You should each design ideal Christmas box. (same price, roughly same box discount and put in what you each would want from such box)

@Jack-wy4cg

7 ай бұрын

Found the GW employee.

@petervansan1054

7 ай бұрын

@@Jack-wy4cg good, maybe they could redesign battle sisters to include multimelta

@johnny_turk9983

7 ай бұрын

i second this. i'd like to hear their views on their own Christmas box and what you want in it.

@amycox7508

7 ай бұрын

That’s a great video idea

@vojtadrasner2440

7 ай бұрын

@@Jack-wy4cg nope, I just like this type of their videos

Christmas boxes should be a LOT of weird stuff, different types of units AND one centerpiece type model/unit. I dont wanna have 15 minis for christmas, I want a lot of stuff to do for like 2 months

@gregsmw

7 ай бұрын

honestly, any discout box thats a spam of 1 unit is bad imo i would VASTLY prefer 4 different units, over 3 of the same with 1 extra, no matter what they are

@ohgodno2733

7 ай бұрын

@@gregsmwnow while I do agree I have to say the guard box should get a pass sense 20 guys and 2 Rogal dorns for less than 300 buck in freedom is good and if you get the combat patrol(or cadia stands sense now on places like Amazon it’s cheaper) you now got around 885 points for only 340 freedom papers of units you want to run with only one dupe and the field ordnance batterie which you probably don’t want to

@gabemamede5793

6 ай бұрын

Trust me you definitely don't want that, we've had those types of boxes before and they are a god aweful entry point to the hobby. In the past it would be stuffed with unplayable garbage that no one would ever buy

@mastodonseven

6 ай бұрын

​@gabemamede5793 Depends if you are coming at it from the perspective of painter vs a player

I don't think our hosts understand Guard. 60 infantry isn't the max you'd want in an army, it's the minimum for a balanced force. And command squads are great for building stand ins for our absurdly overpriced characters, so having a few extra is great. 2 combat patrols and this holiday box is a very good start to an IG army.

@legodragon1999

7 ай бұрын

What do you typically run for IG lists? I hear a lot of comments from Poorhammer being frustrated by the focus on Cadian infantry, as opposed to Krieg.

@mouthwide0pen

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, 60 sounds like a lot until you remember that it's 120 points for 20 Cadians. 20 Cadians are the equivalent to 10 Necron Warriors, 10 Eldar Storm Guardians (and their lil artillery thing ig), 5 Khorne Zerkers, etc. Like they even acknowledge with other hordey infantry (nid gaunts) that you're probably running 60 of them if you're trying to use gaunts in a balanced list, but they seem to treat Guard as if people only play it with 90% tanks. I get not knowing armies well, but cmon, you treated Nids right and they use battleline the same way! Hell, 60 hormagaunts is still less reasonable than 60 cadians, bc unless you're doing a swarm oriented list, or just fucking love hormagaunts, you'll still probably have a mix of termagants and hormagaunts, whereas Guards basic infantry aren't mechanically all that different. Nobody has any reason to run Cadians and Krieg in the same list aside from thinking that they both look cool.

@MaelMoroni

7 ай бұрын

@@legodragon1999 Ironically you should never ever run Cadians, every other infantry has better abilities and weapons

@Hello-bp8dx

7 ай бұрын

@@legodragon1999​​⁠​⁠not OP but I am a guard main. The number can honestly depend on what kind of list you’re running, but as another commenter said 20 of our guys is roughly the same strength of the standard squad of almost every other army. Basically, in you’re running a regular old combined arms type list, you’re looking at around 100-120 bodies. For a tank focused list, about 60-80; for an artillery list, 80-100. And of course infantry focused lists will go even higher. It’s even possible to do a pure infantry list and get about 360 models on the board (and it’s strangely viable, too). PS: Kreigers and Cadians actually have separate datasheets. The basic gist is that cadians take objectives better while kreigers are more tanky.

@Nobody-zl3kk

7 ай бұрын

Hosts are dead set on guard being the "Only tanks" army and ignore the existence of troops on a frequent basis, according to Brad and Erick the only way to play guard is 80 Leeman Russes and like one squad of infantry to sit on the back objective, why? simple, they don't like horde armies (unless you are nids ig) and Horde guard players find it annoying (Hell, I aint even a guard player and I find it annoying)

What ive slowly learned from these past few videos is the Poorhammer patreon is basically paying to work for Brad and his crazy episode ideas 😂

@theotv5522

4 ай бұрын

What else did you expect from a Thousand Son chaos marine?

60 guardsman is like, 40% of the way to “never need guardsman again”

@tomtheconqerur

5 ай бұрын

So 150 guardsmen in total?

@desertwynd30

5 ай бұрын

​@@tomtheconqerura fine start

@RockyX123

2 ай бұрын

All infantry guard! 6 * 20 man Cadians - 120 (720 points), 6 * 20 man Infantry - 120 (720 points), 5 * 20 man Catachans - 100 (550 points) totaling 340 infantry! Might need to remove half a squad for an HQ but 60 guardsman isn't even close to enough!

As a Raven Guard player I love that we got our own box! I just saw it walking by my local game store one day and was surprised when I saw that because GW kinda forgets about us! And it’s everything a Raven Guard player could want. Except Reivers. I can’t help them there.

@TheTopo8798

7 ай бұрын

It was previous year box but, yeah, I liked that there were boxes for less popular legions instead of DA, SW and BA

@BrandonL337

7 ай бұрын

I've honestly been eyeing that box for a raptors side project, and just harvest the reivers for bits

@iharpo9292

7 ай бұрын

The reivers could be given the bolt carbines and just run as incursors or smthn

"The Voh-taaaahn~" is so very melodious. Edit: Also, you understandably forgot the lift suited guys with the heavy weapons, one of the coolest but under represented units in the range.

"If you have an aunt or an uncle who's buying 200 US dollars worth of stuff, hook me up with that aunt or uncle." I totally wasn't thinking adopted aunt, I was thinking Brad wanted a new sugar mamma/daddy on the side for his GW fix.

What I got out of this video: there's a magical store that sells $85 Angrons..... now to find it 😂

@elevenone

7 ай бұрын

I managed to pick up a Skarbrand recently for $90. Deals are out there, just gotta be patient and keep your eyes open 👍

@demon1103

7 ай бұрын

Crazy thing is...almost. In UK after the 20% off they get there(because they get lowest base price as well as the best standard discount for 3rd party stores), Angron comes out to £80, which equates to $100 USD.

@tuurderom2017

7 ай бұрын

@@demon1103they don’t get of, you guys just get scammed

@bigbrexitdad879

7 ай бұрын

@@demon1103 can confirm got angron for like £84 plus a few quid off with my loyalty points. Recently got a questoris NIB for £55 too off FB marketplace they MSRP at £105 and on 3rd party stores go for about £80-90

I feel that “perfect starter box was 6 months ago”. I’m trying to get into the hobby with Salamanders and the battleforce is 1.5xmsrp

@DJ_Birdman

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. Cause the Salamanders Strikeforce box gave you. Adrax, 3 Aggressors, 3 Eradicators, and I believe 20 Intercessors along with Salamander Primaris frames. Which is an amazing starting point for someone wanting to play Salamanders. Or even just getting some decent units for marines.

We need a dream faction box video, I'd love to see what you guys would pick for fairly balanced starter boxes, you guys could even pull a GW and try and fit in a kit that doesn't sell well for each faction

The Tyranid Box is a bit of savings, but I think the real reason it sold out so fast is because Norns have been out of stock since release. I personally do not need another flying hive tyrant to take up an entire case, so I can wait till the fabled day when I find a norn at my flgs.

The only Christmas box I regret missing out on was the Knights box last year. I really want to make a Chaos Knight army and that would have been great but of course I was a dummy and saying “nope not going to start a new army” back then. I’m pretty sure I’ll never see a thousand sons box set that’s worth it because I already have the major centerpiece.

@iharpo9292

7 ай бұрын

Honestly i felt similar about the nids box this year. I kinda wish it didnt have the hive tyrant because theres so many hive tyrants floating around on ebay and stuff. Its been in like, every value box for nids for years

The problem with the guard box is the “value” is in the free guardsmen, but I don’t know any guard player that needs more guardsmen. We all have tons already and tons unpainted because we get them in every box we buy. For a starting player I think they’re great (except you’ll quickly have too many command squads).

@LollipopKnight2

7 ай бұрын

As a starting Guard player, that's pretty much my opinion. I do have too many Command Squads, using this and a couple of the Combat Patrols (and I arguably have too many Dorns, since I picked one up before the Christmas boxes got revealed), but at least they add meaningful durability to a squad through their medic's Feel No Pain, and help get Orders all over the board, even after casualties. But I am expecting to enjoy not having more Guardsmen to paint, and doing it purely for art reasons. Still, I plan to pick up another couple of Shock Troops boxes, to kitbash some Catachan-equivalent squads together. My first planned list is going to have 80 dudes, and some Scions.

@theverlorenguardsman

7 ай бұрын

Despite collecting guard for a few years now, I actually don't mind the extra command squads flying around. They're not terrible to kitbash into other things. I've done psykers, Regimental advisors, commissars, and some book characters for my tanith.

@DragonuFear

7 ай бұрын

The problem is infantry squads are silly expensive, and value boxes are often aimed towards players starting armies over veterans. Without the old 15 dollar box of 5 cadians you really need infantry in the value boxes to cut the cost of a guard army down.

@iharpo9292

7 ай бұрын

​@@DragonuFearikr i love how gw wants to sell you stuff and price it based off of how much of an army it takes up, unless thatd take the price below like 60 or 50 bucks. Outriders being 60 is ridiculous for literally 1 and a half sprues

@0ohmit0

7 ай бұрын

I have 120 guardsmen and I still don't have enough. I welcome the sea of infantry. Might of been nice to had it as 2 squads of kriegsmen though

Here's hoping next year we'll have a Emperor's Children xmas box with Fulgrim and a bunch of noise marines

@scerpalman

7 ай бұрын

I may well be wrong, but I think the Daemon Fulgrim release for the Horus Heresy all but confirms that we won't be getting a 40k update to Fulgrim or Emperor's Children for a long, long time.

@wailmerpail

7 ай бұрын

​@@scerpalman40k emporer children is alr confirmed in the works its almost guaranteed to drop in a year or two

@mizter5597

7 ай бұрын

​@scerpalman my wallet hopes so, my brain weeps if true

@Skykid3307

24 күн бұрын

Well, there's now an Emperor's Children Index. It's trash, but it most likely means that either the end of this year or sometimes next year, we'll get a proper release for them.

My wife got the Votann box, and I got the Tyranid one. Need those Nids for Horde mode, and also the Emissary is just cool. My wife was kinda falling out of love with the hobby until we played Horde mode, and now she's looking to pick up the Combat Patrol too so she has the whole army like you said lol I tried to get her to get the Ork one because I love Squigs, but she plays Ork vehicles and already has a Kill Rig, so it didn't really interest her. I could have picked it up for myself I guess, but I wanted the Nid box more and money is expensive "It hurts when I get up." You didn't have to come for me like this Brad, you didn't have to go for the throat

41:00 I love these episodes. They are a good way to figure out the current state of 40k prices.

Video Idea. Create you ideal Combat Patrol or Christmas Box for every Army. That would be interesting

@bloodhazard67

7 ай бұрын

I would watch that. It sounds fun.

@CatCraine

7 ай бұрын

Honestly a great idea. As a Space Marine player, I actually enjoyed the thematic boxes that were based around a single chapter.

The Sylvaneth box from last year was killer. If you built it for max points, it was like 1300 and all useful units. For another $200 or so, you could make a legitimately solid starting army.

@BoldAndSpicy

7 ай бұрын

And no one seems to have wanted it, much to my benefit. I was able to pick it up for $130!

@cthulhubecausewhynot1182

7 ай бұрын

The Ossiarch Box this year is absolutely bonkers value. Morghasts are a pain in the ass to find in the US, you get a LK, and you get more of your anchor units (Mortek+Nanny and Kavalos). It’s very solid and the Harvester is pretty fun to paint.

@cactus_judy3929

7 ай бұрын

The nighthaunt box was as well. Really good value units wise and a solid spread of battleline depending on army build

It hurts to look at American prices for Warhammer. Like a Kill Rig here costs around £70 and Outriders cost around £30

@shadowmetroid18

7 ай бұрын

It's because the exchange rate was decided in the 90s when the pound was strong.

@nebulonian1385

7 ай бұрын

Australians have just brutal prices, exchange rate's about 2 AUD to 1 GBP, but they pay a 3 to 1 rate. 224 for a Kill Rig and 98 for Outriders. Interesting to contrast them with Japan, which has a similar exchange rate (after the yen are cents math) but much lower prices, 18700 for a Rig and 8300 for Outriders. I get that their pricing models are from a bygone time, and they like to talk about how much it costs to ship things out there, but I can't imagine trying to partake in this hobby at GW prices over there.

@charmingdruid9

7 ай бұрын

@@shadowmetroid18that’s just gw terrible argument for more profit lets be real

@-Seek-17

7 ай бұрын

Mate over here in Norway it's 90$

@iharpo9292

7 ай бұрын

​@@nebulonian1385gw shifting the costs to the consumer is pretty dogshit when they likely ship in large bulk quantities. Espescially making it a difference of 10-40 dollars or more

You guys should compare start collecting/combat patrols over the years. And the old school battleforce boxes. But yeah that SM box is so transparently dangling 15 of the new shiny assault guys in front of you so they can get rid of the atvs and bikes.

We should buy these for our friends as great christmas presents right?

@spacechannelfiver

7 ай бұрын

If they were still made of pewter you could put them in their shoes like a cat with lego.

@UrbanArmada

7 ай бұрын

Give them money so they can buy their own stuff.

@MrLFJ7

7 ай бұрын

lol

Only the World Eaters and Tyranid boxes are sold out in Australia

That ending remarks of the "go back in time 6 moths to get your aemy box" is some thing some one actually told me when i was contemplating votann but instead of 6 months it was like a year

as always these guys are my north star in the wonderful word of poorhammer and in saving our hard earned imperial credits

As a Guard player, I have wanted at least 1 Rogal Dorn tank since they released, but could never get my hands on one. As soon as I saw this had 2 Dorns, I grabbed at it because I already have a nearly full Guard army

Remember the cadian and catachan defense force boxes? It was 2 infantry squads, a command squad, a chimera, a leman russ, and a heavy weapon squad.

@carna-9501

4 ай бұрын

Pepperidge farms remembers

I ordered two of the Orks boxes because every single bit can take two variants of it if it's not an infantry kit and it gets you so many options. I'm stacking it on with my CP and the Boarding Patrol.

I am looking forward to my squig box. I really want a 2K army of squig orks. Not big into the rest of the ork line. Definitely tempted to buy 2 if my local game store has a second copy.

I found the Kill dakka war band discounted at my lgs one day. Long story short, I'm now at 5000 plus points of orks

@Quaaludio

7 ай бұрын

exact same story for me

In defense of your statement on the guard box: as a guard player myself 40 infantry from this box and the combat patrol alone is not enough. Most guard players run a minimum 60 and an average of 80-90. If you’re going heavy into infantry that number goes well over 100. If there is anything certain with guard, you can never not use another 10 or 20 infantry here or there.

I bought Bastion Strike Force recently because I am building imperial fists based army. It fills all my Gravis-clad desires and I get aggressors which are strong now. Gordon I didn't own so was a good pickup for me.

The price hike is more drastic in canada where I think they went from like 220 to 280. Combined with our taxes (which can be up to 13%) this is quite a huge jump for the average collector.

Loved EVERY Ep So far. got me hooked

The Thousand Sons box from last year was my first foray into the tabletop portion of Warhammer. Think it's kinda cool that I started and finished my first year of the hobby with Daemon Primarchs.

new to the world of 40k just ordered the orks box to start off btw thx poorhammer for y'alls help

Starting Votann, managed to get one copy of the Christmas box (would have tried for two but was also getting the Orks) from my FLGS but managed to find a Sagitaur at a discount as well which I've grabbed. Then I'm going to use the loyalty points the store offer for another Hekaton in the future. More roundabout way than getting two of the Christmas box but pretty good way of getting that sweet double up of the expensive/hard-to-find vehicles.

I'm under the impression that they roll a bunch of dice and select units off a paper depending on what the dice say after throwing in whatever they can't sell and/or are pushing.

Love the episode, great subject for a new collector.

I think the votann and ork boxes are incredible and glad I got them

my printer finished the last berserker from the box i couldnt buy, today. looks good. cost.....40 bucks for resin

I hate how great the ork box savings is because I just bought two

@timunderbakke8756

7 ай бұрын

I mean, if I played orks I’d be all over it. I just cannot let myself buy a horde army and then jump all in. I also think part of my problem is my brain only has so much capacity for 40K and I’m struggling to retain all the knowledge.

Love you boys

I literally switched from podcast to youtube just to see the hat animation and lens flare. Thanks for the content!

I’m surprised that they didn’t like the new website design. I’m comparison to the old design it’s just way easier to find everything and it’s just simpler. I like it

Just for the future, if your are stuck getting pushfit, clip a small bit of the pins they will fit better. With the outriders i broke the pins off completely, as a couple were broke in the indomitus box and made it easier to make the gap minimal. Hope this help someoen.

Hey, 2022's Admech box was great! Buy two of them and you're set for like half an army! Also the Knight Box was incredible, we shall never see it's like again...

One thing I’d like in the Cadian Defense Force is a heavy weapon team. It could be another unit or be mixed with the infantry to run them as infantry squads and platoon command squad

Not gonna lie.... I was expecting a "And they are already out of stock" after the transition to the show at 0:26. Great episode. I hope the patrons ask for an AoS episode.

@3Xero3

7 ай бұрын

Well.... half are out of stock if that counts 😅

Loving the Finhammer episodes!

Hey, Funny story from a german here the World eaters were sold out almost instantly and the Crap marines are still available 4 days later. 🤣 however i myself am happy that i got myself a set of the Tyranids (sold out after the first hour) so im gonna see if i can get my hands on a leviathan box next month so im really good off in the mix and match department (I literaly just started collecting the tyranids like half a month ago). The rest sold out also quite quickly but to me it so fucking hilarious that their "poster children" are so unwanted😆 considering the value of the box it's no surprise but still im smiling thinking about it

As a new player who is itching to break into World Eaters, this box looks absolutely delectable. Plus, Poorhammer signing off on it is just the confirmation I need to know I'm not getting screwed. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

@gumbspleengle5270

7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately its already out of stock

@Sneaker3719

7 ай бұрын

@@gumbspleengle5270 Not at my local game store, though! So I'm all set.

@3Xero3

7 ай бұрын

If I hadn't already bought Angron, I would've jumped on it right away.

Aww yeah been waiting for this. You two have become my fave 40K KZread channel.

for the guard box. as a guard player you NEED like 50-60 guard at least if you're going armoured to be competitive. if you're going arty you need way more and if you're going pure infantry you need WAY WAY more. Command Squads are useful not for having like 2 command squads but because you can get a command squad and kit bash 5 different HQs for cheap.

3:15 God I wish I could still get em that cheap. I am lucky to find outriders at under $50 now I would also say that comparing the DG/TS box to WE is very reasonable

Besides 2 squads of cultists and a myphtic blight crawler i never brought a singular box for any of my warer armies. Only big boxes most of the time with a discount. So far not bad.

I was lucky enough to get two Votann boxes and bought two combat patrols only needed to get two other things and I am now officially done buying my army :) loved this box

It's good to know thatafter spending time buying, building and painting my hormaguants, genestealers, hive tyrant that I'm going to have a fairly unique army.

19:02 Hey, that's me! It is also, quite literally, the only reason I now actually started guard, so I guess it worked

10:46 I feel a little called out there guys 🤣

Best holiday box was the Squigalanche box. The Ork box is close second

Last year was just great. Set the bar. This year falls short of but 2 boxe have an army

I bit the bullet and went for the tyranid on. It has literally all of what I need to complete my post Leviathan release set that I got. I'm actually ecstatic for. I paid way too much, but I cannot wait to have those freaking new hormagants and Genestealers...and that sexy new nornqueen

The Bastion strike force you can probably make/kitbash Tor Garradon into a generic space marine captain in gravis (?) armor with power fist fairly easily (if that is an allowed unit/model), so take that point off. Can also probably kitbash Shrike into a Jump Captain.

@Isaac-ze4fl

7 ай бұрын

Gravis Captain has either an off-hand weapon and a boltstorm gauntlet, which given the contents of the box you could do

Honestly these numbers sound about right to me. There have been a lot of huffing and puffing over the price increases, but frankly with how bad inflation is across the US and Europe I expect it. I think a lot of people don’t really realize how bad it is until they see their luxury purchases go up in price.

@Alino-

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, GW's price hikes are bad, sure, but compared to groceries they're not THAT bad. Like gahd damn I'm spending $100 a week on groceries that in the past would've just been like $50, like not even 4 years ago.

I bought the Lizardmen christmas box, it contained pretty much everything I wanted to complement the Army Set I got earlier this year.

For me it was the soulblight gravelord one vs the 2 years ago one its the exact same but instead of more chaf units you get dogs and beasts that's it its the same box

the world eaters box is also intresting becuase its SO HARD to get ANY eightbound, so i was devastated i couldnt get my hands on one

I was somewhat relieved that SIsters didn't get a box this year, though it's hard to get Sisters at a discount, I still have the last 2 Sisters Christmas boxes on my shelf (because Sisters at a discount is an auto-buy).

I am way late here but I am only now catching up with the podcast at the moment. One thing you missed when talking about the Imperial Fists and Raven Guard boxes is that they also included the upgrade sprues specific to those factions. They have limited value to players that aren't specificially in those factions, but they are still part of the monetary value. I would actually say that those Battle Force boxes for specific marine chapters are actually a good concept, as they give a bit more direction and allow for better deals for specific play styles, but I would say they could have used a bit more variety in them. As someone who started a Slamanders army this past year I was very happy with picking up their box, even though I still have 10 Intercessors on sprues that I will probably sell instead of build. Then again, they probably had the best box among them, and I got a discount at my LGS.

nice rundown

I got the Salamanders strike force off Amazon when I got into 40K, The Aggressors, Eradicators and Adrax were good and the upgrade kits were useful but the rest of the box was just 20 Intercessors. I still have 15 unpainted Intercessors

I was so angry at how fast the boxes sold out. These should be for newbies getting into the hobby and someone casually wanting to pick this up would just never get a chance. I tell people to play AoS cause it’s more newbie friendly and the models are more available/cheaper

Something i thought about during this video, what should Warhammer minis be priced at? I mean, we all know Warhammer is over priced, but by how much? Like, how much should a box of infantry be? How about a character, or vehicle/monster?

As a reminder, Ebay is a GREAT way to get a lot of miniatures. Maybe not precisely what you want each time, but I have 3000 points worth of misc black templars including 5 Dreadnoughts, 4 Rhinos, a drop pod and well over 50 marines, Helbrecht and more for 350 US.

this new thing is this time is : when you buy some of them twice (when you can) you can actually make a very nice army . The best in mind for me are Tyranids, Orks and Votaans . (got lucky enough to buy 2 ork ones and 1 tyranid... i can't think of a best deal to keep me occupied for years).

Already in Votann, cant wait to get my Christmas box. 10 more termies, one more sag and another ninja turtles truck is great success

To be fair, the Christmas boxes at least had loads of the new models in them, so they were decent even for veteran players. Most of the time they just throw in old stuff to make up the numbers, like the old guard kits, chimera, old boys kits, etc in the 2020 ones

As a World Eaters player: that is 2 Eightbound kits. Many people have difficulty finding *any* Eightbound, let alone two whole kits. Solid from that alone

Been thinking of getting into the hobby with Nids as my first army. Was debating between getting the leviathan box or the holiday box, in the end I managed to get the holiday box before they sold out, so I’m glad it’s a good box

@wailmerpail

7 ай бұрын

U can prob find the leviathan nids for cheap online from people who only want the marines still

I wasnt even able to order the one I wanted because the GW website didn’t show any of the pre orders as available until 5 hours AFTER the pre orders started.

Nothing is more funny than spiteful love like getting someone a centerpiece miniature near $200 just to piss them off

You forgot the Ultramarine Christmas box set from last year, Scions of Macragge. The best value for the last 3 years.

Yeesh, feels like it was just a month or two ago that last year's boxes were out. Deliberating over the Imperial Fist box is a memory that is still fresh in my mind (ultimately went with the arks of omen chaos box instead). Where does the time go?

if you went a few more years, there were some really good ones. I got a primaris captain, 10 intercessors, 10 reivers, 3 interceptors and a repulsor

I have very specific IG goals that may not make sense for game play. I bought the IG armegeddon box ages ago with the three Russ's. At the centre of my collection goal for IG is adding two Dorns and a Baneblade. That combo box is only valuable to me if the cost of it is less than the two Dorns.

I liked the bastion box purely because i love how tts made rogal dorn

I think it shold be pointed out that the Cadian Defense Force is a better value than the old Bastion Platoon. Back in the day, those cadian guard were only 35$ (maybe 45$ with the cadian upgrade sprue? but im pretty sure that sprue dropped in late 2021) And the old Sentinel was *dirt* cheap. While the comparison to now $$ might be good, I don't think its a true comparison to prices back then vs now, as the *new* cadian guard

@Loveless387

7 ай бұрын

I should waited on my response a bit, but I also just don't like the old box tbh. The tanks it includes are well... bad tanks

We also only got 4 boxes this year. It's been 6 boxes the last few years.

I bought the storm of chogris box couple months ago and the shiddy bike sculpts still give me ptsd.

I found out today that GW did not designate my LGS as a store that would be able to get christmas boxes so now im kinda screwed on being able to get a christmas box. I have one hope to rely on so I have to have faith in that

14:58 that's actually a very good box. Warriors and Lychgard are still pretty good in 10th edition and Lychgard is just sold out everywhere I look.

Another way to look at these boxes for me is also, Is this a good painting box ? Does it had good painting diversity for a faction.

Aah poorhammer talks shit about valueboxes once again, now thats the content I came for!

as a new gaurd person. this christmas books good to me to finnish my staring army.of course i want to do more but WH is expensive. i want to get to the table top asap

So I managed to get hold of 3 Christmas boxes - two Votann and a World Eaters one @ 25% off RRP so £315 for all 3. The objective with the WE box was get a cheap Angron - Already sold the 6x Eightbound for £60, selling the Berzerkers for £30. So that's a £25 Angron model. Second Votann box got rid of half the hearthguard and extra characters which equals a Sagitaur, Hekaton and 5 Hearthguard for like £45-50 I think.

Ooh ooh ooh 33:05 he said he was wrong!!! Clip it!!!!

You forgot to mention the large double upgrade kits included with the Raven Fuard and Imperial Fist boxes, on top of the characters. So you lose potentially $80-90 value on those. I'll probably be grabbing a second of the new SM boxes to go with my first. Same for the Tyranids one that I already ordered. I collect Space Wolves, Dark Angels and Black Templars (all with Deathwatch shoulders) so the new SM box is super valuable to me as I own zero jump troops and can always use more bikes, lol. The Tyranids boxes will bring my Norn and Tyrant collection up to 5 each. These days you want two Flyrants for your Vanguard Detachment. So some good value to keep me busy next year.

My FLGS reserved a copy of the Tyranid box for me. If they have any extras I will 100% pick up a second box, because I have zero Hormagaunts or Genestealers currently. Already have my 60 Termagaunts though! :D

Im just getting started and just have the leviathan tyranids and luckily my local game store is getting one of the tyranids so i plan on picking it up once it comes in. Its early to start thinking about another army, but im definitely wanting to do something thats heavy on vehicles and i cant decide between a space marine chapter or imperial guard. Then again chaos space marines and painting them up to be Iron Warriors is also appealing Either way my family insists on getting my grown ass gifts so im gonna make them regret it