[HoI4] Poland Joins Axis [WW2 AI Timelapse] What if?
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In this HoI4 AI only "historic" scenario, Poland goes into the alternative history and joins Axis. What impact will Axis Poland have on Barbarossa and potentially the wider World War 2 theater? Scenario is otherwise set to a historic setting.
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Historic, Expert AI, Germany w/ +1 Buff, Poland w/ x4 Free Focuses, +999 Political Power & Advisor
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So basically Adolf just needed Poland to win WW2
@Tatusiek_1
3 жыл бұрын
well germany was also given a buff here.
@keremerbas8735
3 жыл бұрын
He just needed oil
@goofy575
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe being to selfish in splitting Poland wasn’t such a good idea
@Tatusiek_1
3 жыл бұрын
@Товарищ LighTZY what about the danzig massacre and the fact that many poles were jews? There were several more reasons.
@kacperdudenko6828
3 жыл бұрын
@@Tatusiek_1 It's the fact that hitler want poland as friend, becouse Poland have big amount of land that could have claim on, so the purging the partisans would be easier because a part of population were Polish so the administration would be easier then getting German to travel to Russia to administrate like it happens in real world
Is no one going to talk about how the Afghans fought the Soviets alone and managed to encircle some of their units
@dapizzasnake8462
3 жыл бұрын
Wait what
@pashauzan
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the brave mujahedeen
@shadowman8535
3 жыл бұрын
@William Austin-King or Vietnam is America's Afghanistan
@wormwinna7883
3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowman8535 afghanistan is america's afghanistan
@SarhentoFurtim21311
2 жыл бұрын
I mean it did happen irl
Poland: *joins Axis* Allies: "Hey, you're not supposed to do that."
@itsalmostfun8567
Жыл бұрын
Allies:Dude... uncool...
Germany: watch yourself, Poland, I’m coming for you Poland: no. Germany: ? Poland: I’m in your team now Germany: huh.... okay?
@stephencarroll9935
3 жыл бұрын
Well until the previous leader of poland died there was never going to be war between the two
I must say the Allies did well holding France.
@ghostduty8359
3 жыл бұрын
As always
@ghostduty8359
3 жыл бұрын
@The Valkist do you think germany ai can make super divisions? he makes default ones and spams heavy tanks
@ghostduty8359
3 жыл бұрын
@The Valkist for the ai germany its not easy wich makes the holding of france .. As always
@twitchMrde
3 жыл бұрын
@The Valkist just let the man make his joke
@user-ov2sr8mv8c
3 жыл бұрын
@@ghostduty8359 95% Germany divisions go to fighting soviet union only 10~40 division in france It can makes Ez D-day
Danzig or alliance apparently
@sontrombone6907
3 жыл бұрын
Danzig and alliance
@baileyduggan3659
3 жыл бұрын
Alliance for danzig
@eddieschwab864
3 жыл бұрын
They probably had to cede some land elsewhere in Germany possibly the area around konigsberg or part of Southwestern Prussia along the Polish border to compensate for the Danzig corridor oh, not to mention allowing open trade through the Danzig Corridor and port.
I've got an idea : Africa is a single giant country.
@PadaV4
3 жыл бұрын
Oh that sounds interesting.
@Real_Tower_Pizza
3 жыл бұрын
What about: Canada, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, Oman, Iraq and Ireland joins Axis?
@theroyalereplay2294
2 жыл бұрын
United States of Africa (USA)
@anjanajnair
2 жыл бұрын
Wait it isn't!!!?? 😱😱😱
@itsalmostfun8567
Жыл бұрын
@@theroyalereplay2294 yea make sense sometimes states are bigger
The Polish book Ribbentrop-Beck by Piotr Zychowicz tells about that scenario.
@mefisto654
2 жыл бұрын
Not really. Zychowicz's book tells nothing about Poland fighting western allies.
@Fridaey13txhOktober
2 жыл бұрын
It's unrealistic, tho. Anglo-French would simply have sided with the Soviet-Union against Poland, Romania and Germany. WW2 might even have started with the strategic bombing of Ploesti by the RAF from Crimea.
@coinyfrombfdireal
3 ай бұрын
@@Fridaey13txhOktoberas we saw with appeasement of our timeline, the allies really weren't willing to fight the germans if they didn't have too. And I doubt that they would fight to defend the communists, which were even more ideologically different from the Allies than the Nazis were
When axis reconquered france, the allies suffered 3mil casualties in a very short period
@user-fb9ql8bm2e
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that massive spike in the casualty chart was crazy
I don't think it can be understated how important it was that Japan won against China so quickly.
bruh polish divisions just sit there
@killert41
2 жыл бұрын
That`s because germans didnt lose any man power vs PL so when they went after comintern or wat ever is called they didnt need to use that divisions to help since germans,italians were winning by themselves
Best HOI4 time lapses, the text narration, realism, etc. Really good.
What if Gran Colombia reunited and join the axis
Idk how often this happens in AI only games, but what about triggering that non-aligned officer uprising in the Soviet Union and buffing them so they actually win? I wonder how they'd do if they actually won.
Fascinating! always love your works mate'
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
Dude this one legit became the 1984 setting All of the main fighting is happening in Africa as well!
so the man with the mustache only needed to have allied with Poland to win the second war
very nice, love your videos
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Man that inexorable slow steam roll into comintern at 1:50.
Britain:if the old world falls the new one will rescue the old world
What if Józef Piłsudski didn't die?
It was itresting that how the poland participation in axis caused that the finland joins the axis as well
@Townes888
2 жыл бұрын
It realy changed the eastern front
4:30 encircle n cut of supplies was really harsh
Adolf: i have dominated all asia and europe in some seconds greece: hipity hopity get out of my properties
Afghanistan pulled UNO reverse card 40 years ahead
Hey, what mod do you use for you to be able to see each individual unit on your screen? The original Timelapse Unit Display mod had gone Private or something, so I would like to know what you use. Thanks!
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
I use a different private mod. But mate, and don't take this personally, there is only deception, dishonor and thievery between HoI timelapsers. It's on a level where I don't really feel the need to mingle with any past, present and likely future timelapsers ;) there is 0 joy and reason in cooperating with other timelapsers, in my experience. Hence why I only rarely answer such questions.
@fiammanerapatrick3215
3 жыл бұрын
@@GameWatcher545 Hmm.. Okay. I ain't a Timelapser, I just find it cool to see the individual units on screen like that. Anyway, thanks for answering!
Germany: Yesss we took like most of Eurasia and Africa by 1961 US nukes: *Ee-e-e-oh-mum-a-weh*
It was my first scenario which I played Hoi.
*Woah, did I just saw a nuclear explosion for a split-second?*
Epic battle! What is the music?
How do u have all these custom settings for hearts of iron 4? Is it a mod?
Basically, Poland was the key for everything? I'm an indipendent historian and this is fascinating.
When you make videos, how long do you sit there just staring at flags running around a map of the world?
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
often watch the whole thing, it's sad
@xijinping9898
3 жыл бұрын
@@GameWatcher545 wow, you actually replied. i wasn’t expecting that, lol.
How u got these graphs?
nice
4:24 When the Axis does D-Day
What about a industrial power Italy?
as a Polish peerson, this is awesome
People in France:OH WE'RE LIBERATED! Germans,Polish,Italians and turks: *Hippity hoppity,you're freedom has expired.*
What is the soundtrack in background?
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
Act of War World Crisis
Hi, maybe you've already answered the question, I can't find it, but what configuration do you have in your computer? XD))
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
2080 GTX, Ryzen 3950X, 32GB RAM, M2 NVMe SSDs - doesn't help HoI4 much, during the worst lag, while recording, CPU use is at 30%. So if you want to upgrade for HoI going too far is pointless.
@freskoviwechemtidumal3955
3 жыл бұрын
@@GameWatcher545 tnx_)
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
@@freskoviwechemtidumal3955 np!
Can you do a mega campaign ?
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the tip but probably wouldn't go there atm
Dla Polaków polecam książkę Pakt Ribbentrop-Beck
02:50 what is music name?
Pretty cool timelapse as always bro. I'm glad you took my idea
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
Glad I did! Cheers for the tip
how big is poland !!!!!! 🤤
There are 5 facts from history: Poland had the 4th largest war contribution in Europe against the Axis, France was 5th, even when France was one of the largest armed forces in the world The Polish Army prepared for war with the Soviets for much of the interwar period, especially means of transport in the eastern steppes The Polish Army in full mobilization would be larger than all of Germany's allies on the eastern front combined The Holocaust would never have happened in Poland (in the scenario in which the Axis won), and no genocide occurred in the countries that were loyal. The western border of the Soviet Union was historically Polish territory, with many Poles still present, and this would have helped establish control and minimize resistance.
I like how saudi arabia just chilling watching the war in the corner whole time.
you stopped before the real fun began (the axis had twice the amount ships of the allies)
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
mhm man they did nothing for 10 years
@batzal9459
3 жыл бұрын
@@GameWatcher545 AI should be more open to different fields of war, the german navy AI sucks, and even when they have more ships than the allies, they won't launch an attack
What if turkey faught with the axis in WW2 ?
tfw Danzig For Slovakia works on a historical game
What happened to Poland at 2:46? All of its units became yellow, did their country changed from falangist?
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
Can't say I know what happened there. They swap to Russian and then to those yellow flags and back. Thought it is perhaps Soviet expeditionary force that they took, but did not seem so.
Axis + Poland = Overpowered
Poland can into Lebensraum.
7:58 everyone: thicc axis Me: why is there a Filipino division in london
@MasterBomer
2 жыл бұрын
it's cuz Philippines was a usa puppet, and usa joined allies
why did finland join the axis? focus mod? commands?
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
It always does. Well in Expert AI at least. I haven't played vanilla in a while
@eddieschwab864
3 жыл бұрын
@@GameWatcher545 simple because they hated the Russians more than they dislike the Germans that's why they always join the axis.
@FuckGoogle2
2 жыл бұрын
To regain land lost in the Winter War. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
So the award for betraying goes to.... FRANCO!
@MasterBomer
2 жыл бұрын
ikr
Ah yes, the Danzig for Moscow agreement
Did anybody notice Afghanistan absolutely steamrolling india?
Russians should be thank full that we never joind axis. Some people at that Time sugested that but never happened. Soviets should help us, but they put knife in ours back 17th of september 1939
what the mod
Like watching an anthill. :) Poland was given whole Siberia, good deal for them. And when rich Switzerland will be finally conquered?
@toddv7257
2 жыл бұрын
never
So the average non-historical HOI4 game?
Lol, irl in the 1930's when an alliance with Poland by the Germans was still being considered, they wanted to divide Russia with Poland like they did here. Is it just coincidence or the devs actually putting it into the game?
@frakcjainspiracja3107
3 жыл бұрын
No, Germany wanted such plans, Poland only expected correct relations. they signed a non-aggression pact which the Germans broke, later they signed the ribbetrop-molotov pact with Russia and broke it too.
@user-wj6dt5bq3w
18 күн бұрын
@@frakcjainspiracja3107 The Germans only broke their pact with Poland after Poland received the defense guarantee from Britain. And actually, Russia. was the first to violate the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact by demanding northern and southern Bukovina which had never been mentioned in the original pact.
Allies needed Spain MUCH sooner
Where's is that belgium vid GW?
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
Keeping it mind but can't promise when. Belgium world conquest was it?
@blackandwhitecats4243
3 жыл бұрын
@@GameWatcher545 "What if belgium joined the allies" not world conquest.
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
@@blackandwhitecats4243 ok noted but no promises for when man, thanks for the tip in any case
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
@@blackandwhitecats4243 "What if Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg joined Allies in 1938?" Or well Lowlands? x) That's a long title. But hence after Czechoslovakia. Would be interesting to see what would happen indeed. Ok with that setup?
@blackandwhitecats4243
3 жыл бұрын
@@GameWatcher545 I'm fine with that just build forts in the lowlands pointing at germnay's border and small buffs.
wow it reached 1968 my game crashed at 1946
Well I mean i feel it’s a bit unrealistic because Poland didn’t really have as much to take on the Nazi blitzkrieg so I don’t think they would survive more then 170.6 million people
Everyone praising here Poland but we must not forget Spain. They decided to join the Allies after France and Soviet Union were defeated :D
I wonder why dont the german naval invade the UK :P
@nakoamechi
3 жыл бұрын
They don't have the naval capabilities to launch a naval invasion on mainland UK.
yet again axis controls half the planet but cant invade an enemy nation in spitting distance of their capitol
The only thing Allies can do is attacking Japan first, cuz its eazier, after japan capitulate, focus on Africa until the Allies get acces on suez canal. Then invade italy, its kinda eazy cuz germany cant put many division to italy, until its capitulated, and hold it. And then, i dont know :v
Hitler said he was lacking 16 divisions to get Moscow and Leningrad. Poland had almost 40 in 1939 - milion strong army which beat russia 20 years eaelier
Is no one talking about how Finland joined the axis
@MasterBomer
2 жыл бұрын
that's normal because finland wants to invade ussr too
Ah yes when you lose the African front so you go through Russia instead.
Some of these Axis ones... feels like I'm watching a horror movie.
In the end, Poland gets more teritory than Germany, and Germany's territory is not in germany at all. It was is Ukraine.
0:11 ??????
>Nationalist Spain joins the allies
Next do what if Liberia joined the axis, I’m predicting a total victory over both the Comintern and the allies. I’m thinking Moscow in a week then London in another week and then a navel invasion into north England and the capture of Moscow
@toddv7257
2 жыл бұрын
And if the allies SOMEHOW manage to hold them off until 1941, then invasion of USA will be easy!
Try Independent India (keeping pakistan, bangladesh, and burma) vs United China (get japan out of the intervention)
Kommentar für den Algorithmus
This is why Germany lost ww2 if Poland was join Axis, Germany could be won ww2
oh, yeah, that time when poland allied with germany, denmark never was attacked, the soviets basically lost to afghanistan and the new mongol empire formed
I did a game as Germany were I joined the Międzymorze, and turned Poland fascist by boosting ideology
I did this, and then I turned on Germany after we defeated the Soviets and won.
@Namelesswhirl
3 жыл бұрын
Of course it was a different war. England went Fascist, and made a faction with Italy, so I didn't have to fight them.
Poland joins Axis because Fascism Wait, Franco joins the Allies?!
Turkey: casually watched world be taken around it
Ayyee finally tall Iraq
Poland should gave joined anti commintern packt
yo
@sauronmordor7494
3 жыл бұрын
;)
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
hello!
@Silverstrike.1
3 жыл бұрын
@@GameWatcher545 xd I do not know if you have noticed that I comment since I am Latin I only said xd hello
@sauronmordor7494
3 жыл бұрын
@@GameWatcher545 yo
@GameWatcher545
3 жыл бұрын
@@Silverstrike.1 we don't have too many people here to miss it ;) cheers for it
If this doesn't prove Putin is right I don't know what does.
Hitler's ideology was sick and wrong and that is the reason Poland didn't consider joining. For the Germans we were an obstacle. I guess if this happened, in the worst case Poland would be forced to move behind Ural mountains (I'm not joking, if Germans would've won, they would've taken a lot of land). So aside from ideological differences we had also no trust in such people. In my opinion, as an anti-communist I've got to say that an alliance with the USSR would've been the best for Poland in that period.
@user-wj6dt5bq3w
18 күн бұрын
No, Poland didn't reject the Germans over ideology, they simply didn't want to become an ally in a major war invading the Soviet Union. Nor did they want to surrender Danzig.
The fairest borders in the USSR...
i love how afghanistan is invading the USSR. Pay back time!
The music is so fucking annoying
The real winner of this match is afghanistan
Tbh this borders are fucked up. Poland would get Mińsk, part of Ukraine and Lithuania. The rest would belong to Reich
Do u see it u pitiful germans? If u would be more nice to us Poles u could win this war