Made a mistake in the video where I call the Dacians a branch of the Illyrians, but they are actually a branch of the Thracians. My apologies for such a blunder. I have now edited that part out for my own sanity.

@zagrepcanin82

2 жыл бұрын

If i am not mistaken you as Lemko and Boyko still to this days say for yourselves to be White Croats. Pozdrav brate iz Hrvatske

I am rusyn, was brought up as rusyn. This is so great for our background and history thank you

well done- you remembered the carpathian jews who numbered around 180000

@19ICXC93

Ай бұрын

Jews no longer exist but ok

This is all so very interesting! I hope you will continue to make more videos, perhaps one that goes in depth into all of the different segments you included in this video. I'd love to learn more about the earliest groups who came across the region as well as daily life for the Rusyns in the 1800s!

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

I'll probably do something like that in the future. Think people would be interested in the medieval era stuff especially. Thanks for watching!

Loved it!

One of my favorite of your videos. Super interesting how this area was the sight of lots of battles.

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

Much thanks my guy. This video took too damn long to make.

these videos are well done, I look forward to more in depth

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Janet! It's much appreciated.

I’m ready to see more and learn more about this 😌👏🏼

This is particularly interesting to me as a Rusyn/Polish/Croatian-American. Since learning about White Croats, and having had a Rusyn & Croatian grandparent, I've always wondered about the connection between the Rusyns and Croatians. Thanks for this easily understandable video history.

I love your presentation style; it's easy for me to follow along.

I'm pretty sure this is not even half of the story, but rather a skeleton. Keep up with videos, my friend! :)

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

Perhaps I will do a full scale 1 hour lecture some day 😄. Thank you my friend.

@myhal-k

3 жыл бұрын

@@lemkowithhistory migrations of people didn't stopped at the WWII. In Midwest time there was a huge shift as well: lots of Rusyns migrated westwards, crossed the ocean, while different people came in from the East. And also Subcarpathia was depopulated after the war, so Soviet Union brought tons of people in here, they made a major part of Uzžorod and Mukačevo since then. This place changed a lot during the recent 75 years! This period of time deserves the video of it's own I believe

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

That's an excellent idea, I might just do that. Should be longer than a 13 minute video I think.

A long video what a treat!

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

I thought people would enjoy a longer one ;)

Great video! I hadn't ever been aware of Vlachs migrating as north as the present Slovakian territories or Poland. Have heard about them in Moravia tho which is further West.

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it is really interesting, especially how much culture and ancestry comes from them in regards to Rusyns.

Lots of great information here that touches upon a wide range of topics and historical eras. Could you please list your sources? I'd love to look into these topics more deeply

I loved this one! And those old photos are 😍. How did you find them?

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

Podkarpatska Rus on Instagram, check them out.

Super comprehensive historical account of our people! Really well done! Would love to see a video on the Holodomor and its effects (if any) on Rusyns/Ruthenia or even the Ruthenian national movement of the time.

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! In regards to Rusyns and the Holodomor, Subcarpathian Rus' was still part of Czechoslovakia during the interwar period (with the Holodomor happening in 1932-33) so we were able to completely avoid it. Eastern Galicia and Volhynia were also able to avoid it as well being part of Poland at the time. I'll certainly do some digging though to see if there was any data on Ukrainians fleeing to Zakarpattia because of the famine. Link to a map that perhaps you'd like which shows the oblasts that were most effected and also the areas not part of Ukraine at the time. en.gariwo.net/iV3/holodomor_mappa_EN.png

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

@Dimitrij Fedorov I agree it's a little peculiar, but pretty sure it shows the damage of the Holodomor on all "current" Ukrainian oblasts so to speak. Hence it including *southern* Odessa and Crimea even though they weren't part of Soviet Ukraine back then.

@MariaSilvestri

3 жыл бұрын

>Would love to see a video on the Holodomor and its effects (if any) on Rusyns/Ruthenia or even the Ruthenian national movement of the time That'd be a really short video, since there was none - Carpatho-Rusyns weren't part of anything associated with Ukraine until 1946. Yes, some Ukrainians came into Subcarpathia during the interwar period (and/or were encouraged to do so by the Czechs), but they arguably caused more problems than they helped to solve.

nice general overview but where are various groups of the Romani people who still live in Transcarpathia today?

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

They are scattered throughout the region. Most of the Romani in Subcarpathia are very similar culturally to the ones in Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, etc. This is mostly due to all of the regions being part of one kingdom for nearly a thousand years.

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly I don't know the exact areas that are the highest if that's your question. But Zakarpattia has the highest % of Romani of any Oblast.

Another good video 👍

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Much appreciated as always.

Thank you for these videos. I am also looking for Rusyns who were also sabbath keepers. I don't know if they were Jewish ir I have heard it was a group that existed long ago. My grandfather made mention but as a child, i was uninteresed. :(

Can you give a more detailed history of Ungvar in the late 19th century as to it's population and demographics?

I usually dont comment on videos but this was really interesting!! Do you have a university background?

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I have a university background, but not like a graduate student or proffesor.

Video editing is getting better

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

I'm trying, think it's getting better bit by bit.

My grandparents came from a Tatry village called Zavadka. Is that Rusin?

My great grandparents migrated to the wilkes barre pa area in the 1890s to work the coal mines. They were rusyns. My father would have enjoyed this content.

This completely explained my DNA results...thank you!

@lemkowithhistory

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

A good comprehensive video, indeed. Anyway, Dacians were part of Thracians, not Illyrians. And why have I missed any mentioning of the Great Moravia empire ?

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

That was a total blunder, don't know why I said Illyrians and not Thracians. Thanks for catching it.

Karpatho-Rutnenians not Russian and not ukranians!! Най Живуть Руснаци!!! ☝️☝️☝️❤️❤️❤️❤️

greeting to rusyn brothers from hungary!this two nation are indigenous to subcarpathia!

These are all lies. That is the land of Ruthenians and the country was Ruthenians under various occupations. Why are calling them Russ? It is Subcarpathian Ruthenians.

My family took DNA tests which showed Romanian and a trace of Mongolian in our Rusyn bloodline.

what is lemkowithhistory's connection to the russian state?

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

Zero, none.

@peterboth6785

3 жыл бұрын

@@lemkowithhistory Well, I find it strange then that all my comments, which were not off-topic mind you, but had a dissenting component regarding Putin had disappeared from the comment section (or the answer to V. Skala). Also the fact that a channel with 2.1 K subs pays advertisement on soc. media does not spark confidence. I would like to support the Rusyns (and not this fake lemko, boyko, dolane, hucul division - which all my Rusyn friends reject) but not by supporting Moskal imperialism.

@peterboth6785

3 жыл бұрын

ok. i have reposted them... also i do not want do jump to conclusions. i just voiced my concerns. I'll keep following and see how things go. best of luck to decent people!

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterboth6785 Peter, I spend like $10 a week on facebook for my videos. Not a whole lot haha. And when did you post your comments before? I can check the spam folder but I don't delete comments unless they're rude or accusatory.

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterboth6785 I see this one from 2 hours ago still imgur.com/BEzeXz4

No goths? Gepids?

Kárpátalja forever Hungary!!!

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

Well technically no but kinda of yes since Rusyns and Hungarians have lived in peace for 1000 years. Even today Rusyns and Hungarians get along well.

3 жыл бұрын

So nostalgia... Let's jut not ignore the fact that pre-Trianon Hungary had been an ethnically mixed post-feudal country, and also, no matter how hard or nobles had been trying, a province of the Habsburg Empire. It'd be high time for us to realise that our true and independent historic greatness lasted only about 600 years from the founding of the state until the Ottoman invasion and the coming of the first Habsburg kings and we are just a small Central-European nation that had better a., learn and respect our former minorities, and present day neighbours' culture and history, and also, maybe a tad bit of their language... b., fucking stop claiming their territory back all the time as "ours". The treaty of Trianon was unquestionably misfortunate and pretty unjust to the Hungarians, but no matter how loyal the Rusyns had always been to the Crown of Hungary, largely because their areas had always been poor as hell and very remote, we should really, really start acknowledging their right for their own lands, language, culture and autonomy. They'd deserve it just as much as our Székely (Secler) fellows in Transylvania. Dammit.

@ionbrad6753

6 ай бұрын

OK, but which Hungary? Magna Hungaria? Etelkoz? Other?

We are so very different from slovaks even if they hate to admit it

@cyndagomano4149

3 жыл бұрын

@Dimitrij Fedorov They tolerate rusyns nothing more than that.

@peterboth6785

3 жыл бұрын

​@Dimitrij Fedorov maybe like Russian state tolerance towards ethnic minorities (e.g. Crimean Tatars) or sexual minorities for that matter... well, that kind of tolerance is what Rusyns can look forward to. They are more "tolerated" than Hungarians, that's for sure, but boy, have some requests for rights and Rusyns will suddenly become enemy No.1... Btw, it was Soviet Russia's imperative to convince the Rusyns that they are Ukrainians and in Slovakia they were forced to learn Ukrainian instead of Rusyn. Same strategy employed by the Russians to first uplift Ukrainian culture in order to get them out of Polish hands and then later killing all the Ukrainian intelectuals. Just to bring some examples you might be familiar with.

@peterboth6785

3 жыл бұрын

do you see fundamental differences though? if yes, what?

@peterboth6785

3 жыл бұрын

@Dimitrij Fedorov "From what I can see, Rusyn community in SK is well integrated, and does not represent any threat to the Slovak society at large." yep, you are a good one if you assimilate.

@Tomas-qe6gc

2 жыл бұрын

Well, as a Slovak I think you guys are different nation. You speak different language, have different traditions and even religion. I feel closer to Czechs and Polish, but I do think Rusyns living in Slovakia are nice people😊

Dr Evgenij Puščenko said when arrived to Zagreb to hold lecture about White Croatia....I am first White Croat,then Rusyn and then Ukranian. I am researching our history for almost 20y now and not only that once White Croatia existed but there was Great Croatia and also Black Red and Green Croatia. At one point of time 3 Croatian states existed in Europe. If Putin thinks he can conquer Ukraine he is so very much wrong. Same blood is in Ukrainians and us Croats and we have never lost a war!!! If he believes he has historical background for claiming Ukraine he is wrong again....we controled area all the way to Moscow.Long before other so called "slavic" nationes were formed! Croats founded both Kyiv and Krakow which has served as capital of White Croatia! Russian scientist proved that. So Putin HAND OFF UKRAINE! Soborna Ukrajinska je derzava odna navil vid Sjanu po Kavkaz! Slava Ukrajini!

You want to know about "white" croats? Let a croat inform you about our heritage. 1. ~350-562AD the establishment and golden age of Horvatiya of western ukraine, southeastern poland and eastern slovakia. The rulers were alanic people known as Horvats while the main population was a people very close to what we today know as lithuanians. In this period proto-slavic happend and influenced these "baltic" people with the alan language. 2. 562 the avars enter the verecke pass and destroy Horvatiya which causes the new slavic people to scatter crazily all over eastern europe. The alans are slavicized and many are dragged as slaves and warriors to pannonia and the balkans (especially nothern croatia). The very close dulebes have the same fate. But some of them establish a new Horvatiya in eastern (Horvats who from then on call themselves Harvats) and southern (dulebes) bohemia. 3. ~630AD These people are together with the sorbs (also alan ethonym) invited by greeks to liberate the roman province (important distinction!) of dalmatia from raiding avars and slavs in exchange for the land they liberate. From this point on they call eastern bohemia "white croatia" (distinguishment) as white means north and it is directly north of their new main settlement area (northern dalmatia) unlike subcarpathia. 4. At this point we have many Horvatian enclaves all over eastern europe from which only the newest (croatia) survives ethnic consolidations. The slavnikovics in bohemia, laborec of subcarpathia and some croats integrated by vladimir the great and even more enclaves around moscow, carinthia etc. 5. The mojmirids of greater moravia were also alans. The polish and germans gang up on bohemia (which as a successor of greater moravia controlled silesia) and sorbia. The polish kingdom rises, the hungarian kingdom rises, the rus khaganate rises and in the middle only the cherven gords are left off as a sign of old core Horvatiya which will from now on remain a disputed borderregion claimed by nations who have to this day not full legitimacy to rule this land and people. This is why coastal croats call themselves Harvats while northerners call themselves Horvats. The legend of leh, čeh and meh (rus was added later and didnt even exist at the time) originates in 562. You should take a closer look at the czech version of the legend. Slava rusinima! Čuvajte kulturu i staru slovinsku pravdu svog narodnog prostora!

@nvanguy6868

2 жыл бұрын

Can you tell Me Where did you read all of this information? I would like to read up more

@TheDovahkiin97

2 жыл бұрын

@@nvanguy6868 waaaay too many sources. Maybe you can start with "Velikaya Horvatiya" from Alexandar Mayorov

@TheDovahkiin97

Жыл бұрын

@Mila The Driller Rusini nisu "Bijeli Hrvati" nego recimo "Veliki Harvati" dok su dobar dio Čeha porijeklom "Bijeli Harvati". I istina je da se u Ukrajini ne dozvoljava Rusinima da budu zaseban narod. Šteta je velika... A odakle si ti? Amerika?

Smoke a blunt for our lost brothas

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

You are so strange smh.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomerania

5:00 Words Ancient and Slovaks on the same map hmm

@AHOSE97HuN

3 жыл бұрын

definitely

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

@@AHOSE97HuN The image is cutoff and I think the word ancient went with some other tribe in Pannonia on the picture. You are correct though in that there was no "slovak" tribe as there was Rus or Poles etc.

@AHOSE97HuN

3 жыл бұрын

@Dimitrij Fedorov I referred that that time Slovaks didnt exist. It is historically incorrect. Just like If I would say that Genghis Khan conquered the Soviet Union.

@m.p.6573

3 жыл бұрын

Well there is evidence pointing to the fact that the slavic tribes came to the lands of slovakia around 650-800. So the people that now call themselves Slovaks were living here since around 850 during the establishment of the duchy of Nitra. So I would say that the Slovaks are pretty acient or atleast have been here for a long time. EDIT: Spelling and improved some words

@AHOSE97HuN

3 жыл бұрын

@Dimitrij Fedorov I fully understand what you mean. Magyar comes from a tribe name but other nations call us Hungarians, Ungarn, Vengri etc. Ancestors of Hungarians/Magyars, who were mostly Scythians based on the latest DNA and archeological researches lived in Eastern Europe many thousands years ago, still it would be false to make a map of 3000 BC and showing East Europe as Hungarian/Magyar. It is an interesting question, if Hungary never existed, how would these Slavs call themselves now? Maybe Czechs if their history would have been connect them to Moravia. Or maybe Poles if Poland conquered this land? Or else. I never denied the existence of Rusyns (or any other nation I know somewhat), moreover if Im speaking about the topic with someone I tell him/her about Rusyns. I even sympathize with them because they were loyal residents of the Kingdom of Hungary and I think our history has much in common :)

Hello. I dont understand a thing. You called us vlachs as a migrated group in Transcarpathia, even if there are still important vlach communities(romanian and voloch/vlach, at an unclear known number) and we had semi-authonomous states in the region at least since the 13 century, plus the vlachs of Podolia mentioned in Kieven Rus Chronicles in 10th century), but you say that tha slavs, a clear migratory population, as being native. There were some waves of vlach migrations towards present day Moravia and Podhale but we, vlachs, were and are the native population of Transcarpathia. Look at most people phisionomy. They dont look like genuine slavs from Polesie, south Mazuria, Smolensk...

You mean Carpathian Ukraine?

@lemkowithhistory

3 жыл бұрын

How about no?

They are Romanians who were assimilated by slaves in time

There is not such a thing as Subcarpathian Rus. Ruthenia and Ruthenians. Why is Ukraine reinventing the history to favour occupation?

I call bullshit on the video. That Ilona historian recites this "scientific" mantra of Vlach migration into their "territories". Bullshit. These are indigeneous Romance speakers, the Dacians, Carpians. These at some point get slavicized and the current "Slavs" recite the mantra. No it is not indiscutable that these people are East Slavic😁The narrator keeps telling about the Huns, Avars and God knows who else, who brought Slavs into those lands that forgets about those who was there already. Slavic Urheimat is further north. Vlach as Romance speaker was already there in the form of Carpian ancestry. It is not controversial that Boykos, Hutsuls and Lemkos are included to the Vlach ethnic group, what's cotnroversial is their inclusion to the Slavs. But this is settled nowadays. They are Slavs now.