better airflow 🌬️

  • @LordSaliss
    @LordSaliss3 ай бұрын

    The chassis looks really nice, but that is pretty expensive for an empty chassis. Ill stick with my two SuperMicro 36 bay 4U chassis instead that are only $500. Only two NVME bays on them, but I use it for mass storage anyway so that's fine.

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    Yep, niche products are never cheap

  • @slap-a-hoe

    @slap-a-hoe

    3 ай бұрын

    @@RaidOwlMust be nice to get things for free that you dont even know how to use lol

  • @mikeborkhuis7278
    @mikeborkhuis72783 ай бұрын

    For the dual power supplies, you could run one off each UPS in the bottom of the rack.

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    Big true

  • @pgoof78

    @pgoof78

    3 ай бұрын

    Or connect one to mains and one to UPS which is what I do with all my servers

  • @TechnoTim
    @TechnoTim3 ай бұрын

    Sweet chassis!

  • @rhb.digital
    @rhb.digital3 ай бұрын

    1U servers are just hanging around hehe.. better fix that sooner than later :D Nice upgrade btw

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    Soon they’ll be vertically mounted

  • @guy_autordie
    @guy_autordie3 ай бұрын

    Why the american wife trope is: the wife with a big ass glass of red wine? X)

  • @ewenchan1239
    @ewenchan12393 ай бұрын

    240-ish W for 80-90 TB - that's pretty good. Interestingly enough though, if I just scaled the power consumption by capacity (I'm running ~216 TB (raw) vs.~90 TB), that's a ratio of 2.4 * 240 W = 576 W, which is about where my server is, in terms of power consumption.

  • @droppingpins6244
    @droppingpins62443 ай бұрын

    Have you done a video for noobs on how to size a server based on needs? Like CPU, ram, efficiency, based on various combinations of uses? Honestly, I'm intrigued but autistic, was never amazing with 1s and 0s, and I feel like no matter how many videos and Google searches I do I'm missing out on some pre requisite information I still live the videos though. Thanks.

  • @YHK_YT
    @YHK_YT3 ай бұрын

    9:35 ooooooooooo aaaaaaaaa

  • @sageosaka
    @sageosaka3 ай бұрын

    isnt the point of redundant psu's that if a unit itself goes down, the system keeps running. i havent really heard much about people trying to use them in place of a backup solution like you mentioned. also - i think if you run them both they balance their load between themselves and become more efficient.

  • @inetcrimes
    @inetcrimes3 ай бұрын

    Do you still have the 3 original rosewill cages?? If so would you be willing to sell them?

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    I have the whole chassis but I’ll prob just try to sell that locally

  • @urzalukaskubicek9690
    @urzalukaskubicek96903 ай бұрын

    10:33 what do I get to point out that you the cpu fans are not aligned with the case air flow? :)

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    I orient my fans based on the position of the north star

  • @seethruhead7119
    @seethruhead71193 ай бұрын

    2:40 not me with a netapp 24 bay connected with a single mini sas

  • @shephusted2714
    @shephusted27143 ай бұрын

    no real info on drives or speeds or total capacity now that you have upgraded - what is the weak link now besides the asrock rack

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    I’m mysterious

  • @visghost
    @visghost3 ай бұрын

    three servers are crooked, so as not to fail, you can make guides from an aluminum corner of 50x50x2mm and they will not hang

  • @Doesntcompute2k
    @Doesntcompute2k3 ай бұрын

    Nice toy. Great video!

  • @nickarmani031
    @nickarmani0313 ай бұрын

    This can just in time. I'm doing the exact same thing and I was already looking for a solution just like this for 24 HDD!

  • @codegame027
    @codegame0273 ай бұрын

    You should still connect BOTH PSUs even if they are on the same circuit if ONE of the PSUs fail the other will pick up the difference

  • @jonjohnson2844
    @jonjohnson28443 ай бұрын

    What do you pay per kWh?

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    $0.16 but I have solar with 1-1 buyback

  • @hotstovejer
    @hotstovejer2 ай бұрын

    That price though...

  • @AlexInshallah
    @AlexInshallah3 ай бұрын

    @RaidOwl are you a LSU fan? Geaux tigers!!!

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah

  • @timelschner8451
    @timelschner84513 ай бұрын

    When the wife comes with a glas of wine to help we all know very well what kind of assistance was offered and....thankfully accepted.🎉 Shout out to our lovely wifes loving us nerds.❤

  • @oscarcharliezulu
    @oscarcharliezulu3 ай бұрын

    Hey baldy, thanks for the vid. Your sincerely, Other Baldy.

  • @george_gav24
    @george_gav243 ай бұрын

    Hoo ahhh!!!

  • @adam03957
    @adam039573 ай бұрын

    I’m less than 2 minutes in but I’m going to refer to this as a sidegrade, it’s not an up or downgrade but a side step to a better path up.

  • @jacobnoori
    @jacobnoori3 ай бұрын

    0:43 This is exactly how I migrated my PC parts to a new case

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    Works like a charm

  • @bulzaiguard
    @bulzaiguard3 ай бұрын

    why didn't i find this case when i needed it

  • @CantankerousDave
    @CantankerousDave3 ай бұрын

    I thought that was a garage door in the thumbnail…

  • @StillConfusing
    @StillConfusing3 ай бұрын

    this is what we in the biz call a sidegrade

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    The ole parallel swapsie daisy

  • @vollhorst140
    @vollhorst1403 ай бұрын

    Nice !

  • @gavinskurrie
    @gavinskurrie3 ай бұрын

    Oooo aaaaahhhhh wow!

  • @joshhaas8121
    @joshhaas81213 ай бұрын

    Cool

  • @stoneobscurity
    @stoneobscurity3 ай бұрын

    i had issues installing vm of scale. i finally ended up just running the core to scale upgrade and it worked fine. now running scale with no issues. (backup your config first)

  • @heyitsburt
    @heyitsburt3 ай бұрын

    be honest... the wife showed up to find out how long till the plex server was back up so she could get back to binging trash TV...

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    She's the one who watches real shows...I just put Bob's Burgers on loop lol

  • @jj-icejoe6642
    @jj-icejoe66423 ай бұрын

    Again ?

  • @idontremember69
    @idontremember693 ай бұрын

    oooooooooooooooooo aaaaaaaah

  • @joseph3164
    @joseph31643 ай бұрын

    ooo ahh

  • @truckerallikatuk
    @truckerallikatuk3 ай бұрын

    You should have just connected the back backplane to the sata only connector on your motherboard... It's sata to sata over a sas cable... whatever.

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    wait...

  • @BrunodeSouzaLino

    @BrunodeSouzaLino

    3 ай бұрын

    @@RaidOwl While you can use SATA drives on a SAS backplane, you can't use SAS drives on a SATA backplane. In theory, you could've simply connected a single Mini SAS cable from one of the ports to the board, as the manual doesn't say you can't do that.

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah my mind went from “crap I can’t use those 2 motherboard ports for the backplane” to “oh I’ll just use them for two sata drives” then somehow went back to “wait this won’t work” 😅

  • @kristopherleslie8343
    @kristopherleslie83433 ай бұрын

    Buddy you getting nice things without mf 😊

  • @WhyitJellyDonut
    @WhyitJellyDonut3 ай бұрын

    Oooo, ahhhh

  • @GrishTech
    @GrishTech3 ай бұрын

    Oooooo Ahhhh

  • @abrahamlora3650
    @abrahamlora36503 ай бұрын

    uuuuuuhhhhhh aaaaaahhhhhh

  • @shekchuenlui7569
    @shekchuenlui75693 ай бұрын

    Diy server,not hp server or dell

  • @ronaldagorsah7954
    @ronaldagorsah79543 ай бұрын

    Uuuu aaaaa woooow ich Dock love your Videos

  • @adamsshorts276
    @adamsshorts2763 ай бұрын

    excellent

  • @khakushia
    @khakushia3 ай бұрын

    oooooooo ahhhhhhh

  • @Don_Roberto_Hardelone
    @Don_Roberto_Hardelone3 ай бұрын

    Ooooo... aaaah

  • @cd819
    @cd8193 ай бұрын

    if only I was rich😔

  • @phillipmartinez583
    @phillipmartinez5833 ай бұрын

    o0o0o

  • @AIC_onyt
    @AIC_onyt3 ай бұрын

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooo aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • @otmarosok
    @otmarosok3 ай бұрын

    Bifurcation? Split PCI-e? Haven't you heard? No! Бифуркация? Разделенный PCI-e? Не слышал? Нет!

  • @leo_craft1
    @leo_craft13 ай бұрын

    PLEASE do not put NOCTUA FANS... PLEASE NO

  • @RaidOwl

    @RaidOwl

    3 ай бұрын

    Lol when did I say I was gonna do that?

  • @leo_craft1

    @leo_craft1

    3 ай бұрын

    @@RaidOwl you didn't but I unsub if you do it

  • @sbme1147

    @sbme1147

    3 ай бұрын

    @@leo_craft1 If you do NOT put them in there. I will unsub. So either way you Lose. j/k 🤣

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