Pinned post for Q&A :)

@Paludion

22 күн бұрын

If the purchase had been approved by the chiliean governement, would the Almirante Latorre have been of any use in the pacific campaign or would it have been a big waste of money ? Would it have been even ready to participate immediately or would it have joined too late in the war to do anything beside shore bombardments ? By the time of WW2, were there any other warships "floating around unemployed" that could have been purchased by the belligerant nations from neutral countries, or was the Almirante a major exception ? Were there any successfull transactions ?

@themanformerlyknownascomme777

22 күн бұрын

had the South American economy not crashed and the dreadnought race continued, assuming the three countries get more involved in WW1, how would their fleets have impacted the war?

@DaveSCameron

22 күн бұрын

HMS Celendine , Flower Class Corvettes please Sir, enjoy Whit weekend.⚓️

@TheBaldParakeet

22 күн бұрын

Was there indeed an actual "Vickers 14 inch salesman"? Im aware it's a joke but there's often a bit of truth to them

@bkjeong4302

22 күн бұрын

Why did the Japanese never do deck parking?

Hello, chilean here! It's good that you have decided to dedicate a video to the singular Dreadnought that the Armada de Chile ever had. It still remains the biggest ship in our history that we have ever commanded.

@Yaivenov

22 күн бұрын

Chile chose well, she's a very pretty ship with a sound design.

I can indeed confirm that a fair number of Spanish language fittings can be found on Mikasa, which truly is quite the chimera at this point. It’s hard to tell what’s original, salvaged, reconstructed, conjectural or museum-specific, but I suppose it just adds more to her story.

@DaveSCameron

22 күн бұрын

Chimera, I love that word and haven’t heard it in years 😂

@ROBERTNABORNEY

22 күн бұрын

@@DaveSCameron A true Ship of Theseus

@xenoamen

22 күн бұрын

Question, if possible, what specific parts of her can you remember are or have Spanish fittings? I imagine at least one of her smokestacks is Spanish fitted, considering the eerie resemblance to Almirante Latorre's own smokestacks.

@shinjiikari1021

22 күн бұрын

@xenoamen I think it was a good chunk of the superstructure

@dragonbutt

22 күн бұрын

Mikasa is special. Its almost a living, breathing thing.

Monsters check under their beds for Vickers armaments salesperson.

@johngregory4801

22 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@derrickstorm6976

22 күн бұрын

Lmao

Truly a remarkable ship. Thanks to transfer back to Chilean ownership, by 1959 she was the last surviving battleship to have fought at Jutland in 1916. That made her the second oldest capital ship survivor of WW1. The oldest was the Turkish ship Yavuz Sultan Selim (formerly known as SMS Goeben).

Now I want to have DDV for "The Infamous Vickers' Salesman"

@alexandermonro6768

22 күн бұрын

"Would Sir like a 14" gun with that"?

@ROBERTNABORNEY

22 күн бұрын

See Charles Schwab of Bethlehem Steel as he dashed towards the UK in August 1914 with the intention of unloading every piece of questionable valuable on the back lot. The War Office eclined the offer, nut "Perhaps Mr Churchill over at the Admiralty might be interested. Mr Churchill was and among other things bought eight 14 inch guns intended for a Greek battlecruiser being built in Germany (How the Americans beat Krupp on that contract must be quite a story). They armed the first monitor class of the RN - named General Grant, Admiral Farragut, Robert E lee and Stonewall Jackson, for reasons unknown, until the spoilsports at the US Embassy objected. "On 3 November 1914, Charles M. Schwab of Bethlehem Steel offered Winston Churchill, then First Lord of the Admiralty, the use of four 14 in (356 mm)/45cal BL MK II twin gun turrets, originally destined for the Greek ship Salamis. These turrets could not be delivered to the German builders, due to the British naval blockade. The Royal Navy immediately created a class of monitors, designed for shore bombardment, to use the turrets."

@Charliecomet82

22 күн бұрын

Sir Basil, the real "Merchant of Death?"

@westcoaststacker569

22 күн бұрын

Would Nicholas Cage be playing the part in the movie documentary.

@mikhailiagacesa3406

22 күн бұрын

@@westcoaststacker569 "And, of course, the 14 in. will never jam..." Chile calmly shoots Brazilian warship. "WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?!"

My grandfather, Robert King served on HMS Canada in WW1 - including the battle of Juttland

Dare I say her modernized design is one of the most beautiful British capital ship designs ever drawn up?

@mikhailiagacesa3406

22 күн бұрын

Dare, dare! I'm usually an Italian simp, but all the Latin Dreadnought-Racers have charm.

@bahoonies

22 күн бұрын

Do indeed dare. I bought an Ian Allen book on WW1 battleships in 1965 when I was 13 years old. There was a photo of her as HMS Canada in it with her two big stacks taken from the forward starboard quarter and it was love at first sight. I still have my book (among many others) and still think she's a gorgeous ship.

Hello! 1:00 Argentina also cancelled the pre-order of 2 pre-dreadnoughts battleships (the Chacabuco class) in the Italian house Ansaldo. 1:15 Argentina ordered the Rivadavia class in 1910. 3:20 Chile also had american shipyard offers with 10x14" in echelon, but 4.7" secondaries and 21 knots. 3:35 Chilean 696 had 20 4.7" guns as secondaries, the 696A was the design with 16 6.0". Regards

The tow to Japan seems like it would be a story in and of itself.

@ROBERTNABORNEY

22 күн бұрын

Steer northwest and straight on to morning.

Yeah ... My and my friends used to Play Avalon Hill's - _Jutland_ - game a lot when I was in High School so I'm fairly familiar with a lot of the ships that were in it. Same with the larger ships that were in the _Midway_ game. So - it's always cool to see something about the History of my old friends. .

One of Almirante Latorre's 6-inch guns still survives on HMS M.33 in Portsmouth Historic Dockyard. It is the aft gun which is the specific MkXVII, which has a gun tray. The nearby HMS Galleries has a builders model of HMS Canada which is incredibly detailed, weighing half a ton. It also shows damage during the blitz when it was at IWM.

Amongst my late father in law's photos are ones he took of Almirante Latorre off Honolulu circa 1959-60 while being towed to Japan for breaking up.

@lonelylad3023

20 күн бұрын

Oh that sounds wonderful! Would there be anyway to share/post them?

@georgem7965

20 күн бұрын

@@lonelylad3023 They are somewhere in the stuff we recently moved. If they surface I will try to scan and post them somewhere or pass them on to various posters or museums who can archive them and give them wider circulation.

@lonelylad3023

18 күн бұрын

@@georgem7965 thank you!

As an Ontario resident, I enjoyed your series about the naval War of 1812 on the Great Lakes. Might I suggest that one of your future 5-minute guides be devoted to the USS Michigan (later the USS Wolverine)? Not the early dreadnought battleship or the paddle-wheel training carrier, but the Great Lakes gunboat from the 1840's. This ship was both technologically advanced in its day and had a very long career, which includes one of the great might-have-beens of the US Civil War.

There is one thing that ,if you have been reading about the history of the Royal Australian navy , one Royal Australian naval midshipman served on HMS Canada , he would later become the captain of HMAS ANZAC and later HMAS Sydney , a one captain John Collins.

@kallekas8551

22 күн бұрын

Sooo….hence Collins class subs?

@keiranallcott1515

22 күн бұрын

@@kallekas8551 yes.

@keiranallcott1515

22 күн бұрын

@@kallekas8551 very famous captain , later commodore , commanded HMAS Sydney during the Mediterranean theatre ,and showed get skill at the battle of cape Spada, his wife was still alive when they commissioned the first Collins class sub as well.

@kallekas8551

22 күн бұрын

@@keiranallcott1515 👍

@kallekas8551

22 күн бұрын

@@keiranallcott1515 Sounds like a true leader…quite rare. I’m gonna Google this bloke…hold on, that doesn’t sound right!🤣

Thats a surprisingly serious piece of hardware, to be in the hands of the world’s 10th (?) largest navy!

@mikhailiagacesa3406

22 күн бұрын

You should read period pieces on the Minas Gerais. People at the time were terrified of Her.

Interesting Ship History. When handed over to the RN in 1914, the LaTorre was already Equipped in its Arms Locker with OEWG Steyr Model 1912 Chilean Mauser Rifles, Cal 7mm Mauser, Through Vickers connection to OEWG via the DWM Cartel. When finally Commissioned, the Mauser rifles were exchanged for Lee Enfields, and the Mausers were relegated to RN Land Depot Training Rifles; With increased Mine Clearing Activity, the Muser Rifles were issued the Mine Sweepers for Sinking Cut away Mines by puncturing their bodies ( occasionally blowing them up); suitable ammunition was supplied by Eley and Kynoch, which was already supplying Serbian 7mm ammo to Troops in Thessaloniki front against A-H. Later in the ear, the Arms Lockers were re-equipped with New Ross M1912 Mark III rifles, withdrawn from the Western Front from Canadian Troops? and these were transferred to Chile when the ships were delivered to 1920. The Ross Rifles remained with the LaTorre until Ship Scrapped & Rifles Surplussed through US importers. Rifles are Marked " Directorado de Armada" and a new Chilean Serial Number, and are in excellent condition. They are " L" chamber modified ( WWI modification to allow for poor Quality British Wartime 303 Production) But in my use, is a sniper quality shooter with Canadian and Yugoslavia n ( PPU) military grade 303 Ammo ( Mk7). From: Queenslad Australia.

"Hi, I'm Joe with Vickers. Could we discuss your plans for a new battleship over a shit-ton of drinks? We have this 14" gun that can..."

My great grandfather was on that ship so I was pleased to hear it's history...

Our greatest and proud ship!

One extra part of her that survives is one of her 6 inch guns. After the ship was scrapped it was used in coastal defense for decades. Before returning the the UK where it is now the stern 6 inch gun aboard HMS M33 in Portsmouth.

Member of the entente - Chilean nitrates were essential for explosives production.. And those lovely Pounds, Francs, Lira and Dollars rolled in.............. Few smaller ships - Mainly 3 surviving large destroyers - the RN used them as its first Leaders Purchasers - The Chileans had a reputation of being the most professional of South America's Big Three aka ABC Powers. had a close relationship with the RN and consequently Latorre was maintained to a high standard.

@christopherreed4723

22 күн бұрын

Chile may have looked to the Royal Navy for its naval assistance, but Chile's Army (at least from appearances) was almost exclusively advised by Prussia.

@georgelite2494

22 күн бұрын

Much like the Imperial Japanese armed services, if I recall (the Navy looking to Britain whereas the army like the Prussian model). It makes sense, as though two powers dominated in their respective fields.

I can confirm that parts were used in the restoration of the Mikasa. When I visited her a couple of years ago I was fortunate enough to meet the Japanese ex-naval officer who had been responsible for the English information displays there. According to him, something like 40% of the current Mikasa was taken from the Almirante Latorre.

Darn you Drach! You can't just throw out a phrase like "chain the boilers along " without explanation. I know that you did a boiler episode, but that was years ago and I don't recall that being mentioned. A five minute guide became an hour. I had to sail off into the voids of the internet to explain that, including a detour into "chain grate" boilers. I could rewatch that old one, but half my mornings gone already, lol. If not a new episode on naval propulsion (I wishfully believe nuclear power would squeak in as the USS Nautilus was built during the Korean war) maybe create a playlist of prior propulsion videos. I seem to recall one on steam turbines, maybe it was a lengthy Drydock answer. Your catalog has grown quite prosperous for searching through.

Saturday night and it's raining Drach!! 2 Drydocks and a 5 Minute Guide!!!

Every time a naval gun fires, drach gets a new grey hair. Peace and keep drach young.

The Lost 52 Project has found another lost sub this Week. USS Harder was lost with all hands in 1944 in the South China Sea.

@gregorywright4918

22 күн бұрын

Hope they didn't mark it, or the Chinese will dredge her up as soon as you turn your back.

@WALTERBROADDUS

22 күн бұрын

@@gregorywright4918 3000 ft down off the Philippines.

The British Military Industrial Complex: The Vickars Salesman Strikes Back

Beautiful ship.

The last time I was this early the Kamchatka hadn't spotted any torpedo boats. Meanwhile, unlike Turkey, the Chilean government did buyback their battleship after the war.

@tommay6590

22 күн бұрын

Could there be a mixup? Turkey only exist since 1923 and had never brought a BB. The Ottoman Empire ordered indeed British BB pre WW I that were never delivered and after the Ottoman Empire entered WW I on the side of the Central powers, were never offered a buyback. Actually the Turkish government offered West-Germany after WW II to buyback the former SMS Goeben, a battle cruiser provided by Imperial Germany to the Ottoman Empire in 1914 as a „Ersatz“ for the not delivered British BB and thereby lure the Ottomans on the side of the Central powers.

@BruceRKF

22 күн бұрын

Quite a difference though. Canada was bought by the British, Agincourt was forcibly seized (if I remember correctly, the ship had already been paid for by the Ottomans and their crew was right there to take over the ship when the British said "nope"). Having said that, I think a dedicated video about the seizure of Sultan Osman-ı Evvel/Agincourt could be very interesting, highlighting the people involved, the decisions taken and their consequences.

There is a very nice 1/20 model of this ship in the Museo Naval de Valparaíso. It takes a whole room!

Thanks Drach

She was a beautiful ship overall. Very good lines and appearance IMHO. Thanks.

Thanks as always Drach.

1:40 Redheads Shipyard, South Shields on the River Tyne in North East England.

Ooh! I did this ship for an project in my Spanish class!

@kurakensama

20 күн бұрын

Share the ppt!

Fun story but Jim Hatfield tried to save this ship and have her moored where HMS Belfast now is. Jim later went on to help restore the VIC 96 and steam her from Maryport in Cumbria to Chatham docks in Kent where himself and the VIC 96 trust are still active.

@alankeyes8267

22 күн бұрын

If you're wondering why he was unsuccessful in saving her she had already been sold to Japanese scrappers before the campaign could raise sufficient funds. Back then news wasn't able to travel so quickly as now.

@HomelessEmperor-ps4gs

20 күн бұрын

@@alankeyes8267 Damn... Just like with HMS Lion, I wish they succeeded. She is an absolutely stunning ship and would have been number 1 in my list of museum ships to tour...

Love this Content! Hello Drac from Canada! 🍻

Welcome back to Philadelphia!

As a Canadian, I've always wished this dreadnought wasn't just named for our country but wish it could have been deployed here. Port of Halifax maybe and perhaps even one day have become the 2nd dreadnought museum ship. Oh well, what dreams may come.

@razorburn645

22 күн бұрын

We could have contributed to a few QE battleships but parliament got in the way. So no change there.

She was a very pretty ship

Drach will be getting a Christmas Card from Victors their year .

Chile mentioned!

Thanks!

Hi Drach you should do a video on the rn plan on what to do if operation sea lion had went ahead

I recommend you do a video on the Aconit (formerly HMS Aconite) was one of the nine Flower-class corvettes. And one on Canadas only aircraft carrier HMCS Magnificent, the Magi

I'm a simple Canuck: I see ____ Canada, I click.

@athrunzala6919

22 күн бұрын

Why are other countries using our name for their ships? As a Canuck I am Canfused

@OmegaReaver

22 күн бұрын

@@athrunzala6919 Because at the time we were still regarded as a British colonial asset, even though we were a notionally separate country.

@razorburn645

22 күн бұрын

​@@athrunzala6919We were still closely connected to the Empire at the time.

3:10 Just look for whichever official(s) within the Chilean government bought a new vacation home in southern France around this time.

That Cochrane fellow has quite a legacy!

@ROBERTNABORNEY

22 күн бұрын

To this day the Chileans have a strong relationship with the RN. At a time when the USN was giving away WW2 era ships, they bought old RN ones

,,Almirante Cochrane'' [4:13] funny. I wonder how much they spent on that ship? They never paid the Old Boy. Just gave him some shiny medallions, and grandiose titles, and stiffed him the money they promised him. So I guess it was karma that she became the Carrier HMS Eagle...

@Altrantis

22 күн бұрын

He apparently got into a sort of feud with O'Higgins, the Chilean Director, as he tended to do with his bosses. O'Higgins was kind of a dick and he held all the cards so he just didn't pay him.

@christopherreed4723

22 күн бұрын

Well, figure Cochrane was a Scot, and with a name like "O'Higgins" the naval director had to be an Irishman. The chances for non-acrimonious coexistance were pretty slim from the start, even considering Cochrane's inability to call a spade anything other than a f***** shovel.

@HootOwl513

22 күн бұрын

@@Altrantis Although wildly successful militarily, Cochrane's mercenary career didn't really pay off. Client after client stiffed him. After Chile, then Venezuela, then Brazil, then Greece. Same story. Bickered with El Supremo, and cut off.

wonder what "parts" Japan was the most excited to see. !!!...(wasn't like they were still in production)

Hey! Can we get a review on the pre-“pre-dreadnought” HMS Trafalgar?

Has baby Drach tried Iron Bru Yet?😊...All the best to you and yours... PAB

That Vickers fun salesman sure gut around. Did they have him on permanent standby when anyone ordered a ship?

Not sure how you feel about it Drach, but this is my favorite intro. Found myself whistling along to it.

@Squiddhartha

22 күн бұрын

There's a tiny burst of noise at the end of it that I wish Drach would edit out...

I love that ABC naval arms race. Literally anything you can do I can do better.....but with battleships.

I’m curious as to whether the Vickers 14” would have been compatible with US 14” ammunition?

@AndrewTBP

11 күн бұрын

That's very unlikely.

So there's an alternative timeline where it's possible two British built dreadnoughts with Vickers 14" guns could have slugged it out in the Pacific?

So supposedly at one point the U.S. was considering using her to bolster the Pacific Fleet? That would have been odd. Could the U.S. have produced the necessary ammunition? And as limited as the antiaircraft capabilites of the prewar Standard Class were, I'm guessing the Latorre was even more so. Probably best that she stayed and served in Chile.

@thegrandnope7143

22 күн бұрын

Given the fact the main American gun, by numbers at least, was the 14-inch/45 and 14-inch/50-caliber guns, ammunition wouldn't of been a problem, as for AA capablities, nothing a quick refit couldn't fix, whilst at the same time, adding radar and better fire-control systems. Though she would be the literal odd one out in the American fleet, too fast and lightly armoured to operate with the standards, too slow to operate with the carriers.

@kurakensama

20 күн бұрын

The story says they were reeeeeally desperated for battleships after Pearl and tried to have everything available. But Latorre never was. In WWI we didn't have any noteworthy vessel and our fjords, sea and islands were the playground of Craddock and Spee. Latorre forbid that in WWII.

@boobah5643

19 күн бұрын

Well, she didn't match any of the Royal Navy's other ships, either. On the other hand, it seems likely that Vickers was able to make ammunition for the guns they spent so much effort to sell.

The 14 inch calibre must have been a pain logistically. Either a batch of shells was produced once or a little production facility had to be kept ready.

I want to see the alt history where the Americans bought her. That sounds like it would of been an adventure.

A very good looking super dreadnought. The funnels are a bit Germanic looking.

Interesting it got scrapped in Japan. Nowadys it'd be somplace like Bangladesh.

@robertf3479

22 күн бұрын

After WWII the Japanese needed all the steel they could lay hands on to get their own heavy industry back on its feet, so scrapping surplus ships became the order of the day. A number of USN ships were scrapped in Japan including the hull of the former USS Oregon, pre-Dreadnought battleship.

I've always been amused that the Admiralty renamed the Almirante Latorre "Canada" upon seizing the vessel, considering they had recently appealed to the Commonwealth nations to "assist" with funding new ships. The Dominion of Canada declined to pursue this course of action, thus giving the Admiralty a chance to stick a finger in their eye when acquiring HMS Canada.

@boobah5643

19 күн бұрын

One of my first thoughts on seeing the video's title was "Not HMCS _Canada?_ What's up with that?"

Drach is the only guy i know that has a military naval fetish with boats lol

how about a review of USS Enterprise no not CV6 or even CVN65 but rather the 12 gun schooner commanded by Commodore Decatur in the Barbary wars

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Was she the last survivor of Jutland?

I've stayed in the Hotel Almirante Farragut in Cala Forgat, Menorca can someone tell me the history of Almirante Farragut

@georgem7965

22 күн бұрын

Google "David Farragut." US Civil War navial officer. Best known for the Battle of Mobile Bay and his supposed quote, "Damn the torpedos! Full steam ahead!"

@user-xh3lz9xt4l

21 күн бұрын

@@georgem7965 thank you for the information.

Ah yes, the 2nd best class to come out of the South American dreadnought race. But the heaviest armed.

A ship that got around. sm

Drach used Canada as click bait lol

Twenty-one boilers sounds like an awful lot of stokers in the ship's company.

@JZsBFF

22 күн бұрын

To give you and idea: HMS Queen Mary, the Lady who went down at Jutland, had 42 boilers and 555 stokers (info: Navy Dash History Dot Net)

Was she originally as a coal burner or was she oil-fired her entire life?

Nobody ever got fired for buying Vickers.

30th, 25 May 2024

I've heard of "bum fights ". In retrospect it's what they all are. Thanks for playing. 😢

"Whilst officially neutral"...ya, *that* phrase has never caused issues in human history.😁

:)

Why did they call her HMS Canada and not HMS Chile???

@kurakensama

20 күн бұрын

Perhaps because Chile was neutral and Canada was not.

@AndrewTBP

11 күн бұрын

Chile is not a Commonwealth Realm like HMS New Zealand, etc.,

Survived until scrapped in 1959?? Oh noooooo!

Drach u should do a new video with the use of new age military guns like those Lazars they are starting to mount on ships

@gregorywright4918

22 күн бұрын

Drach deliberately does not cover anything after 1950, so no jets, missiles, rail guns or lasers. Unless you catch him on one of those alt-scifi chats late at night with a jug of spiked Irn Bru...

🎼Buy in Btitain, in Britain thou shall buy.🎵

FJB

The need of South American countries to engage in a naval arms race is kind of curious. None of them have any colonial empires or huge Merchant fleets to protect.

@reportedebatalla6528

22 күн бұрын

There was a double process: - A race in which individually they competed against each other for South America as sub-continent. - A race in which they competed as a group against the United States for America as continent. The influence of the United Kingdom, as the main customer and main arms seller of the ABC was key in this entire process, even when the Argentines were disruptive by contracting American shipyards.

@augustosolari7721

22 күн бұрын

You don't Need that to start a war. There were a Lot of limit issues between argentina and chile. Remember that the Spanish never settled on the Patagonia, so there were no criteria to divide the countries down there, which sparked the arms race.

@WALTERBROADDUS

22 күн бұрын

@@augustosolari7721 you kind of expect them to have land territory tiffs. Like the current Venezuela vs Belize thing. Breaking out battlesships? not so much ...

@candidmoe8741

22 күн бұрын

You can use ships to transport men and cargo, instead of walking through the desert. That is what Chile did in the 1879 war with Peru/Bolivia, after obtaining naval superiority.

@WALTERBROADDUS

22 күн бұрын

@@candidmoe8741 large Capital ships are a rather heavy expense for Cash poor countries.

I miss the old intro 😢