Hilux Gets WIDER To Take On The New Ranger! (Toyota Hilux Rogue 2023 Review)
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We drive the 2023 Toyota Hilux Rogue, which gets a wider track and a ground clearance increase to take on the new Ford Ranger.
Toyota will release a super-Hilux in the coming years, possibly with GR Hilux branding and tough off-roading suspension. But for now, there’s the 2023 Hilux Rogue: wider, meaner and better than ever, with new suspension components and better handling. But in the face of the new T6.2 Ranger Wildtrak, is the 2023 Rogue enough?
The Hilux Rogue competes with high-end Ford Ranger variants, plus the Volkswagen Amarok W580 series, Nissan Navara PRO-4X, Mazda BT-50 GT, Isuzu D-Max LS-T and others.
As always, we don’t accept advertising from car manufacturers, and we’re powered by Budget Direct - so this is an independent, honest review of the Toyota Hilux.
Time codes:
0:00 - Hilux Rogue Specs
1:30 - Interior & Tech
3:19 - Back Seats
4:09 - Tray
5:26 - Running Costs
6:50 - Driving Dynamics & Off-Road
11:25 - Should You Buy It?
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Пікірлер: 323
Should Toyota make the next Hilux a V6? It’s due in 2024.
@Ak-tn6lt
Жыл бұрын
It’s a must
@aerienix
Жыл бұрын
One stitched from two GR Yaris 1.6Ts
@timfreeman2603
Жыл бұрын
Only if they want to win back #1 spot from Ford Ranger
@andrewlimpyer9727
Жыл бұрын
Yes, with a hybrid plug in.
@richardwalsh5570
Жыл бұрын
Pretty happy with power and torque on current models, getting 8.9l per 100. Mate has v6 Ranger getting 14 same local driving
[Walks into Toyota board meeting] [Writes "Toyota Ranger" on a whiteboard and circles it] [leaves]
Never heard of a Toyota ranger before 😂😂 slip up. This looks great, looks heaps beefier
@grogginess
Жыл бұрын
Well what is toyota ? A copy of ford. (Research the start of toyota) Also this is wider like ranger, has wildtrak sail, has wildtrak roller shutter. Couldn't be more ranger unless it had a blue oval badge
@SkiRacingOz
Жыл бұрын
@@grogginess it would also need a lot more power
@snowyren5135
11 ай бұрын
And less reliabi…..
that hilux is a thic boy, reminds me of the hilux arctic, I love how aggressive it looks,
They made it wider but for god sake pud some all terrain tires on it
I have a new generation V6 RANGER and how nice it is, I still miss my sr5 hilux sometimes. the new ranger is packed with tech and tbh it annoys the crap out of me. My take on it is if you want a car that is simple and works, buy a hilux and if tech is your thing buy a ranger.
@richardwalsh5570
Жыл бұрын
How is your Ranger fuel economy?
@barrakingbeatz7794
Жыл бұрын
@@richardwalsh5570 11.0- 11.3L per 100km around town
@johnnumbat9782
Жыл бұрын
As long as your happy paying for more litres per 100km as Ranger V6 has shown - in fact in a number of KZread videos the Ranger Raptor has been consuming well over 30 litres per 100km off-road so that’s a deal breaker for me - I have a Hilux 3 litre auto and consistently get around 10 litres per 100km on and off road which I’m happy with considering the high price of diesel now - yes Toyota had DPF issues but Ford are known to have reliability issues with engine and drive train but I’ll stay with my low-tech and very reliable 2010 Hilux.
@barrakingbeatz7794
Жыл бұрын
@@johnnumbat9782 I’d own a hilux again. My 2019 never missed a beat and was great off road for touring!
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
Comparing a diesel four cylinder to a twin-turbo petrol V6 for low-speed fuel economy feels a bit unfair.
Great review - you covered the content very well. It was very easy to follow your story-line! Thanks and well done!
This is the most common model in the UK. I prefer the look of the invincible/ SR5
Fine review mate. But the question must be asked; How many times do you put more frills on a frock before you change it? Toyota has some hard work to do.
Love this new rogue already, time for an upgrade now 🤩🤩. Great review as always sir!
@bezputink
10 ай бұрын
там даже пластик по всюду дубовый, почему она стоит семьдесят семь тысяч?
The incremental change companies are doing with uts in recent years is making a convincing case for buying the same models from 2013-2020.
@NathsHim
Жыл бұрын
u mean every ute provider apart from ford. cant really compare the next gen to anything else being bought out. this review just shows how far behind toyota is from ford now
Toyota left the 70 series rear track untouched and gives hilux 140mm wider track. So they can but they just dont want to.
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
Of course they can. It's Toyota!
Your comment about the roller cover 'sounding sick' wrap it up nicely. Mine always sounds the same and we've had several issues with it in the 18 months. If they update the Rogue in the future, they need to seriously look at the roller cover or get rid of it altogether.
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
Not a good grinding sound that
@BiggieBalls72
Жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars Next time yr in a servo give it a flush with the air hose. Wouldn't it collect all sorts of granular stuff?
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
I imagine it does, Nicholas - but this ute only had 1000km on the clock! Seems like it clogs very quickly then.
@UncleDobby
Жыл бұрын
No, mine first failed a day or two after I picked it up and has failed three times since where it just stops working. Toyota have since replaced the motor. Touch wood, it is still working but still sounds and feels like it grinding it’s way closed and open. I’d never buy another Rogue unless they ditch this particular cover.
@anth1839
Жыл бұрын
My brothers failed with 5000km on it and 6 months old. There's a problem....
Surprised there is no Cassette player.
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
Lol. Not quite.
Nice vidoe again. However last week Toyota South Africa just launched Hilux GR Sport with 165kw which is now available at dealers country wide.
Nice review. Have Toyota stated the GCM of this new Rogue yet? The old 5850kg is not enough to pull 3500kg and carry a slab of beer. I haven't been able to find this out.
@simmo6035
Жыл бұрын
It's the same for all utes, all vehicles too really. No talks about this but the y62 has issues regarding towing. Your GVM gets hammered above 2500kg. If you are towing 3.5t, you loose something like 420kg of your payload. Not 350kg like everything else.
Great review. Definitely agree with you that the Toyota needs an update on there engine as well as there interior upgrade.
@bezputink
10 ай бұрын
а почему ведущего так много в кадре. Он нам машину показывает или себя?
Lol@ 8:30 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 We really have been Rangerfied.
I believe this is the test vehicle under neath for next generation. Toyota through history have normally made minor changes incrementally hence there previous reliability. The downside is most other top selling utes have a lot more for your money. On sales, if you take out mining and agriculture sales there behind Ranger. How is the track increase done, wider diff and wishbones with wheel offset or new cab. Appears to be just diff and wishbones?
@wizzylizzy69
Жыл бұрын
Well you will need longer control arms, driveshafts, on the front, and just a wider rear diff.
I will be retro fitting mine to look and perform similar.
Same old hilux nothing changed that much
hi Most of the upgrades except the xtra track /rear brakes were updates done in Sept 2020 facelift . Oh yea the rear brakes , the drums actually work better than disc but they dont like heat . The brakes were boosted with xtra pressure via load boost valve when towing . Rear discs are only a luxury , in reality not required .
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
The drums don’t work better than the discs - the brake upgrade has cut about four metres off the Ute’s emergency stopping distance from 100kmh in our testing
Crazy how they still offer such a bog standard interior for all that money, they could atleast bundle in that sound system for the base price.
@hobo1704
Жыл бұрын
Yep, typical Toyota..
@9002alex
Жыл бұрын
Have you priced a fully loaded amarok Lately? I did for my own purchase and nearly fell off my chair. Utes are not good value for money anymore, and besides the v6, the amarok is not the best for value for money/interior changes too.
@ironlungthe3rd
Жыл бұрын
@@9002alex as a tech I steer clear of V Dubs the issues I see on a daily basis is shocking, they're good when they're new but after a few years vw don't cover anything.
Semiconductor shortage affecting the stereo and speakers..Wait..What?? That's like being told that your entire house can be built with all the wood, concrete, granite floors, associated plumbing, but the simple glass windows needed, will be made from perspex...
Toyota Ranger 🤣🤣 8:30
@brucehirst649
Жыл бұрын
You heard that to 😊 he only human 🍺🍺
Hilux vs ford wildtrak service maintenance cost?
It is about time manufacturers starting to update the rear brakes to disc. Most people would go...meh? But for me, I notice these things. I am not a big fan of the Ranger, but I would buy this Rogue as a stop gap till they start putting the V6 into a Hilux.
Weird to hear "semiconductor shortage" as an excuse for not having speakers and an amplifier in inventory.
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
Pretty common actually. Lots of premium audio systems going missing from standard spec sheets at the moment. Toyota and JBL, Mazda and Bose, Volkswagen and H-K.
@vladthe3rd414
Жыл бұрын
@@chasingcarsbut price still hasn’t changed … hmmm … why put premium products in when people are willing to pay premium prices for basic specs
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
They haven’t removed the JBL stereo. You get a discount if you choose to not get it; and your car might be built sooner
With the bad soundtrack, I thought my speakers are broken. Despite the semiconductor shortage affecting the stereo and speakers in this car.
The Mustache is looking good mate
I have the new dmax but this hilux looks better than mine.
Can you choose the bed/tray material aside from the carpet? Like durable plastic or a spray-on bed liner?
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
Not stock, no.
@godzillaxred
Жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars I see, hopefully they have options from the factory.
@Guuggel
Жыл бұрын
Carpeted bed was really surprising to me. Here in Finland it would make no sense to put carpet in your bed despite having tonneau cover.
I like it except for the carpet in the tray. The plastic liner is better, easier to clean
With all the issues I’ve had with my 2019 Hilux SR5 It’s more like unfixable. At least Toyota has covered everything under new vehicle warranty.
@simmo6035
Жыл бұрын
Sucks about your issues mate. We have a 2019 sr5 too, 100 000km clicks now and it has been simply flawless. I also have a 2021 Dmax, the Hilux is a far better car. I know most car reviews don't say that but how would they know after driving them for a few hours.
@tkaymdala
Жыл бұрын
@@simmo6035 put about 150k on my sr5 no major issues till date
@SkiRacingOz
Жыл бұрын
@@simmo6035 poor sod got a lemon, our old ranger was at 420,000 kms before it went to an employee having nothing but issues with his Colorado, no issues. Lemons will lemon
5:45 no adblue?
I've got the grs hilux on order, didn't go with the rogue cos of the posh stuff would get rekt in my work
@trentattewell6109
Жыл бұрын
Assuming you mean the roller shutter, and carpet lined tub. Pretty sure the GR is going to be like the Rugged X. You take the Rogue and instead of adding those you put on 17"s and ATs, front and rear steel bars, sliders, led light bar, some different cladding and a load bearing sports bar. Interior, engine, drivetrain and suspension etc won't change over Rogue. Happy to be proven wrong though.
EXCELLENT. ROGUE. YES SIR. 👍👍
This beast you should have a manual transmission option!!!
@yengsabio5315
Жыл бұрын
Here in the Philippines, the Rogue (or Conquest in our case) has a 2.8 L manual 4x4 variant.
No digital speedo display?!
Beautiful
Still luv 💞 it Cape Town South Africa
Ranger 2023 is soo much better looking and agile. Will be getting the Raptor
They still need to make a version without all the wank shirt tho , vinyl interior pre run 12 volt provisions and heavier duty rear diff etc , people are requiring bigger payloads for All the shirt they put on them and it's not fitting the requirements we would need . The nicer models are just that however it like to see the hilux offered in actual rugged spec not just plastic guards. Thanks for reviewing the version 👍
Same boring 4 pot diesel. Really hope the next major release Hilux will have the v6 Diesel and 10 speed Auto with a coil suspension option
No paddle shift?
Toyota is making its own customers fans of its competitors, by not releasing new model frequent enough, like the Hilux. Then their new models seem to always lag behind in innovation, or engine performance, compared to its competitors. An example is my uncle. He only bought Hiluxes for as long as I can remember. But when he wanted to replace his 4.5 year old Hilux, and looked at the current model (Hilux), he said, it was pretty much the same as his model. So he looked at the new Ranger, and ended up getting that. Now he loves the Ranger. He wouldn't have even considered anything but a Hilux if the new model was substantially updated and more innovative compared to the previous version. So Toyota made my uncle - a Toyota fanboy, a fan of the Ford Ranger.
@user-be9ey4jb3c
Жыл бұрын
Until ford fails.
Big fan of Hilux Rogue and GR sports 2024🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
So it's now got the same tech the PX 2 Ranger had 7 years ago
whats the difference between isuzu dmax nd hilux???? because pricing in india is stupid .. dmax crew cab starts from 15 lakh top end 25 ish lakhs but hilux starts from 30 to 35ish ...
Hey Toyota - Do that suspension in SR spec please.
@Pegsy83
Жыл бұрын
And added 140mm width as an option at least
@Pegsy83
Жыл бұрын
Alot of people will want the tough look but actually use there tray. So hardwearing lining in the tray make sense.
$80k for a Hilux ute - have to be crazy!
@jerrybow8779
Жыл бұрын
I just sold my 08 sr5 last week with 195kms for $22k
first time I will say this ...... I like this Toyota.......
I really like the new Hilux. Looks great. I have a ranger wildtrak v6 arriving in a few weeks, if it wasn't for the ridiculously long wait times, I'd happily change to the no muss no fuss Toyota.
@elitevbman
Жыл бұрын
Call Nowra Toyota mate they have a few of these available before Xmas.
I miss the old school true reliable Hilux, the new ones have all this new stuff (and a lot of it really great) but it isn’t as tough and reliable as it’s predecessors R.I.P Hilux
@ra_redesignautomobiles
Жыл бұрын
It's because it's made now in Thailand mostly The first to 6th gen was made in Japan It's all about labor costs
@Sayin42
Жыл бұрын
@RA Redesign Automobiles makes sense, sacrificing quality for money always seems to be the case but a balance would’ve kept their rep and therefore keep them gaining money surely
@ra_redesignautomobiles
Жыл бұрын
@@Sayin42 in japan, cars there are assembled and checked thoroughly , even tested for reliability before selling it to the masses. They have Kaizen implemented to improve reliability, most car brands nowadays ditch professionals for new graduates in order to save money, thats the horrific truth, and some assembled locally or in other places its because also of Custom Taxes, comparing to our Thailand Made 2012 Diesel Fortuner and 1992 Liteace we had in Philippines, fortuners can get also sickness, but our 1992 Liteace KM36 in Philippines were in japan, the only issue is the A/C due to poor assembly but the engine and its components are unbeatable.
Toyota Hilux is a proven platform. Other brands put it as their benchmark for their utes. But don't put too much hope if any new Hilux will come up with anything major soon because why need to change when its a winning formula? As for Ford Ranger they will be the ”dr jekyll and mr hyde” of the category. Why? Reliability and most importantly longevity especially with the new Ranger on the market.
A good review, Thank you. In regards the "dated" look I am of two minds. If you compare it to say the 2023 Ford Ranger Wildtrak. It is seriously dated. But, it is tried and true and it works. Can the same be said for the new ford ranger with its electrics and gear box? I am not so sure it can. With more electronics also means more than can break. The Hilux was never designed as a "yuppy" vehicle designed to be driven around town by someone who wants to look cool. It was designed to get down and dirty. Afterall if you are out seriously 4x4ing do you really need all the frills?? Are those "frills" nice? yes of course but they wont help you through mud or through a river crossing in fact in some cases they will hinder you. So with that in mind, should they "update" it with all the latest and greatest gadgets known to humankind? I am not so convinced. I would prefer a vehicle I know can take out into the sticks and not have to worry about some electronic part breaking down on me anyday. Reliability is the key and if they add in all the electronics will it be as reliable? To be honest I doubt it when you look at all the other vehicles. Would I like to see a V6 version? yes, I would.
Please do the amarock when it's out
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
Driving it this weekend, actually!
My favorite hilux!
i had hiiluxes they were reliable back then but not now no power theses days new raptor omg
MAKE THE CAB BIGGER!!! JESUS HOW MANY TIMES DO WE NEED TO TELL YOU THIS!!!!!!
Did your brother do a voice over or do you guys just sound completely similar
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
Not sure what happened there
Im sorry but the Hilux cheap and dated interior is a deal breaker for me no matter what other improvement they made. U would be hard pressed to find a better all around truck then the ranger imo
Toyota needs to bring the Tacoma and Tundra to Australia.
Ther only just catching up to navara now
Height has also been increased in this variant
So it's as wide as a Tacoma now?
Where was the verdict?
8:30 I had to rewind to make sure if I’m hearing right…
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
Yes
In Kurdistan we have Hilux with v6 option and i have a 2022 one with a v6 it’s one of the best cars that i ever owned
@simranbanga5467
Жыл бұрын
V6 petrol or diesel?
Why Toyota pickupa are not hybrid?
Hilux still most reliable 4x4 on the market
Not available in the US...☹
@Isaac-muntz
Жыл бұрын
Hehe
Looks tough 💪
@rossevans1774
Жыл бұрын
Looks plastic!
🔥🔥🔥. THANK. YOU TOYOTA. ROGUE. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
So they put wider fender flares to compete with ford
Keep this design,modernize the drivetrain/engine/4x4 please Toyota
I've got the 2016 sr5 hilux and the most i every get on rang is 450km on a 80lt tank . I have now upgraded to a 140lt fuel tank and will only get about 1000km with about 20lt left in the tank and I have done 180000km atm so its around 12-14lt/100 at the best
@MarmiteTheDog
Жыл бұрын
That's terrible. My Ranger gets just over 1000km from its 90L tank. Even my V6 diesel Territory gets around 800km!
@deanjohnson9414
Жыл бұрын
I get 780 ks a tank out of my Hilux 7 liter s a hundred duno what U are doing
@raymondc9896
Жыл бұрын
You must have a problem like a stuffed dpf or something.
@thuan888x
Жыл бұрын
dpf has been changed have roof racks on the cab n canopy with a 2.4m pull out awning on the driverside and a 270°+ free standing on the passenger side . 140lt fuel tank with a 30lt water tank with about 300kg of weight in the tub with 265 70 18 AT tyres, a rugged x rear steel bar, a steel bullbar with a 12000lb winch.. that why i get around 12-14lt/100km its not s stock hilux
@thuan888x
Жыл бұрын
@@raymondc9896 just have a touring hilux with about 400kg of extra weight from stock
Well done Toyota, make it harder to get down tracks.. one of the main points of a good 4wd 🙄
The Hilux....once a proud beast from the east! Durable, comfortable and affordable...... Now just a confidence boost for the men with erectile dysfunction.
You can drive it in 4wd on wet roads
why is height and headroom measured in inches ?
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
It is more common to measure height in feet and inches in Australia
@falchoon
Жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars For boomers, maybe. The rest of us went metric in 1966 - 183cm for me.
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
yet I'm born a lot more recently than 1966…
@falchoon
Жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars me too, is it a NSW thing?
I didn’t know Toyota made a Ranger 😂 - 8:30 reference to “Toyota Ranger”. No doubt, you meant to say Ford Ranger…
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
No doubt you're right, Richard.
I wonder why Australians prefer the Toyota Hilux family over the American Toyota Tundra Tacoma , I noticed KZread clips of Australians fixing cars. Most of them are Toyota Hilux
I could be wrong, but isn't this just a Legend 50?
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
Not sure what that is, sorry.
@Locustnesss
Жыл бұрын
In africa yes, same car different badge
Yip the old hilux was brilliant slow but so good. Toyota been livin on that tho. N need to be better.
Have a whole segment dedicated to the tray but don't mention dimensions. WTF?
@Cous1nJack
Жыл бұрын
They have been the same since 2016
The wider track and the rear discs are great upgrades, but too many plastic stick-on bulges make this old underpowered crew-cab look cheap and nasty.
Needs a Detuned 300 series v6 shoe horned into the Hilux otherwise the new Ranger and Amarock will eat it alive in SALES . I am a devoted Hilux N80 owner.
@MussaKZN
Жыл бұрын
Why detuned? I would undoubtedly buy a TD V6 Hilux. I’m a devoted forth generation, fifth generation and sixth generation Hilux owner..
Sigh, they need to bring back the V6 petrol engine.
Sorry but I couldn’t even make it through to the end all it is, is a wider ancient Hilux that is over priced for 10 yo technology
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
OK, thanks
@admin: 😍🤩ROQUE apa masuk Indonesia...??
For that price you can buy a V6 Wildtrak 2023.
@chasingcars
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Long wait, though.
@rd6416
Жыл бұрын
@@chasingcars the wait is the same for the Rogue
@Wilt8v92
Жыл бұрын
A new V6 wild track is over 90K in NZL..
EXCELLENT. TOYOTA. ROGUE. TOYOTA. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I have a Toyota hillux SR5 od 2022 n I love it . There's no difference from Toyota Rogue .Tt has has everything I need I ask for when I order it I. 2021. That's why HILUX is the top selling car in Australia. Ford in no for me
I just wish these at heart basic asf trucks didn’t ask for premium car money 😂
I prefer it over Toyota ranger 😊
It's time Toyota gives us a fresh design of Hilux
Eh..... Hilux would win for Reliability and Customer loyalty But for performance..ranger wins Well..wish the next gen GR Hilux v6 would be extremely beefy and powerful But this one passes my taste, I rode one in this generation and seems small, unlike the 7th gen which is spacious
@ra_redesignautomobiles
Жыл бұрын
And I saw this on Resident Evil 8 Village
@rossawood5075
Жыл бұрын
After all the injector and CAT problems the 2 .8 l Hilux Prado and Fortuna have had including a massive lawsuit won against Toyota in the Australian high court the reliability is very Questionable! Also in regard to sales in Australia, Ranger 4WD outsell Hilux 4 WD Ute's, it's the low priced 2wd trade Hiluxes that make up the greater Hilux sales. Just sayin!
@ra_redesignautomobiles
Жыл бұрын
@@rossawood5075especially on KDs engine, what i dont like about modern hiluxes and fortuner is theyre made in thailand which explains how their reliability is uncertain, Older ones are made in Japan thats why theyre super solid, ive seen those GD diesel engines in real life had overhaul jobs. Its all more complicating especially the time i changed those wire harness. Yet here in Philippines our Fortuner is 1st gen, 2KD at 8K miles and takes literally a beating, only had issues was rats biting our wires. But overall more spacious than the current one. Its basically a revived 4Runner 😅
Did you mention the class action against Toyota with regards to the diesel particulate filters?
go the ranger