home made epoxy granite cnc - part 6 - first moves

Ғылым және технология

Slowly it's getting there. Here I'm assembling a few more parts and testing the Chinese closed loop stepper.
A little more details on this build in written form you'll find here: dangeroustools.com/category/cnc/
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  • @KravchenkoAudioPerth
    @KravchenkoAudioPerth4 жыл бұрын

    Nice progress on your machine. Happy that you learned your lesson on respecting what a table saw can do with loose pieces in front of the blade. Mark

  • @SouthernEngineering
    @SouthernEngineering4 жыл бұрын

    I've been following along with your build, great job 👍👍

  • @JohanFasth
    @JohanFasth4 жыл бұрын

    I have seen the finished result and I am amazed that you made that with basic machinery and of course a lot of skill. Butt still. Amazingly done!

  • @ActiveAtom
    @ActiveAtom4 жыл бұрын

    Moving along nice to watch the build continue. Lets get her dialed in. Lance & Patrick.

  • @richardallankellogg
    @richardallankellogg Жыл бұрын

    This is a great series. But it really needs a narration, explaining what you are doing, what choices you made, and why you made them.

  • @SailingYachtDreamcatcher
    @SailingYachtDreamcatcher4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent work!

  • @IronForestKnives
    @IronForestKnives4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome work! I'm about to start converting my G0704 to full linear rails and your work is a great inspiration. I'm going to try and film the process, but we'll see how that goes...

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    Don't get inspired too much. Don't know yet how it's gonna perform... Looking forward following your build!

  • @IronForestKnives

    @IronForestKnives

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joergbeigang I'm sure yours will turn out just fine! I've already done my z axis and it was a huge improvement, so I've got a little experience under my belt.

  • @x0urce942
    @x0urce9424 жыл бұрын

    Those repeat readings are pretty sick for a homebuild machine O.O even for a bought one i would consider this superb

  • @chrisstavro4698
    @chrisstavro46982 жыл бұрын

    great demonstration why the best machines are so expensive. not only are they precise in 1D, but in 2D as well as 3D, across all temperature conditions.

  • @dieMukumuku
    @dieMukumuku4 жыл бұрын

    Nice work. I am excited how good the milling results will be later. So far I think you did a really good Job!

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Same here, can't wait to see if it was worth all the effort

  • @dieMukumuku

    @dieMukumuku

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joergbeigang Well, it will be at least as good as all the other aluminum routers. I am more excited how much better it will be. Keep on going with that good work.

  • @giswaradarusmansaleh2935
    @giswaradarusmansaleh29354 жыл бұрын

    Cant wait for the first chip

  • @tillmanxl6914
    @tillmanxl69144 жыл бұрын

    Oh man, that was scary.I hope you didn't get hurt, very nice project.

  • @furydonnico
    @furydonnico2 жыл бұрын

    I'm searching for fittings with M6x0.75 thread for lubrication as you did, seems to be H20 like mine, do you remember where you get them ? Which lubricant did you use ?

  • @Max_Marz
    @Max_Marz4 жыл бұрын

    can see the indicator mount flexing in the video when doing your positioning tests :x

  • @JohanRoosberg
    @JohanRoosberg2 жыл бұрын

    I love the table saw hack. Noice.

  • @SuperYellowsubmarin
    @SuperYellowsubmarin4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome build. Great to see how you managed to build this without using a mill at least for accurately boring small components. How did you manage to dial in the ballscrew and servo mount with the rails ? Did you use shims or the like ? Granite epoxy builds are becoming more and more common with cheap linear rails and ballscrews, it's exciting to see how it's enabling builders to literally build machines from scratch.

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. The bearings of the ball screws and the mounts of the motors are sitting on 5mm spacers. Thouse I filed, sanded and lapped till the ball screw was parallel to the rails. Sure not the fastest way, but it worked...

  • @SuperYellowsubmarin

    @SuperYellowsubmarin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joergbeigang Yope, just watched your previous videos. Well, that's what you do when you can't mill them flat. Have a look at my chanel, I'm retrofitting an existing lathe with centroid controls. A bigger mill will sure be the next build, been watching granite / epoxy for a while now. I would love to make one from square steel tubes stuffed with e/g.

  • @radikult-custom
    @radikult-custom4 жыл бұрын

    I see why when you cutting the aluminum on the table saw, you had full protection.. it has happen to me before too

  • @nicolaivalenti4045

    @nicolaivalenti4045

    3 жыл бұрын

    has happen what?

  • @piotrlenarczyk5803
    @piotrlenarczyk58034 жыл бұрын

    Epoxy after few cycles of temperature alterations bonds faster. Mechanical dimensions probably would be better if temperature changes slowly, in controlled conditions. Please note, that epoxy could directly make good threads.

  • @antons6146
    @antons61464 жыл бұрын

    Which Linear guide blocks are these, is that cooling or lubrication you feeding them. Great build!

  • @danielmattsson8574

    @danielmattsson8574

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lube

  • @3dkiwi920
    @3dkiwi9204 жыл бұрын

    Awesome dude! Are the plates the rails are resting on alu or steel?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    They're aluminum cause I'm not really having the tools to cut steel precisely enough (got basically only a handsaw and an angle grinder). Hope they'll do.

  • @shanedoyle1057
    @shanedoyle10573 жыл бұрын

    This is a really cool build. What did you use for the plates? Was it steel or aluminium?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    3 жыл бұрын

    I used aluminum. Which is good for the plates, but terrible for the Z-assembly

  • @Eddy_AREA99
    @Eddy_AREA994 жыл бұрын

    Hi Nice video, Wat is the stick you are using on the circular saw, I guess for lubrication.

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. It's made for tapping, but does a pretty good job on the saw blade as well.

  • @JustinAlexanderBell
    @JustinAlexanderBell4 жыл бұрын

    10:04 Looks like the table is hitting the indicator holder.

  • @caseycappoen251

    @caseycappoen251

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @ChrisHarmon1
    @ChrisHarmon14 жыл бұрын

    More rigid than my Precision Matthew PM45M(CNC from factory). You have a great start it's just the details like backlash and spindle quality that will make or break you.

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    Worst case I could swap the ball screws later on. It's difficult for me to tell the effect of each parameter. I'm doing this the first time and experience can't be replaced.

  • @fragapple
    @fragapple4 жыл бұрын

    What are you using to grease your table saw? Looks like a neat time-saving and versatile option to use the table saw for aluminium :-)

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's tapping grease. And it's a special saw blade for aluminum. Every second tooth is a tiny little bit longer and got chamfered sides. And of course the angle of the teeth is less aggressive compared to a saw blade for wood.

  • @aarondcmedia9585
    @aarondcmedia95854 жыл бұрын

    Which class are your ballscrews? As long as repeatability is there you can map inaccuracies in software to deal with that as the machine mills. The project is looking great, well done.

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    I honestly don't know which class they are. The whole build is on a budget, so I bought cheap Chinese ones. To compensate the backlash in the control software would be an option. I just figured that Glass scales are absolutely affordable. Creating a control loop with that and linuxcnc sounds very interesting to me. I just didn't find anything about hobbyists using them. Wonder why. Anyway these are things to keep myself busy in the future. First of all I wanna get it working at all.

  • @anderslarsson7123

    @anderslarsson7123

    4 жыл бұрын

    Joerg Beigang check out “metalmusings” he uses glass scales with Linux cnc

  • @Mr7yhnmki8
    @Mr7yhnmki84 жыл бұрын

    How many stitches did you need?

  • @dukesilva5425
    @dukesilva54253 ай бұрын

    What engine is it using??? how many kg can it hold???

  • @user-tg6jv3om1v
    @user-tg6jv3om1v4 жыл бұрын

    Береги себя =)

  • @leviisrael3752
    @leviisrael37524 жыл бұрын

    this is nice

  • @dukesilva5425
    @dukesilva54253 ай бұрын

    Qual motor nema ele esta usando, e quantos kg esse motor aguenta???

  • @chronokoks
    @chronokoks4 жыл бұрын

    The test at 9:35 .. the scrawny swivel/articulated arm is nowhere stiff enough to be able to properly accomodate the forces from a 1/1000 dial indicator.. the whole arm simply flexes too much... use a different more rigid method or buy a hydraulic arm/stand (HG) (or an oversized NOGA like articulated arm mag stand).. anyway an awesome awesome machine that should make some nice chips soon :)

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    I observed that as well on the footage. The stand is indeed pretty flimsy. But it's somehow amazing how accurate it's flexing. I mean it moves tenth of millimeters and the results are all in a range of 1/100 millimeter. For sure I gotta find a better solution for that. And I'm happy that you like my build!

  • @davidshepherd7533
    @davidshepherd753310 ай бұрын

    Could you share where you purchased the grease fittings and tube?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    10 ай бұрын

    the nipples were mounted on the linear bearings, I replaced them there with the quick release fittings for the tubes. I bought all that stuff online, could have been ebay, can't really remember. If you google for pneumatic tube and quick release you'll find plenty.

  • @poliproto2023
    @poliproto2023 Жыл бұрын

    What is the working space of your machine ?

  • @KingZeusCLE
    @KingZeusCLE6 ай бұрын

    What do gou think about doing a summary video with narration? Condense all these build videos into maybe 25-35 minutes and actually talk about what you're doing and why. I'd watch frim beginning to end and a couple of the parts I was confused on, it could provide some clarification. But excellent work. Looking forward to more!

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    6 ай бұрын

    Good point. I can understand that it's not always that easy to follow, also because I only recorded a small part of the actual work and often I was working around problems which are not that obvious. Making a summary video is of course a good idea, but it's also time consuming. And time is the crucial point here. I'm pretty busy at work plus I'm also renovating a house I recently bought. But it's definitely on my to do list.

  • @fredio54
    @fredio54 Жыл бұрын

    What are the blue tubes at 2:38? Air feed to prevent dust and swarf entering? Or?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    Жыл бұрын

    For oil. Without them it would be pretty hard to reach the bearings when the machine is assembled.

  • @jozlong2519
    @jozlong25194 жыл бұрын

    Be careful, brother, nothing is more important than safety.

  • @DR-br5gb
    @DR-br5gb3 жыл бұрын

    Where did you source the slotted table or did you make your own?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bought it on Amazon I think. But it's for sure a weak point. One day I should put at least 20 mm solid aluminum under it

  • @onurmemis3618
    @onurmemis36184 жыл бұрын

    Do you plan on using a counterweight for the z axis?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    No, I'll try without first. It's not too heavy so far, I mean it's not moving down on its own

  • @uio2415
    @uio2415 Жыл бұрын

    link to steppers?

  • @fehmiatas
    @fehmiatas2 жыл бұрын

  • @mathiasjapri
    @mathiasjapri3 жыл бұрын

    kickback is no joke.

  • @DinosRcModels
    @DinosRcModels4 жыл бұрын

    I hope all is well .. we use dangerous tools and despite the expertise and attention we must always pay attention.

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    All fine here. Usually I know when to expect a kick back, but this time I was pretty surprised. Guess the dull saw blade did is part as well. Gotta get it sharpened. One of the biggest risks is routine. Doing the same thing often enough and at one point paying less attention is just natural.

  • @Shinyaf9
    @Shinyaf94 жыл бұрын

    How is the accuracy and preload of the ball screw?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    Got no idea. Cheap Chinese one...

  • @Shinyaf9

    @Shinyaf9

    4 жыл бұрын

    Joerg Beigang The fixed accuracy is great. I also make it. Although it is a DLP printer.

  • @davidmiller5832
    @davidmiller58324 жыл бұрын

    Do you giggle a little inside when you see an 8040 extrusion cnc mill?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not at all. Was my first idea as well. Was drawing a few extrusion based designs in cad the last years. But wasn't convinced enough to actually start building one. And with this epoxy granite design I actually made, there was also the challenge of trying something new and see if it works out the way I imagined it. For me it's more about learning new things and pushing my own limits then comparing my machine to other home made ones. In the end there not only a machine, there are also new skills and experiences. Both quite handy for future projects :-)

  • @squidyPet
    @squidyPet4 жыл бұрын

    Omg!!!

  • @samraza5802
    @samraza58023 жыл бұрын

    Can you please tell me what n.m of the servo did you used ?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can't remember exactly. They are some Chinese nema 24 closes loop steppers. I think they should be all the same, just labeled differently

  • @samraza5802

    @samraza5802

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah but i want to know the amp exectly what its needed for job

  • @samraza5802

    @samraza5802

    3 жыл бұрын

    I want to know the amp or n.m power

  • @samraza5802

    @samraza5802

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is it nema 24 566 onzz power motor ? And can i use nema 23 4A closed loop servo too ?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    3 жыл бұрын

    Google for "hss60 nema 24". Think it's 3nm. But that's more a theoretical value.

  • @McFlysGarage
    @McFlysGarage4 жыл бұрын

    Kickback is no fun and it’s even more so when cutting aluminum

  • @teknikkemal07
    @teknikkemal074 жыл бұрын

    😲😲😀😀👍

  • @MohammadRezaSiam
    @MohammadRezaSiam4 жыл бұрын

    please someone explain for me what's the purpose of those air hosing?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    They are for lubrication

  • @MohammadRezaSiam

    @MohammadRezaSiam

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joergbeigang thank you very much, are they mandatory?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MohammadRezaSiam without I couldn't reach the Grease nipples anymore. So they are moved to a point where they can be comfortably reached.

  • @MohammadRezaSiam

    @MohammadRezaSiam

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joergbeigang thanks man, appreciate your reply.

  • @hardwareful
    @hardwareful3 жыл бұрын

    8:22 looks like the perfect opportunity to lose a fingertip. With just a 1 cm gap, this could have been avoided. Never invite these things by design - and if there's a cover on later, it'll get you that one time you're operating it without.

  • @969IIBelial
    @969IIBelial4 жыл бұрын

    stepper is the worst thing you can use for a table router its like using a 3d fdm printer with a spindle on it to mill aluminium

  • @briancrane7634
    @briancrane76344 жыл бұрын

    Nice diagnostic with the inaccurate stepper motor!

  • @PiefacePete46
    @PiefacePete464 жыл бұрын

    You OK?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sure I am :-)

  • @boanchen589
    @boanchen5894 жыл бұрын

    Did you hurt ?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    No, all good :-)

  • @boanchen589

    @boanchen589

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joergbeigang If you want to machine metal, you still need to fix it with a clamp. Good luck. Very like your cnc machine .

  • @robertfontaine3650
    @robertfontaine365010 ай бұрын

    Yes that is rigid enough.

  • @torkalovolodymyr5097
    @torkalovolodymyr50974 жыл бұрын

    Hi. @Joerg Beigang kzread.info/dash/bejne/d62G3NOidpicXdI.html I have one question regarding rail blocks: How did you bolted rail blocks on the bottom of X axis? they are square type (without flange) - so must be bolted from the top of block Are you using some long bolts to tighten from top side of X axis?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's not shown in the vid. They are bolted on an aluminum plate, which is bolted to the button plate of the x axis. In the button plate of the x axis are some bigger holes to make room for the heads of the screws. Hope that's more or less understandable

  • @torkalovolodymyr5097

    @torkalovolodymyr5097

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joergbeigang Ah. got it. thank you!

  • @torkalovolodymyr5097

    @torkalovolodymyr5097

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@joergbeigang And yet one question: how you assembled axis: install blocks with adapted plate, align them, tighten bolts, take off plate with blocks, screw it to X axis and install whole axis assembly on rails, right? isn't it complicated to fit blocks on rails while holding whole X axis?

  • @joergbeigang

    @joergbeigang

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Adjusting it square to y was pain in the bum. Bearing blocks with flanges would have been more straightforward and would have saved 10mm in height.

  • @dixeyfuly
    @dixeyfuly4 жыл бұрын

    your index finger has 8 more lives..

  • @TheLimalha
    @TheLimalha2 жыл бұрын

    GREAT JOB, BUT, USING THE WRONG TOOLS. YOU CAN'T USE A CIRCULAR SAW, WHEN YOU SHOULD BE USING A MILLING MACHINE !!!!!

  • @dukesilva5425
    @dukesilva54252 жыл бұрын

    .

  • @Trooper266
    @Trooper2663 жыл бұрын

    I think that's the worst kickback that I have seen on KZread.

  • @Newera2047
    @Newera20472 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff But Bad editing

  • @Newera2047
    @Newera20472 жыл бұрын

    almost viewers knows drilling process... Just dril one hole balance holes mute it un neccessory things.... Be matured Ur giving more important to Silly things Don'tshow 100% of Drilling... it's not is not so much important to us

  • @Newera2047
    @Newera20472 жыл бұрын

    Don't do fast-forward..... Viewing is too much painful to our eyes

  • @piotrlenarczyk5803
    @piotrlenarczyk58034 жыл бұрын

    Epoxy after few cycles of temperature alterations bonds faster. Mechanical dimensions probably would be better if temperature changes slowly, in controlled conditions. Please note, that epoxy could directly make good threads.

  • @josehernandez5671

    @josehernandez5671

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was even lazier, got some rails with threads on them (same price) from HiWin, put on some threads and then made the epoxy bed on top of those, didn't even had to thread. GREAT dimensional accuracy BTW. picked up the flatness from the granite table efortlessly and haven't had a problem.

  • @josehernandez5671

    @josehernandez5671

    4 жыл бұрын

    Used some rails with bottom fasteners (screws go from the bottom), screwed it in place and then just poured the epoxy on top. fasteners served as anchors only, used also some nuts to add tension to the load and counter-screw them to the rail.

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