Seems like the older I get the more I miss the old days of my childhood

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Yes me too

@loucilehall9281

4 ай бұрын

Me too

Hello, my name is Michael Rose. I’m a member of the Choctaw Nation and I have 12 of my ancestors buried there. I can probably answer most of your questions

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Oh my goodness . Do you live in this area ?

@garlickebagg

3 ай бұрын

Quanah Parker?

Thank you so much for using the flashlight to read these monuments and stones. So much better. thank you for going to this cemetery. That is HISTORY!!

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Oh my goodness it’s an awesome cemetery. We will go back and do a better job . Thank you so much

@garlickebagg

3 ай бұрын

​@@barbaraschleiff3774 Can you use a bigger flashlight?

Barbara and Tim, thank you for this post. I’d be weeping too, it’s so tragic to think of what our Native America families endured under Andrew Jackson. Thank you for the love and care you demonstrate. ❤

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind comment

Everyone in Kansas called my dad Choctaw John. His name was changed to John Anderson by the church school in the early 30's when he was a small child. His father was Choctaw and buried in Oklahoma. I barely remember the funeral in 1968 of his father. I do remember them saying he was buried in a piano shipping box. My father was also a big man of 6"4. I wish I would have learned more from my dad before he died in 1999. My dad was the kindest man I ever met and he never met a stranger. He served in the Korean War and loved to play the guitar and harmonica. He never talked about his family on his dad's side and I never remember going to Oklahoma to visit the graves. RIP daddy. You guy's do a great job. I love historic cemeteries and do my share of walking them in Arkansas and Tennessee.

I have a lot of chactaw music. I'm native American myself. I'm Ojibwe Indian. And proud to say I'm Native American.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Wow , awesome

My great grandmother was Choctaw from mississippi area.had family on trail of tears to Oklahoma .had babies die durning this time.very hard on them. Some stayed and others made their way back to the Mississippi delta area where they remaimed

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Oh wow . Very said

I was crying along with you reading the monument. Beautiful Cemetery.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Oh my goodness , it caught me off guard . Had to go to the car to get Kleenex and let Tim finish it

Really interesting. Powerful message on that monument. The grave stone for Hearts Delight is amazing. He parents obviously adored their little girl by giving her such a precious name. I look forward to your spring visit.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thank you

What a beautiful memorial monument ❤to the Choctaw people

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Yes

William and Susan Hall's other children listed on the emigration were Jane Hall Folsom, Jackson Hall, Joseph Hall, Robert Hall, Silas Hall, Sarah Hall Trahern, Margaret Hall Moncrief, Louisa Hall, Catherine Hall Wall Stephens, and Martha Hall. William and Susan were force moved from their home near the Tombigee River in Mississippi during the Dancing Rabbit Creek of 1830 to the new Choctaw Nation in Oklahoma.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

So sad

@garlickebagg

3 ай бұрын

There was large HALL family Quaker. who came over with William PENN & William RICHARDSON the Quaker preacher late 1680s, if i remember rightly. Other related families PIERPONT, RICHARDSON, MARQUIS, BUCK, some of them landed in northern Shenandoah Valley mid1700s, left the Quaker, too restrictive for folks out to the frontier lands. Wish i could remember more. Kit RICHARDSON of Swords Creek Va. Another name from there McGLOTHIN. Also a daughter of Quanah Parker married a PURDY, who were from Waxhaws, some of the Native Names are in their tribal languages. Hope this helps in your researches. Genealogy is truly the Gift that keeps on Giving. 👍.

@evelynbeightel2246

Ай бұрын

There isn't very many headstones there. That's sad

You made my day. I live in Pennsylvania but all my dads family comes from Oklahoma. I got to see my ancestors graves for the first time in this video. At 36:18 you read Marry E. 1846-1862. Daughter of Col Tandy c walker and Elzira walker( 1st wife). At 36:51 was Douglas walker infant son of col tandy c walker and 2nd wife cillen krebbs walker. At 37:00 was Robert Walker 1851-1871 also son of Tandy and cillen. At 37:38 is Governor of the Choctaw nation from 1858-1859 col tandy c walker 1814-1877 who is my great great great great uncle. The grave unreadable next to him could possibly be his second wife cillen

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Oh my goodness . We’re going to go back and do another one later . Thank you for watching . If you have any stories we would love to share them next time

@stephaniemonroe8256

5 ай бұрын

I will ask my dad if he knows any

@stephaniemonroe8256

5 ай бұрын

I’m looking for Tandy c walkers brothers grave. Which is my 4 great grandfather. His name was Lewis or Louis walker 1818-1842. If you happen to come across any info where he’s buried I would be very interested

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Have you looked on find a grave

Being 1/2 Native American myself, I would request that upon your return to the Choctaw Burial Grounds, take with you some tobacco and before entering the Burial Grounds say Prayers and then scatter some of the tobacco at the entrance to the Burial Grounds. Thank You very much for what Y'all are doing.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

That was a beautiful memorial stone. You are much like me, I'd have been squalling, too. I cry when i see stones for babies, especially the statuette of a baby asleep with a lamb. All the young children, hurts my heart. I love to just honor them by recognizing that they lived by visiting cemeteries. Part of my family were Cherokee on the Trail of Tears. For this reason my great grandmother was born in Oklahoma, but was taken back to the south, in Georgia. It must have been devastating to be on that trail so near giving birth. Her mother died, the trail probably contributed to that. Terrible times, they were. I'm a new sub, love your videos! Lord bless and keep you❤🙏

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thank you and God bless you

Thank you both for sharing. I know the descendants of these folks who live far away and may never have the chance to visit the graves of their ancestors will truly appreciate your video and visit.. You give them the chance to do that, not just in pictures, but in actual video ❣️

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Our pleasure! Thank you . This one was hard for me

@marlalonchar3858

5 ай бұрын

@@barbaraschleiff3774 I had to go back and redo my message to you. My phone connection has lagged since we got all the ice and snow last week. That message made no sense at all lol. Anyway, I really enjoyed this video and yes I got the tears as you read. The suffering these people endured was so horrific 😔

Thank you for sharing this beautiful resting place. I look forward to hearing more about the wonderful people who's bodies rest there.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Yes . And read the comments also , some of their relatives are commenting. It’s awesome . Thank you for watching

I just fell on to your video. And as I was reading some of the title, you had a tombstone, with the last Riddle. My grandpa's last name is Riddle, with him being born in Antlers OK. My grandma also from Antlers' was an Earls. Her Father was Joseph B. Earls. He had his name on a building at one time in Antlers. I don't remember which tribe my grandma was from, Choctaw or Chickasaw. She was dark skinned even when she was near her death. She told me her Grandma was a full blood Native. My grandpa said he was Cherokee. Bless their hearts, both passed in the 1990's and I miss them, so this was good. Thank you.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

I’m so glad . Her name was Hearts Delight Riddle , 12 years old , oh my goodness this video was hard for me . Thank you for watching

@garlickebagg

3 ай бұрын

I think RIDDLE was Dutch Fork family 1740s.

Thanks for taking us along. There is such sadness and loss here.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Yes :( thank you for watching

This was a really good video. So very sad to see so many deaths, especially of children. My heart goes out to the Native American people that lost so many ancestors on the Trail Of Tears. It should never have happened. I read all the comments and found then all to be very respectful except one. Many ancestors of the ones buried here. I wish they would do a ground penetrating search and at least make it as a grave. I realize they don't know who it may be, but at least it will be marked as a grave unknown. Also, maybe a list of names of the ones they know may be buried there would be nice. Their names listed on a monument. Thank you for doing this video.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind comment and for watching

William Hall was born in 1793 and died in 1838. He was 45. His wife Susan Riddle Hall was born in 1793 and died in 1858. Their child Martha Hall died in 1838. Their child Eliza Hall died in 1838. This cemetery is also known as the "Old Hall Cemetery" by the WPA, Im assuming during the 1930s. There is more info on Find a Grave. William and Susan were both of a Choctaw mix ancestry. Some has William's death listed as 1834. Thank you both for showing us this cemetery. It's just so sad.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Oh wow , thank you so much

@marlalonchar3858

5 ай бұрын

​@@barbaraschleiff3774I'm still finding some more of their children.

@marlalonchar3858

5 ай бұрын

They had a son Joseph Hall. The child Joseph buried is probably William and Susan's grandson.

@sandyvassar9598

5 ай бұрын

Thank for your information. Do you know if there was a sickness because they lost so many of their family in 1 year?

@garlickebagg

3 ай бұрын

Twas a large RIDDLE family moved from Va to Ky and onward. One of them was Happy Rogers who married a RIDDLE, and some of the girls were named Happy after her. ALSO wondering if they are related to RIDDLE of Va, Md, or Dutch Fork of SC?

What a beautiful cemetery well mowed for now and hopefully some restoration can be done

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Yes

I really enjoy your stories, thank you for your research ❤

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind comment

New subscriber been watching few of your videos. Loved this one beautiful resting place. God bless you all.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching

1838 was post trail of tears I believe. A lot of illnesses and poverty. Our government seems to always make poor decisions.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@hellynnwheels6819

5 ай бұрын

Trail of Tears was 1831-1850.

God Bless you both and Thank you

This was a very interesting cemetery. Thank you both for the preview!

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much

Thank you both so much for videoing this cemetery. When you read the Indian memorial it brought tears to my eyes, I have always said that exact thing that is written there. The Lanier name is pronounced La-near :) there are lots of Lanier's living where I live and that is how I know the way it is pronounced, please keep up the great work! I too used to research old abandoned cemeteries and I actually had a pad and pencil with me everywhere I went :) I so miss doing it now! God Bless you both!

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much . Yes it was rough reading the monument. I was expecting that

Amazing cemetery, very touching, Thank You

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching

Really enjoyed this!

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Absolutely 💯 beautiful cemetery ❤

@barbaraschleiff3774

4 ай бұрын

It really is!

Some of these graves were freedmen. When going take paper and pencil and stencil over the name if unreadable it helps. I am native and I can only find my great grandparents. My great great grandfather Jim Shamanta Gibson walked the trail of tear. He is mentioned in the movie “Pearlie”. I am Choctaw and Chickasaw. I’m very proud of that but graves for natives😢 are hard to find. Skullyville means money the town is where they came to get their allotment money.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Yes thank you

Anny & William Merryman (is my great-Grandparents and 10 other ancestors are buried there. I live in CA but my Cousin Michael lives near by. ❤

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Oh wow ! Do you think he would share stories with us for a video ?

@michaelrose8878

5 ай бұрын

Yes

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Dayspringvb@hotmail.com if he’s interested

1838 was the middle of the Trail of Tears. Those poor children died being relocated. 💔💔💔

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

So sad

Does anyone know how to get a hold of the owners of this channel? I have some important information for them about the Scullyville cemetery and a video that I did for the Choctaw Nation.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Dayspringvb@hotmail.com , thank you

I cried too. It's so hard to imagine what these people had to bear. It's heart breaking.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Yes . Thanks for watching

Love to your heart ❤

@barbaraschleiff3774

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching

It's so very sad the way the Indians was treated. My grandma was Cheerekee Indian.

Enjoying this video very much. Since so many families died during the same year when you do your research could there had been a disease that took so many? Also, from the site of this cemetary how far away did the reminding families live? Looking forward to more of your videos. Awesome job. They will not be forgotten. 😢

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

We will try to get more information. Thanks for watching

@marlalonchar3858

5 ай бұрын

I added a link. Starvation, measles, pneumonia, etc took their lives 💔

I have visited Skullyville several times. I was told that many of the headstones there were removed and dropped into an old outhouse hole decades ago and then the hole was filled in by the vandals that did it. Don't know for sure if this is true but it would explain the missing stones.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Oh goodness , so sad

They counties and towns were named after the people. ❤

@barbaraschleiff3774

4 ай бұрын

Yes

BOWER/BOWERS was a Dutch Fork family 1740s.

We called those big marbles…boulders… but I’m 79 and female.

@barbaraschleiff3774

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

My late partner told me he was half Choctaw. I asked which parent. He said both. 🤦‍♀️😳. So each of his parents were half. I won’t mention names because for some reason his parents brought their kids up not to be proud of their heritage. The parents moved from Oklahoma. I’ll be proud for him.

@barbaraschleiff3774

4 ай бұрын

Oh yes ! Thanks for watching

Thank you for sharing. I think Typhoid , smallpox, some kind of disease might been the problem. I’m not sure.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching

33:05 ❤like the names of towns and counties after Choctaw people

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Yes :)

My goodness😭

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

I know :(

My grandmother was charcoal Indian in Mississippi I would like to know if y'all ever took a tour of the chalk Carnation in Mississippi my grandmother's name was Mabel

@barbaraschleiff3774

4 ай бұрын

No we haven’t

Worried if I cleaned up the one older stone that the letters would just rub off instead of being able to see it they are so worn ❤❤

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Yes you have to be careful with them

@hellynnwheels6819

5 ай бұрын

I’ve watched Chanel’s of people who clean and repair gravestones, and tell the stories. But there are ways to read or transcribe the engraving without ruining them. I just don’t know what it is. A teacher I worked with used to give kids parchment 😊super and art charcoal of sorts and the students would rub the gravestone then research the people. I’m not sure that is still a common method.

First time for me seeing this my grandmother was C h oh

@barbaraschleiff3774

4 ай бұрын

Thsnks for watching

It was a part of the Trail of Tears. Also involved in the civil war 1932 to 1839 . Could they be causualties of war?

@judythomas9775

5 ай бұрын

Civil War was 1860-1865. They were just part of the Choctaw removal.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

I looked some of these up a lot died from Yellow Fever on the Trail of Tears that are buried here.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information

@hellynnwheels6819

5 ай бұрын

Heartbreaking!

I a m on,ly half choctaw my dad died and .my mother stuck our paperwork with him i dont know how to get our paperwork to go back

@barbaraschleiff3774

4 ай бұрын

Oh goodness . Hopefully you can figure that out

Schmuck is Yiddish, surprised it is a person's last name! Who are these people and where did they come from? Are there only the two with the name? Who was the father?

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Good questions

Could it have been because of the Trail of Tears?

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Yes , thank you for watching

Might I suggest you take a brush to clean off the moss? Thanks for sharing your videos.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip!

Our anstords are buried there

@barbaraschleiff3774

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@at 35:48 approximately, the gravestone says that person had been murdered. It would be wise, if you intend on coming back, to bring some rain water and a scrub brush with you. If it were me, I would hope that y’all went a little bit slower. I would also advise that you not walk over the ground where people are buried. It’s disrespectful. Other than that I enjoyed your show.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching

@StormyNight777

5 ай бұрын

A lot of graves are unmarked and the stones, which were just rocks, were removed. It is so sad.

@jerrilynhenson9024

4 ай бұрын

Since a lot of markers were removed, how would they know they are walking on a grave. Cemeteries even now place them so close it’s impossible to not walk over. No one means to be disrespectful.

@jerrilynhenson9024

4 ай бұрын

You also have to be careful of what you use to clean old stones with. Sometimes it makes them worse.

What I was trying to say and it came out wrong my grandmother Mabel Harper was chocolate Indian it's still coming out wrong I'm going to try to type it next time

@barbaraschleiff3774

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

Trail of tears disease was cholera

@barbaraschleiff3774

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

We are going to come back when there are more leaves, proceeds to read more headstones. BTW the term "Indian" is offensive.

@barbaraschleiff3774

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

You said neat 10 times in the first 2 minuten. I'm out.

@barbaraschleiff3774

5 ай бұрын

I understand , Our videos aren’t for everyone

@hellynnwheels6819

5 ай бұрын

Neat compares to the millennial use of “awesome,” or Gen X use of “cool,” relax, Willy.