HLG Tomahawk 650 LED Grow Light Review and PAR Testing
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🕒 Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:36 Tomahawk 720
0:59 Accessories / Build
2:16 Diodes / Spectrum
3:40 PPF/PPF/Specs
4:33 PAR
8:30 Summary
9:25 Scorpion Diablo Comparison
9:51 Final Thoughts
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This ,light looks great. The simplistic build, which to others may look cheap, but to me it looks better built than others I've seen. Excited to see the results of the new cree diodes in a full grow. This might end up in my tent soon. .
Hi Sir I'm so happy that your using a black floor to do your par tests. HLG AMAZING company and lights🌱💚🇬🇧🇺🇲✌🏼🤩👍🏼
@mikebird8290
11 ай бұрын
@@dennistracy1535 YES DEFINITELY WHEN DOING PAR TESTS 🌱💚✌🏼🤩
Those saying it looks week, what do you mean by that ? My impression is it's looks light weight and breaths tons of air and more circulation. Another thing about the week look if it hangs high, level, and out of the way that's great if you hang high and let the plant go up anyway I never planned to put a come-along on my light to switch out a V-8 engine so looks Sweet to me.
@mikemoon5077
Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t look weak it looks like it was made in someone’s basement
@nicholaspfarner1882
Жыл бұрын
@@mikemoon5077lol thats how hlg was originally founded. Now they have a facility and licenses to test their lights with hemp
@sethzimmerman6346
11 ай бұрын
Week=7 days.. weak= lack of strength 👍
@Prometheuss.cannabis.corner
10 ай бұрын
I have one, it's quality. It's alot better than the Evo 8
@TexasGrown1978
9 ай бұрын
@@Prometheuss.cannabis.corner , I figured they would smash just to many grower's fairly new that know everything arguing over opinions. Lol You liking the cree diodes so far? They have a nice spectrum range in graph.
The chips are Cree, the HLG guy said so in the latest podcast.
hello , i was just reading your tomohawk article and you said the 650 is good for a 4x4 . I have the 720 over 5x5 and its dominating. I have v2 diablos as well and its blowing them away. I dont whats up with this new chip but its much better, magnesium requirements are less under the tomohawks for some reason too.
@TexasGrown1978
Жыл бұрын
They are Cree built with HLGs participation in design phase. HLG is the only light company to have designed lighting diodes with two top tier chip maker's quite the accomplishment
Crazy you mentioned the AC Infinity lights. I was looking this morning. I was trying to figure out how i could use their new controller on the original ES300 and to see if there was an adapter for that new USBC type connectors. Then i thought, "maybe I'll just get one of their lights" but there was no info Now i see this. Crazy.
I recently got the 720, probly would've been fine with the 650 but I know i would've wondered "would it have been a better yield/quality with the upgrade?" The only thing I dislike is that they say the warranty is void if you mount the driver directly to the light
@elizabeth-2213
5 ай бұрын
Oh wow, you just helped me make my decision w/that info. I won't be getting that one then. I'm looking for a 4x4 for indoor tent.
@nk-dw2hm
5 ай бұрын
@@elizabeth-2213 depending on your home/setup you might want to put the driver outside the tent, since the driver is where most of the heat comes from. I kept mine inside the tent because mine is in my basement and I needed the heat inside the tent
@elizabeth-2213
5 ай бұрын
@@nk-dw2hm ty so much. I picked the light up last night but they didn't have the extension cable so I'll have to order that from HLG directly I guess.
They need a true 5x5 version of the light. I'm glad they are finally moving on bar style lights.
@mikemoon5077
Жыл бұрын
GML has a true 5x5 light
@darrkstarg
9 ай бұрын
@@mikemoon5077Lots of companies do. I want to see what HLG brings to the table.
@Prometheuss.cannabis.corner
7 ай бұрын
This light delivers in a 5×5 does better than 750 watt lights.@@darrkstarg
Can someone create just one huge diode blended with all spectrums ? 🤔
Hey, great videos! I was wondering if the tomahawk730 would work in a 4x4? Or would that be to much? I plan to get a bigger tent someday and would like to already have a light ready without haveing to upgrade that, just dont have the space right now. Thanks
Don't the aray 4x4's and 5x5's extralarge heatsinks have built in reflectors?
It looks pretty insane
HLG lights are the best forget the rest 🪴🪴☮️☮️
I like that they went back to meanwell drivers way better
@garrettb69
Жыл бұрын
They ship from Hlg with an Optotronic p7 j5. Not sure why he has meanwell. Maybe based on current supply at the time
I need this
@timturk1899
Жыл бұрын
I like it much more than the Diablo. It's pretty basic, parts wise, and most especially, price wise! I've never been a big fan of their overpriced, IMO, fixtures. This fixture puts out great performance, along with a great price, and one of the best Warranties available today. Much props to HLG with this one! 👍💯✌️
@geraldblount4159
Жыл бұрын
Not heavy
@geraldblount4159
Жыл бұрын
Light weight
What brand diodes
Do you have store's in the United Kingdom.
Telos looks so strong compared and Telos got Bluetooth..Telos is like the land-rover of led and when leds are worn out. They sale replacement kits very cheep ...I've had 4 different leds ....that's my thoughts
Nice
4:51 wow really bad distribution, why don't they adress this issue ?
Let’s goooooo
@EliteNugz
Жыл бұрын
You ever wonder why the big depensary grows never use led lights? They only use hid. Metal halide and high pressure sodium. Because they're just better. Led lights are good for supplementary lighting to add with hid lights or if you can't afford the electricity bill that comes with hid lighting but that's about it. Dont believe all the hype when it comes to grow products. The way you know what really works best is to look at what the best growers are using and that would be the gavita hps lights.
@CuRLy_SRH
Жыл бұрын
@EliteNugz Lol Wrong They are stuck in old school grow mode! Yes, I used HID MV MH HPS all of the types of lights back in the day, but with UV supplemental lighting we have everything covered. With a major drop in electricity, heat, cooling, and overall cost.
@CuRLy_SRH
Жыл бұрын
@@EliteNugz OHH Yeah almost forgot the peace of mind of not worrying about your place burning down
@stevephan8130
Жыл бұрын
@@CuRLy_SRH What state are you in?
@CuRLy_SRH
Жыл бұрын
@@stevephan8130 United States 🇺🇸
They using CREE and SOL I believe.
MINT 💡
@Ledgrowlightsdepot
Жыл бұрын
No EVO Mint white diodes in this one ☝️ 😎
@danielgonzalez-yp7hi
Жыл бұрын
@@Ledgrowlightsdepot 🤔
@TexasGrown1978
Жыл бұрын
The mint are an obvious "mint color". I'm not gonna give it out but your pretty far off.
@TexasGrown1978
Жыл бұрын
FYI just do a Google search for HLG tomahawk and you'll find a HLG rep with a HLG header and they reveal who the company is l. Look for name Angela. That should help you out bud
CREE LED’S anyone tomahawk does
ledestar 302k or similar
can you do the new Meijiu f10 10o0w lb301h?
None of their lights have adequate heatsinks.
There Cree diodes
Why would you come out with a less efficient light? And why would you design diodes to make a light less efficient? This sounds like bullshit to me.
@LarsLarsen77
Жыл бұрын
Bet you anything these are bottom bin samsung diodes. Exact same size and shape as the old ones, but way cheaper for HLG which means more profit for HLG.
@RassDroid
Жыл бұрын
Probably ledestar led diode...they have a 302h that is comparable to a Samsung 301h/b in PPE and Ppf, but half the cost
@Ledgrowlightsdepot
Жыл бұрын
They are not Samsung diodes or Ledestar. I doubt they would ever use bottom bin. They specs are still pretty impressive. Not the highest efficacy ever, but still really good.
@Ledgrowlightsdepot
Жыл бұрын
They are not Ledestar diodes 😎
@timpage5021
Жыл бұрын
@@Ledgrowlightsdepotf you don’t know the chips they’re using why say they’re not Ledstar if you’re don’t know that fact or mid to bottom bin. I can tell you when you compare the white light chips they are indistinguishable from Ledestar .
😂😂💨💨thanks
not impressed with the build of that light.. looks extremely cheap and weak. makes mars hydro and spyder farmer look good
@mikemoon5077
Жыл бұрын
Looks like a homemade light lol
@Toofast821
Жыл бұрын
Do you buy lights for looks ? Or actual performance?
@RIBBY_BOY
Жыл бұрын
@@Toofast821good point
@Flatlin31963gmail
Жыл бұрын
It really don’t matter about the looks longs it lasts if it looks cheap but lasts and a better light I am all in
@Lockstock1250
Жыл бұрын
@@Toofast821need good build quality as well as out put ...found telos best all round led
Don’t buy the fucking thing….i bought two and they’re both damaged from factory. Sad HLG!!
Janky
Looks cheap 🤷♂️
@Ledgrowlightsdepot
Жыл бұрын
It may ‘look’ cheap to some people, but I don’t think it does. The performance is good!
This is not a very good light. The build quality is crap and the output is subpar for its price. Don't let their name trick you and the fact that they don't release the information on their diodes. The growers choice e720 is a way better light for the money. It also can put out 800 w if you use the light controller. Growers choice also has supplemental lights with UV specifically for the e720 for only like $100.
@tylerblouin3513
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, i just picked up a 750 watt 2000umol light for 449$, this light is a joke for value, unless the build quailty is military spec or something
@demsandlibsareswinecancer4667
Жыл бұрын
How many cycles did you use it for?
@demsandlibsareswinecancer4667
Жыл бұрын
@@tylerblouin3513 and when it takes a s*** in a year, good luck getting it serviced. I just had an hlg 600 R-Spec with a 3-year warranty that had the dimmer knob go out and nothing else wrong with it completely replaced after two years and 11 months. One month left on the warranty and only the dimmer knob not working. The day that I took it in the shop called hlg, they put a new 600 R-Spec in the mail, and the entire process from taking the light down to hang it back up took less than a week. Time to grow up kid. Price isn't everything.
@jamesgara4886
Жыл бұрын
Says the e720 is a better light LMAO what a joke 🤣
@demsandlibsareswinecancer4667
Жыл бұрын
They are using diodes from cree and sol......... what's your excuse for being so dumb
Nice light, I don't care for the cheap dimmer W/ such an expensive light! upgraded dimmer would be nice HLG! Shane always says he gets the "special" Leds from Samsung😏EVOS - like on the new Samsung T.V? my best guess? I would look at grow light science, has a nice new light & great price too it's there new LED light The 1800 / $420.00💯👊WOW!
@TexasGrown1978
Жыл бұрын
Explain cheap? I would agree the box is plastic but A potentiometer is a three-terminal resistor with a sliding or rotating contact that forms an adjustable voltage divider. If only two terminals are used, one end and the wiper, it acts as a variable resistor or rheostat so the internal parts are not really cheap and work as should also that can be changed if you understand how to pick a different working model that is compatible.
@TexasGrown1978
Жыл бұрын
Stangmann what is your favorite year bud ? I love the 5 liter Ford's, the 302ci is a haus glad they did away with the 4.6
@christittle1131
10 ай бұрын
Cree is new led
@stangmann1521
10 ай бұрын
@@TexasGrown1978 The / The Coyote 5.0 liter, naturally aspirated V8 engine / I have 2016 GT Gen # 2 engine Only 12K miles on it & runs like a champ ! Like new!
This community is about not keeping indo from each other and if hlg wants to keep secrets will lol they can keep the lights they make in my eyes. It's about growing together get it together hlg lmao and the lies in par maps wow
Everyone of hlgs lights look cheaply built for premium price !!! I would never pay there steep prices
155.41 lm/W , Something a little, less than hps 600w lamp 😄
@RassDroid
Жыл бұрын
PPE from 1.6 to 1.7 of brandnew hps .... PPE 2 to 3.3 modern white Led ... lumen are for human ppf are for plant ....
@timturk1899
Жыл бұрын
@@RassDroidA great example is seeing a graph showing the bell curve of Lumens (which humans perceive), compared to a graph of PAR, Photosynthetic Active Radiation (which plants perceive and use). For the most part, Lumens don't detect most of the Blue and Red light output. Yet Blue and Red are the colors that plants use the most for Photosynthesis. For plants, it's all about the PAR, PPF, and PPFD! I was very surprised myself by this incredible difference in measuring light. Many great videos explaining it, now.👍💯✌️
@RassDroid
Жыл бұрын
@timkurk1899 I know this very Well....I am a led grower from 2014...I build my light from cree and citizen cob because in that years the market are invaded from crappy inefficent china blue red ... White led is a revolutionary technology for horticulture... hps, lec duble_ended is dead my friends
@RassDroid
Жыл бұрын
Ps professional grower not a personal grower😉
@stevep4236
Жыл бұрын
@@RassDroid what fixtures do you use/recommend?
Cool Bro 💚🇺🇦💪
Like to have a HLG too overpriced for me
A Cheap $130 600W HPS would double the yield that this LED is capable of.
And looks like Mars hydro just passed up hlg
@MobileNoble
Жыл бұрын
Never that
@dmjazz
Жыл бұрын
in warranty?
@ssako100
Жыл бұрын
@MobileNoble at least Mars hydro has permission to say they are using samsungs plant centric diodes. And why are they claiming to have developed them. Are they actually a different diodes then the plant centrics? I'd really like an explanation on this.
@dmjazz
Жыл бұрын
@@ssako100 I would like to know more myself. The only thing I've seen somewhere is they are the Cree Photopyll Select LED. and they are made for horticulture. I havent looked up the literature but I think cree has the info on their website.
@Ridvepis
Жыл бұрын
@@dmjazzin build, that hlg looks quite crappy 😂
OWNERS WHITNEY AND ERIK HASENKOPF...BUSINESS ADDRESS IS A HOUSE IN PORTLAND ON HOLLADAY STREET. NOT A REAL COMMERCIAL BUILDING. SMH GTFOH
Same numbers as 600r spec, you make sure it’s a 4x4 though