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History Respawned: Papers, Please

Bob and Dr. Zach Doleshal discuss Lucas Pope's Papers, Please. Topics include life under communism, the Eastern Bloc in the 1980s, secret police and government surveillance.
2:06 - Life in the Eastern Bloc during the 1980s
5:32 - The Society of Scarcity
7:55 - No medical neglect
8:30 - Secret police, interrogations and information networks
14:22 - Forced labor in the Eastern Bloc
16:00 - If a dissenter protests in the woods...
18:05 - Travel in the Eastern Bloc
22:54 - Wanting to stay in the Eastern Bloc
26:44 - Violent revolutions against communist states
31:32 - Collapse of the Eastern Bloc
35:44 - Papers, Please and the modern state

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  • @Ahkuji
    @Ahkuji8 жыл бұрын

    Actually the game has it right!!! Because whilst playing the game one women was begging to be admitted in, for she wanted/needed to get a surgery done because "Arstotska have only good surgeons..." therefore medicine was not as much of a problem (as stated in the beginning-ish part of the video) it was that it's just a game mechanic, where if you don't feed/keep your family warm... they would get sick...

  • @lord.l.7718

    @lord.l.7718

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think Arstotska only seems poor. Actually it's economy is devastated by war and it wasn't bad. We can see that many people come to live and work in Arstotska every day so it means that it is actually a quite developed country.

  • @bjfincher773
    @bjfincher7738 жыл бұрын

    Arstotzka is very intentionally not explicitly geographically located anywhere or of any specific political ideology.

  • @Blorp52

    @Blorp52

    6 жыл бұрын

    BJ Fincher I think it’s implied they are communist. I mean just look at the labor lottery

  • @Master00788

    @Master00788

    6 жыл бұрын

    @@Blorp52 *Stalinist

  • @michellacau6175

    @michellacau6175

    4 жыл бұрын

    Some say it’s communist, other say it’s fascist. Some even say it’s a military junta.

  • @hunted4blood

    @hunted4blood

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michellacau6175 That doesn't seem plausible. the official FAQ on the game's website unambiguously calls it "The communist state of Arstotzka". And the only fascist country I can think of that lasted even into the 70s is Spain, and given that the game is set in Eastern Europe in the 1982, I think it's pretty unrealistic to speculate that Arstotzka is anything but communist.

  • @matty1094

    @matty1094

    2 жыл бұрын

    Seconded. Arstotzka is communist. It might not be very good at being communist, but it is explicitly communist in ideology.

  • @saltpeterjunky
    @saltpeterjunky9 жыл бұрын

    Excellent as always! Having grown up in the USSR, I can definitely agree to most of the points made by Dr. Doleshal. Well done!

  • @narwhal6397
    @narwhal63977 жыл бұрын

    *The Order Of The Issac Star* You're Kidding Me?

  • @Zman44444
    @Zman444442 жыл бұрын

    As a Latvian, this talk was really good. I would love to sit down with the guest and ask him to tell me of my people’s history. I know the basics, for sure… but he’s a professor. He has a lot to say. I’d love to listen in. Edit: the longer I listen the more I can relate to. Again, solid interview.

  • @aznan2
    @aznan29 жыл бұрын

    This is one of my favorite video series. Love how you keep making unexpected choices like Wolfenstein and Diablo - games that you wouldn't immediately associate with a historical setting - all while bringing super interesting and well spoken guests. Can't wait for the next one!

  • @DoomOffial
    @DoomOffial7 жыл бұрын

    The player is a border inspector, not a customs agent.

  • @dolced7207
    @dolced72079 жыл бұрын

    I never comment on youtube, but I really wanted to thank you. This is the type of conversation that allows video games as a medium to become part of mature public discourse. It would perhaps have been interesting to attempt to explain to your (non gamer) guest some of the emotional effect actual gameplay mechanics have, it may have added some additional discussion points. We are all used to discussing games with non gamers in "story terms", but that usually weakens the medium. Much appreciated anyhow, keep up the good work!.

  • @tonberrytoby
    @tonberrytoby9 жыл бұрын

    Interesting that you interpret Arstotzka as being in eastern Europe. I have always imagined it as a middle Asian country, near Kazakhstan.

  • @teehubruum6844

    @teehubruum6844

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I always imagined it somewhere in between Ukraine, Georgia and Kazakhstan.

  • @TheRid16

    @TheRid16

    6 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was random Slavic country...

  • @vampiregamingyt8754

    @vampiregamingyt8754

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always saw it as easy Germany or russia

  • @Zman44444

    @Zman44444

    2 жыл бұрын

    By the name of the country, it sounds like Eastern Europe. Coming from an Eastern European. Honestly? I felt like it was Latvia, my home country. And I was dealing with a border crossing under Soviet rule. Of course that’s just bias and personal history.

  • @Molemitts
    @Molemitts9 жыл бұрын

    Great video! This channel has such a good idea behind it. Two subjects I enjoy a lot being combined. I would love to see more!

  • @dewittbourchier7169
    @dewittbourchier71695 жыл бұрын

    One objection I have to his commentary is that in the Soviet Union in the 1980s it was as he describes it in the Eastern Bloc, as in an authoritarian dictatorship but definitely not an all oppressive terroristic dictatorship. And as Moscow set the tone in the Eastern Bloc more than Washington did in the West, there is a good reason for this. The Soviet Union, when Stalin died liberalized significantly between 1953-1964 and the rollback under Brezhnev was not very appreciable. The biggest impediments to freedom were the internal passports which served any number of functions, one of which was to control the housing market. For example then, as now, far many more people wanted to live and work in Moscow and Leningrad than either city was fully able to accomodate, but rather than leave it to the market the CPSU simply limited the demand so that it did not overly outstrip the supply of employment and public services.

  • @MultiSciGeek
    @MultiSciGeek5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent series! Please keep making more!

  • @SiCGaming123
    @SiCGaming1239 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video series

  • @QuinlanLJ
    @QuinlanLJ9 жыл бұрын

    Interestingly enough, my parents claim they lived better before in Yugoslavia (Slovenia), than they do now in Slovenia in the EU.

  • @MrRattlebones640

    @MrRattlebones640

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yugoslavia is a good example of how Communism works.

  • @Master00788

    @Master00788

    6 жыл бұрын

    @@MrRattlebones640 Please don't perpetuate the conflation of a specific historical state with an entire set of diverse polictical philosophies.

  • @ottovonbismarck9026

    @ottovonbismarck9026

    5 жыл бұрын

    The EU is a supreme governering body that wants to put us down, they want Europe do be a cultureless, unpatriotic super state. We should do anything in our power to stop it. But i don't agree with the whole communism thing.

  • @dessnom4333

    @dessnom4333

    4 жыл бұрын

    liars

  • @luigi2907_

    @luigi2907_

    3 жыл бұрын

    Im late a bit, but we see that your parents were: rich or had very good conections. And probably aproved communism. My family had nightmares in Yugoslavia (Croatia), no connections, money and communism not approved. You had a war with Serbia, 30 days, we had a war with Serbia, 4 years. Big diffrence. Thanks for reading.

  • @netnovice1941
    @netnovice19417 жыл бұрын

    What is the infinite to continue the papers please?

  • @ryugatsuchiya9018
    @ryugatsuchiya90183 жыл бұрын

    this wd be better as a podcast, wont it?

  • @HistoryRespawned

    @HistoryRespawned

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is one! soundcloud.com/historyrespawned/episode-39-papers-please

  • @QuinlanLJ
    @QuinlanLJ9 жыл бұрын

    Saying that noone could predict what was going to happen a few years later isn't exactly right. In Yugoslavia, after the death of Tito, who was basicaly the only one holding things together, people sensed that something was going to happen. That they couldn't hold on without someone like Tito leading them. And there was noone that was even remotely liked as much as Tito was. And trouble basicaly began when most didn't agree with the leadership and Slovenia, the most prosperous nation in Yugoslavia, has had enough and started their indepenence campaign, Croatia backed them up cause they didn't trust the Serbs leading them and so the dominos fell ... Now okay, this was written a bit simplistic, but basicaly it's how it happened.

  • @KrzysztofKotarba
    @KrzysztofKotarba9 жыл бұрын

    old polish comedies and stand ups from communist years are the best in showing absurd of life in that time.

  • @eiji4693
    @eiji46936 жыл бұрын

    (I don't understand english, but no one video brazilian talk about it). Ok, someone can tell me, the history is in a communist country?

  • @StellaEFZ

    @StellaEFZ

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mais o menos, você jogou o jogo? tem tradução em PT

  • @stanislaviliev6305
    @stanislaviliev63054 жыл бұрын

    Bruh, Americans talking about other countries' history as if they were there when they don't even know their own