This reminds of those dark ages when Half life 1 was new and a friend of mine got a weird shady, cheap power supply despite everyone telling him not to. Moments later smoke was rising from his tower. Good times.

@conflictingpersonalitiesga5075

7 жыл бұрын

heh

@pesshau6508

7 жыл бұрын

Similar thing happened to a friend of mine around the same period as well. It was a Q-Tec, IIRC.

@agnel47

6 жыл бұрын

I build a budget gaming PC with a Corsair VS450, RIP me.

@HaydenH

5 жыл бұрын

I don't have any other friends that can build a PC.

@AlexFlockhart

5 жыл бұрын

I used to work for a company that serviced camera surveillance PC's, and they would always order the cheapest PSUs they could purchase or even salvage, leading to many fireworks displays and fried motherboards. Don't save pennies on PSUs folks.

I bought a 1200 watt PSU back when SLI and Crossfire were new things. Feels like I am set for life with that.

@dubsy1026

6 жыл бұрын

Zotar SLI was new in 1998 or so. You may want to find something else

@HaydenH

5 жыл бұрын

@@dubsy1026 He probably means when it was popular.

@dubsy1026

5 жыл бұрын

@@HaydenH yeah, but his PSU is apparently still the same from then. Which _might_ become an issue

@HaydenH

5 жыл бұрын

Dubsy 102 I know, but he *meant* when it was popular.

@Samqdf

5 жыл бұрын

providing the capacitors stay good. I bought a high end PSU thining the same thing but I ended up having to replace it

01:31 Ah, I remember wandering into Radio Shack, finding a PS/2 compatible mouse, and saying to myself "there's no *way* this fits a Playstation".

oh no, my psu just died. Oh well, gotta get a new case and rebuild my entire PC from scratch now

@MilankoDebil

4 жыл бұрын

no put new psu in

@MilankoDebil

4 жыл бұрын

@Nick Howley shut the fuck up

@awadafuk4863

3 жыл бұрын

no put new psu in

@HeenaPatel253

3 жыл бұрын

Understandable have a nice day

@SotiriosUR

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, it's cheaper to replace your desk. Your pc should work fine afterward.

Apple logo at 2:47... Shots fired

@raulserrano351

7 жыл бұрын

So true

@Tbonedoesfsx

7 жыл бұрын

wtf is that name

@koeingsegg

7 жыл бұрын

So many shots lol

@wobblysauce

7 жыл бұрын

+

@CaveyMoth

7 жыл бұрын

According to this video, Apple is not a reputable brand.

"With high-end cards getting more and more power efficient..." RTX 3000 series: Well yes, but actually no

@Marchey_

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same thing 😂

@clarkenfixinclunkers6583

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marchey_ the intro didnt age well lol

@mairo5124

2 жыл бұрын

Intel core 11th génération: **bonjour**

@annoyinggasta

2 жыл бұрын

I'm telling you, Ampere will age terribly

@actualrealbozo

2 жыл бұрын

wait until RTX 4000 series, you need 550-650w minimum

2:48 Not mentioning any names...

@teagan_p_999

7 жыл бұрын

*cough cough* apple *cough cough*

@dkamm65

7 жыл бұрын

Did you not notice the giant fucking Apple logo behind while he was saying that?

@jonathancole4078

7 жыл бұрын

you doughnut its sarcasm

@captainconcernedsr.5360

7 жыл бұрын

haha thanks for pointing that out i missed it

@radomiami

4 жыл бұрын

🍎🍏🍎

That apple logo when Linus talks about locking into a brand.

@sethatkins3731

7 жыл бұрын

xD I saw that,

@sUmEgIaMbRuS

6 жыл бұрын

Also, the console gaming scene in a nutshell

@rainragsdale3192

6 жыл бұрын

Loved that

2:48 I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE! XD

@H3c171

7 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@Sinus_Lebastian

7 жыл бұрын

That was beautiful

@the1whoplayz

7 жыл бұрын

Lol I'm watching on a mac

@Bubgun45

7 жыл бұрын

Die Apple Die

@lgndk11r

7 жыл бұрын

Well, that took courage.

Fascinating. From beginning to end. I really wanted to know this.

@wildmonkeymc2380

3 жыл бұрын

Hu

I still use my 700 watt psu since I bought it new back in 2007. Tagan Dual Engine TG700-U25. Built like a tank, well made, it's heavy, has dual 80mm fans and +12V@56A(4 Rails together). Costed around 1500 SEK at the time ~ 150 euros or 160 usd. This PSU doesn't show any sign of giving up anytime soon.

0:26 That Aged well.

lol apple logo at 2:47 ... Subtle

@M4RC3L001

7 жыл бұрын

shots fired...

@turkyandgravy

7 жыл бұрын

Apple isn't the only thing that's proprietary. Sure it's proprietary at the hardware level, but Windows is just as bad as Apple as far as software, if not worse. Just look at secure boot, Microsoft's attempt at locking people into only using their operating system by putting a password on the bios that only Windows can unlock, making devices defective by design.

@fearmemortals

7 жыл бұрын

Haha that subliminal messaging

@shooterboss

7 жыл бұрын

That's a good point, but at the same time Apple is also trying to lock people into their software ecosystem. Mobile app development for iOS, for instance, must be done on a Mac device, and the App Store will ban you if you try using a virtual machine to get around that restriction. Also, Apple ensures that no other manufacturer can legally sell a PC with their operating system installed.

@nonnarbl

7 жыл бұрын

+Ryan Mattox why do you think we've all started to hate Microsoft increasingly more? Given how ubiquitous it is though, it's a necessary evil nowadays.

2:41 - I loved how certain logo appeared in the background.

That dig at apple was gorgeous.

Linus: Quagmire Me: Giggity

@TheSillydude45

7 жыл бұрын

lmao

@MsHojat

7 жыл бұрын

I've always wondered why the heck his name is Quagmire. That is a really dumb name. I assume it was intentional, but I don't like it.

@nobeltnium

6 жыл бұрын

i don't understand :O

@denniswoycheshen

6 жыл бұрын

nobeltnium Giggity..... :O

@burdendmist6543

5 жыл бұрын

Holy shit i was thinking the same thing boi bro.

4:48 folks, remember to keep the gears in your voltage regulator modules lubricated. You wouldn't want them to seize up.

@TheBlueScreenYT

Жыл бұрын

I hadn’t watched to that point so I legit got scared that I was doing everything wrong

@SomethingCool51

Жыл бұрын

My motherboard has a bunch of gears on it (B550 Taichi) thanks for reminding me. Maintenance is key!

You forgot the mention the different types of capacitors that different PSUs use. They really really make a world of a difference.

I miss the power outlet for the monitor in older PSUs, it was quite convenient

3:34 BTX power supplies are actually fully compatible with ATX standard, at least externally and, as far as my experience goes, electrically; any BTX case will fit an ATX power supply, albeit usually only in the prebuilt/old-fashioned orientation at the top of the case, and vice versa. The connectors are also the same. I do know the Dell at least, while manufacturing prebuilts to the BTX standard, did sometimes put their own spin on it by having a locking clip of sorts at the top of the case and a corresponding slot on their power supplies. This would make ATX power supplies fit somewhat awkwardly, and the clip would press against the top of it and leave scratches and dents. Besides this, though, as far as I am aware there was never any substantial difference.

Very cool, I love learning about this stuff! I am just old enough to have exposure to the really old computers... we have come so far!

Ooh

@pythonl0rd584

3 жыл бұрын

4 years and I manage to be the first like somehow

@EpicLokvanji

3 жыл бұрын

@@ungabunga3183 3rd

@TheThouZands

3 жыл бұрын

eh?

We have a HP PC that we wanted to upgrade which also meant using a new case. Not only was the CPU cooler mounted on the case itself but it had a built-in proprietary PSU with very different cables. Even though we supposedly worked the pins out and used the original PSU for a few cables it still didn't boot.

Been building PCs since 1993 and still build retro rigs - Aside from some minor connection differences (single mains vs "black to black" multimain), the ATX standard varies a lot more, with many aux pins here and there, indeed even 20 pin to 24 pin variants. There was no such variety with AT.

Ahhh, the BTX form factor. Crushed my dreams of upgrading my uncles old Dell xps 400. Now I need to build my own. Could be worse.

I recall BTX being the next big thing. I'd love to see a video on what it promised and what happened with it!

I have an IBM-PC 5150. What I found most surprising is that the same exact power cable can be shared between it and my current desktop rig. That must have made at least something easier over the years! :)

I remember changing some of those old at and pre at power supplies. Sometimes you could wind up way down a rabbit hole depending on some of the craps soldered onto the bleeding thing.

Graphics cards are becoming more efficient day by day.... I wish linus knew there would be something coming as the ampere and rdna2 back then

Watched this during my run at the gym, did a mile in 9:52! Thanks Linus!

Watching in 2020 and seeing an Rx 480 being considered high end really put how far computers have come into perspective

so, who else hasn't finished watching the video but got bored and went to the comments😂😂

@magzire

7 жыл бұрын

+capsonjames get bent you toxic waste

@batfan1939

7 жыл бұрын

Guilty.

@bsg2621

7 жыл бұрын

i started looking 4:39

IPC as fast as possible........ still waiting, Luke lied!

@BebinhoXD

7 жыл бұрын

same here

@jorelc6

7 жыл бұрын

no multiplayer Luke ¬¬ ( /s)

@FriedRalion

7 жыл бұрын

Llorch Durden h6

@vyor8837

6 жыл бұрын

The long and short of it is that the "I" in IPC is essentially how many calculators you can use at once. So you have 2 hands, that's two calculators. So that's 2 instructions you can do at once. The "PC" part is "per clock," 1 megahertz is 1 million cycles in a second, 1 gigahertz is 1 billion cycles in a second. So if you run at, say 1 hertz(aka, 1 cycle a second), you could do 2 calculations a second with your calculators. If you ran at 1 megahertz you could do 2 *million* calculations in a second. Modern processors can do a lot more than 2 calculations every clock cycle of course, but there you go.

2017 psu problems: coil whine

@nessotrin

6 жыл бұрын

deggial2005 It's always been there. It's a design defect that cannot be predicted, hardware companies need to redesign those PSU when it happens. Reviews are here to help us with that.

As a PCB designer and electronics technician myself with loads of years of experience, I can tell that you have done some good research, although there is much more once can say. But very good job... thumbs up.

really good techquicki subject after a long time.

I just love standards. There's so many to choose from!

@chickywilly

3 жыл бұрын

LOL! 😂

@cantchange901

2 жыл бұрын

Damn professionals always hoarding standards

@1pcfred

2 жыл бұрын

@@cantchange901 free the specs!

I don't know how you made a video about the history of PSUs interesting, but you did. Good job man

Such old Linus video. Love the sunburn. The content us good. Thank you

I remember having and using at school old ibm beige boxes that ran dos and had a hard on off switch and a printer with a long ream of perforated folded paper with tear away edges.

0:31 That did not age well!

LOVe the apple logo hint in the background !!! :D

Ty for bringing up the old 20 pin pcs connector. I rememver when the connector vegan to shift in this direction some psus had 20 and others had 20 with a 4 pin addapter to support the newer pcbs at that time. I had to run out and buy a replacment one time because my old psu was a 20 pin

Still remember my ace raw 520W.. burning love for that one..

nice apple logo about the trapping section 🖒🖒🖒🖒

2:46 cough cough apple cough cough

Linus always tech us how to be a great geek

A challenge for Techquickie Explain how VRM's work.

upscaled 4k vs native 4k

@paianis

7 жыл бұрын

Obviously native 4k is better.

Should I mention the Apple logo just as everyone else has for the likes?

@John-doe955

5 жыл бұрын

Joshua Rando yes.

@ezra1369

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely

thanks linus this is very informative

Let's not forget the period where Dell had PSU's made with incompatible pinouts on the ATX connector just for them.

Last time I was early, There was still a 301 views club

@Girl_In_Bread

7 жыл бұрын

haha

@aleckaplan16

7 жыл бұрын

+Spoder News dicks out

what about SATA power :< ?

Linus, do a video on the differences of single +12V rail and 2 +12V rails/multi +12Vrails. If I remember right I think the single +12V rail is the best, from what I remember back when building my rig.

Very informative, thank you!

I watched the entire video already.

@zar_un

7 жыл бұрын

+SpiralArc Linus uploads videos 7 days earlier on Vessel. So it's not impossible

@CutoutClips

7 жыл бұрын

I didn't even realize I was that early until I read this comment :P

@aujla7564

7 жыл бұрын

+SpiralArc he uploaded it to pornhub earlier

@xkmto

7 жыл бұрын

logic does fail though, evidently.

How are you here and at PAX, at the same time?

@swerve248

7 жыл бұрын

Linus is illuminati confirmed

@bolosantosi5398

7 жыл бұрын

+Ajinkya Pathania I know, I was just playing

@FreshLlamanade

7 жыл бұрын

+Ajinkya Pathania you must be fun at parties

@ParalipsiSebring

7 жыл бұрын

+I'm Batman weaving spiders come not here

a history of techquickie as fast as possible

I got me a mini-ITX build with an SFX. I'm still blown away by how tiny it is.

Like the Apple logo when u we're talking about Apple

2:47 - Hahahaha, be careful Linus, you have some shit behind you all of a sudden XD (that editing was brilliant, props who to whoever did that)

Oh god, this brought back so many nightmares back in the day.

I have had the same Antec 650w PSU for a decade now. super stable.

Why was the apple logo in the background for a bit 2:47

@andrewb1870

7 жыл бұрын

Listen to what he's saying

@RedDaLord

7 жыл бұрын

subliminal advertising!!!1!

@teagan_p_999

7 жыл бұрын

Cause Apple is proprietary-land.

@Breakfast221

7 жыл бұрын

Apple is guilty of doing exactly what he was saying.

@WAQWBrentwood

7 жыл бұрын

+Redda Actually it's a subliminal "diss" - pointing up Apple's love of proprietary hardware.

Graphics cards are getting more and more power efficient. Mmmmmm 🤣

Many thanks for this video

2:51 I love the apple shadow in the background.

2:45 Apple! Do You Hear?

@sethatkins3731

7 жыл бұрын

xD

Damn apple got called out at 2:47.

Actually i remeber the AT standard from when i was a teenager. It had 2 connectors which where only able in one arrangement to be plugged into the board. Back then i've seen a couple of boards as well as PSUs and they all where pretty much standardized. The most notable difference to ATX was the removal of power switches (beside the 20+4 pin connector) which led to supply standby 5v for the onboard soft switches and features like power on modem or power on ethernet.

Very informative, thank you

I have no interest or use for this information, but yet I watch this and other similar Linus videos all the time. What is wrong with me?

To the tech quickie video editor: Please stop showing illustrations of what he's talking about BEFORE he talks about it, its basically adding subtitles that are ahead of the video, it does not work well.

@RetroPillowcase

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a you problem

@ZaHandle

2 жыл бұрын

You’re supposed to do that with the pictures and subtitles…

Tech Quickie Video idea! The evolution of multicore processors...in case there isn't already a video on it.

Amazing!! Thank you!!

when will apple move to ATX?.... #NEVER

That subtle Apple logo.

Hey linus, i always wondered why dont they make the 24pin a right angle connector on motherboards? seems like it would make that cable much cleaner

Thank you Linus, very cool.

LOL That Apple logo though

2:21 that guy is putting a cpu cooler where the psu goes....BOI! and also crap cable management.

@DingoLeDingue

7 жыл бұрын

no he is not, he is installing it on the motherboard laying in front of him (you can see the ram slots). Though the cable management is indeed crap

@rev_dude

7 жыл бұрын

Oh..upon further inspection, you are right. But y would u need 2 motherboards...

@ultraintent7864

6 жыл бұрын

Rev_dude stock photo man

I love this channel

Very interesting...thank you.

Exploding samsung devices as fast as possible xD

Who is watching it in 2019?

another great video as always dad

There was the P8 P9 before atx which was pretty standard but two identical connectors that plugged in next to each other and if you got them the wrong way round you were in trouble

Oh, look. Free markets don't need government regulation for standards to exist.

@sparky663

7 жыл бұрын

top kek m9

@atlas8827

7 жыл бұрын

You fucking muppet.

@CocoaNutTF2

7 жыл бұрын

***** So someone with the flag of Brazil has come to explain to me how great government-controlled markets are. This is unbelievably hilarious.

@bipbong2906

7 жыл бұрын

Harambe will relive

@atlas8827

7 жыл бұрын

***** Oh sweetheart, the brazillian government is bad, but it definitely beats having no government at all.

What you said about AT supplies was pretty much all BS. Meh.

@Dxceor2486

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've AT PCs and : - All of them have the same pinout - All of the PSUs are the same size I've never seen an AT PSU with a different form factor. Not that they don't exist but if they do, they must be very rare

@alexatkin

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly, AT IS a standard, just as ATX is another. Heck, ATX PSUs aren't as simple as made out here as there are many generations/revisions when it comes to how the voltage lines are designed to be loaded. During the early Athlon years there were problems with PSUs dying because Intel had moved the CPU regulators onto the 12V line and ATX was revised around that, but Athlon still relied on the 5V. It wasn't always immediately obvious which version of PSU you were buying so you could end up overloading the 5V lines, which at the time most PSUs had poor or no overload protection so would just fry.

@losttownstreet3409

6 жыл бұрын

In the early AT world where soldering skills pretty much standard: older motherboards had sockets and emtpy location where you could upgrade your SRAM, DRAM, .... Now you had a 6-10 Layer motherboard with 0204 Chips. SOP's are now the bigger Chips. With AT the design was one PSU and not many regulators on the Motherboard. Now you didn't use one big flyback but many buck and boost converters on the motherbords and in the processors itself. Try now to build a low grade motherboard and you are getting in a lot of power delivery problems you had to solve. Back in the AT-world you connect the right rail from the PSU.

Any video on the history of power supplies that also focuses on the electronics and circuits of it?

Voltage (there's no -age equivalent): the amount of "oomph" each charge has Current or amperage: the amount of charge going through a particular point in a wire per second Power or wattage: how much "oomph" is being delivered or used per second, calculated as voltage times current Therefore, 10 watts could be either 10V * 1A or 1V * 10A. Please let me be not the only one who understands this...

@atlas8827

7 жыл бұрын

No, you are not the only one who understands high school physics.

@kostasch5686

7 жыл бұрын

"laughs in electrical engineering"

@michielappeldoorn3657

7 жыл бұрын

+Guilherme Eduardo Carvalho not high school for me

@il2xbox

7 жыл бұрын

"Voltage (there's no -age equivalent)"... that's because voltage is the "-age equivalent" of electrical potential. Do you even physics, bro?

@ganaraminukshuk0

7 жыл бұрын

I took an entire physics course and got obsessed with the thing; how did I miss that?!

I bought a EVGA psu for my Ryzen rig back in late 2017 and I was planning on keeping a case that I had been using for a few years but I ended up buying a new case because the psu was too wide for the case.

Back in the 90s, Dell used a proprietary 20 pin connector. It had all the same wires as an ATX, just in a different order with a different keyed connector.

I overdid it with my PSU. I ebay - sourced an unused open-box 750 Watt 80+ Platinum for my home server, plugged it up, and was very pleased by the noise level. Then I hooked up the system to the UPS and queried the UPS and the UPS said "ya, you're drawin' 47 Watts at the wall dude". Well... at least its efficient.

There needs to be a new standard, the connectors are so big considering how much power they give. USB-C gives up to 150W of power, which is equivelant to an 8-pin which is much larger in physical size compared to type-c

The fun thing about those IBM XT computers you mentioned, they need a 60w power draw or the system wont power on (it's at least true for my IBM XT 286).

You can still buy AT power supplies brand new. They're used in a lot industrial automation stuff, which means they're still needed by businesses for various purposes. Side effect? You can still buy them. Worth knowing if you are into retro computing. (the one I came across was a 300 watt brand new AT power supply - more than enough for nearly any system that could even make use of one... The internal construction may well be closer to modern power supplies, but that really doesn't matter...)

Future power supplies should learn a lesson from the AT power supplies with their long-throw hard on/off toggle switches. Old rigs from 1984-1996 lacked the 5V standby rail and the toggle switch is before the bridge rectifier, consuming no power while turned off. My idea for future power buttons is a mix of old and new, with the short-throw acting like any ATX power button, used for waking the machine up and commanding the OS to shut down. This new hybrid power button design features a long-throw toggle switch located before the bridge rectifier on the PSU's circuit schematic. When you shut down your machine with the hybrid power button, the toggle switch is automatically toggled off to eliminate standby power consumption.

to be honest i like that everything was fully on or off at the time, when my psu is on standby the coil whining is so annoying, id rather have it shut off fully