History of Space Crusade | HeroQuest's Sci-Fi Twin

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The oft forgotten younger sibling of HeroQuest, Space Crusade (some times called Star Quest) came from the same designer and publisher and built on the lessons they had learned as well as jumping from the world of Warhammer into the 40k universe. But if you don’t know how Abraham Lincoln, Kermit the Frog, and James Cameron are involved in the game’s creation then why are you reading this when you should be watching the video!
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
02:39 Bradley's Hope - MB Games
05:32 Enter 40K
08:17 Space Crusade the Comic?
10:28 Art and Adverts
11:58 The Robot Children of Space Crusade
13:04 Expansions
16:16 White Dwarf and Puzzle Pieces?!
17:40 Video Games
18:36 Advanced Space Crusade & Tyranid Attack
22:27 A Tarnished Legacy?
25:40 Big Ideas
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  • @777Berzerker777
    @777Berzerker777 Жыл бұрын

    You’re absolutely correct. The real space crusade is in our hearts. ❤

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Impossible to get it out again without the help of an experienced tech-priest

  • @nrgspike
    @nrgspike Жыл бұрын

    Space Crusade was certainly my gateway into 40k in the early 90's. I don't have many stories of playing in except one is vividly burned into my memory; I was playing the Eldar Attack expansion with my dad, I was in control of the Aliens, he had the Eldar. It was an a-typical mission setup involving 3 tiles in line. As I recall the primary objective was simply that the Eldar player had to reach and exit via a Webway Gate. A gauntlet-run essentially. As my Dad's Eldar progressed through the first 2 tiles they encountered very little resistance from the aliens. Setting up the conditions for the aliens to swamp the Eldar in the final tile and creating an unwinnable bloodbath - because I was a 13yr old prick and thought that would be a fun game. So my Dad enters the last tile, I smugly lay down a sea of Blips almost covering the entire corridor between his models and the Webway Gate. He sits there, looks at his cards, does some mental calculations... I forget the combination of cards he played but in a double-bounding leap, utilising a single clear tile space in the middle of the board, his Exarch reaches the Webway and escapes, meeting the win conditions for the Eldar. I was dumbfounded. I remember protesting that the rest of his squad would die, he just smiled and shrugged. Essentially I'd pulled a dirty waac move and still got stomped, it was if nothing else a powerful lesson in humility and not being 'that guy' which probably came along at just the right time in my life...

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    This is an incredible moral tale, and I have a similar confession! I did the same as GM in Advanced Heroquest, piling Skaven warriors up in the final tiles and clogging everything up. Everyone got rightly upset with 12 year old me and I’d like to think my resulting regret made me a better gamer! Thanks for sharing!

  • @viggotannhauser7251

    @viggotannhauser7251

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome story! I also played Space Crusade with my parents, on holiday as a 13 year old. I remember a game where the last marine alive was my mum's captain, surrounded on all sides by my Chaos hordes. Even though I threw everything at him, he fought his way out and completed the mission. My mum later told me she had a nightmare that night about being that Space Marine, having to fight for her life! She was really emotionally involved in the game. As a kid, I was very proud of having such cool parents. Thanks for this video, it brought back some very fond memories.

  • @DanielEbeck
    @DanielEbeck Жыл бұрын

    Space Crusade was my gateway, leading to a job in the GW Studio in the LotR era. Best time of my life.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s ace! Along with HQ it was key to me getting started, though I never made it the GW Studio! That must have been great fun, any memorable stories?

  • @yssing

    @yssing

    3 ай бұрын

    That is really cool. W40K was one of the reasons I got in to tech.

  • @drunkmonk123
    @drunkmonk123 Жыл бұрын

    Finally, KZread recommends quality content to me. Fascinating stuff. I think 40k's imminent move into 'boarding actions' will see Space Crusade reimagined definitively.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    I think you’re right. There’s definitely a fun move back into the space hulks going on, I’ve really liked the new KT boxes. I hope it leads to a new Space Hulk/Crusade or even a Hulk themed WHQ! Thanks for the comment, really appreciate it!

  • @laucoloma2264

    @laucoloma2264

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope so. I loved that game

  • @vo1non

    @vo1non

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a copy of the original. I’d love to see it reboot.

  • @5ynthesizerpatel

    @5ynthesizerpatel

    4 ай бұрын

    I think there might be some legal issues between GW and MB - shared rights and whatnot - that might not make that possible. GW do seem to have (FINALLY) cottoned on to the fact that - while 40k tabletop is their premium game - there is a market for more self-contained games within that universe that might serve as gateways to it - because it's not too long ago that they seemed VERY resistant to that idea - I was once escorted from a GW shop for having the gall to bring in my old copy of Space Hulk for people to try out (not kidding) Now they've come full circle on that and reissued (and keep reissuing after saying they wouldn't) Space Hulk - and brought back Necromunda and Bloodbowl - Epic seems to be the next old property on the list - so who knows?

  • @acidvenom666
    @acidvenom666 Жыл бұрын

    I remember reading the Galaxy Quest manual (German edition) when I was a kid: Robots? Stun weapons? Looking at Genstealer figures and Spacemarines with bolters and thinking to myself: Riiiight.... 🤣

  • @Grottenolm

    @Grottenolm

    Жыл бұрын

    yes, non lethal-weapons like the Hologram-projektor, but in the original graphics of the rulebook is shown how gretchins are torn apart by explosions.

  • @musmo
    @musmo Жыл бұрын

    I had it in Italian in the 90s thanks to my eldest brother (11 years older than me…). I loved everything of this game, I bought all the expansion… and I bought an English version few years ago to play it with my German friends now that I live in bremen… and on top of everything… I printed it in 3d and after 35/40 years I am actually painting it all!!! Gosh… I just wrote to my brother to thank him after all this time 😂 thanks for bringing me back to that time 😊

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm happy to bring back a little nostalgia. What a great journey though, seems like Space Crusade has been with you throughout life!

  • @Kolyarut
    @Kolyarut Жыл бұрын

    Started my 40k journey with the Amiga version of Space Crusade way back in the day, and I didn't think there was anything you could tell me about the game that I didn't already know - but that story about Steve Baker picking up the phone was incredible. The balls on that man, to not just say "hang on, I'll transfer you to head office"! Once upon a time answering the phone could give you job offers rather than spam callers, I suppose.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Incredible to think how many current gamers owe their hobby to that one phone call!

  • @richardbradley2335

    @richardbradley2335

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure it was bugged ...Dnaught could only be destroyed by closing the door on it !

  • @fredsmith1970
    @fredsmith19702 ай бұрын

    I had Space Crusade, which I picked up in my early 20's, and played it to death with my brothers and mates. After completing most of the missions in the main campaign, I bought Mission Dreadnought. (Both the game and expansion were last played at ony of my mates' houses - who I fell out with - and never got them back.) A few years later when I was married, I managed to get another copy of Space Crusade (I think it was on offer for £20 at a B&M store.) Played this for a bit and painted the miniatures. When I was moving house, some of my games were temporarily stored in my parent's loft. When we were eventually settled in our new house, I went to retrieve my games and found that some of them had mysteriously disappeared... Space Crusade, Heroquest, Axis & Allies and Dragonlance. They been taken by my older brother and sold at a car boot sale! (minus some of the instructions and minis which I still had)😞

  • @richardpaulcaird9192
    @richardpaulcaird919211 күн бұрын

    Space Crusade was my gateway into the warhammer 40k universe, it will always have a fond place in my heart💖. Never played the old Space Hulk but did play the numerous video games🎮, awesome👌🏻👍🏻‼️☺️

  • @scelonferdi
    @scelonferdi Жыл бұрын

    That ending! "The real treasure are the friends you made along the way""🤣

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    And every word was true!

  • @yssing
    @yssing3 ай бұрын

    I played it so much both the board game and on the amiga. It got me into W40K, and 30 years later, I am still very much into W40K. I also played Hero Quest a lot, both the board game and on the amiga. Since I was already heavily into sci-fi, W40K just got me.. Such a rich Lore and awesome game...

  • @garyknight3018
    @garyknight30185 ай бұрын

    I still have my copy on the shelf, what wondrous adventures were had in the 90s.

  • @danroberts007
    @danroberts007 Жыл бұрын

    Loved this one. As an American, the only bit of Space Crusade I own (and likely ever will) is White Dwarf #134. A couple things I thought I'd add (and I haven't checked the other comments so someone may have already beat me to it): Chaos Androids were also produced at 6mm scale for Epic/Space Marine along with the Dreadnought. I have a bunch of them, although, to be honest I have no idea what their rules are like. But they definitely exist! The first Space Marine novel, from Ian Watson and published in 1993, creatively titled, 'Space Marine' featured marines infiltrating a Tyranid hive ship, much like in Advanced Space Crusade or Tyranid Attack. As an aside, one of the marines was originally from Necromunda and his name was 'Biff'. Seriously. They even meet a Zoat! The earliest 40K novels were WILD. But I have to think they stuck in the Hive Ship scenes because of the game.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh wow, great catch! Now that you mention them I actually remember those little android minis for Epic! Interesting point about Watson’s Space Marine book, I’m not surprised they included some synergies with the game. If you’ve not seen it I actually go into Watson’s Inquisitor book a bit in my recent video on the Emperor’s Tarot as he wrote the first appearance of it in 40k lore!

  • @mattyg303
    @mattyg303 Жыл бұрын

    It began with Space Crusade for me also. 20 years later I picked up Space Hulk 3rd ed and started reading a lot of the novels. When 9th ed 40K came out I jumped right in building on the armies I knew from those two boardgames. Wargaming is now a big part of my life, I paint models almost every day and play 1-2 games a week.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a testament to how much character and theme they managed to cram into that SC box - it definitely made a lasting impression!

  • @thorsfew64
    @thorsfew64 Жыл бұрын

    My first induction into fantasy gaming. I went from space crusade to the add on dreadnought factory to the tyranids and scouts, to games workshop. I found games workshop became and expensive re-release of rules and figures, so from there I spent many a Friday in my local game shop "Spirt games" buying board games and collecting MtG cards. Very good memories. Thank you for reminding me of the good times. I still have the figures as I couldn't part with "Ed209, the Alien auto cannons and the Androids". I'm so glad I am no longer alone in how these figures were seen by a younger "us"

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    You chose some great minis to keep hold of! I love those dreadnoughts, wish I’d held on to mine! Thanks for sharing, I agree it’s lovely to be reminded by the community of all those great gaming memories and games!

  • @ptjogara

    @ptjogara

    Жыл бұрын

    I got the tyranids and scouts after reading those White Dwarf issues... Ended up playing Tyranids in 40k just because I was young and had a load of those models. I still have a soft spot in my heart for Scouts though....

  • @franciscoguerra5439
    @franciscoguerra5439 Жыл бұрын

    A fantastic video on my all-time favourite board game (and I own hundreds of them). It was the game that introduced me to Warhammer 40k in the early 90's, which would become my favourite hobby of all time in the years to come and all the way up to today. My well-used copy has literally travelled with me around the world, first bought in Portugal and now residing with me and my family in New Zealand. Here I've bought a couple of other copies of the game so I can restore one to full condition, while also retaining my original (and its two expansions) in my well-loved state that brings back so many fond memories of home and youth. Now I get to play it with my wife and daughter, and it has helped me introduce my girls to this amazing world as well, so in a way, it has all come full circle. Really informative and well researched video. Nice to see the old Space Crusade get some well-deserved love.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    I foolishly got rid of my original copy in a big purge many years ago, have picked up bits and bins again over the years. The restoration copy is a great idea, and I love that you’ve kept your original and still play it with family, that’s so great. Thats the true legacy of Space Crusade right there!

  • @matt.willoughby

    @matt.willoughby

    Жыл бұрын

    That's awesome!

  • @justok40k
    @justok40k8 ай бұрын

    here here! great video, exactly my sentiments and I would happily be that guy who starts the online groundswell, the clamour to get this reissued! Keep up the great vids

  • @anjinsanroland
    @anjinsanroland Жыл бұрын

    "...hulks of spaces hulk and crusade..." an ingenious sentence which I had to listen to multiple times to understand. Well spoken sir :)

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Trying not to sacrifice too much clarity for levity, but words can be such fun!

  • @craiganderson1033
    @craiganderson1033 Жыл бұрын

    Space Crusade and Heroquest, were a huge entry point into the GW hobby, and i still have both and the expansions, and my 11 year old and 7 year old sons are also now loving playing them both

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    That's awesome, I love how these games have been passed on between generations. Absolute classics!

  • @6Stevo
    @6Stevo Жыл бұрын

    Where the hell did this awesome channel pop up from?! I can tell, I am REALLY gonna enjoy this channel. 🥰

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Ha, thanks for the support! Hope I can keep the fun stuff coming with a few ideas I’ve got for next year

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 Жыл бұрын

    “…the perennial favorite - the genestealer.” That sounds like the kind of thing a genestealer would say. Kidding aside, I remember seeing these games & articles, but never had the chance to play them. The plastic scouts with the ludicrously oversized heavy bolters & that chaos dreadnought are the two things I remember most vividly.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    We. Wait. THOSE Genestealers are just a great bunch of lads! I always thought those scouts must have the worst shoulder pain, their pauldrons are even bigger than their bolters!

  • @superbn0va
    @superbn0va3 ай бұрын

    I would get it for the cover art only. Awesome game, one of my favorites! Fun, not too complicated and again much fun

  • @dyansis
    @dyansis Жыл бұрын

    Space crusade was my entry point to the world of 40k. 29 years later and I'm still going strong. And as for the re release idea. I'd never heard of it and frankly I'm glad the idea of sexy marines in space fell flat on its face.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s amazing how many lifelong gamers it’s responsible for! I’d thankfully avoided the dodgy Prodos stuff until recently too, and am equally glad they didn’t stick around!

  • @housewife2000
    @housewife2000 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video! I remember first seeing Space Crusade at primary school when someone brought it in on the last day of term, and it blew my tiny mind. Off down the 40k rabbit hole I went! And you're absolutely right about that cover artwork - it brought the whole idea to life and fired up the imagination.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Those last days of term were amazing, every kid bringing in some random classic game to play all day! Don’t think any of the kids in my class were cool enough to bring SC, you got lucky there!

  • @Tarelom
    @Tarelom Жыл бұрын

    I got StarQuest for Christmas in the early 1990s. I was maybe 9 or 10 years old. I can remember slowly unpacking the game and being amazed. Since I had the German version, the weapons were non-lethal, which I didn't think was realistic because of the dark atmosphere. So I changed that for myself and soon started to modify the rules, too. A heavily worn but loved copy is in my cupboard. And it was the beginning of my interest for the 40k lore

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    An incredible Christmas gift! I’m still amazed how much stuff they managed to fit into the boxes for this and HeroQuest, just amazing gaming value

  • @willgrealy1727
    @willgrealy1727 Жыл бұрын

    I still own the original Space Crusade plus both Eldar Attack and Mission Dreadnought. Played all the missions and it was great fun.

  • @hughmac7423
    @hughmac7423 Жыл бұрын

    I've played all of these, back in time. I still have them too.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    True classics!

  • @craigdavidson5613
    @craigdavidson5613 Жыл бұрын

    I happen to still own my copy of Space Crusade, given I believe it's one of the best board games ever made. I got it decades ago in the mid-1990's. I first learned about it from my brothers, given that one of them got Hero Quest in 1990, and I quickly learned about the other games in the range. When I discovered that the local toy shop was selling the core game for $19AU, I thought, this would be a perfect opportunity for me to get a copy. So I got it for a Christmas present. I also got the Mission Dreadnought expansion that year, given it was $9AU. Now that the games cost a pretty penny to get nowadays, I'm glad that I kept them. I then discovered that there was a second expansion, Eldar Attack, that never arrived in Australia. Being a completest, I later purchased the expansion on eBay. It might have cost $150AU, but it was worth it to complete the set. My copy of Space Crusade is a true treasure. And especially since I later got copies of Hero Quest, and Battle Masters, the other two games in the MB/GW trilogy of board games, for cheap at local charity shops. I pride myself for having the complete set. And it all started with Space Crusade, a long time ago.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    You've done well to keep hold of them all this time - I was not as sensible! Amazing to have the complete set though, hope they still make it to the table every now and again!

  • @davidk6269
    @davidk6269 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this wonderful stroll down memory lane!!! Your absolute love of this game is apparent throughout this video. ; )

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment, I’m glad I was able to get the passion across!

  • @themarchinggoblin8294
    @themarchinggoblin8294 Жыл бұрын

    My intro to 40k without even knowing it was playing space crusade on my amiga 500 like 25 years ago. Still never played it physically but it introduced me to 40k and space hulk.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    A worthy introduction nonetheless, and a perfect stepping stone to Space Hulk!

  • @trancedarkdust90
    @trancedarkdust90 Жыл бұрын

    Space Crusade……best 40k game I have ever played. Yeah I said it. Simple, fun and leaves just enough for wanting more…..

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    I can respect this! It’s absolutely one of my top 40k game experiences, still love it!

  • @superbn0va

    @superbn0va

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree!

  • @roberts6489
    @roberts6489 Жыл бұрын

    I had Heroquest, Space Crusade (my introduction to 40k), Tyranid Attack and Space Hulk as well as the expansions and a few others of the same type.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    A classic range there, a great introduction to GW!

  • @roberts6489

    @roberts6489

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jordansorcery They were absolutely a great introduction with rules easy to understand. I'm just getting back into TTRPG 20+ years after my last foray.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome back to the fold! There’s even more amazing stuff out there these days, even the updates of classics like WFRP are awesome. What have you been getting back in to?

  • @roberts6489

    @roberts6489

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jordansorcery been looking around to decide. Was gonna get really into DnD but now considering pathfinder, as really into fantasy but also sci-fi so possibly 40k again, but the only thing that's holding me back on 40k is cost etc.

  • @ampeater777
    @ampeater777 Жыл бұрын

    11:27 yo that commercial was awesome

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s still one of the best!

  • @stephenbaker6730
    @stephenbaker67309 ай бұрын

    Hi Jordan, Thanks for putting together this video. It's GREAT! As you say, Space Crusade does not get as much coverage as HeroQuest. I wanted Space Crusade to capture the tension and action of contemporary sci-fi movies. It needed to be its own game rather than a re-working of HeroQuest. Your video does a great job of highlighting the differences. I am so glad you enjoyed this game. The greatest reward for me as a game designer is hearing from people who have loved playing my games. Keep making your videos. They’re fantastic!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    9 ай бұрын

    I'm really glad you enjoyed the video, and that it was reasonably accurate! I've a lot of love for both HQ and Space Crusade and I'm very grateful you made them. Happy, I've been able to bring a little more of their stories to light for some folk too! I'm actually working on a Battle Masters video too so if you ever fancy chatting about your terrific work I'd love to hear more!

  • @AlVainactual
    @AlVainactual Жыл бұрын

    Interesting to see 40k's history! Great vid!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @lightinghound
    @lightinghound Жыл бұрын

    This was my introduction to warhammer 40k. That ad brings me back.

  • @mattcunnington1972
    @mattcunnington1972 Жыл бұрын

    That was really great video, thanks. I bought this back in the day, with the Dreadnought expansion, but alas not the Eldar one. I had 40K but never got into that, but this got all my group intrigued, especially with the ongoing campaign. I stupidly gave my copies away, but I hope somebody does a re-release like the recent Heroquest one.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    I made the same mistake and got rid of my copy, and I couldn’t agree more - a quality re-release would be amazing!

  • @stuarttempleton43
    @stuarttempleton434 ай бұрын

    I loved Space Crusade as a kid, and I still have a complete copy that gets dusted off now and then - it's a great game.

  • @jamesv.7041
    @jamesv.7041 Жыл бұрын

    I just obtained an awesome copy of SC a couple of months ago and have been eagerly awaiting something like this. Between this and your WHQ videos, you are quickly shooting to one of my favorite channels, thank you for all of the hard work you put into these videos.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s really nice of you to say, thanks for watching them! Hopefully, some of the topics I’m working on are just as interesting!

  • @jamesv.7041

    @jamesv.7041

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jordansorcery sometimes you come for the content and stay for the personality; you are such a case, good sir!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    You’re too kind!

  • @benbaxter1047
    @benbaxter1047 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another video. I never owned this game in the 80s but my friends had a copy. I bought a copy with mission Dreadnaught 5 years ago and have played 3 campaigns with my 2 sons, both who play Euro board games and of course GW and MB/Hasbro Games.

  • @ptjogara
    @ptjogara Жыл бұрын

    I was lucky in that I experienced both HeroQuest and SpaceCrusade through my cousins. My eldest brother was into GW games at that point and suggested my parent's buy me SpaceCrusade as a joint Xmas/birthday present. Luckier still, I had both of my brothers and a family friend willing to play the campaign with me. I still remember that time we used the expansion which included the tarantula weapon for the marines and my brother used it to block my genestealer in a room, as my maximum damage would never defeat the tarantula's armour.... happy days :)

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely perfect games to tear open on Christmas Day! Sounds like your brother was playing to win! Fantastic use of circumstance - I love it!

  • @GGRS
    @GGRS Жыл бұрын

    Another great video mate, enjoying these. Happy holidays!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! Happy Christmas and merry Mondstille!

  • @Boyer316
    @Boyer316 Жыл бұрын

    If I remember correctly there was a weird rule in Advanced Space Crusade where you would react to the other players actions and it could end up in a huge loop where me and my friend just got stuck reacting to each other over and over, I got rid quickly.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha, that sounds like a wild oversight!

  • @mattallt5649
    @mattallt5649 Жыл бұрын

    Me and two friends at the time had space crusade. We used to put the three boards together to create 'mega crusade'. Not sure how we got that to work

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    That sounds epic! I really miss those kinds of wild inventive games with friends - house rules and smashing games together to make something else. I think I’ll need to find some time to do that kind of thing again this year!

  • @stalker1983
    @stalker1983 Жыл бұрын

    SOmething about the art and colours just sells the cramped, claustrophobic interior and desperate close quarters combat, and promise of more things beyond the next bulkhead. Fantastic vibes. This and the art in the 2nd ed 40K really sold it to me when i was a lot smaller

  • @fri8601
    @fri86013 ай бұрын

    Well that was the first video Iv seen if yours. And it was honestly amazing. I remember playing heroquest, and then space crusade on the amiga. The dreadnought was terrifying. I remember my friend telling me he used to have nightmares about it hahaha.

  • @shvagyerpl
    @shvagyerpl Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for these videos. Always very interesting and well put together. Frankly I'm amazed your subscriber count isn't a few digits longer.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    That's lovely of you to say, I'm glad you're enjoying them!

  • @colig54
    @colig5427 күн бұрын

    Twas this and Heroquest that sparked my interest in miniatures, it was all so confusing as an 11 year old but so captivating, that bastard dreadnought!!

  • @mattpaterson6217
    @mattpaterson62175 ай бұрын

    Brilliant and detailed review

  • @maxkongress6312
    @maxkongress6312 Жыл бұрын

    Such wonderful memories! I still own my (near mint) copy of "Star Quest" - as we called it here in Italy -. I've spent soooo many hours of play and fun with it. Good job and excellent quality video, grazie mille!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Well done to keep it at all let alone near mint, I’m a bit jealous! Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @stephenrenwick8781
    @stephenrenwick8781 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I still have the space crusade Marines as well as a complete advanced space crusade, the tyranid plastic is looking a bit worse for wear now.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Some classic minis in that ASC box!

  • @georgeagathangelou5303
    @georgeagathangelou5303 Жыл бұрын

    This is a great video - research editing, everything! Good luck with the channel

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, really appreciate this! I’m glad you enjoyed the video

  • @SecondSince
    @SecondSinceАй бұрын

    I played tons of HeroQuest with my brother and friends, but never even heard of this. I missed out!!

  • @joec9958
    @joec9958 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video! I have fond memories of playing Space Crusade as a child. I'm being pedantic here but I believe the necrons had a limited release in 2nd ed 40k through white drawf. The model you show is a freebie that came with the magazine (and I still have somewhere)

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! You’re totally right about the Necron, my timeline was a little out - the White Dwarf army list came out in Feb ‘98 and 3rd edition released in October ‘98 with the dangerous xenos page. Somehow those sneaky Necrons got behind me!

  • @Debbiebabe69

    @Debbiebabe69

    Жыл бұрын

    2nd ed 40k is still the best ruleset imo. And yes, there was a necron on white dwarf. I still have it, as well as all the space crusade/mission dreadnought/eldar attack minatures.

  • @craighutchison5258
    @craighutchison5258 Жыл бұрын

    Battle Masters! I loved that game! I used to secretly arrange the cannon cards so it would always hit

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Classic bit of sneaky manipulation, I hope you were playing Chaos!

  • @Paintedfigs
    @Paintedfigs Жыл бұрын

    Nice to watch a documentary-quality history of the game. Thank you!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for commenting, really glad you enjoyed it!

  • @samliekens5433
    @samliekens54334 ай бұрын

    My best friend owned a copy of HeroQuest back in the day, now he owns 3 or 4 of them. We weren't able to get our hands on a spacecrusade/StarQuest copy but it didn't stop us: we downloaded the boards and doors, and bought ourselves various 40K sets to create our own version! Creating house rules for both games.

  • @dysonraf
    @dysonraf Жыл бұрын

    Just came across your video. Excellent production very well done like a documentary style! Can't believe you haven't more subscribers. Subbed!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, that’s very nice of you to say! I’m still pretty new around here so I’m hoping word will spread!

  • @lootpigeon
    @lootpigeon Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, was a great trip down memory lane! I remember playing Space Crusade on the Amstrad, so many good times. I remember my friend having Tyranid Attack and thinking the exact same thing about the vomit inducing board pieces haha I saw you have a few other really interesting topic vids so I'm going to check them out, thanks for the fantastic break down and keep up the great work

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the comment, glad to know I’m not the only one repulsed by those hive fleet interiors!

  • @nithzen1
    @nithzen1 Жыл бұрын

    Great content, your research it's amazing, please keep going doing this wonderful job and I expect to see more about 40k genesis in the early years and development to become what its today

  • @alfje5492
    @alfje5492 Жыл бұрын

    The best thing about HeroQuest is StarQuest! Love both, but StarQuest/Space Crusade has always been my favourite!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a brilliant game!

  • @gazmatraz5248
    @gazmatraz5248 Жыл бұрын

    Wow this was an emotional journey through long forgotten past times! cheers for the video would love to see you do the history blood bowl.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    My pleasure, glad it brought back some memories! Blood Bowl is a great shout, definitely on the list!

  • @henrikwannheden7114
    @henrikwannheden7114 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent rundown!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @secondeditionwargaming
    @secondeditionwargaming Жыл бұрын

    Great content, keep it up!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    I’ll do my best, thanks!

  • @TrentRosenbaum
    @TrentRosenbaum Жыл бұрын

    That was such a cool walk down memory lane. I know what you mean about space crusade being something inside 😂 I had the Eldar attack expansion and this last year I've finally plucked up the courage to paint that Eldar war host. Top video 👍 and Merry Christmas.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, glad you liked it! Oh wow, I'm jealous of that Eldar Attack you've got, but that's great about getting them to the painting table - that's how they fulfil their gaming destiny! Merry Christmas!

  • @dist0rted320
    @dist0rted320 Жыл бұрын

    That TV ad reminds me of those 80's-inspired 40K ai art generations going around on KZread. I would love to see something like this (especially a David Lynch version i.e. Dune)

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    David Lynch’s 40K would be something special!

  • @dancingcrabspeaks
    @dancingcrabspeaks Жыл бұрын

    Another excellent video! I own several of the SC products (OG game, expansions, PC and Amiga boxed games), and love learning more about them. Thank you.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it, especially if you’ve got everything to hand already!

  • @lorenzovive5801
    @lorenzovive5801 Жыл бұрын

    I agree and understand your closing comments Jordan, as this is the game that started me down the exact same path. Thank you for your research and hard work.

  • @barcodebattler2587
    @barcodebattler25876 ай бұрын

    Had me cracked up with that line about the real space crusade being "in here" all along until the end of the video😂

  • @chriscathrine9696
    @chriscathrine9696 Жыл бұрын

    Thoroughly enjoyed this! Space Crusade was my gateway to Space Hulk, then Warhammer 40K, then Necromunda, etc etc. I recently got a complete copy and have been playing it with my kids who say it's better than video games even. With the new version of HeroQuest out there I had wondered why there wasn't a new Space Crusade, so thank you for answering that question! Hopefully another company picks up the rights and puts out a family friendly successor one day.

  • @stueybhoy
    @stueybhoy Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, I totally missed out on space crusade when I was younger but found myself becoming interested in it and old miniature board games during Covid which allowed me to start a number of 3D projects with the first being Heroquest, I am now working on. 3D version of Space Crusade and this video will give me the extra inspiration to get the job done so many thanks 🙏🏼

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Happy to have helped! I really like the idea of doing updated Space Crusade and HeroQuest sets using modern citadel minis, love the idea of doing it in 3D too!

  • @ChapterMasterDad
    @ChapterMasterDad Жыл бұрын

    Subscribed, thanks for being around!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for subscribing and commenting! Glad you're enjoying the videos!

  • @dabodunne
    @dabodunne Жыл бұрын

    my friend had heroquest and I had space crusade. Needless to say many hours of gaming fun. Now I just wish I still had them. Never realise how hard it will be to get hold of your old games that you took for granted as a kid.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Both were just amazing, brilliant games to grow up with!

  • @Mr_Waffle.
    @Mr_Waffle. Жыл бұрын

    Great video! When I was a kid I got the Dreadnought expansion for Christmas... not the base game, just the expansion lol. It didn't matter, the power of my imagination was enough to enjoy playing with all those minis. I got into w40k a bit in high school (2nd edition) and have loosely followed it since, so Space Crusade made at least one fan of the hobby!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. The classic curse of a well meaning but unobservant family member! At least it was the one that included the amazing dreadnought though, I’m not surprised that could entertain on its own, totally awesome mini that!

  • @andrewjamieson7178
    @andrewjamieson71788 ай бұрын

    Excellent video! Never had space crusade but got the advanced set Christmas 1990 or 91, and adored it. Managed to get a copy on eBay about 20 years ago. ❤

  • @thunder2434
    @thunder2434 Жыл бұрын

    I remember holding the Eldar attack box in my hands at the local tabletop game shop and finding out it was just an expansion I wanted to get Space Crusade, but it was sold out and no longer available. I ended up buying the Aliens boardgame instead, which I didn't regret. But the yearning for Space Crusade that I'd missed by just a year or so finally got to me so I bought Space Hulk and Tyranid Attack and though I played them I got the most out of it using the minis for 40K games. I did have Space Crusade on the Amiga though, so I did get to play it.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh brutal, so close yet so far! Glad you at least got the virtual experience though!

  • @thehappyogryn
    @thehappyogryn Жыл бұрын

    I played it a few times at the club we had back then but always went back to my favorite the old heroquest, but it was still fun to play and watch, imo the kill team game is the new space crusade. Has always you've taken us back down memory lane... damn, i'm old...

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    I was pleased to see Kill Team’s latest setting move it to a Space Hulk, they’re such an interesting idea that I enjoy seeing GW explore them in different ways. Space Crusade is still one of the best though, in my opinion

  • @noodles2459
    @noodles2459 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly "Space Marine Adventures" Line of board games are now the spiritual successor of Space crusade in my eyes.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that’s a good shout, they definitely have that same kid-friendly pick up & play vibe

  • @aquilaprimedesign
    @aquilaprimedesign Жыл бұрын

    Somehow, this game did have a limited US release. I remember tracking down clearance copies at Kaybee Toys and Toys R Us in the early '90s. Kaybee was mostly a closeout store by then, but Toys R Us was still a major retailer back then.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh wow, I wonder if it was a specialist import, or just made its way as a general release in the US later than in Europe. I couldn't find any specifics about the international release, but the consensus was that it didn't make it to the US. At the very least it seems to have been far more limited than the HeroQuest release a few years earlier

  • @LordOcti
    @LordOcti Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video! Being in the US I never got to play Space Crusade, but I played a ton of Heroquest and then 40k in the early 90's. Very fun memories.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and commenting! It’s such a shame about SC not making it to the states, but at least you had HQ, that was one fantastic game!

  • @jameswhitehouse5706
    @jameswhitehouse5706 Жыл бұрын

    I still have this game. It’s definitely coming out over Christmas now and I’ll see if my daughters will play! Thanks for the video. Oh one last thing … for me this game has all the 40k you need in one box!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a perfect little 40K time capsule! I’m glad to hear there’ll be at least one extra Space Crusade game this Christmas, that’s my job done!

  • @Alvion
    @Alvion Жыл бұрын

    I'll wait for a "History of Necromunda" video with much anticipation :)

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a topic in the Patreon vote right now, but Mordheim currently has the edge! (though I’ll no doubt get round to it eventually in any case!)

  • @James80312
    @James80312 Жыл бұрын

    Very well researched and presented

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, and thanks for commenting!

  • @leipherd8118
    @leipherd8118 Жыл бұрын

    The black and white art always struck me as being Kev Walker, who did art for 2000AD and GW around this time

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s really nice isn’t it, definitely has a similar vibe. I actually talk a little about Kev Walker in my Mighty Empires video as he painted the territory tiles for that game - a very different style to his comic art though!

  • @yancowles
    @yancowles Жыл бұрын

    Great video Jordan, not sure why but SC popped up in my consciousness the other day and I'd been feeling the heady tug of nostalgia. Nice to see someone has created a video. I had the base set and the two expansion packs and, man, did we play that game - sometimes consuming entire bank holiday weekends with it in a somewhat altered reality state in the 90s/2000s. Its serious usage was reflected in many of the push-fit weapons losing their plugs, broken off arms, the thin plastic control panels getting cracked and the cardboard doors separating but my gosh was it super fun. I ended up donating it to a mate who had kids although he did suggest returning it to me just before the covids hit (and says it's pretty much unused by them) so I might see if I can take him up on it now. I wonder what's happened to all the original moulds (if that's the right term), artwork and such like. Surely now's the time for a reissue, I see there's a Space Crusade set going for £300 on ebay!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    They did a great job didn't they - it felt infinitely replayable at the time! Lovely that you at least gave it the chance to have a new life with a new generation, even if it didn't appeal to them in the end! And yeah, any way to get hold of a copy these days that's not at those wild ebay prices is worth a go!

  • @CarlEmmoth
    @CarlEmmoth Жыл бұрын

    Space Crusade was really funny. We later bought Advanced Space Crusade and it was awesome to invade living space ships and destroy their body organs :) The blips was always exciting

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Advanced Space Crusade had some really neat ideas and expandability, and I totally agree - the concept of invading the biofleets is great! - but I just couldn't get on with that board!

  • @pforson
    @pforson Жыл бұрын

    Great Video, thanks very much! Space Crusade was the first GW* game I played. A friend invited me round to play and as soon as I saw it, I was amazed. I was 10 and I‘d never seen miniatures before. I begged my parents to take me to the toy store in town to buy a copy and a week later they agreed. Once there, I discovered there was also a fantasy version called Heroquest and I chose that one. From there after I got into WFB and collected a huge Dwarf army. Honestly, the fact that Heroquest and Space Crusade were available from regular toy shops made them excellent gateway games. I‘d always assumed Space Crusade was more popular / well known than Heroquest, due to the popularity of Space Marines. I wonder why they never released it in the US. *technically MB

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    I think you’re on the money, getting it in toy shops with the reliable MB branding just opened the door so much, I bet there was a huge influx of lifetime wargamers as a result. I’d love the answer to the US release strategy, just seems such a strange decision from my perspective. Thank you for the comment!

  • @raycearcher5794
    @raycearcher5794 Жыл бұрын

    Although coming by this game today is a tall order, it has been recreated in TableTop Simulator, so you can play it that way. Lots of original art and newer pieces are included, and the models for the minis and tokens look quite authentic.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    I took a brief look at this during my research, it seems like they did a great job!

  • @keepcalmandre-roll5480
    @keepcalmandre-roll5480 Жыл бұрын

    This is great :) so many memories of Space Crusade. It was my entry point into 40K and the larger GW universe. Space Hulk was my other gateway game

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here, Space Crusade planted the seed and then Space Hulk really made it flourish - two incredible board games that did such a good job with atmosphere and theme that they made 40K impossible to resist! Thanks for the comment!

  • @keepcalmandre-roll5480

    @keepcalmandre-roll5480

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jordansorcery no worries dude. Your channel is great and I love the content (First found you due to your Warhammer Quest vids) keep up the good work and have a good festive break

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Have a great Christmas and a merry Mondstille!

  • @Jackalblade9
    @Jackalblade9 Жыл бұрын

    I sadly never got a hold of this, my first foray into the 40K universe was Space Hulk...and many Terminators found nothing but a cold grave on those derelict ships, let me tell you. Still have most of the bits for it. But my first experience of any kind with Space Crusade was watching Ashens stream the video game. It looked amazing and between your video and his livestream I wish this had been part of my childhood. Fantastic work, sir.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Space Hulk is not a bad intro to 40k either tbf! A lot of awesome games of that in my past - still love it to this day!

  • @thirteenthirtyseven4730
    @thirteenthirtyseven473012 күн бұрын

    As a kids who grew up with the german edition, I welcomed the ludicrous pacifist coat of paint tacked on to a universe whose core premise is eternal conflict. It allowed me to reconcile the undeniable draw of the game with my family’s values. I even thought my parents had bought the pacifist story as they understandingly nodded when I explained that none of the weapons are meant to kill. It was only much much later I understood that their coolness was a grand gesture towards my childhood.

  • @stevenyoung9208
    @stevenyoung92085 ай бұрын

    i love your youtube channel so much lmao

  • @georgeaitken2719
    @georgeaitken2719 Жыл бұрын

    I ended up with quite a few advanced space crusade board tile sets for 50p a set when my local games workshop had a sale in the 90s

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Love those random discounts that lead to unusual gaming opportunities like a 10 board mega Space Crusade game!

  • @tHiNk413
    @tHiNk413 Жыл бұрын

    German here, our version was.....different, but I kinda have the exact same memories as you.... Thanx for the great vid!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    It certainly sounds like a different take on 40k lore! Thanks for watching!

  • @pwrlol
    @pwrlol8 ай бұрын

    Fantastic video, this game certainly kick started my love of 40K…… particularly that genestealer ambush card, still painting and playing with genestealers and other Tyranids to this day. One slight correction is that Necrons got their first mention before the third edition rulebook in a couple of issues of White Dwarf. You even got a free metal Necron warrior on the front of one of the issues. There were ludicrously overpowered rules for a Necron raiding force, in which the basic Necron warrior was equivalent in power to a Space Marine terminator, these were very fun and very narrative rules! So Necrons got their first rules at the tail end of second edition, but they didn’t get a full range and the proper Codex treatment until third edition.

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    7 ай бұрын

    You are quite right!

  • @Upyours99xs
    @Upyours99xs9 ай бұрын

    You know I was looking at the new plastic Deredeo Dreadnought and I thought to myself, that looks like the chaos Dreadnought from space crusade reimagined if you look at its chest and think that the front head. And now if I ever get one from this game I’m gonna run it as that model and no one can stop me. Or as a Helbrute lol

  • @TheOmiguelion
    @TheOmiguelion Жыл бұрын

    SC was my first contact with the 40K universe. I was 13 at the time and had loved playing Heroquest at my friends house, so when I saw the cool TV it really drew my attention. But the best part is, for some reason the local supermarket priced it wrong, at 1000 or 2000 pesetas (can´t remember) when it was actually over 5000, so my mom agreed to buy it. I remember the walk to the supermarket and back it was over two hours but I couldn´t wait in case they run out or undid the error... I remember being amazed with the components and specially the manuals... I thought "Wow, they really fleshed out the story background for this board game"! My brother and I played a lot and got the expansions in Christmas. Good memories. I loved the blip mechanics, the careful planning of the movement and use of orders and equipment, and was actually disapponited with the rules for 40K once I got to know it. I developed a sort expanded rules to include the rest of the factions and miniature range to play Player VS Player... Nice video, thanks!

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! Love a good discount price almost as much as Space Crusade itself! It really was another time, wasn’t it? So much fun setting up and knocking over all those wonderful components!

  • @kurainoneko2
    @kurainoneko2 Жыл бұрын

    "no time for mummies or zombies in space!!!" *frowns in necron

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Well met! You’re actually dead right, they have both now!

  • @laurentderrien
    @laurentderrien Жыл бұрын

    damn i love your history videos, thanks for those shots of nostalgia I had completely forgotten about battle masters !

  • @hanson666999
    @hanson666999 Жыл бұрын

    Good video. Me, my little brother, and my friends still play Space Crusade fairly often :)

  • @jordansorcery

    @jordansorcery

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! That’s ace, I couldn’t get my brothers to play it with me even once over the past 25 years so I’m jealous!

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