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This video explains perfectly why I enjoyed Bridgerton and cringed at The Buccaneers

@TheKrazysexykool

2 ай бұрын

It was ghastly. It also didn't help that "The Gilded Age" aired about the same time. Those unmarried women spent too much time alone with unmarried men which would have been ruinous enough in itself. The costumes were also abysmal.

@Leo-gy7we

2 ай бұрын

Not Bridgerton romanticizing non conceptual relationships and trivializing male rape? I'm slightly disturbed..

THANK YOU. Yes! The Buccaneers feels more like a modern story, with modern characters that they put in fancy clothes XD At least, Birdgerton kept the rules and etiquette of polite society, and THAT makes the drama and gives the show's world building more depth.

**Title question.** *Actual answer in short ::* Because while people don’t expect and don’t look for a documentary or history lesson details in a work of fiction, they do want some actual universally-known historical bases and references in the background (which are completely lacking in The Buccaneers).

Another reason why Bridgerton is successful because of the timing. It was released during pandemic that all people were watching in their house. Plus the production and soundtrack.

@chykim1

4 ай бұрын

It was also entertaining and well written

Bridgerton is more historical fantasy

This video perfectly summed up why Bridgerton's brand of historical fantasy worked so well for me compared to The Buccaneers. I still enjoyed both, but definitely preferred Bridgerton.

Downton Abbey & Bridgerton are the chocolate box treat of the Edwardian era and the Regency era respectively ❤

@bunnierabbits6517

5 ай бұрын

Downton Abbey is set after the Edwardian era.

@Leo-gy7we

2 ай бұрын

Bridgerton Really? LOL 🤣

I feel like they were going for something similar to Dickinson (both Apple TV), but Dickinson only worked because they fully committed to how outrageous it was. Buccaneers is just on sitting on the fence between the real and surreal

I haven't even seen the Buccaneers, but I could tell from the trailer that it would be exactly as described in this video. A modern teen drama vaguely placed somewhere in the past being vastly inconsistent about the balance of historical accuracy and storytelling. To be honest, Reign started out that way, too. The first season felt like Gossip Girl without the phones. And they made the conscious decision NOT to have the costumes be historically accurate, so they would have more flexibility in using costumes as a character development tool. (Plus men's fashion in that time was decidedly unsexy. Codpieces, anyone?) But then the writers kind of got stuck with having to deal with what happened in history to the real Mary Queen of Scots, so it went through a massive shift, getting super dark like Game of Thrones. So I do think it was better than The Buccaneers, but it still had some serious issues with inconsistency. Bridgerton, on the other hand, is successful because it consciously breaks from historical accuracy in a consistent way. It's setting isn't jostled around based on whatever mood the writers were in that day. My biggest complaint is the costumes of the first season. Behind-the-scenes stuff reveal that the costumes were a HUGE undertaking for the show because everyone was custom-fit. So why do none of the younger ladies' gowns fit? The empire waist hem is supposed to be below the bust to accent a woman's breasts, but for some reason the costumes have the hem going across the breasts, making them look smaller and making the young women look shapeless, when they are supposedly trying to make themselves look as appealing as possible to attract a husband. (Look at Daphne at 1:50 and 2:20. It also happens to Penelope a lot.) Meanwhile, the older ladies, Lady Bridgerton and Lady Danbury, look stunning in gowns that actually fit. Maybe that was deliberate, to show how these younger ladies are still trying to find how they "fit" into society (pun intended), but I think it was inconsistent with the younger ladies' goals for them to be wearing unflattering clothes. Fortunately, the second season fixed it. The now Duchess and mother Daphne is wearing gowns that fit, but so are the single ladies, Eloise, Kate, and Edwina. Only Penelope has costume issues in the sense that her clothes aren't very flattering, but at least they fit. Since she's still supposed to be in her awkward, not-fitting-in stage, that works. Photos released from season 3 show that her wardrobe is totally redone to be flattering because she'll be the leading lady of that season. I just think it's sad that Daphne's clothes looked wrong in HER season. But even my issue with Bridgerton works better than these other shows because there does seem to be an in-universe explanation, even if I don't think it's a very good one. Unlike the Buccaneers or Netflix's Persuasion, that seem to think that throwing a bunch of historical elements at the screen with some beautiful actors is enough to make a good period drama. Interestingly, though, if you've actually read any of Jane Austen's novels, you know that she avoids giving years or titles in her stories (Pride and Prejudice refers to Darcy's uncle as the "Earl of ---" and the year as "18---.") She probably did that so that it could be placed in any setting, but she didn't know that things like an inheritance being entailed away to a distant male cousin would become a thing of the past. Or that today's society really wouldn't care that Lydia ran away with Wickham. I mean, it would provide gossip, but it wouldn't completely destroy the whole family's reputation. But injustice, double standards, family expectations, selfish family members, etc. ARE timeless concepts, which is why her books still feel real and applicable today.

It feels like the Buccaneers is a “fish out of water” tale without the water.

I absolutely loved the free-spirited rebellious vibe of the Buccanners! 💙 Bridgerton felt a little too rawnchy for me but that's just my subjective opinion.

@Kenzalina_

28 күн бұрын

Thank you! I actually prefer the Buccaneers. It is Edith Wharton’s unfinished novel. Which allows for a very grounded version of the Gilded Age, that allows modern writers room to play. The whole point of the book and adaptation, is they start as very young idealized girls, and grow into women in the process. I feel like whoever wrote this didn’t watch the entire season.

@ruthsaunders9507

9 күн бұрын

@@Kenzalina_ The 1995 version is wonderful. This ultra modern one is something else.

@Kenzalina_

9 күн бұрын

@@ruthsaunders9507 I grew up on that one. So it’s my favorite. 💗

I got really annoyed with the way Conchita was portrayed. She was way too modern in her language, her behavior etc. A fail from the director and the casting director, I’m sure, but it took away from the promising story.

I recently just finished the first season of the Buccaneers. It was incredibly cringey and although again I'm sure they were going for historical fantasy, a lot of the liberties they took just don't immerse you as well as Bridgerton does. It's incredibly distracting. It also just didn't help that the central character of the Buccaneers is just so unlikeable.

I wanted to like Buccaneers but it was too much, Conchita was annoying

The 1995 'Buccaneers' was vastly better than the 2023 mess. It would be a better comparison in tone, history and character creation to 'Bridgerton.' Also, better acting. Mira Sorvino played Conchita with an accent, wit and just right touch of rebellion.

@jo6731

6 ай бұрын

The 1995 one was great all around.

@Himmiefan

5 ай бұрын

Oh hes, the 1995 version had much more class than this recent version.

Anyone seen Sanditon? It was excellent

@LouiseAndersen1991

6 ай бұрын

I have and I enjoy it immensely. It had just the right touch of moderness and the classic of Jane Austen. Also our heroine is not too modern. It also ended just right.

@luisecawthorne1025

6 ай бұрын

@@LouiseAndersen1991 I found that too, because as much as Austen is classic, after Pride and Prejudice they’re a bit formulaic, and always with a neat resolution. I haven’t seen the 2nd series yet, but the atypical ending, which didn’t have the male character in a stereotypical role was very satisfying

@LouiseAndersen1991

6 ай бұрын

It actually got better in season 2 and peaked (in a way) in series three. This is minor spoiler, but it´s discovered in the the very first episode of the second series, so here it goes: Sydney Parker dies between series two and three and that paves the way for a new romance with a new male figure. It also gives us a subtle hint (which is later confirmed) that one of the main charecters is gay, but it is not overdone like we see it in todays series@@luisecawthorne1025

Another difference is who is behind the camera: For Bridgerton its Shonda Rhimes who is behind hit show after hit show. Greys Anatomy, the Practice, Scandal and now Bridgerton of course. And who is behind "the Buccaneers"

haven't watched either series, but yes a historical anachronism can make or break a period drama. Bridgerton plays on the rumours that Queen Charlotte may have been bi-racial or mixed-race. While the real life Queen did still "pass for white", there was no evidence to prove or disprove her heritage, Bridgerton went in the opposite direction and explored a "what if she was 100% black" scenario. In this case, the anachronism isn't the idea that Queen Charlotte and her family were black, it's the idea of a fully integrated high-class British society (which was notoriously racist back in those years). The Buccaneers seem to be taking the Baz Luhrman "Romeo & Juliette" route (the film is set in modern times, but the dialog is lifted straight from Shakespeare's play). But in this case it's the other way around.

Bridgerton is very reminiscent of those fantasy romance manhwas and I think that's why I find it so endearing

I don't watch neither of these series, but still, it was a nice top. Thanks , Emely, and a happy wednesday afternoon to you as well. Take care and God bless you, and greetings from Colombia.

I personally haven't watched The Buccaneers, but I love Bridgerton! I have also been watching The Guilded Age, too! And love it!

This. Thanks for helping me to process this. I just finished waIching Buccaneers (as a attempt to deal with withdrawal from "The Gilded Age". 've been trying to put my finger on why TGA, Downton Abbey and Bridgerton work and Buccaneers didn't. I think you nailed it.

"solid period design" and world building/setting seems to be the key. Which makes sense, since that's basically the foundation, firmly placing the story--and the audience--in a specific time and place. Then, individual inaccuracies can branch from there, and work in context with the more accurate setting and design.

I managed to finish watching "The Buccaneers" just to look at the nice costumes and beautiful estates....that's it! The rest is so BAD!

Big thing that jumps out in my mind is Benedict and Sophie’s story. He has to sacrifice his life in London to marry her because she’s illegitimate and gladly does so because she’s worth far more to him. I think it’s one of the reasons they’re my favourite couple in the Bridgerton series.

I haven’t seen buccaneers but from the clips I think the vocal delivery of dialog sounds too modern and that throws me off. But honestly sometimes when I see period pieces with Americans I think the accents sound forced..I think it’s because I’m used to seeing period pieces with Brits

I didn't like the the fact the Buccaneers series in 2023 so far from what really happened, the series made in 1995 was better and closer to the book

That’s what I hate in so many period dramas nowadays. When watching a period drama I don’t want to just see hot people of today in period costumes talking in a posh accent. I want be able to peak through that era with what I’m watching. I want to see a classic take with stories, people and social constructs as they would be in that period. I can understand bending the rules if it’s a fictional world inspired by the real one and it’s set in a different period, there are no constraints there if it’s established that it’s a fictional world, but when it’s the real one I care about accuracy on every aspect. Historical realism is important.

I don’t like the acting in Bucaneers. Also their accents and it just feels so modren

Casting Aubri Ibrag is the best thing that happened in The Buccaneers

I liked the beauty of the beccaneers, but i got annoyed at some of the character’s behaviour and what they said. More so the love triangle was… weird

I enjoy listening to your voice ..

i wanted to like the buccaneers but some things about it felt like it didn’t even want to be in the period drama genre. i also found it weird how it felt like it was pandering to americans and trying to portray the americans as the land of the free who are going to the land of the suppressed. like it was trying to say usa is better than uk when really its just different idk 🤷‍♀️ like i like bridgerton and i like the gilded age which show both countries but this one really doesn’t work for me. i did like some of the characters and story lines but overall i wasn’t really feeling it.

I enjoyed buccaneers however it is true that sometimes it's off and cringe for no reason.

I love Bridgerton and the Regency era, but wasnt totally sure why i thought the Buccaneers was odd and cringy

Every show is different I’ve seen people enjoy buccaneers

For starters, the original 1995 Buccaneers is waaaaay better than this Apple+ version, which is just garbage. The Buccaneers is also set in the 1870s. Bridgerton is 1810s..... Anyway, I preferred Bridge.

I had intended to watch the Buccaneers, but the clips looks so bad.

I knew we are getting another Persuasion like disaster, when I saw Conchita as a bride to be standing in her underwear in the open window for everyone to see, while Nan was climbing down the wall. As a period drama lover I want more of the stories from BBC or ITV production from the past 30y or so and less dumbing down and modernised stories apparently for 21st c viewer. Bridgertons work, as was said, because despite the unrealistic features, the world is more or less reflection of reality and has rigid rules. It's not that people back then couldn't have fun, but the Bucaneer girls found themselves in constant state of undress in front of men, with whom they repeatedly were alone and unchaperoned and weren't even trying to hide it. It just makes a joke of the whole story.

Buccanners problem is being on AppleTV

From the moment I saw those promotional photos, I knew this show was ✨GARBAGE✨

It's a historical drama vs historical farce. One is cheez against chock.

I like it all! Even the bad ones like the Buccaneers.😂

I loved AppleTV Buccaneers. Was enjoyable comparing it to the book. They made really fun choices. I’m a sucker for a love triangle and they really amped that up. Ending was SO good.

Answer to title: People like British accents better lol

@LJE1821

6 ай бұрын

I agree with this 😆

@Lavender_2002

5 ай бұрын

No the gilded age is well liked and they have American accents

The 1995 version of The Buccaneers was better and more classy. This recent version was to me simultaneously good while being annoying in its efforts to be oh-so-edgy. Kind of like, “Hey, look at us! We’re being modern and edgy! Aren’t we edgy?” As for Bridgerton, well, I love everything about it.

The Gilded Age is 10x better than the buccaneers.

@LouiseAndersen1991

6 ай бұрын

The Gilded Age is wonderful to watch. It´s highly historical correct, yet made for our modern eyes. It also manges to give us the black perspective without it feeling forced. I loved the first season of Bridgerton immensely, but it does feel a bit forced with having black actors in the show. But it does work

you know why, cause the buccaneers made it all about nan and her constant crying and whining, at least the 90s version it was about all the girls and not just nan. Besides bridgerton does have success but thanks to all the major love tropes it stole from books from the past. when I watch it I see every love trope from books I have read, like austen. or the taming of the shrew. so bravo author of bridgerton, nothing but a copy of great love stories that you took and gave a little spin, the only good thing about it that is seemingly original is Penelope.

Bridgeton and Marie Antoinette works while Buccaneers fails miserably. I read the book. I recognized nothing in these clips.

The buccaneers could have been good, if they stayed truer to the social norms and/or historical costumes. Both destroyed the vibe for me. It felt like their research was one book or a Pinterest board. And Nan was kinda nice but way too modern. The whole not like other girls trope is very annoying by now. It would have been interesting to see her struggle to fit in (like having to hold herself back) while still having her different opinions.

This version of the Buccaneers was such a disappointment 👎🏾

I'm trying to like the Buccaneers but failing miserably. The anachronism pulls me out of the immersion every five minutes and it gets tiring.

The Buccaneers is a horrible tv show

I’m actually so in love with the Buccaneers. It’s what I wanted Bridgerton to be.

I've watched the buccaneers the original was far better.

That they're both steaming piles of garbage. This seems to be an apology for Bridgerton trying to demarcate thing slices of difference, but it's not really that different. About the only positive I see is what they did with the soundtrack. I think that was an inspired choice. The integrated setting is baffling to me. I tried to watch it. But basically there was some kind of lip service that slavery existed until the queen married the king. Which doesn't explain how slavery ended or how people who used to be slaves ended up in the aristocracy so suddenly. Though at least it explains the large quantity of them pictured in the show. And if there wasn't slavery, why is there such a large quantity of black people there? The Asian people are just as baffling, as to why they are where they are. The Indians not so much as if you have a British aristocrat who married an Indian lady, that works out, and that did happen. And then you just have to imagine they came home to a UK that was a kinder world than it really was. But the rest of Asia was mostly out of Europe's grasp at that point. Anyway, I found the dissonance in the background of Bridgerton to be extremely distracting since your family history impacts your value on the marriage market along with your family money. Though there's a lot of stuff outside of race that's also really wrong. Like the fashion. And people basically not reacting correctly to extremely rude and uncouth behavior.

its tv man ...chill out

@shawncarter5434

6 ай бұрын

And this is just a video. Maybe you should chill out

@daphnehuari4655

6 ай бұрын

This whole channel is about analysing and ranking TV, film and media, what are you talking about? 😂

Bridgerton (the tv show) feels like terrible fan fiction written by ill-educated Americans with zero real understanding of the historical period after watching a couple of Jane Austen adaptations. May be the books are better. I don't know if something was lost in translation while adapting for the screen. I was put off from reading them because of how idiotic I found the TV series. In this age of idiocracy, where self-serving con-artists and megalomaniacs are elected to the government by ignorant voters based on memes they saw on social media, people don't care about, or worse, knowingly contribute to the gradual destruction of the environment, and garbage like Twilight is a best seller, success of other garbage like Netflix's Bridgerton is not surprising. If Buccaneers is worse, I would not even bother watching it.

Bridgerton sucks.