In case anyone missed it, YT algorithm bs and whatnot, this is the second episode on our road to the 1911. We kicked things off with the 1900: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lH9mu9KEpbbPc5s.html

@nivlacyevips

2 жыл бұрын

Tell us more about the red persian rug from Othias' TED talk

@videodistro

2 жыл бұрын

Have you checked with the folks at Woolaroc museum and Colt collection in Bartlesville, OK if they might have any of the pistols you need? They have quite a collection. Something like 800 pistols.

@krellio9006

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, is your real name is winchester?

@chooseyouhandle

2 жыл бұрын

@@krellio9006 yes and Othias' last name Coppola-Estevez

@seanbeadles7421

2 жыл бұрын

@@chooseyouhandle lmao

Today I learned that the 1902 has a brass buffer behind the recoil spring. Today I also learned that my 1902 is missing it's brass buffer behind the recoil spring.

@ronaldlollis8895

2 жыл бұрын

☹️

@sugadaddy5771

2 жыл бұрын

Make one buddy any good amith will make one for u ...download the blue print

@markjutras3773

Жыл бұрын

Thought I was missing one too. Did some cleaning and saw a slight bit of color suggesting tarnished bronze. Put some Kroil down the hole and saw some bubbles. After a couple of days still nothing coming out. So brought out the heat gun and the plug fell out. Everything cleaned up well with no rust and no deformation of plug. Oiled everything up and dropped the plug back the way it was before. And it doesn’t fall out on its own. Apparently it fell out more due to heat induced metal expansion than due to melting old grease.

You can't just drop a name like "Odus Creamer Horney" with absolutely no explanation.

@drew7308

2 жыл бұрын

This poor man would never survive modern high school

If Othais has convinced any owner of a Colt 1902 that the lack of a safety makes the pistol way, way too dangerous to own, I am willing to make the self sacrifice to safely remove it from your possession for a small fee and securely lock it away in my vault of no return least it go off unexpectedly and result in you or a loved one’s harm. It is the least I can do to make the world safe from rampant Colts. My vault is also available for securing any of the ultra dangerous low number Springfield 1903s.

@Full_Otto_Bismarck

2 жыл бұрын

"rampant Colts" I see what you did there.

@carebear8762

2 жыл бұрын

You sir are a giver. Always giving, never taking.

@LinkLevins

2 жыл бұрын

Sir, you are too kind. I feel that I probably should keep my 1902 in my own vault...I KNOW it's secure, and I've never seen yours....

@ronaldlollis8895

2 жыл бұрын

Your self sacrifice to our general welfare is duly noted, much appreciated and will go down in history as an act of posterity for others to follow. Well done, Sir!

They literally made a gun from some kid’s doodle of a pistol in 1900, and were progressively making it more practical every couple of years.

@thesmogo

2 жыл бұрын

My doodles always ended up looking like angular hi-points

@SlavicCelery

2 жыл бұрын

That kid was JMB, you crusty individual! (Pun intended)

@darranhirose8153

2 жыл бұрын

And here I thought that was the Webley Self Loader

Imagine if they scheduled the 'road to 1911' series in such a way that 1911 episode would come out in the week of april fools. And then deadass post a 90 minute episode on the development and adoption of the Glock

@araknidude

2 жыл бұрын

I would cry laughing

@tlem95meR

2 жыл бұрын

@@araknidude Hi, I'm Othias and this (groans as he grabs a pristine wartime production M1911), is some old boomers pot steel pea shooter in 45 colt or whatever. But we're not here to talk about that.

@Betrix5060

2 жыл бұрын

God this would be amazing.

@KorianHUN

Жыл бұрын

I would love to hear him talk like the matter is 1890s history with old black and white photographs but it is about glock history.

A lanyard loop is an essential item on a military pistol. I always had my pistol tried to my body with a lanyard because losing your pistol would be a huge deal, especially during peacetime duty.

I’m so excited to be on this journey, heading towards 1911. Gorgeous example of the pistol. And nice group Mae!

@aaronellis3539

2 жыл бұрын

Second that sir!

@timblack6422

2 жыл бұрын

Agree! Great job, Mae!

Ahhh...a mention of Elmer Keith. It does my heart, as a weapon history buff, good to hear this legendary man included in one of your episodes.

@mattfleming86

2 жыл бұрын

It's so easy to focus on the Ultra-Celebrities in the firearms world.. but so many people were influential on this journey. I grinned when I heard that too. By chance I ran into a grandchild of P.O. Ackley on the web a little while back and had a nice brief chat. People that didn't "change the world..." but really they did.

@carebear8762

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattfleming86 Well said. My boss here in Alaska is a distant Borchardt relative. I asked him about his last name after I got hired and he knew the historical basics. Always odd somehow to realize the designers we "gun nuts" know from their work were people, with families and "real lives" like anyone else.

@Full_Otto_Bismarck

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattfleming86 Someone I think who doesn't get much credit or recognition is Thomas Dornaus, he was the brainchild behind the Pachmayr Combat Special, a "custom" 1911 that was really one of the first to bring into one package all of the features we would consider necessary on a modern competition or defensive 1911. He then went on to design the Bren Ten pistol and I suspect he was also heavily involved in the design of the 10mm Auto cartridge. However, all i can say for sure on the 10mm Auto's origins are that Dornaus & Dixon as a company sent the specs to Norma and then Norma manufactured it. Though I think its a safe bet that Mr. Dornaus designed it as Mr. Dixon was said to be more so the businessman behind that venture.

I had a couple of .455 Webley Automatic Pistols when I was younger and they both had bronze firing pins. Mae is very good firing these pistols and her accuracy; superb. Thanks Mae!

@johnmadow5331

2 жыл бұрын

I brought .455 Webley Automatic Pistols when I was in California in 1996 for $500.00 plus $32.00 background check fee. I can not find the ammo at reasonable price so I did not fired this gun. I was told the ammo of this gun is very expensive and not worth shooting it. I found a collector ammo in wood crate for $500.00 in 2015. I got rid of this gun via my FFL friends with 8 rounds of OEM ammo in 2020 for $3k since I tried to get the shoulder stock is so expensive and the cost to shoot this gun with original shoulder stock is so high beyond my affordability.

@chooseyouhandle

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmadow5331 you actually made money buying a rare gun?

@cameronmccreary4758

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmadow5331 I had to alter .45 Colt brass and a Lyman bullet mould and load my own. The pistols shoot great and are very accurate and precision fitted however, the steel is soft. I had to repair one of my pistols for excessive wear on the area of the recoil spring lever pivot under the grip screw.

I got a 1902, same type as in this video, for a decent price about a year ago and have collected a good bit of ammo to shoot through it and... yeah it really does live up the hype. The slide operates like it’s on ball bearings, the trigger is like breaking a glass rod, and the gun’s a freakin’ tack driver. It’s a shame it basically didn’t evolve at all post-1907 as one lightly beefed up for .38 Super (even though you *can* shoot .38 Super through the 1902 DO NOT shoot anything stronger than lighter loaded practice ammo) with target sights and an actual physical safety because... Oof. It’s a nice gun. Awesome video, guys!

@TimberwolfCY

2 жыл бұрын

"Slide like it's on ball bearings," oof, I can feel that in my hands now. Perfect description.

This is a really great look into the minutiae of Colt development. People think the 1911 sprang fully formed out of St. John the Obliterator's mind, like Athena from Zeus, so seeing the little tweaks that were done at Colt's puts it into a much more realistic perspective. Also I look forward to more hand trap goodness!

I was going to sleep but saw this and sleep is overrated anyway

My family has a 1902 that is a family heirloom with some neat history. It was my great grandfather's before he gave it to my Dad. I never met my great grandfather myself, but my dad has told me a few stories, including what he used the 1902 for. He was a logging truck driver here in the Pacific Northwest, during the Great Depression. He kept the 1902 in the passenger seat, holstered in a sock. If he saw any kind of small game, he would use the pistol to shoot it, and then bring said animal home for supper. We have the sock that he used for a holster, as well as a painting of the truck he drove. I have looked it up on Colt's website, and have found out that it was made in 1905. We only just recently sourced some ammo for it, and my dad and I shot it for the first time a few months ago. Although the grip wasn't great, we were both impressed by it.

A new primer? Guess I found out what I’m doing this evening

Love C@R and my new cycle of violence t shirt

I like how Mae uses the one hand straight arm grip consistent with the era. I also like the groups she gets with it - a good counterpoint to a lot of today's "experts," the purists who claim using anything but the most modern two handed grip will doom you to hopeless inaccuracy.

@ST-zm3lm

2 жыл бұрын

It's always funny how just about any method done well can produce adequate results. Modern two-handing is the easiest, but I love the acknowledgement that you can do things differently and be okay.

@dchil15

2 жыл бұрын

You can make accurate shots with any technique if you have enough time. The modern 2 handed grip makes it possible for you to control the recoil in order to make accurate hits quickly. Speed is always a factor.

@smartassdroid5149

2 жыл бұрын

As if people 150 years ago never once had the idea to use more than one hand to steady aim. Fact is I think people back then just werent shooting anywhere near as much or as fast as the avg shooter does to day, which requires the 2 handed grip.

@donjones4719

2 жыл бұрын

@@smartassdroid5149 Yes, not the fast shooting of today, the double taps and "Mozambique pattern." One time that Othias was talking about the US military's choice of the .45 caliber (in the trials that led to Colt 1911) he goes over (once again) they wanted the one-shot stop. Their philosophy wasn't based on rapid followup shots on the same target. If multiple "hostile natives" were rushing you, it was one shot per opponent. This scenario fit the experience of the American frontier, and especially the Colt SAA - no fast reloads. The Brits had the same philosophy with the .455 cartridge, they expected to always be numerically outnumbered. To me, the ol' caliber debate flows over into the 1 or 2 handed grip debate.

If the next episode in the Colt auto saga is the 1905 instead of the Pocket Hammer, I'm not sure I'll ever recover

@wyattsteel411

2 жыл бұрын

They already did an episode on the 1903 Pocket Hammerless. Edit: oof, I misread. Still, they might not be able to find one.

@TenaciousTrilobite

2 жыл бұрын

@@wyattsteel411 I know a guy ;) (kzread.infoaOaicykqCgk?feature=share )

multi-named eyeless moustache guy truly was the greatest force in firearms technology for generations

well being early in this lovely video was unexpected but hey i'll take it

The "jangley bit" ... 😆

Still maintain these early Colts look so futuristic for their time. So much more sleek and without all the steampunk workings like the Luger's action

@patrickpleasant151

2 жыл бұрын

I agree the Colt 1900, 1902 etc. are super futuristic but I like the steampunkiness of the Luger, good description by the way

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

Like those League of Extraordinary Gentleman sub-machine guns.

@captainvladmir7535

2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickpleasant151 Thanks. I enjoy the Luger's looks as well; I can appreciate all sorts of aesthetics!

Never have I ever gotten more bang for my buck, than contributing to the Patreon. I wish you guys luck in your holy quest, and may the Disciples of JMB bring you what you seek.

@williamstuart9812

2 жыл бұрын

Agree!

33:45 So that's where the production of the 1969 film "100 Rifles" (starring Burt Reynolds, Jim Brown, and Raquel Welch.) got the idea to feature the Colt Model 1902! (with identical pearl grips to the Mexican contract ones.) Only thing with the two 1902s used in that film was that they were nickel-plated, not blued like the actual Mexican contract ones.

@paulwolf7562

2 жыл бұрын

I always wondered about that? I knew they weren't 1911s.

Love your all's stuff, love watching these long-format episodes. Like sipping a nice wine, just taking it all in and absorbing it all. You guys put so much effort and care into what you're doing, the passion and conviction in your presentation, improvised or not, is just great. Thank you again so much!

Dudes, this series is sooo darn good! In depth, easy to get ones head around, historically and technically interesting. All episodes top notch! Keep'em coming! 👍

Just wanted to say I love the colors on the Ta-Pum shirt, glad to have contributed this time around

Little tip from a collector to collectors. If you want to show your guns to someone that might dryfire them, take out the firing pins and put them in little designated bags. That's how i store my guns in general and im pretty happy with it.

Ah yes. A fine way to end my evening.

I love that on the outside its an ultra slick art deco 1911 and then you rack the slide and the barrel looks like a 6 pounder smooth bore Napoleon.

WOOOO new episode

I don't think I've ever commented on Meg's shooting form before, but her grip was rocksteady in this one. That was beautiful.

It's fascinating how these Colts leading up to the 1911 look like kids would draw for guns....before they get punished at school

Looks like I've got some Utreon settings to adjust, as I seem to have entirely missed the Trials version of this episode. I knew I was missing some history!

You guys are great! Your KZread channel is my favorite. And I really like your coverage of the Colts. Keep up the great work!

I will never get through all the videos you have produced but I am going to try, I just want to say Thank You for sharing your talent and knowledge to us through your videos. Wishing You and Your Loved Ones a Very Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and a Blessed 2022 for you.

This channel is amazing. Please never stop doing what you’re doing.

I really enjoy your in depth videos. Before the last one, I had only heard of the 1903 and of course the 1911. I had no idea that the 1911 evolved out of yearly models starting in 1900. Seriously looking forward to videos on all of these models. Merry Christmas and best wishes for a Happy New Year!

Thank you for making my evening!

i feel you on the old colt price situation! even my 1942 1911a1 has more than trippled in value since i found it! and its ben de pakerized polished and blued in pre war colt style. the guy who sold it to me told me it was practically worthless since its original finish had ben removed, so i asked how worthless is it? he said 300$ i said sold! and gave him the cash on the spot! he took the cash and i started to field strip the pistol while the guy walked into the back room and returned with a box of extra stuff it came with! a bunch of small parts and 3 two toned mags! i started to look over the parts and noticed they had all ben polished almost exactly like what you would see in a gold cup nm pistol! long story short i sold the two tone mags witch made the pistol free pretty much! i have seen fully restored 1942 colt1911a1 army from turnbull sell for over 5k! witch means that if i factor in what it cost me to begin with, a full restoration would actually cost less that the pistol would be worth after restoration. this is kinda a rare situation as almost nothings worth the cost of a top tier restoration! but im poor so itl stay my way to nice edc lol

Just wanted to say (and to push el algorithm as well) that this was an awesome episode a usual. But also that I got my shirts in and they look and feel awesome. Thanks as always!

Love this channel, love you guys and gals. Edutainment at it's finest.

Such a wonderful specimen of a gun! Great video as always but specially now because we all know were this all leads to. Great shooting and humor, Mae!!!!!

as always excellent video. hope you have happy holidays!!!

My favorite site !! Great grouping, Mae!

Loving this series!

Woooooo... love this series!

This and the FN 1903 are my favorite military pistols. I don't know why, but I know I want at least one of them.

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

The FN 1903 was the star of Red Dead Redemption.

@johannderjager4146

2 жыл бұрын

@@Edax_Royeaux, wait, it was in RDR? I thought they just had the Browning M1900...

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

@@johannderjager4146 It was called "High Power Pistol" but it was definitely the FN Model 1903. The game is set in 1911.

@johannderjager4146

2 жыл бұрын

@@Edax_Royeaux, I know when it's set, but I only remember the Browning 1900.

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

@@johannderjager4146 RDR2 did have the Modele 1899 which kinda resembled the Browning 1900.

The long slide length makes it look like something out of a comic book. I like it.

exceptional as always. you guys are great

Fascinating subject, so we'll presented and prepared. Well done, my favorite firearms channel.

@FuriousMess

2 жыл бұрын

Love my Series 70

Thankyou for a great show

Thank you for sharing your research.

Excellent and very informative!!!

Thanks for sharing 👍

1905, 1907, 1909, 1910, 1911? Looking forward to the next episodes.

Wonderfully done as always guys, and it was very EDUCATIONAL!...Do you think the algorithm noticed me say EDUCATIONAL?🤣

I saw this drop at 12:43. Now I know what is first on my list of things to do after I wake up.

@MandoWookie

2 жыл бұрын

Sleep is for the weak.

@davidhansen5067

2 жыл бұрын

Alas, I think that KZread's comment formatting may have messed up your comment by converting it to a timestamp...

Othais: "this is my rant now." Mae: *long suffering sound* "ok"

Absolutely the Best video so far. It had everything...AND a righteous anti-dry-fire rant!

A few minor modifications seems to have made the 1902 a far better pistol than the 1900. However, I still think that the Luger was the better option; especially since 9mm parabellum became an option around the same time the 1902 became available.

@user-ph3qn6wn2r

2 жыл бұрын

ฃปหนนังป,0 0.

@jacobmccandles1767

9 ай бұрын

I'd hate to try to survive on the difference.

Wow , that was fascinating, I had no idea.

Interesting that a short, light trigger with no manual safety seems dangerous. That same system describes most of the "modern" pistols out there.

@rdrrr

Жыл бұрын

A lot of people are still uncomfortable carrying a pistol with no manual safety. Psychologically, having a lever you can rock makes you feel more in contrl. People tend to feel like things they're in control of are safer (driving a car is much more dangerous than flying in a plane, but fear of flying is more common than fear of driving).

Thank you

beautiful

And the long slow march continues

The bluing on that 1902 is beautiful for a gun that old. It almost looks like a repro, but the fact it is authentic is Freaking awesome.

thank you

You had me at 'Click, Click'.

What's amazing about those pistols is how unremarkable they look today. They defined the semi-auto handgun.

amazing episode as always! greetings from poland!

I might have? But, I didn't realize there were so many different variations of the Colt Automatics. This is very interesting. Thank you Othias and you too, Mae.

The pointer cracked me up when it came in

Love this channel…

Thanks

MORE MORE MORE PLEASE!!!!!

It really is Christmas... Thank You!

Holy effing YAY!!!

love the road trip to the 1911....looking forward to the next step

When hunting hogs recently, a fellow drew to shoot a boar, and decided to reholster because the dogs were on the pig. He used a knife and stuck the pig. About the time I got to them, he realized the gun didn't make it in the holster, but fell into a foot of water in the swampy bottom where the hog made his last stand. I asked " what color is it?" and a the reply came up "it's brown now!" HA! They did find it after several hours of looking. I put a lanyard ring on my pistol after that!

23:13 beautiful... and the pistol is nice too!

"Men were manlier!" If by that you mean "men took more stupid risks", I fully support that interpretation. I wouldn't want to put any of my fingers in the way of fast-moving metal parts either.

@donjones4719

2 жыл бұрын

But putting a finger in the way of the hammer (covering the firing pin) while lowering the hammer is the perfect way to do it safely. OK, not so safe for the finger - but the gun won't go off. lol lol

The combination of the history, and mechanics is so enjoyable. (I’m such a nerd.)

On this development project/path I am excited for the 1905 model.

Manicore is great. They were big on the AKfiles about a decade ago and it was a great time to be in that niche. Lots of the gun community had roots there

OMG, got my favorite new shirt in, Shut up Kevin. That and my ta-pum shirt.

I guess I'm 4th. I've got low expectations. I'll take it

Good video.

yes please!

Finally, another step on the road to the history of the Norwegian M1914 and the Argentine Ballistar Molina!

Honestly I love the aesthetic look to the colt 1902

Woooooooooo! Lets Gooo!

Mine belonged to my great grandfather. He had it during his time in the Philippines. Still in Great condition.

The John M. Browning museum in Ogden, UT has an awesome collection of guns leading to the 1911. Saw a 1910 in there the other day, yup, the prototype.

Good video

The early Models with the front checkering and the round hammer are significantly more $$$ on the Collectors Market. Probably because they were they first, but also maybe because they were more likely to see Military Action? I also have had firing pin break issues, specifically with my Beretta 1915/17. I even had a Snap Cap in it when it broke!😨

FYI There are pictures of Richard Jarvis that can be found online from the Connecticut State Library through Flickr

Mae always has the most satisfied look on her face after shooting

Yes!

From the point of view of a south paw, the side mounted lanyard ring is a pain in the patutie!