It would be so typical of the Oscars if this was the film that broke Glenn Close and/or Amy Adams' Oscar ducks

@Emma-R

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@scottevans9454

3 жыл бұрын

@@themasher4821 The first Star Wars was the only one worth a hill of beans. The rest were mir rewrites of the same story. 🤮

@alphabetaxenonzzzcat

3 жыл бұрын

Glenn Close is long overdue one. She probably should of actually won this year for "The Wife".

@alphabetaxenonzzzcat

3 жыл бұрын

From Kermode's review though, it seems unlikely.

@charliepanayiotou4305

3 жыл бұрын

@@alphabetaxenonzzzcat Maybe, but Darkest Hour/Judy/Bohemian Rhapsody/Joker all being garabage didn't stop those films bagging acting Oscars. Too often the Academy loves the most acting rather than the best acting

Ron Howard is not a bad director but he does so many films you wonder how much he's invested in any one of them

@goodial

3 жыл бұрын

I like some Ron Howard movies quite a lot, but he also seems to be quite hit or miss ...

@Carryduffp

3 жыл бұрын

He's similiar to classic Hollywood directors in that regard

@drmjmrboh

3 жыл бұрын

His best contribution to the world is being the narrator on Arrested

@muhammadalikhan7244

3 жыл бұрын

@@themasher4821 It wasn't his fault don't blame him blame Karen Kennedy aka Darth Feminazi 😂

@Charizarzar

3 жыл бұрын

@@muhammadalikhan7244 People still say feminazi?

This film has been slaughtered so far by critics, let's see what Kermode has to say

@alecneate76

3 жыл бұрын

And wrongfully so

@TheArtkaw

3 жыл бұрын

Ron Howard is slightly better than Brett Ratner. He gets the job done, has some decent directing flourishes, but overall kinda meh.

I completely disagree. Having grown up around people very much like these characters, I was bowled over by the authenticity. Maybe my favorite Amy Adams performance. Everyone has their opinion, but maybe you started watching it being super conscious of the actors and couldn't get over it. The film moved me to tears.

@scottevans9454

3 жыл бұрын

Amen brother

@nickbyrd1027

3 жыл бұрын

Relatable authenticity doesn't make a film good, it just makes it relatable and authentic. As someone from appalachia, I agree that they nailed the authenticity, but that didn't make this film any more engaging or interesting.

@BG-mj1wp

3 жыл бұрын

@@nickbyrd1027 Authenticity makes the viewer feel they're inside the story. What makes a film good is emotionally interesting characters and compelling story. Which this film also had. Strong script with real characters. That IS a good film

@avastans

3 жыл бұрын

@@BG-mj1wp No 😂

@BurdenErnie1

3 жыл бұрын

Better performance than in Enchanted?

Not seen this one, but the words 'look at it rather than watch it' echoes my thoughts on The Great Gatsby Lurhman flick.

If you come from this part of the world, you will know how disturbingly accurate and spot on these performances are. It brought me to tears more than once.

@FunForMe75

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you. I find that most of the criticism of the movie seems to be coming from costal elites who simply cannot relate to movie in even the smallest way.

@nickbyrd1027

3 жыл бұрын

I live in rural appalachia and have for 30 years. Grew up in a town where our town's name was replaced with the prefix "meth-" because of the drug issues. This movie was incredibly spot-on authentic and relatable, but that doesn't make a film actually good. It's kind of like how we think relatable jokes or memes are funny simply because they're relatable, not because they're objectively good. This movie lacked engagement, felt unnecessarily slow at times, and was ultimately a shallow retelling of the original memoir.

@beccawoodward6708

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. My brother was an addict. He often acted very similar to Adam’s’ character. I grew up in rural, small town Ohio at this very same time as Vance. This reminded me very much of what I saw from so many around me. Fortunately, my family was very stable, but others weren’t so lucky

@avastans

3 жыл бұрын

@@FunForMe75 I'm the farthest from a "coastal elite". The movie sucks. You don't have to relate to a movie in order to enjoy it. I don't relate to the problems of a closeted gay black man in the hood yet I loved the movie 'Moonlight'.

I remember when I saw Hillbilly Elegy, I was so depressed and having some anxiety crisis because of Lock-Downs, but seeing this film was like a sort of therapy, then the movie is so wonderful. If you haven't seen it yet, don't wait anymore.

Maybe a lot of people don't believe this. Let me tell you that this was very close to my life. This was not over done. I grew up 50 years earlier and it there was "only" alcohol. There is no difference between alcohol and Oxy. At least in the behavior of the addict.

@lauras3612

3 жыл бұрын

This was very close to the vast majority of people's lives, but that doesn't make most of us "hillbillies."

@scottevans9454

3 жыл бұрын

@@lauras3612 The hillbilly was because this is where he grew up. It is like far too many of our fellow citizens.

Not a novel Mr Kermode. The clue is in the fact that these are real people. As to the movie - Ron Howard has always been Mr Unexciting; time and a place, I guess.

Oops... so we have to wait for part deluxe next week! Thanks Mark.

I feel mark might get rather peeved at the awards this year. With films like this and the trial of the Chicago seven likely to get a lot of attention with other films like never rarely sometimes always and saint maud and many more almost certain to be left by the wayside

@joshmorgan407

3 жыл бұрын

This film is not going to get attention at Oscars. Buzz is not good at all. I just saw it at the theater and the audience was not impressed at all

I see Glenn Close in this and think Mrs. Doubtfire 2.

@scottevans9454

3 жыл бұрын

When I see Glenn Close I think of my grandmother and her five sisters.

Love you Mark

Needs some Billboards I think. 3 maybe.

@goodial

3 жыл бұрын

placed somewhere in Missouri maybe, like Ebbing for example? XD

@ChubbyChecker182

3 жыл бұрын

@@goodial haha, yeah

@saudibirding

Жыл бұрын

Another overhyped movie that in fact sucked big time

Really surprised that Mark has such a bad opinion of the movie. I think it was absolutely brilliant. Probably one of the best movies I've seen in the last year. The characters seem genuin and authentic and I really can't relate to Kermode's feeling of seeing them as actors, just acting. Still really appriciate his opinion.

@antonimartinez9961

Жыл бұрын

25% on rotten tomatoes lmao

I saw French & Saunders' spoof of Cold Mountain and can see how Mark compared Amy Adams to Renee Zellweger in this!

Simon's covid hair is like my covid beard

I thought the trailer was an SNL sketch of a mock trailer without jokes.

For the past 20 years or more there's been a whole genre of books that attempt to explain the South and conservatism, why it is the way it is, why conservatives believe what they do, etc.... Deer Hunting with Jesus is one that I read, along with What's the Matter With Kansas? Part of Albion's Seed does this. Hillbilly Elegy is one of these books, written by a guy who is from the South and at least mildly conservative. I haven't read it, but I want to. So while it is a personal story the political/cultural exploration is important too. How well that translates to the film... I'll see.

@simeonteitelbaum3673

3 жыл бұрын

Chris Arnade's "Dignity" takes a more comprehensive look at the people themselves across the country who have been left to try to survive below the margins

@BrianIrwin

3 жыл бұрын

@@simeonteitelbaum3673 I found the book of Hillybilly , dying of whiteness and dopesick. I just did a quick preview of Dignity, and it seems very promising. Thanks for the recommendation.

@timothy8425

3 жыл бұрын

I feel Hillbilly Elegy is more about poor White America not necessarily the South. Parts of the South are very middle class and a lot of my friends from the South would cringe at the idea that this represented the South.

@douglasdea637

3 жыл бұрын

@@timothy8425 Haven't seen it yet. But the reality much of the South is pretty poor. My guess is this film/book represents a lot, if not most, of the South.

@otsoko66

3 жыл бұрын

@@douglasdea637 Southerner here, with family from and still in Appalachia - all hopelessly bougie (prep schools, country club, high church Episcopalian -- the most common car in my Sister's neck of the woods is a Mercedes SUV). The author was born and raised in western Ohio - the book and film are set in and are about Ohio rust-belt (not Southern) working class, but the author goes out of his way to blame all the 'bad' culture around him being the result of his grandparents coming from eastern Kentucky. So it's all about blaming the South for Northern poverty. It's like blaming Ireland for all the problems of poverty in Liverpool.

This book was not a novel. The book was a memoir If you were not moved watching the movie you have no heart. I balled watching the trailer.

The book is a memoir, not a novel. Big difference.

@bombast718

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, seriously. He's entitled the trash the movie but do a little bit of homework first.

@auntyjo1792

3 жыл бұрын

It's clear from his review that he knows it's based on real people

He says Splash and Apollo 13 when discussing liking Ron Howard, but you have to wonder how much of that is taking good source material and using actors like Tom Hanks has to do with that. I would say the same thing about Rob Reiner. Spinal Tap and Princess Bride are good, but the majority of the people in Spinal Tap have made funny movies like Best In Show and Waiting For Guffman without Rob Reiner.

I have to disagree with Kermode on this. The performances were all stellar and I felt it was engaging throughout.

@TheArtkaw

3 жыл бұрын

Performances were fine, but it was a very emotionally manipulative film.

@shaunm1470

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtkaw Dramas are typically emotionally manipulative.

@alwaysknow3356

2 жыл бұрын

I really liked this film! It was funny and heartbreaking with amazing performances. Some people actually are like caricatures and i think that was the case with these folks - you could even see it from the real life footage of them

hummm, I watched it as well and IMHO thought the acting was very good. I also agree with you that I never got drawn in completely to the film as a whole. Individually as characters I feel there were very good efforts and there were moments each character had but it ultimately wasn't enough. I didn't find it boring though. I found the story to be gripping. perhaps the flashbacks were over used. Not really sure where the direction and editing got off track.

@lauras3612

3 жыл бұрын

I had to fast forward it as it was way too slow and boring. Other families' lives are way more fascinating and/or tragic than this.

Like many other comments, I have to disagree with my usual go-to reviewer. I thought the film was engaging and dramatically well constructed. Seems to be a film critics dislike but audiences love if you look at reviews across the board.

I'm thinking the flash-backs confused the reviewers??? Or it gave drugs a bad name??? Just commenting.

@auntyjo1792

3 жыл бұрын

I wondered if the anti drug stance doesn't chime with the reviewers! I am from a similar background albeit in the UK and I was shouting at the screen (according to my kids in another room! ) Cathartic for me at least.

@auntyjo1792

3 жыл бұрын

@You tube my expectations of all modern films us low tbh. Films that are lauded I find hollow. It's not a great film but I did wonder at the absolute panning it received.

This is how Close really looks,scary

Strongly disagree with this review . This is a brilliant film that examines the psychological pull of familial ties, the co-dependence of an addicted parent, and how it takes just one person who believes in you to propel you onto a different more positive path. It doesn’t play to the usual stereotypical tropes- “anyone from Hicksville is a racist moron”- it doesn’t shy away from the dysfunctions and violence within the family- nor does it shy away from how painfully difficult it can be to pull away from your roots no matter how destructive they are! It is far from boring - it is hugely immersive. Amy Adam and Glenn Close are incredible as are the rest of the cast. Saying that these actors chew up the scenery and over act- is to not understand how some dysfunctional families actually behave this way - as they lurch from one dramatic crisis to another -as generational traumas and psychological damage plays out. I am honestly surprised that so many reviews of this gem of a film are pretty negative. Watch it and judge for yourself. You missed the mark Mark!

@alwaysknow3356

2 жыл бұрын

Amen!

Don't give the whole story away...

lot of fish metaphors in this one

Kermode needs to run a marathon xD

I really enjoyed this movie. Doesn't deserve the hate at all.

It probably could have been better if it was a documentary.

BAFTA for glenn close

shirt previously owned by Mike Tyson. lol.

@scottevans9454

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but when they show the real granny it was hard to tell them apart.

If anyone loves or hates this, you must watch *August Osage County*

Agree on the Amy Adams. Highly disagree on the Glenn Close.

it was a good film.

Why is it that reviews of most Ron Howard films sound eerily the same? Hmmmm...

You do not live in that world. These characters are my family. They look like that. They talk like that. They give the same double messages. Really, this is what the opioid crisis in America looks like. I should say this is one picture of the opioid crisis. Rich people with better manner is another picture.

@bigolehamburger173

3 жыл бұрын

The movie is bad from a movie perspective lol

@lauras3612

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigolehamburger173 Agreed. It's one of the worst I've seen. I'm sure the book is good though.

Don’t listen to these critics because it’s not a lefty movie. It’s actually not political but the critics are all triggered because it’s a story based on a conservative right senators story. If this was a story about a California poor immigrant Hispanic family it would have sweep the Oscar’s , period! This movie is a must watch…it’s a great movie

It’s a bit of a shame( I was quite impressed with Adams’s latest work, such as Sharp Objects, so I’ve been looking forward to seeing this one. Also, I’ve read the book (got frustrated with my reading of Moby Dick dragging for months, and picked it and finished in one day) and thought it to be an engaging read. The trailer (for some reason I thought it’s a mini-series) didn’t look very promising, though. I think I’ll watch it anyway but now my hope lies with The Woman in the Window)

Not very often I disagree with Kermode but I do on this one, I thoroughly enjoyed it, not as good as other similar genre films like A Winter's Bone for example but still a good film so I would urge anyone to ignore kermode's wordy over analysis and watch it and draw your own conclusions Incidentally he states the obvious about watching Amy Adam's and Glen Close acting, cos that's what they do, films are made with actors, what does he expect! It's not a Documentary for christ sake!!

I agree completely with this review

@scottevans9454

3 жыл бұрын

You are wrong. The movie could have been much deeper but that would have killed me. Those people don't really go any deeper. I know because I lived this.

@avastans

3 жыл бұрын

@@scottevans9454 ok the movie is still bad

@lauras3612

3 жыл бұрын

@@avastans It really is. People just say it's good because they can relate to the dysfunctionality of it. But every movie has some element of relatability. Doesn't mean every movie is good.

I liked it.

Glenn Close just nailed it! Oscar!

@IHateSchool57

3 жыл бұрын

we all know that's you glenn

@pinx8850

3 жыл бұрын

@@IHateSchool57 hahaha i don't think so! maybe you should see the movie.

Hit the nail on the head as always Mark. Halfway through, having spent an hour “looking” at Amy Adams acting for all she was worth, I realised the problem with the film is the director. Ron Howard was not the person for this film. It’s clearly a world and subject matter he has absolutely no idea about. Truly terrible film. Worst I’ve seen since The Last Samurai (my previous worst film of all time)

I think this is reviewed knowing this is based on a true story. Watch it as a story when you don’t know what is going to happen next. That way you will enjoy it.

This is a fantastic movie if you are from this back ground the performances are accurate and spread awareness of people who live these type of lives I my self have had to chose between looking after a member and going to uni.

Ron Howard is the most overrated director in modern Hollywood. He jerks getting these exciting properties like DaVinci Code, Heart of the Sea, etc. and always seem to turn them into snooze-fests.

This was a good film 🎥😊

As Latinos we 💯 loved this movie ..... Great Movie 🎥

I thought it was great. Kermode was fairer than most critics. I’d say give it a chance and form your own opinion.

Currently, it' 25% rotten for critics and 81% fresh for the audience on Tomatoes. Being so, it's probably worth a try.

@drasysitalia3461

3 жыл бұрын

@Red I've just watched and I disagree. It's a pretty good academy-awards aiming hollywood kind of movie. Well the kind that was common 20 years ago I would say. Of course you can see that there actors acting, it is after all a movie. I think that the real reason it was panned by critics it's that it shows common, salt of the earth, working class, straight, not-liberal white people dealing with real-life ordinary people real problems. To the liberal elite that must seem so vulgar.

@nickbyrd1027

3 жыл бұрын

@@drasysitalia3461 Interesting to make such generalized judgments on others. I currently live in southern appalachian and have for 30 years. I've seen most of my family end up in jail, the hospital, or the grave because of alcohol and opioid addiction. This film portrays that lifestyle well, very relatable and authentic, but that doesn't make a movie objectively good. This movie was unnecessarily slow at times, lacks deep and compelling character development, and ultimately feels like a shallow rendition of the memoir. When I see a movie poorly rated by critics, but highly rated by the audience, that typically means it's a shallow movie directed for mainstream audiences that feels relatable and easy to digest.

@avastans

3 жыл бұрын

@@drasysitalia3461 There's been way better movies that handle addiction and the working class, it has nothing to do with politics. Of course y'all conservatives, centrists, whatever would think there's an agenda behind it when it's simply a shitty movie. Here's some better movies about the working class and / or addiction: Parasite, Requiem for a Dream, Sorry to Bother You, Bicycle Thieves, Pather Panchali, I Daniel Blake, Moonlight, Taxi Driver, Snowpiercer, Hustlers, Basketball Diaries, A Star is Born (2018), Ben is Back, Beautiful Boy, The Way Back

@PikaYoshi21

3 жыл бұрын

@@drasysitalia3461 Movie critics aren't "elite". Movie critics are poor. Being a movie critic doesn't pay that much. They disliked this movie because it is a bad movie.

@lauras3612

3 жыл бұрын

@@PikaYoshi21 Yep. I agreed with the critics on this one and I'm working class.

That is for glenn close Oscar

@Vortex20000

3 жыл бұрын

Hillbilly Elegy got 30% on rotten tomatoes and 40 on metacritic , possible she won't get not even nominated because she over the top , trying too hard...

@Fran-mg1wq

3 жыл бұрын

@@rowanc88 i got viola in lead but in any case close is going supporting. By the wat respect was delayed till next year

A Jenna Maroney film 😅

@barbarakirk3064

3 жыл бұрын

I so wanted Jonathan Ross to review 'The Rural Juror'!

@herbg4866

3 жыл бұрын

@@barbarakirk3064 the ruuurrr jurrrr 🤣😂

I have read the book and it told me a lot about America - where was their white privilege?

Review another round ffs

I think we watched a different movie. I loved it.

Very good film.

Another one Kermode has got badly wrong....performances were great IMO. And this certainly wasn’t a film devoid of emotion.

And I didn't believe Lord of the Rings was real either, so I guess it gets an F too

The truth is we are always watching actors acting and behaving like other characters. That's what it is.

These days when reviewers slate a movie I'm attracted to that movie. Why let your politics skew your review? Its an excellent movie . In a duplicitous world sincerity can be viewed as duplicity mark.

@Bigbaz86

3 жыл бұрын

@@LKeet6 skew your review not view. Of course politics shape your view but shouldn't get in the way of objective review

@PikaYoshi21

3 жыл бұрын

Did you watch the video? None of these criticisms have anything to do with politics. This is a terrible movie and it has nothing to do with politics.

Its a really good film. People are just being ridiculous for political reasons.

@lauras3612

3 жыл бұрын

Has nothing to do with politics. People always use that excuse when someone doesn't agree with them.

@eazzii_m5408

3 жыл бұрын

@@lauras3612 People always use that excuse? Since when? If you can watch this movie and think, "Yeah, that is one of the worst movies of the year." one of two things are true. either you are have horrible taste in film, or you are too caught up in what you think politically of this film. If that isn't the case, what is the real criticism?

Sad to say I would watch this film determined to hate it. This is based on the extracts I've read of the book and the personality of the author. So I'm glad Mark didn't like it.

Howard is yet another Hollywood entity who’s needed to step aside for a very long time , like Zemeckis, Spielberg, DeNiro, Cruise, etc.. they produce things that look corny and unreal, caricatured and dated. Overdone yet not bountiful. On the nose. Ungenerous and absolutely out of touch with our reality.

Great movie deep a profound. What are you on about 😖

@kevinnoscoe6284

3 жыл бұрын

@@themasher4821 🤣🤣🤣

@kevinnoscoe6284

3 жыл бұрын

@@themasher4821 🤣🤣🤣

Brilliant film. Amy Andrew was fantastic. As usual another critic that hasn't a clue, Kermode just repeating words of all the other critics.

@nadeemchaudhry6585

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nathan-gd7xq or it could be that the critics dont have a clue, what they are talking about!! It wouldn't be the 1st time they have slated a movie and it turns out to be a great movie.

@darkbrandon8431

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nathan-gd7xq *coughs cuties

@darkbrandon8431

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nathan-gd7xq Basically democracy sucks and common people should not have opinions. They suck man. Common masses can only like a movie if the critics like it. Exactly. You need Degrees to review movies.(i am not saying the film is good)

@darkbrandon8431

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nathan-gd7xq Its a joke. I know.

Yep. Nothing fun about an opioid addiction. It's more entertaining to watch if the victims come from Beverly Hills. The scenery is more upscale, the people dress better, the hospital scenes are cleaner, everyone drives better cars, and the children were always headed to an ivy league school. Poverty is boring, drug addiction is sordid, squalid and boring when poor people are affected. Very rarely do any characters on screen appear or sound convincing. As an indictment of the Reagan years and Nancy's just "Say No" campaign while Big Pharma pumped millions of legal addicting drugs into doctors offices and households, and George Bush's CIA aided in paying for the Iran Contra Wars facilitating street drugs, well it lacks connection all the way in the backwoods. However true the through line and however true the pain and anguish the average American has had to endure for the last 40 years, on screen poverty and addiction are boring to most audiences, including the US Government. Been there, done that, just move on because this car wreck has already been done. Can we go back to Hollywood on the other side of the country where death and addiction and surmounting the odds is more stylish, fun, believable and interesting?

Shouty feckwittery...unwatchable cliche fest!

@lauras3612

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The critics are actually right when it comes to this one.

It's against your world view.

@PikaYoshi21

3 жыл бұрын

It's against his world view of wanting movies to be good.

It's the wrong kind of poor people, you look bad in this review.