There was no such thing as a Capital of Ancient Russia. Russia did not exist at that time. Even Moskovia did not exist at that period. Moscovia was established in 1283. Moscovian tsar Ivan the Terrible destroyed Novgorod in 1570, massacred all population and burned the city to the ground. This is how it became part of Moskovia first, after Moskovia declared itself Russia in 1721, Novgorod became part of Russia. Also Rus has nothing to do with Russia. The title is inacurate. Why to mislead your viewers? We are not dumb.

@runemasterhariwulfaz5267

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s meant to mislead anybody. That area is today known as Russia, which is why it is referred to as ancient. Would be like saying “ancient china” even though a unified state known as china is a modern thing. It’s simply ease of terminology. Nobody would want to watch a video titled called “Holmgang, the city in lands we currently call Russian but actually weren’t called Russia in the past and the Russians technically massacred them and this even predates the muscovites.”

@user-yi7fl3br7u

2 ай бұрын

that is you who are misleading, gathereing all this sh..t from your ukrainian schools

@JaMeshuggah

2 ай бұрын

Triggered

@ZS-rw4qq

2 ай бұрын

Moscovian tsar Ivan the fourth Rurikovich hmmmm... Why does that last name sound familiar?

@ZS-rw4qq

2 ай бұрын

​@@runemasterhariwulfaz5267Ironically, ancient Rus was ancient Russia until 2022 when suddenly it became ancient Ukraine

There were so much contact between Sweden and Russia 1000 years ago, so we have some common folklore even.. Older people from east Sweden, when they see a black cat, spit three times over their left shoulder when they want to stop bad luck to happen..They do the same in Russia... There are also believe in Tomte, in Russia Domevoi. In Sweden we call it Troll, in Russia Lezji... There are also other examples.., but this signifies much contact in the viking-age....

@acfdoo830

2 ай бұрын

In Serbia allso 😊

@rankoujkic4559

2 ай бұрын

In Montenegro some spit some scratch their balls

@progresstothestars

2 ай бұрын

the word comes from serbian word Hum meaning forrest, and Saami in Siberia, means alone in serbian. you are all serbs.

@user-go6qw5ug5w

Ай бұрын

Русы не шведы.Рослаген фейк придуманный шведами с помощью Романовых и немецких учёных.Русь существовала ещё до Рорака.Рорак это славянское имя,оно означает - сокол.Герб Рорака пикирующий сокол. Украинцы изуродовали его символ превратив его в клеймо для скота хазарского каганата.Русь значит наполненая солнцем земля.Русы значит русые. Русый значит цвета солнца. Историю Руси уничтожали Романовы,чтобы перевести русских в христианство. Люди бунтовали и ненавидели новую религию. Это событие названо кровавым крещением. Только со временем когда народ лишили его истоков и памяти и переписали и перерисовали все иконы люди стали воспринимать Святовида как троицу, а Сварога который и без христиан был у нас Богом творцом и создателем всего сущего и называл нас своими детьми - христианским Илохимом.

@gfhsxdf5769

Ай бұрын

@@progresstothestarsall are Finns*

Holm-hlm-hum on slavic(Serbian) mean hill. Holmgard -(Hlmgrad),mean,city on hill.

@comment6864

2 ай бұрын

Yup, in Russian too!! But here they keep insisting on Swedish 'holme', which i guess means island LOL, and keep using the germanic ending 'gard' instead of 'grad', the slavic one. 😆

@karilang9377

2 ай бұрын

I know also butterbread is Russian

@petrygebliebenerschlagerfan67

2 ай бұрын

Потому что древнерусское слово для холма не холм а хълмъ (хелме). Название тогда должно было быть "Хелмеграде" ("хелме" и "граде", так как в древнерусском языке было не типично оканчивать слово на согласную), а вот "holm", "holmr" или "holmi" в то время обозначало островок на языке варяг (древнескандинавский), но не обозначал "холм" на языке местных славян. "Gard" (сокращение слова garðr) обозначало укрепление или крепость. Древне русский язык похож, но одновременно очень отличаетсья от современного языка. Because the ancient russian word for hill is not holm but хълмъ (helme). The name then should have been “Helmegrade” (“helme” and “grade”, since in the Old Russian language it was not typical to end a word with a consonant), but “holm”, “holmr” or “holmi” at that time designated a small island in the Varangian (Old Norse) language, but did not mean “hill” in the language of the local Slavs. "Gard" (short form of garðr) meant fortified position or fort. The ancient russian (old east slavic) language is similar, but at the same time very different from the modern language@@comment6864

@aleksandarnikolic2743

Ай бұрын

​@@petrygebliebenerschlagerfan67 Serbian lenguage have some synonyms for word hill (brdo, hlm hum,breg(similar to Swedish berg )). Gard or Slavic(Serbian) grad means city or fortress on hill. HOLMGARD-HUMGRAD-FORTRES ON HILL

@venomlink2033

Ай бұрын

Boston was the first capital of Russia confirmed

Thank you for including music from the Morrowind OST.

@chicliac

Ай бұрын

Knew that sounded familiar :)

@menotme8085

7 күн бұрын

​@chicliac OH god I'm not insane, I heard it for only a moment but was immediately confused. So unexpected but not unwelcome

Hello, I am historical student from Russia. I like your channel, your videos is very good. It is rarely fashionable to see English-language content on this topic. However, comments are something terrible. But that's always the case under historical videos: politics, controversy, and human stupidity. So, l wish you good luck!

@user-cs5xn3ux2w

2 күн бұрын

And a little remark: "gorodishche" is pronounced with an accent on the "i"

An excellent and interesting account of a complex period.

Thank you for sharing your work 💙🙏

Большое спасибо. Я из России,историк, этнограф. Великий Новгород до сих пор среди многих европейских историков считается настоящим Европейским городом средневековья.

Hi there, I want to add the we Slovenes still exist, we only moved from Russia to Slovenia. We know that we contributed to the founding of Novgorod state, but for some reason this topic is forbidden among the public as well among the historians both on the slovenian side as well on the russian side. About names, Gorodishe, Gradishe in slovenian means a fortified settlement sorounded by a palisade and ditches. Holm is a hill, Gorod, Grad is a settlement or a fortification, Novgorod is Novigrad meaning new town. Pozerie, Pojezerje meaning lake side.

@berserk9085

2 ай бұрын

No. Slovenians in Nowgorod spoke East Slavic. Not South Slavic.

@darkobozic6831

2 ай бұрын

@@berserk9085 Are you Russian?

@berserk9085

2 ай бұрын

@@darkobozic6831 Yes. And?

@darkobozic6831

2 ай бұрын

@@berserk9085 Russians by default reject any connection with Slovenians.

@berserk9085

2 ай бұрын

@@darkobozic6831 Why? Never heard of that.

Initially at least according to one founding legend of Sloven and Rus, Novgorod was initially called Slovensk. Ilmen lake was also called Slovene sea.

English: „Island compound“ ☝️🤓 Norse: „Holmgard“ 🪓🗿🛡

@EresirThe1st

2 ай бұрын

A better English translation would be keygarden

@mellon4251

2 ай бұрын

Or Islecester

@m.l.6685

2 ай бұрын

Holmgrad = hill town in Slavic

@karilang9377

2 ай бұрын

Rygsack=Ryggsäck

wow that's interesting! thank you so much 🙏

Great video. Very enjoyable.

Another good video, but I would love to see you tell more stories like the Beer-Hood one.

@balticempire7244

2 ай бұрын

the saga readings don't perform well

@adamradziwill

2 ай бұрын

No, his Moscow centrated (colonial) terminology is badly misleading...

@comment6864

2 ай бұрын

@@adamradziwill lots of misleading stuff in this video

@TheBobVova

2 ай бұрын

@@adamradziwill Deal with it

@karilang9377

2 ай бұрын

​@@adamradziwilldon't say anything bad about Moskva. Finnugri word ending with -va means at water. And Moskva means a cow drinking / crossing place. Finns were first living there and later were mixed with Mongolians.

Thank you for the interesting video. 👍

I love your content, keep it up! Have you considered doing any videos on the different Baltic tribes? I'd love to see a video on the Yotvingians or maybe the Baltic Prussians!

holm is the Russian root for a small hill, not an island, though of course an island may well have a hill on it.

@gideonros2705

2 ай бұрын

In Serbian the old term HELM was any elevated terrain. The words are probably related. An island would logical be a 'holm' because it is a piece of land protruding or raising from the water.

@comment6864

2 ай бұрын

@@gideonros2705 Perhaps.. but it's a stretch, because never in Russian is holm used to mean anything other than a small hill. In fact you can have a holm on an island (island = ostrov), the implication being NOT the entire island.

@glaz5228

2 ай бұрын

Holm is actually small island in Swedish and many other Germanic languages. In Proto-Germanic the word was hulmaz which was borrowed into Proto-Slavic and became holm in the sense of hill.

@comment6864

2 ай бұрын

@@glaz5228 Exactly, they are trying to apply foreign words to Russian typography. It was mentioned that holm is an island, but in Russian it is not! I figured out of course that it is likely in Swedish, etc.

@DonDaddaDanoDaDaneCalledDanno

2 ай бұрын

@@comment6864 in Swedish, Danish and Norwegian a Holm is a small elevated hill. The Danish Island of Bornholm is called so because it's like a small "Holm" in the Baltic sea. And the Born is because it is where The Burgundians originated from. Or Borgunderne as we call them in most Nordic languages. But Serbia should be thankfull that we gave them culture!:)

Are there any ship burial monds within the vicinity of that region?

I always learn so much Norse from these vids.

6:58-7:13 that is such a fascinating practice and theories!!!

I can contribute by translating text at 13:55 "Bow to you from Smenka and from Korelina. We come to your village Pitarevo. What do you say? Master, order anything. And I will serve you. It's easy to understand that Semen Korelin run from his prevoius feudal to new master and want to serve him now.

are there any plans for making a video(s) on finnic populations during these time like the one on the wends?

@runemasterhariwulfaz5267

2 ай бұрын

I’d be very curious about that. I’ve always wondered about the heavy preponderance of haplogroup N extending from Lithuania to the lands much further north east

@dasarath5779

2 ай бұрын

@@runemasterhariwulfaz5267 ive read that a couple estonian archaeologists and historians agree with the theory of finnic conquerors conquering the baltic and thus spreading the N haplogroup via rapes. those same articles say it happend within a generation likely. this and some other archeological and linguistic evidence may also point to an extremely shortlived (feudal) state (some even say that the myths of kaleva and his sons are from this time period, and that the person who inspired kaleva was the leader of this state), which covered most of the baltics and possibly even mälar area in sweden (evidence points to a finnic elite population, nicknamed mälar finns, living and ruling over a small part of sweden for a short amount of time before being assimilated) granted, this is all speculation and theory, but its just some ive read

@TicketLicker

2 ай бұрын

unite Baltics in a horisontal-democratic autonomous anarcho-syndicate and we talk xD

@dasarath5779

2 ай бұрын

@@TicketLicker what?

@runemasterhariwulfaz5267

2 ай бұрын

@@dasarath5779 this makes sense. From what I’ve seen haplogroup N showed up very rapidly around 500 BC. It is interesting that Lithuania and Latvia retained a proto-Indo-European language and many other areas maintained a Uralic one

Incredible video, precise research. Thanks!

This was an excellent video. There is so much content. Thank you. [I believe that some of the wheel of time lore must have been inspired from this history.]

Can you provide a source for that elder futhark runic inscription you mentioned? That artifact is of extreme interest to me

@balticempire7244

2 ай бұрын

Viking Rus - Wladyslaw Duczko

@runemasterhariwulfaz5267

2 ай бұрын

@@balticempire7244 thank you very much!

The Varangian name of the city Holmgård (Holmgarðr or Holmgarðir) is mentioned in Norse Sagas as existing at a yet earlier stage, but historical facts cannot here be disentangled from legend. Originally, Holmgård referred only to the stronghold southeast of the present-day city, Riurikovo Gorodishche. Archeological data suggests that the Gorodishche, the residence of the Knyaz (prince), dates from the middle of the 9th century, whereas the town itself dates only from the end of the 10th century, hence the name Novgorod, the "new city", from Proto-Slavic "Новъ" and "Градъ" (Nov and Grad), although German and Scandinavian historiography suggests the Old Norse term Nýgarðr, or the Old High German term Naugard. The first mention of this Nordic or Germanic etymology to the name of the city of Novgorod (and that of other cities within the territory of the then Kievan Rus') occurs in the 10th-century policy manual De Administrando Imperio by the Byzantine emperor Constantine VII. The Varangian toponym Holmgard means Islet town or Islet grad, and there are various explanations for why they gave this name. According to Rydzevskaya, the Norse name is derived from the Slavic Holmgrad which means "town on a hill" and may allude to the "old town" preceding the "new town", or Novgorod. Truthfully, the meaning of this Norse toponym, "island garden", has no satisfactory meaning. According to Rydzevskaya, the Norse name is derived from the Slavic "Holmgrad" which means "town on a hill" and may allude to the "old town" preceding the "new town", or Novgorod - for the aforementioned reasons. The city's origin is West Slavic and has sisterly relations with the city of Starigrad, not to mention that all findings of Norse making are items of trade, whereas the Slavic items are domestic produce, the same is seen in R. Gorodische. Herberstein did, in fact, dismiss the idea of the Norse origin of the Rurikids (he states that there is no reason for the Russians to invite foreigners to govern them), and he distinguished them from the Wagrians - whom he had specifically attested as Slavs, the same is repeated in a 1417 Latin manuscript of the Rurikid genealogy where they're attested as a "Wendish" ruling family. Furthermore, I suggest the work of Matti Klinge (The Baltic World) on the matter, he, just like Herberstein, states the same.

@VendPrekmurec

10 сағат бұрын

Novgorod was built upon a previous settlement known as Gorodishche or Gradishche and was ruled by Ilmen Slovenes. After the unification with Varangian Slavs or Vagrians from current area of Poland and Germany, who ruled over the city of Stargard or "Old City" (Gard meant "City"; surrounded area, like Garden... with "fences"), they moved their capital city to Gradishche and was called New City or Novgard or Novgorod. This is why Varangians or Vagrians were never Vikings, who were simply Jarl tribes.

Very interesting study on eastern Scandinavians Baltic origin: "Steppe Ancestry in western Eurasia and the spread of the Germanic Languages’"

Thank you much, Baltic Empire! You are working under a very interesting and underrated things. I always thought, that it would be really cool to have a kind of "northern europe" history channel💯

Do you may do a Video of the Ushkuyniks?

It is crazy how words for city and new are so similar in Scandinavian languages and Slavic languages.

@goranatanasovski6463

2 ай бұрын

That's because of both languages descent from Indoeuropean and maybe also geograpical proximity and because of mutual interactions and influences on to each other, which led to the point that they didn't diverge more from each other like other Indoeuropean languages. In slavic languages "grad" can be used on a lot of "enclosed" areas. A vineyard is called "vinograd" in Serbo-Croatian for example and the verb "graditi" can be translated to "building". 🙂

@goranatanasovski6463

2 ай бұрын

little addendun: This word still exists in other germanic languages, just with another meaning. It's "Garden" (English), "Garten" (German) and this probably stems from the fact that a garden would also often be somehow enclosed. And there is also the word "guard" in English and "Garde" in German (which is used for honor guards)🙂

@nikkan3810

4 күн бұрын

When i was learning some swedish as a russian, i noticed a few surprising overlaps in vocabulary, it goes beyond just broad terms, everyday objects, descriptions of times etc. It's quite fun to discover this stuff.

@lukdhguirg7121

21 сағат бұрын

​@@goranatanasovski6463garden in Russian is "ogorod".

@goranatanasovski6463

16 сағат бұрын

@@lukdhguirg7121 Makes sense, in Serbo-Croatian "ograditi" would mean "fencing off" something and "ograda" the fence itself. So "ogorod" would be the area that is fenced off.

Gorodische means “mighty city” not “new city”. Makes sense that it was a forestress given the name and strategic location at the mouth of the river.

@bigboy379

2 ай бұрын

@@chriselliott4621 Gorod means city and originates from proto Slavic for a protected or fortified place. Nov does indeed mean new. Gorodische translates to a “might fortress” or “might town”. Not disputing that it’s the original settlement, just want to add some clarity.

@PyromaN93

2 ай бұрын

​@@bigboy379not might, but big.

@ChirkunovIvan

7 күн бұрын

No, it means the place of a city, in this sense it means the place of a city that no longer exists. Just like pozharische is a place of pozhar, and stanovische is a place for stan.

@PyromaN93

7 күн бұрын

@@ChirkunovIvan it have both meanings

Most goated channel how can I help also do more kharazan vids

It is crazy to imagine that humans would be colonizing other solar systems in an unrivaled golden age of prosperity were it not for the lack of a baltic empire 😢

14:35 Is the ''population of Novgorod'' correct to refer to Ilmen Slovenians (novgorod slavs)?

@koalabear1984

29 күн бұрын

Slovenci :D

@darkobozic6831

2 күн бұрын

Original text in Primary chronicles by monk Nestor says Ilmen Slovene and not Slavs. Slovenes are Slavs, but not all Slavs are Slovenes only Slovenes from Slovenia and Slovakia call themselves like that.

Love the morrowind music!

Very nice !!! I'm from here!!! 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿🦁🦁🦁

New viking theoretic here. Vikings got to thank slavic tribes for finding America prior to Columbus! Vikings were traveling around and robbing local villages, but at some point few communities united and kicked their butt so bad that they have jumped in their drakkars, missed beloved fjords and paddled all the way past Atlantic ocean! Skol ёпта!))

Holmegård? Sound awfully *historically Scandinavian*

@reset8140

2 ай бұрын

It really does!

@kimrizo1938

2 ай бұрын

it is Ostrovogard -Holmgard, Ostrovogard is from Westslavic language of polabian slavs/gard is a town, in Scandinavian gard is a small village/. who were colonised that territory they called themselves slovene, not slovane as eastslavic called themselves. Stove that was found in Ruric`s Gorodishche was of westslavic origin ! There are written legends of westslavic that tells about Ruric, Truvar and Suvar who went to east to Russia to rule over local tribes.

@that1metalhead792

2 ай бұрын

@@kimrizo1938 The evidence points towards the Wendish material culture, religion, and genetics. Maybe the nomad Turks were so impressed with the Wendish prince-horse-masters in the Eastern European plains they called them khans.

@kimrizo1938

2 ай бұрын

khan,knjaz(king),korol(karl),tsar(cesar) were loaned from different languages@@that1metalhead792

@milansimonovic8267

2 ай бұрын

Holm is from Serbina Hlm and it means Hill

I live in Holmgård, Sweden 👍🏻

@kumar8828

2 ай бұрын

idgaf

@karlbyrne6021

2 ай бұрын

@petter5721hello from viking dublin Ireland. Skol

@erikperik1000

2 ай бұрын

Roslagen?

@DonDaddaDanoDaDaneCalledDanno

2 ай бұрын

@@erikperik1000 🤣🤣 don't give them good ideas they already belive the most bizare "lore"🥴😂

@user-vk4tr8gv3c

Ай бұрын

Hello from Novgorod (Holmgard) ✌❤

Thanks! Lot here in the English speaking world don't easily have access to information like this.

Wtf never heard about Holmgard before. Been living in Russia all my life. Very interesting to learn, thanks a lot!

Sorbs are western slavs from Germany and the Germans still call them wendishe while they call themself serby.. So wend is probably a German word for slavs

@acfdoo830

2 ай бұрын

They are Luzitza Serbs, so Serbs not Slavs. Wends is other name for all Serbs that live there used by forigners.

@spirosvelliniatis2165

Ай бұрын

Wends truly mean Slav in German! correct (Slav) from Sloven(free, ruled without a lord -king,not slava the glorious!!!

13:39 I want to say "That looks like a child's homework". Because I bet it's some of Onfim's homework.

I had never heard of this before as a Russian Capital. I always assumed it was Novgorod prior to the establishment of the "Kievan Rus" with Kyiv as the Capital. I can understand the name and existence of it given the strength of Scandinavian influence at that time. Nice finding something new !!

Is there a link between Perun/Peryn and the Finnish curseword: Perkele?

@LancesArmorStriking

Ай бұрын

Would be very funny if true, but probably just false cognates

@Valo666

Ай бұрын

comes from perkuna, baltic god of thunder. so if perun comes from that, then ye

@spirosvelliniatis2165

Ай бұрын

Perun= P(o)r(u)n,=P(o)r(t),P(o)r(k)=f(o)r(k)=the god of piercing=thunder,Thor(n) thorn=horn etc

+1 for Morrowind soundtrack!

I would like to correct some slavic pronunciation: "o" is pronounced the same as in "corn" or "cold", not as "a", and there is a letter in the alphabet "щ" that is pronounced "shch" fully, rather than grouped together such as would be in English. Otherwise great and thorough video, thank you for composing this information!

@LancesArmorStriking

Ай бұрын

Depends. In modern Russian, о at the start of most multi-syllabic words has been shortened to а or even a -schwa. But it used to be pronounced fully, so maybe it makes sense when quoting directly. For the purpose of describing it though, whichever sounds best in English is the best to use. Flows better

There is a Lubshan fortress in Ladoga with very interesting artifacts. Unfortunately, some things are looted by dark archaeologists and sold on ebay

another linguistic link between novogorod and western slavs is the often disputed naming of the "ilmen slovenes" slovenes also being the name of the slavs who have settled in modern day slovenia, and slovenia often being bearing closer similarities to western slavs than the southern slavs.

@darkobozic6831

2 күн бұрын

Yes, aexactly.

bro, make a video about the Swedenborgian faith of Rurikid dynasty. (Wiki is silent on the matter.) Also, Alexander I (Holy Alliance) was murdered because he wanted to reinstall this sacred gamer doctrine, and move the capital to Holmgard (Sweden), but proto-communists did janny option to him. Each of us shall know the truth.

@kirillholt2329

5 күн бұрын

"did janny option" lmao checked.

@blyysm

5 күн бұрын

@@kirillholt2329 can't beat them become them you know what I mean

@verafaith5961

20 сағат бұрын

proto-communists?...... 😳🧐

@Rusyn420

2 сағат бұрын

Do you have any reading material you can suggest? @blyysm

Ilmen is a Balto-Finnic word and the oldest Balto-Finnic scriptures were found there and ancient Karelians constituted an important part of the population, but of course, no mention of them here.

@erkkinho

2 ай бұрын

Even today the lake is called Ilmajärvi in Finnish. We have, for example, a river called Ilmajoki.

@emrecanarduc4378

2 ай бұрын

ilmen is also a turkic word hmm i wonder if it is even more ancient word@@erkkinhowhat does Il mean ?

@emrecanarduc4378

2 ай бұрын

ilmen means Land Man or in better words it means citizen , il means homeland in Turkic@@erkkinho

@erkkinho

2 ай бұрын

@@emrecanarduc4378 Ilma means air in Finnish and is common in place names. No way the name is Turkic.

@karilang9377

2 ай бұрын

Finnic were living there first. Give it back to us.

At 8:20 that word 'urr' also sounds similar to the Hungarian word for power 'erő'. I'm guessing that's the one that's supposed to be the same word so it's interesting why it would be similar. (oh and 'úr' also means man) I notice these similarities with all sorts of languages allegedly completely unrelated.

The background music makes it feel like I'm playing Morowind......

@alistairgilessmith9877

Ай бұрын

time to break out my xbox....😅

❤

This is one of the best videos I've seen on YT, fascinating, well researched and delivered with aplomb - thank you! One thing that occurs to me, given the apparent scarcity of early Norse religious items, is that it could well be that "Norse" culture was seen as fashionable or appealing in some way, and so copied. Just because you have Norse artefacts doesn't mean you have many Norse. This would mirror a debate in the UK over the extent of Anglo-Saxon migration in the C5 & 6. Could I offer one small pronunciation correction to your otherwise excellent English? The word 'comb' is pronounced " kəʊm " or 'kohm'. The 'b' is not pronounced but the 'm' is extended in length - a bit like 'mm' for expressing agreement or consideration. The pronunciation you used was like the word 'combe', which is Brythonic word for a valley, especially one near the sea.

@branni6538

Ай бұрын

Or they came from elsewhere or were killed off via war or disease. Only rusty metal would be found via a metal detector. All else buried under meters of earth. Lost to time.

Could the pendant have been Queen Olga or did she come after that period?

@Wojewoda.

20 сағат бұрын

After. She was the wife of the son of Rjurik

Fascinating!

Gorodische is more like a colloquialism for 'big clumsy city' or 'giant city', perhaps 'important significant city', but not old city. Perhaps it is now being interpreted as meaning old, because it was in fact the original, well established city, while Novgorod was the newer one, which is literally what its name means.

@Truffle_Young_Jr

2 ай бұрын

Gorodische is "old city" just like kostrische is "old fire place"

@Felix1971Mig

2 ай бұрын

@@Truffle_Young_Jr и пожарище. Сгоревшее что-либо. Здание, лес и т.п.

@Truffle_Young_Jr

2 ай бұрын

@@Felix1971Mig остатки давнего пожара

@comment6864

2 ай бұрын

@@Felix1971Mig пожарище это большой пожар, также как зрелище это большое или чудовищное представление

@comment6864

2 ай бұрын

@@Felix1971Mig Сгоревшее что-то это пепелище

11:30 IIRC the Angles were a tribe from Jutland. Some of them migrated to Britain along with Saxons and Jutes.

@kimrizo1938

2 ай бұрын

Angles did not live in Denmark, no evidences!

@AnthonyEvelyn

2 ай бұрын

​@@kimrizo1938 They came from Angeln in present Denmark.

@kimrizo1938

2 ай бұрын

it is a province in Denmark on the Baltic sea, not the people, just theory.Angles spoke in old Frisian@@AnthonyEvelyn

@spirosvelliniatis2165

Ай бұрын

​@@kimrizo1938angels maybe ment fishermen or they may were a clan not a tribe

In Denish From the vikings. Holmgard , Holmgaard or Holmgård. Part 1. Holm = Mening place near water. Part 2. Gard Means Farm. Farm near water. With time could evolve into a town and be used for last name/ sure / family name for a person. In Denmark right now we have 1368 people with the sure name Holmgaard. And 65 people with Holmgård :-)

I find cunning the name made of both slavic Holm (hill) and scandinavian Gard

I think that a lot of the confusion and belief that the baltic area was at this time strictly divided into ethnic areas is a heritage of national romantic nonsense. just like what we today call sweden had areas that was settled by slavic people early on (vendel culture/Wends) so did slavic areas. To some extent i think the cultures both being indo-european with a similar pantheon of gods and similar core components and heritage was easily adopted or assimilated into. I mean just look at the linguistic confusion of the name with Holm gard/gorod, even the language still had similarities that are hard for us today to judge how easy the slavs and the norse inter-communicated. It is also very interesting that the vendel culture main area is smack in area with the most "slavic" N1c DNA. So what came first, the hen or the egg?

@comment6864

2 ай бұрын

No confusion what so ever, the swedish thing is made up in the video. The word that should be used is 'grad' (same meaning as 'gorod'). 'gard' is a purely germanic (and i guess swedish) suffix that has absolutely no relevance to these Russian cities.

To Holmgard and beyond

@viktord2025

2 ай бұрын

That's where the winds will us guide!

@comment6864

2 ай бұрын

@@AustinWK-iv2jb HUH?? Are you ok??

I aways thought that Ladoga was the original Russian site. Both, the town and the river.

Novgorod was built upon a previous settlement known as Gorodishche and was ruled by Ilmen Slovenes. After the unification with Varangian Slavs or Vagrians (according to Adam von Bremen) from current area of Poland and Germany, who ruled over the city of Stargard or "Old City" (Gard meant "City"; surrounded area, like Garden... with "fences"), they moved their capital city to Gradishche and was called New City or Novgard or Novgorod. This is why Varangians or Vagrians were never Vikings, who were simply Jarl tribes. If some "runes" were found on current area of Russia it does not mean they were of "viking" (old swedish) origin. Actually this script known as "runes" at least 10 000 - 20 000 years older... even Turks were using it, not only Slavs. You can even find traces of them in old Vinca script, Kamyana Mohila (Ukraine), Africa, even pre Columbian America... I have successfully translated many inscriptions from Ladoga area into Slavic and nobody even tried to touch those inscriptions or translate them into any similar to Slavic...If we leave the "Slavic", "Germanic" nationalisms behind... rulers were generally intermarrying among different noble, rich families, for them there did not exist important claims as "slavic, germanic"... for them existed rather "from this or that noble family"... There remained more than 500 slavic or "wendic" words in current Swedish language and no other way around in current Russian. Period. And Rus simply means Rusast (try to translate this word through slovenian ) which means "red".

13:31 Could the opposite be truth? Could've Waldemar came from Vladimir?

@user-tc9sk4ei9y

2 ай бұрын

That's exactly what's happened

@user-go6qw5ug5w

Ай бұрын

Слово Владимир состоит из изначальных русских слов - володеть-владеть и мир. Владимир значит Владеющий миром. Как и имя Ярослав. Яр-значит ярило- солнце, слав-значит славить - восхвалять. Ярослав значит - славяший солнце. Мы поклонялись Солнцу и оно было нашим Богом

@spirosvelliniatis2165

Ай бұрын

​@@user-go6qw5ug5wYaroslav can be translated also as earl of the Slavs!

Holme might be islet rather than island. At least in modern usage.

@meikala2114

2 ай бұрын

a holme, technically, is an island in a river or lake

@kimrizo1938

2 ай бұрын

it was just a translation of Westslavic name Ostrovogard for that settlement There were also normans who came with Varangs-Rus with Ruric and his brothers to Ilmen region from Pomerania. Later they went to Kiev and served Russian kings as guards. Norwegian genes were found around Kiev City. @@meikala2114

@martinan22

2 ай бұрын

@@meikala2114 I know many islets in the Baltic that are named xxx-holmen.

@comment6864

2 ай бұрын

Holm in Russian means hill, not island. Island is ostrov

@martinan22

2 ай бұрын

@@comment6864 That is interesting. Do you know the etymology? Imho, Holmgård appears in Scandinavian sources and the name comes from when there was still Scandinavian influence on the old Rus. So it is worthwhile to examine holm in old norse as an origin of the name.

Holmgard means city on the heal - Holm - холм is heal. Gard -Gorod -город - settlement or city Novgorod - Noviy Gorod (Новый город) - New City , new town.

Helmgrad :)

Always interesting to learn more of the connections of West and East in history. I find Varagnian history underrated compared to the viking history in the West. That said I need to read more of the Vikings, these vids are good primers. Medieval Russian areas are also an interesting mystery. As far as I am aware the Novgorod would become a much more western town with ties to Hanseatic League and all whereas Muscovy was almost converted to Islam after the centuries since the Viking Age. There are divides in culture still seen today and it is about the way of thinking. The Russian system is still largely clan based, not fully individualistic, and based on custom more than actual law. The system is more medieval in a sense, but of course progress is a matter of perspective. What is sad that the modern nationalistic keyboard warriors tie their identity to ancient history so discussion of these matters tends to be sometimes very silly online. Anyway great stuff. Cheers!

@giantdad9013

2 ай бұрын

You are wrong about Islamization under the control of the horde. attempts of this kind, after the Mongols adopted Islam, were made only by small fry, who were quickly exterminated, in many ways this was done by the people of the khan himself, because, despite all the horrors that the nomads brought to these lands, they treated the religions of the subordinate peoples quite well, without collecting taxes from churches at all. As for some clan systems in modern Russia, this sounds like outright nonsense

@HeathenRidesdragons

2 ай бұрын

Varangians are vikings from varanger Norway as in varanger garden, people from there are still called væringer today the rus viking's are the Varangians

I hear morrowind

@maxvandijk2001

Ай бұрын

Ikr I cried a little so many memories

Gostomysl the ruler before rurik has a wendish name, my speculation is that wends were invited by the Slavs to help their faction take over the Ladoga area, the Finnic peoples invited the Scandinavians to drive out the Slavs

@koalabear1984

29 күн бұрын

Wends and slavs are one and the same though?

@theMOCmaster

29 күн бұрын

@@koalabear1984 Wends were a tribe of Slavs that lived in what is now northeastern Germany, the Slavic tribes living around Lake Ilmen called themselves Slovenes (called Ilmen Slavs to distinguish them from the modern nationality) or Krivichs

I aways thought that Ladoga was the original Russian site. Both, the town and the river. Also, "Holmgrad" would be more interesting and closer to Russian name. Literally means town on a hill. Just a thought.

“Holmgard” could be a mistransliteration of “holmgrad” which means in the Slav languages “city of hills”

@comment6864

2 ай бұрын

THANK YOU!! 😄

@milolekic

2 ай бұрын

It means hillcity

@egorkor9766

2 күн бұрын

​@@milolekic Hillburg 🙃

@milolekic

2 күн бұрын

@@egorkor9766 there is Hillsborough in England

Hi everybody from Russia 👋👋

"May you not lack man's power" - a powerful invocation for the workplace 😂

Очень интересный канал. Жаль, что некоторые дезинформированные люди распространяют здесь некорректную информацию в комментариях. Для всех интересующихся, посмотрите документальные фильмы "Рюриковичи", "Романовы".

It would’ve been better to write Capital of the Rus. As the Rus doesn’t equal modern Russia, the same way as the Frankish kingdom doesn’t equal modern France

I don't think it was a capital of Russia. Maybe one Rus state but that wasn't a single country

@chtabarddumultien6075

2 ай бұрын

Rus = Russia. And that the state called the Russian Federation, the Russian Socialist Soviet Republic or the Russian Empire claims to represent this nation doesn’t change anything.

@karilang9377

2 ай бұрын

1481 there was a Muscovite invasion to Reval

watch out for draugr

@balticempire7244

2 ай бұрын

never shöuld have cöme here

Great movie, söta bror. I once asked a Syrian painter I worked with how he would say 'french' - the answer was 'varangi' - so I think there might be some compounded meanings to the expression 'varangian' - it could be how the bysantines said 'franks'..

@magnusnilsson9792

Ай бұрын

or it just means foreigner.

Fun fact, if the actual Predecessor of modern Russia did not genocide and destroy Novgorod. There would have been at the very least a 4th East Slavic language. Their language differed quite a bit from the rest of the Eastern Slavic tribes.

@giantdad9013

2 ай бұрын

Ivan the Terrible literally massacred the rebellious proteges of Moscow left by his grandfather. But regarding the appearance of a different language - this is true, but history went differently and what we call *modern* Russian has the influence of the Novgorod dialect of ancient Russian

@giantdad9013

2 ай бұрын

Yes, and there is a 4th East Slavic language. It is called Rusyn, it’s just that Ukrainian propaganda denies the existence of this people, writing *Rusyns* in its self-name

@comment6864

2 ай бұрын

@@giantdad9013 Right, rusyns are definite NOT Ukrainian, not Russian, they're a separate ethnicity, but i don't think they're a large population (i might be wrong there)

@alekshukhevych2644

2 ай бұрын

@@giantdad9013 Muscovites massacred the Novgorodians, committing genocide against their independent neighbor. As is a Russian tradition as we all know. They also deported many of the surviving elite and much of the population to other areas, which is also customary. I agree about Rusyn, it is indeed a separate language. Ukrainian government is wrong for classifying it as a dialect just because Ukrainian used to be called Ruthenian/Rusyn as well.

@giantdad9013

2 ай бұрын

@@alekshukhevych2644 Your problem is that you look at the events of the past through the eyes of a modern man in the street. At that time, for the sake of centralizing power, all European monarchs did similar things (Read at least about the Night of St. Bartholomew). And, again, based on your logic, *Muscovites slaughtered Muscovites*, but no one touched ordinary Novgorodians, the city was not destroyed, what can we say about the rest of the settlements of the vast northern Rus', they were not touched at all, otherwise you and I would not be here now communicated, since I am from the blood of Novgorod, whose ancestors are from the Ilmen Slovenes and are known by name until the 15th century. And under Ivan the Terrible, namely under him, that same “massacre” happened, because of which “like” the whole city was gone, there was no need to talk about the independence of the Novgorod land

Slavic brothers, dont let your enemies to teach you about your history.

@thrwwccnt5845

Ай бұрын

slavic brothers (Poles and Ruthenians/Ukrainians) are uniting against moskals

@scpgaming-452

Ай бұрын

@@thrwwccnt5845 ukraine ? little russian ? WTF 😅😂🤣

@thrwwccnt5845

Ай бұрын

@@scpgaming-452 moskal detected

@Havardr_Ash_Kenaz

12 күн бұрын

In other words he means that slavs should only get their information from Russian state propaganda networks. 🤣

@donrumata2274

21 сағат бұрын

@@thrwwccnt5845 You are not a Slav. You are a slave of the Germanic peoples (Anglo-Saxons, Franks, Normans, Germans and others).

Sound like Хьлм град. Хьлм is old name for Balkan. And it means hill.

Never heard of it.

Откуда взяли появление славян в начале 9-го века? Очень грубая ошибка. Даже с учетом всех дискуссий о том кем были созданы длинные курганы: кривичами, балтами, смешанным населением. Слишком многославянских артефактов с начала 8-го века как минимум. Любшанская крепость, сожжение в 760-х годах скандинавской Ладоги и т.д. Любые источники интернета в том числе википедии со ссылками на советских археологов в помощь.

Reminds me of the white bunny from Monty Python. Liam knows...

Before I watch- I always thought Holmgard was basically proto-Novograd, and that it was basically the primary norse settlement in the area that they used to raid/conquer the area until the founding of the Kievan Rus.

@romankuchevskiy250

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think so Kyiv is much older than any of Scandinavia villages 🤷‍♂️

@romankuchevskiy250

2 ай бұрын

When they travel to Kyiv they sad I’m going to Rus🤔

@WelcomeToDERPLAND

2 ай бұрын

@@romankuchevskiy250 Perhaps But the Vikings of the Norse definitely conquered and subjugated Kyiv and were the founders of the Kievan Rus which was a Viking state- and perhaps the Slavic Faiths eventually assimilated any of the Scandinavian's- but it probably wasn't too hard of a transition.

@romankuchevskiy250

2 ай бұрын

@@WelcomeToDERPLAND no they never did they serve them as mercs 😉 Rus was empire then and Vikings are more like pirates back then 🤷‍♂️ mercenaries maybe but not conquer 😊

@romankuchevskiy250

2 ай бұрын

@@WelcomeToDERPLAND Vikings going down the dnipro river to get to Constantinople to be mercs for Greek -Rome empire 🤷‍♂️and Rus and chazaria control Silk Road to china and Arabia

Unfortunately there's a lot of comments from Ukrainians here who's view on history been heavily politicised and edited, and therefore the knowledge is patchy at best of times.

@lostpony4885

2 ай бұрын

Oh?

@garrgravarr

Ай бұрын

I read through all the comments and have no idea what you're vaguely gesturing at

@LongShadong

Ай бұрын

Lol

@LancesArmorStriking

Ай бұрын

​@@garrgravarr Just the pinned one. Maybe some farther down. He is just exaggerating. If you want to find bots from both sides, political analysis channels are full of them

@kindlingking

9 күн бұрын

Patchy? They straight up contradict themselves and eachother, why claiming to present "the true history". Just a huge inferiority complex made worse by 30 years of slow decay and depression.

Warangens was not a Viking or Scandinavians because they pray to perun or swarog 🤷‍♂️warga in old Slavic means sword 😉

@chtabarddumultien6075

2 ай бұрын

He did wholes video addressing this, you should watch them.

@cruise_missile8387

2 ай бұрын

Let's be real, the old Scandinavian and old Slavic Gods were really pretty much the same. It's like the difference between the Justice League and Guardians of the Globe.

The capital of ancient Russia? Did you know that ancestors of russians weren't united and lived in independed from each other tribes

Holm holme means a tiny island can also be a floating island in a lake gard means both farm ranch and homestead but when using the word today people mean farm most often in Norwegian the rus viking's from varanger in Norway named varanger garden and also called væring væringer even people today from that area of Norway is called væringer they are the same people as the varangian guard who defended the Roman empire until the Romans tried to expand into the Nordic lands of Norway and Sweden which turned them against the Romans and brought down most of the Roman empire, Ruriks farher was from varanger and he's mother was daughter of a swedish Earl or jarl as nordics say.the Norwegian rus viking's which the slavics mainly calls Varangians because the rus viking's was Varangians because they were from varanger.they established kievarus more than thousand years ago,i think it was around 800 i don't remember because this is fifth grade history in Norwegian history in Norwegian children schools maybe fourt grade and we don't emphasize much history before year 800 .

@Giamesh

2 ай бұрын

Væring in Norwegian is not connected to one single place in Norway. There are many places along the coastline where the inhabitants are called væring. It simply means a place along a fjord where fishermen (or people ) lives. When the norse traveled inland along the rivers eastwards, they could easily had refereed themselves as people from the coast: Væringer. And this would then became the word that the people already living there used for them

Novgorod never capital of Russia. Russia had 3 capitals - Kyiv, Chernigov and Pereyaslav. In IX centuary Novgorod wasn't established. Archeology dates foundation of Novgorod Ilmenskiy by second half of X century.

@anotherelvis

2 ай бұрын

Norse finds at Sarskoye Gorodishche/Holmgaard date back to around 800AD. According to the sagas Rurik arrived in 860. But I agree that this place was not the capital of the Kievan Rus (which again is not the same as Russia)

@leotka

2 ай бұрын

@@anotherelvis There is no sagas about arrival Ryurik to Novgorod. This is a lie. In Scandinavian sagas no Igor the Old, no Svyatoslav and no Volodymir. Only Great Prince Yaroslav mentioned. In first Moscow chronicle of Lyzlov (1701) wasn't mentioned Primary Chronicles that were 'discovered' during Katrin II reign. She created a special commission for studies of Moscow history and members of this commission 'discovered' new sources. By the way there is no any original. All originals were 'lost' during fires. Rus attacks of Constantinopol and Iran were well documented centuries before alleged 'arrival' of Ryurik. In record of Mitropolit Illarion (XI century) written that father of Yaroslav was Volodymir, and his father was Svyatoslav, and his father was Igor the Elder. Ryurik wasn't mentioned as father of Igor. Rus didn't use Scandinavian Gods, they used Iranian Pantheon of Gods. Name of king dynasties were Slavic, and children of Igor, Svyatoskav, Volodymir and Yaroslav wasn't named Ryurik. How it is possible? Yaroslav grandson was named Ryurik in XII century, 300 years after alleged arrival Ryurik.

@SkyeSage17

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for that introspection. I innerstand. 🌬️💙🌀

@AaSs-ln9mm

2 ай бұрын

What do you know about Vladimir-on-Klyazma?

@leotka

2 ай бұрын

@@AaSs-ln9mm This city up to XIX century was called Volodymir Zalesskiy. Was established by Prince Kitai aka Andrei Bogolubskiy as spiritual center of Northern territories. This Prince asked Konstantinopol Patriarkh about creation of new Orthodox metropoly in Volodymir-Zakesskiy but he failed. This duke/knyaz established this city because wanted full authority not restricted by local parliament- veche. Capital this Principality city Suzhdal had strong opposition - local veche and this was main reason to transfer own court to new city.

“Ancient Russia”. What’s next, ancient USA? 😂

@Seft2_

2 ай бұрын

Braindamaged?

@__Alex_

2 ай бұрын

@@Seft2_ Yeah, I know you are. But why would you mention that?

@Seft2_

2 ай бұрын

@@__Alex_ further proving my point kiddo

@__Alex_

2 ай бұрын

@@Seft2_ You do know that I can see your cringeworthy brainrot videos, right? I’m not sure if you really have the authority to call me a “kiddo”

@eazykillax2468

2 ай бұрын

yes, Russia has ~1200 year history, live with it kid

Gorodishe - gradiste (serbian) from graditi- buld or grad - city, translates as place wher is building happening

Maybe it was the Wagrians who moved some of their tribesmen from Starogard "old town" in Wagria (currently Oldenburg) to Novogorod (newtown) with some Scandinavian friends haha. There have been a few instances of Wends and Scandinavians cooperating trade emporiums and towns before i.e. Jumne and Reric!

The Muscovites were not called Russia in old times. Ukraine was called Russia, but the Muscovites stole the name.

@puzzled012

2 ай бұрын

Rus started from Novgorod, so basically you claim Russians stole the name they first used, and wouldn't stop using, unlike "Ukrainians". 😂😂😂

@kenbristow6771

2 ай бұрын

You are as clueless as your name 😂 What a load of bull****. Where do you work, low-IQ bot - mi6, the pentagon or the budanov orc?

@nitrianskehosamospravnehok4397

2 ай бұрын

I’m confused whar

@stariyczedun

2 ай бұрын

Are you aware this video talks about period so old modern ethnonyms like "Russian" and "Ukranian" didn't even apply? When all Slavs spoke dialects of the same language, split rather into tribes with very little association to the modern ethnostates. Moscow area it still settled by baltic tribes and eastern slavs didn't make yet their big push to the north-east where later "Russians" would form. The split between Russian, Ukranian and Belarusian languages started after the Mongol invasion and took form by 1400s. Before that we can say they all spoke the same language and were the same people, call it "common eastern slavic" or smth if Rus\Ruthenian\Russian name confuses you.

@stariyczedun

2 ай бұрын

@@puzzled012 Rus were a loose confederation of eastern slavs, finnic tribes with scandinavian settlers being the elite. From the early Byzantine sources on Rus, it was more of a name for Scandinavian settler aristocracy than their Slavic subjects, as attested by Rus visitors almost all having viking names.

Holm is a widely used danish landscape word for a tiny low peninsula just above water - area of a few acers. Gard or Gård is the word for a farm or dwelling

@SMidberg

Ай бұрын

And gård ,gard, has same origin as now eng. gard meaning :shelter ,protection, and later synonymus with gård (farm). Holm , can mean sv. holme or as sl. hill. Mabye it an integration from people liveframträdanden there.

@orekhovnikolay675

Ай бұрын

In russian, "holm" (холм) means hill, "Gorod" (город) - city or town, "ogorod" (огород) - fenced territory for farm and literally means something was dedicated and separated from other territory.

One of the coolest sounding place names in world history. Top 5 easy

The Old Ladoga remembers