When you said that she parked her car in the same place and basically had a routine she followed when hiking, my thoughts jumped to something my husband told me many years ago. I rode my horse on trails by myself. My husband told me to not go out the same time every ride, or enter the trail the same place, he said that someone could easily observe my "routine" when riding, that someone could potentially stalk me that way and plan when to try something not good. It made me pause and think. So maybe someone saw where she parked every time and other routines, and planned their attack on her that way. I am really sorry for what happened.

@eucliduschaumeau8813

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking exactly the same thing. This park is surrounded by a big city. Stalkers lurk heavily in such areas. Never follow the same routine.

@debi909

2 жыл бұрын

... Yes!! I even told my sons this ~~

@desertfairychickres4021

2 жыл бұрын

My thought as well.

@bawattsyl

2 жыл бұрын

Wow thank you for sharing that and yes very plausible..I appreciate your feedback 🙏

@The_Red_Pill__

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but they would have attacked her when she was alone.

Why were they hiking at dark 7pm in December!!! Very fishy!!! Can't see anything to enjoy the outdoors and it's freezing. What's up with her friend?? Last to see her alive! He's the first person of interest.

@patriciariddle2997

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!

@teresadvorak6145

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, night time in coldness is when people seek shelter. I don't think this guy was her friend...

@truth4004

2 жыл бұрын

He probably planned it and pushed her in the deep end of the water and left.

@jeffhooper3447

2 жыл бұрын

I grew up here and for 2 years, this was my backyard. These trails are very heavily used year round. It wouldn't be uncommon for me to take my dog out around midnight, in 6" of snow, and see a pack of "fat bikes" riding through. This park runs through one of the busiest cities in Canada, and while parts of it can be quite secluded, you really aren't more than a few hundred meters from civilization

@jeffhooper3447

2 жыл бұрын

Also if you fall into the don river at night, you're not just "swimming" out...

It’s refreshing to find a KZread channel like this where you can tell there is some genuine respect for the victims. Well done sir

@bawattsyl

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I appreciate your kind words 🙏

Hiking at night with a guy friend? No dangerous ledges to fall from, at least not that I've heard about. Very suspicious. Not buying the "accident" theory.

WHY did they "become separated"? There is literally no plausible reason that would happen in those conditions.The entire case rests on this point.

@hanzwind

2 жыл бұрын

See… David Paulides

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

Becoming separated is one of a cluster of several red flags (e.g. time of day), but you're right, it seems striking. A common possibility is that she had to pee. However, the guy who was with her could have said so, but evidently didn't. #sleuththewild

@truth4004

2 жыл бұрын

Her hiking partner probably did it. Maybe drowned her in the water. Or just pushed her in the icy water and she died before she could get out. Or there was a psychopath waiting to jump someone in the woods ( in the freezing temps?).

@trip4923

2 жыл бұрын

I've been hiking many places by myself, with a friend and also with small groups. I often become separated because I tend to walk a bit faster and require a lot less resting than the people I'm with. When I notice I've gone too far ahead, I turn around and walk back towards them until they're in sight. I understand this is a bad practice. But it's not quite as far from a possibility as some are treating it to be. I'm sure this a common occurrence and doesn't in any way point towards fowl play.

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

@@trip4923 It sounds like you have a good practice of staying in sight. This case to me has red flags besides the fact they got separated. The twilight timing is alarming. #sleuththewild

I am an expert hiker but while it is unlikely to get lost in the daytime unless in a real wilderness but everything gets turned around at night. I do not care how much of an trial expert you are. This is why you camp at night.

@joselase6894

2 жыл бұрын

Depending on your environment, friend. In the desert, for instance, you should travel during sundown. Also, I haven't ever had an issues with hiking, day or night. Experience, 7 p's, overconfidence effect, etc.

@sleuththewild

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, but a headlamp and other 10 essentials might make the odds better. #sleuththewild

@danchasteen7629

2 жыл бұрын

He planned her demise,. Perfect time and place to kill someone. Late in the evening? She wouldn't have gone far, because of her own safety. I think he drowned her. And claims she disappeared.

@chrisemerson7743

2 жыл бұрын

I kinda liked hiking at night. We would leave after work, drive 3-4yrs and then hike another 3-4hrs! Depending on the moon phase, I’d sit in the dark for about 10-15min after we parked. It would help our eyes adjust. But hiking at night made it seem like we got to camp much faster. It helps though if the trails are well marked!

I sense that the Man she was with knows more then he’s saying! Why were they hiking so late in the evening? Is it possible that the person she was with attacked and chased her and she fell in the dark and drowned?

@eucliduschaumeau8813

2 жыл бұрын

The man that was with her is definitely a person of interest. Police want to close the case.

@whitedragoness23

2 жыл бұрын

@@eucliduschaumeau8813 I would think he would be, as the fact they went to stroll out in a questionable time and weather. I’m going to assume it wasn’t ruled as foul play as there were no marks on her or signs of struggle. There’s no mention of how deep the water was or of it was rapid or slow moving. Could she have hypothermia set in? I’m assuming that’s a no the other option is a stranger came across her and drowned her.

@truth4004

2 жыл бұрын

Or he simply pushed her in a deep spot.

@truth4004

2 жыл бұрын

@@whitedragoness23 I think her partner drowned her.. pushed her in and ion freezing cold water fully clothed would tire her out very easy. There are even cases of dry drowning.

@whitedragoness23

2 жыл бұрын

@@truth4004 that did occur to me that her “friend” could of drowned her. But what would be the motive? It reminds me too much of other cases where two people go out on unusual times such as middle of the night for a picnic only for one to kill the other

What bothers me is every report says she was found “near” the river. Then how did she drown?

@truth4004

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe she floated to the shore or he dragged her on the shore after she died. And left.

@lealovesthesea

2 жыл бұрын

@@truth4004 suspicious

Such a sad and unsettling end to this poor lady, who knows what happened but may I convey my condolences to Stella's family and friends affected by this tragedy. 🙏 And thanks again for your sensitive and respectful way of sharing another unfortunate event. 🇬🇧❤️

Just wondering if Stella had hiked with this person before and the nature of the relationship. How far in advance had they planned this night hike?

@vis9340

2 жыл бұрын

… yes, Very fishy 🤔⁉️

@truth4004

2 жыл бұрын

I think it said they were long time friends.. maybe he wanted to take it further she said no so he plotted to kill her.

A man went out hiking AT NIGHT with a woman, in freezing or near freezing temperatures, and he allowed himself to be separated from her. Yeah, ok. He did it. If they showed up in the same car, she may have already been dead and he used a "hike" as an alibi for dumping her body in the woods.

@johngreydanus2033

2 жыл бұрын

they would have tested the type of water she drowned in, CSI: the evidence never lies

@The_Defiant_One

2 жыл бұрын

@@johngreydanus2033 You would think. But if you research these types of cases a lot, you find out not every case is handled that way.

@eucliduschaumeau8813

2 жыл бұрын

The "police" in Canada want to close these cases. Liberal policies praise criminals and thumb their noses at victims. Liberals think criminals are "heroes".

@The_Defiant_One

2 жыл бұрын

@@eucliduschaumeau8813 The recent violent and destructive riots across America are evidence of that. Loot and burn down stores and don't go to jail.

@cubby6988

2 жыл бұрын

Yea. how convenient. He drowned her then thinking quickly went to the trail bc that’s what they always did and he knew it would be a perfect area for her to get lost and “drowned”. Most murders go unsolved. All these crime and csi shows give a false sense of that these cases are solved when in reality they are swamped with so many cases they couldn’t possibly thoroughly investigate them all or even have the funds to do it. They are actively working to defund most of them. He was the last person to see her, he killed her.

It appears that those with common sense & who knew Stella are being ignored. I feel for her family & friends that more was not done. Thanks Bryan for bringing it to light.

Who hikes at night at 7:pm You can't see the sights and there are predators out there, and Christmas time is cold and she goes on an evening hike. ?

It's dark out that time of year plus cold. Makes no sense to be out there in December.

@TheMattTrakker

2 жыл бұрын

People don't just stop doing outdoor things all winter

The problem here is what happened that she couldn't scream for help? You don't go into shock that quickly. And per the man with her was separated from him for only a few minutes. How could he be far away enough to not hear her cries for help?

@canidconsulting5118

2 жыл бұрын

Especially at night in the cold, when sound carries and there's less ambient noise, while one would assume the companion would be on alert for any sign of her. Occams razor points to the companion's involvement.

@temerityxd8602

2 жыл бұрын

My guess would be that she slipped and fell, hit her head on something that knocked her out and ended up in the water, which would be a real risk at night.

@canidconsulting5118

2 жыл бұрын

@@temerityxd8602 Yep, I considered that, too, as it's the easiest, most obvious scenario. The deciding factor would be how far from the water on shore they found her body, as they reported it as being near the river, vs something more immediate. On the bank, sure, there's the most plausible scenario. If farther, as was the narrator's implication, and a COD of drowning would include a water related incident that concluded somewhere on land, then yes, still most plausible. Otherwise, it's a problem, and i was left with the impression that being found on shore after having drowned was one of the problematic circumstances, leading me to suspect the companion's possible involvement.

@christianeaster2776

2 жыл бұрын

@@temerityxd8602 That still leaves why they were hiking at night in freezing weather? Why did they get separated?

@TheMattTrakker

2 жыл бұрын

@@christianeaster2776 Do you do outdoor things? People that do, don't just stop doing them for 3-5 months out of the year. I didn't catch if this was a week day, but it could be something as simple as them going after work. At that time of year it gets dark before you leave the office.

I fished for years in the same reservoir and one year the ice gave way. I went in up to my chest and struggled for a minute or so. No way could I have shouted for help. No way. I stumbled for five minutes back up the trail to my dad's truck and had a change of clothes and got the heater on full. A single mistake is all it takes. A second of carelessness.

@plynn136

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds terrifying. Glad you made it out alive. The issue with Stella's death is how she wound up in the water in the first place!

Another great presentation. Although an experienced hiker, it was likely an accidental drowning due to an unfortunate decision. The shocking freezing-cold water and heavy water-laden clothing and boots make survival questionable for even the strongest swimmer. Consider the Eastern Airlines crash in the Everglades many years ago. The plane went down because an expert pilot with decades of flying under his belt was focused on fixing a $3.00 cockpit lightbulb and forgot to fly the plane, not realizing he had accidentally disengaged the auto pilot. His family said he could never have made that mistake, but the black box data proved otherwise. We all use poor judgment at times - I know I have.

@harleyj5919

2 жыл бұрын

I totally understand what you are saying! It is concerning whether foul play was involved. I have ridden motorcycles since age 8. Over 50 yrs & I am a female who could ride motocross like the best of them. The times I got in trouble or made bad decisions wrecking my bike (& sometimes myself) I was young & showing off OR I became over confident because I could ride so well. Eventually realizing no matter what -always have a healthy respect for the bike & my abilities realizing I could have an off day & or mess up!

@stevielund3687

2 жыл бұрын

Truth be told..

@truth4004

2 жыл бұрын

Why didnt her partner see it and report? He had to have done it.

This makes me upset especially when they did not really investigate her case. My condolences to her family.

I can’t get past the hike taking place in the dark in such freezing cold. My condolences to her family. I’m glad they at least got to bring her home and lay her to rest.

@BroodykayBroodyfour

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you on the night hiking part....if she was such an accomplished and experienced hike she wouldn't have been out there. This as more likely the sort of thing a couple drinking buddies wood do to share a bottle or some weed. I am in no way suggesting that's what happened I'm just suggesting her experience wasn't as good as she thought and also It's very odd. As far as the temperature that should be an issue you don't need to be an accomplished hiker to understand what is something most Canadian children understand very early on if fact this as not terribly cold. The daytime high today was -10F by suppertimr it was around -22F with a wind chill of -30 and an advisory for -32 through the night but they wind has died off. There are people hiking along the highway out of my town hey all at breakfast and 4pm or so must if them still went anyway.. But a plausible explanation was she was a good hike and knew these woods but not the weather hypothermia creeps up on ya similar to becoming intoxicated and brings odd behavior and poor judgment. This could explain the separation the climbing of a fence and falling into a river and would only serve to cause mire impairment as well loss of strength and very quickly death. This as only speculation but it's plausible

@fetus2280

2 жыл бұрын

Most of those places are well lit . this isnt some bush in the far north, this is the mid of a major metropolitan city .

Yeah, that's pretty sus that they're hiking in the dark in the cold and she randomly just drowned and he didn't hear her splash in the water or yell when she fell or anything at all.

@teresadvorak6145

2 жыл бұрын

& now he's gone..disappeared.& Stella knew better than to go into the water at cold night

@bennygerow

2 жыл бұрын

@@teresadvorak6145 he's gone? I thought he was officially cleared because the autopsy didn't reveal homicide.

This has many of the Dave Paulides profiles in it. I hope the blood panel on her autopsy was checked for GHB. Then you have the point of separation, which is high on the list. The victim is experienced in the outdoors and is high functioning. The body is found in a body of water, or next to a body of water, with no clear cause of death. The one thing that stands out as not being part of the profile, is that this feels like a case of foul play. The guy that was with her had to be involved somehow.

@ev500sam

2 жыл бұрын

I know, I wonder if, her shoes were missing…? 🤔

I once fell chest deep into a hole that opened up in the ground, while mowing my own front yard in Suburban Chicagoland. Old tree decayed away leaving a void in the Earth. I wonder about how many missing and never found have met this as their fate possibly falling into such a deep and narrow void they suffocate and gone forever. Where else can 2,200 missing per year in Alaska have gone?

@journeysalkebulan

2 жыл бұрын

So you think all the missing in Alaska happen to fall in a hole the same way you did?

@dogscratchedoor

Жыл бұрын

Alaska = Bears Chicago = Deep holes in the backyard

Certainly sounds very suspicious. Many prayers for her family and friends.

This area is within spitting distance of major, well-traveled roads like Bayview Ave. or Pottery Road or the local freeway (Don Valley Parkway). It is right in the city, actually. This brings to mind a fairly recent case of a fit male jogger down at the Lakeshore in Pickering (a suburb of Toronto)who vanished by Lake Ontario and all they found was one shoe. Both seemed to have drowned under highly unusual circumstances. Missing persons, death by misadventure. Hmmmm...

@loulou007eddie2

2 жыл бұрын

Highway LoL 🤣

You didn't talk about her relationship to the man she was hiking with. Was he an ex? A friend? A potential love interest? Her boyfriend? Usually the simple answer is the right answer and to me it seemed very strange that he wouldn't know how they got separated.

December 23rd is pretty fing cold in anywhere Canada. Though if she had fallen into cold water, it would most likely taken her breath away and she would have been in shock almost immediately. Also, the 23rd of December is one day after the winter solstice. It would be full on dark of night by 7pm

You’re a good guy Bryan. Never change. If we had more people like you in this world we wouldn’t need a heaven. Take care ✊🏾

@bawattsyl

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! That's very kind of you and I appreciate your kind words 🙏 I hope you're having a good new year so far🙏

Walk the parks in the daytime. No bruises or scratches? If someone drowned her there would be struggle signs. if I were the family I would have had a separate autopsy.

@eucliduschaumeau8813

2 жыл бұрын

They need to test her blood for GHB.

@colleenkaralee2280

2 жыл бұрын

@@eucliduschaumeau8813 "When taken as a recreational drug, and especially when taken in combination with alcohol or other drugs, GHB can be extremely dangerous." that would be sad to find out.

We may never know... maybe she lost her balance and fell into the water... with the water being so cold... she may have gone into shock after entering the water...

The COD was drowning yet her body was found in a wooded area near the river? I just read an article about it but if she drowned how did she get out of the river? She wasn’t found in the river I guess the fact that she had no injuries but also one article said they were in a ravine. I don’t know the whole case seems odd and extremely unsettling. I just can’t understand why anyone regardless of the frequency of visits to this place would anyone go out in a forest type area in complete darkness and with below zero temperatures. The fact that police appeared to be tight lipped as to the relationship between the deceased nor any information on who he was and is or his whereabouts other than he was cooperating. You have to be so careful today about where and with whom you go it’s as though you can never really know or trust a person.

@medea27

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed... there is so little info & all of it is contradictory, but what it does suggest to me is that Stella wasn't the type of person to 'get lost' hiking at 7pm in the middle of winter. I watched some of the news coverage as well & things don't add up... could be reporters & police getting wires crossed, but the location of her body was nowhere near the trail she was supposedly last seen on. Not to mention that the trail next to where she was found was so wide that they drove the police & coroner's trucks right down to the location. You couldn't miss it, even if you were stumbling around in the freezing dark. I'm normally one to argue how easily people can get lost in a national park or wilderness, but this was an urban park surrounded on all sides by housing, shops & streets. I don't buy any story that includes "and I turned around & she'd vanished."

@gigig3623

2 жыл бұрын

@medea27 I agree that person that was with her made no sense to be. Why would you get separated? Why would she walk off from you in that dark park? I agree one article I read said they both were in a ravine and that’s where she was by the searchers. They never went into great detail about the relationship between her and the male companion. Every article I find is very limited. I’m sorry for her family’s pain and lack of true answers as to what happened to her.

@judithengle7875

2 жыл бұрын

Great point! #sleuththewild

Last seen at 7:00 pm on Dec 23. . . that's at least 2 hours after sunset. It would have been very dark, not to mention freezing cold. Maybe she got disoriented in the dark and fell into the river and drowned? Falling into freezing cold water in pitch black night could be very shocking and disorientating. It doesn't take much water in the airway to drown.

Thank you as always, and prayers for your friends too 🙏🙏 This case definitely seems very odd to me.. Thank you for keeping her story alive🙏

You do such a great job with these sad stories. I never miss your programs! Thank you so much for your kind heart and genuine way.

@bawattsyl

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! That's very kind Marilyn 🙏 I really appreciate your feedback 🙏

An independent autopsy is the only way to have an answer. The result might not change, but something could have been missed.

Two scenarios seem logical. Either she fell and knocked herself out at the river or her "companion" drowned her.

@vis9340

2 жыл бұрын

@Emerald Rider …yep & because he is not her « husband » he is not « accused « 🤔😉‼️

@truth4004

2 жыл бұрын

@@vis9340 Its because theres no tangible evidence i guess.

Very suspicious!

Thanks Bryan for getting this info out, your photography is gorgeous & you can tell you put a lot into it!! 👏😉🌹Hoping you feel all well soon.. Can’t imagine getting how it is to get around after getting hurt, ribs take a long time to heal! GOD bless!! Thank you for your videos, take good care of yourself 🙋‍♀️🤗

why must i watch this channel every day?!?!?! LOVE IT

It should be classified as a (Unknown cause of drowning) due to the fact that no one knows how she drowned or why ? It seems to be a lazy way to remove cases with questions about the causes of deaths .

You don't know who could be lurking around these trails at night,considering the time being 7pm when Stella&her friend arrived for me would be a good reason not to separate regardless of how familiar Stella was with the trail I think those that new Stella well have reason to be concerned they new her the best and should be listened to!!!!! it would be interesting to know how many times Stella had done this trail at night or was it the first time? Thoughts with Stella,her family&friends

Well, darkness changes everything. You can lose direction very easily in the dark. Except, I think sound carries better in the dark, but it's hard to know. So sad. At least her body was found, so that is some closure. I always enjoy your videos, keep them coming!

If she fell into the water, she could have had a cold water shock. There's a technical name for it, but even the best swimmers get it. It's basically that your body does not respond to normal signals, such as to breathe or how to react because your body is so shocked by the water temperature. Those who go into search and rescue a lot of times have to go through a training where they're actually submerged into cold water quickly. They started that after a case about a transport helicopter crash that happened above really cold water. Only one person survived out of 15 or 16 people on the helicopter. He was someone who had experienced jumping or being submerged into cold water. I forget exactly why he had cold water experience, but he survived because the water didn't shock him as much as the others. Even though the chopper was going down and everybody knew it was about to hit the water, and they tried to prepare, they still could not react, and ended up drowning in a helicopter crash that they could have survived.

@janmarchand7294

2 жыл бұрын

Dry Drowning?

@lunatune3714

2 жыл бұрын

When you hit cold water you gasp and swallow water.....the helicopter crash probably was a simple drowning?...If that helicopter immediately was filled with water people would have been trapped, panicked and went down with it....the survivor was trained and didn't panic.

@wncjan

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Also in low temperature water you will loose consiousness in a few minutes and drown.

@SignedOff402

2 жыл бұрын

Unwanted sexual advances is more likely. The guy knows someone important.

@journeysalkebulan

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. Something killed her.

If the male was the only one with her, why did they get separated? A man should if been stuck yo her to make sure they are safe, but what was the reason they split on the trail? It would b part of the story a normal part of the story so why is the reason they separated left out of the story? That is the red flag to me? Was there water in her lungs when she died?

@twistoffate4791

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly... We need many more details.

R.I.P. Miss Stella. Condolences to her family and friends. Never forget.

Seems suspicious to me because that time would be good if you wanted to make sure no one was around out there.

Bryan I find your voice quite comforting.

Point of separation. Found in water. Saying the person drowned when most of us know they didn't drown. Unknown cause of death. Missing 411.

How'd they get separated exactly?

You're right why would they separate at night too. This story sound suspicious to me too.

Why are they went hiking at night time strange..

I've heard this many times in other cases. Someone accompanied by another or in a group "gets separated" yet that specific point isn't' always explained how. I agree that many points in this case don't make sense.

one thing about falling into cold water, if it's deep most drown because they gasp due to the shock and inhale water.. that could explain how quickly she was unable to speak

What a sweet video. You really did right by her! You really care and your work into this video shows it. Take care

Excellent, well researched video that’s compassionately delivered as ALL of your videos are. Please ignore the Trolls, give them no platform.

@bawattsyl

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Gail! I appreciate that 🙏

@gailmiller6333

2 жыл бұрын

@@bawattsyl You’re very welcome.🙏🏿

Absolutely doesn't make sense! That guy should be ashamed of himself for leaving his friend out there! If you go in with a group, you leave with the group!!! Never leave a man behind! If you get separated go back to where you lost seem them or yell out!! Something.. I sure hope he looked for her before she was left all alone:( accident do happen! She could of fallen and hit her head.. depending on injury report

Bryan, I just want to thank you, with all sincerity, for helping me sleep! I enjoy your channel for the content but your voice is so soothing, I rarely make it thru a video on the first try. I guess that’s great for your ad revenue! 😆 I’ll put on one of your videos when I go to bed and next thing I know, I’m waking up the next day, thinking, “dang it. I missed the ending! I guess I’ll try again tonight.” Sometimes it takes all week to get through one video!

I know a young man who's like a son to me. He best friends with my youngest son.. He walked down the road where his car was (just bought it) and vanished..he had called his girlfriend to pick him up but she refused. She's a B****. His name is Chad Wiles Waverly, Tennessee There's a few news videos of him but not much searching...his girlfriend had threatened to shoot him a few time's. The sheriff changed his case from missing to homicide. Nothing of him has been found...I don't understand this. It's been 3 years. His girlfriend didn't waste any time getting a new man.😔

Sounds like the friend.

Hiking partner is my guess…

Drowning in very cold water is easy. Bryan's puzzlement at why she didn't "just call out" for help after falling into the water suggests he has never fallen into freezing cold water. The immediate result is the "cold shock response" - you involuntarily gasp for air and begin hyperventilating. It is almost impossible to call out while you are in this state, and it tends to promote a panic reaction. Worse still, this makes it much more likely that you will inhale water. Even if you don't take on a lungful of water then, within 10 minutes of immersion, you will suffer "cold incapacitation", losing the ability to get out of the water by yourself.

@eucliduschaumeau8813

2 жыл бұрын

Happened to me twice, canoeing in rapids. Your body goes into shock and your clothes become heavy in the water. Falling into freezing water sucks the air right out of your lungs.

@shinywarm6906

2 жыл бұрын

@@eucliduschaumeau8813 exactly, it can go from an ordinary situation to a life threatening one very fast

This is an easy one. The male companion killed her. Case closed.

@conveyor2

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Colombo

@shinobi1kenobi75

2 жыл бұрын

@@conveyor2 : Oh, just one more thing. My wife is looking for some new drapes. Did you buy these drapes?

@twistoffate4791

2 жыл бұрын

@@shinobi1kenobi75 lol

@davebailey4200

2 жыл бұрын

r that's funny

There was definitely foul play involved in Stella’s case. All of the known details make absolute no sense. Wether her male companion was involved her death or he knows more than he’s telling, one thing is for sure, something strange and bizarre happened to Stella that day especially since her cause of death was due to drowning.

Always go into the woods on a hike when it's pitch black, that's the best time, and in freezing weather, even better.

OMG BRYAN I remember when u had under 5k subscribers!!! I just now noticed ur numbers now!!! Good job Bry U definitely deserve it!!!

What a great man you are Bryan.. you are so passionate about your stories and the way you tell them.. thank you for being so nice.. Oo and your very handsome too♥️

I have fished the same off trail area for 20 years about 20min walk to the car. One time The fishing was so great I stayed until dark. It took me 3hours to find my way back with a light. Somehow I walked into some kinda mud bog i didn't even know was there and lost a shoe. The main trail is literally no more than 50 feet from the river at it's furthest point. Scares the shit outta me, It was a truly humbling experience. I went back in the daylight to try and figure where I went wrong and couldn't find a trace.

Makes me wonder if she was deceased prior to arrival at the trail. Could have met there and then went somewhere else in one car, and then returned and was left in the water. Poor investigation?

Nobody walks into a body of water fully clothed in freezing conditions, lies down and drowns them self unless they are at the very bottom line of severe depression.

@larsonfamilyhouse

2 жыл бұрын

Even then it’s questionable. The human body has a survival instinct to not die so that’s like one of the hardest ways ever to kys

@shutyourmouth70

2 жыл бұрын

As someone whohas contemplated suicide, drowning oneself has never made the shortlist as it would be virtually impossible to deliberately drown yourself.

Bryan idk how you, or anybody for that matter, can still venture out on trail after learning of these incredibly odd experiences, some of which actually end up taking your life. I'm uncomfortable just living beside the woods, just a little creeped.

@stevielund3687

2 жыл бұрын

People always think, it can't happen to me only other people until it happens to them.

What’s most unsettling is how urban of a setting this was. Not a huge park by any means. And to be familiar with the trails. I suppose darkness& cold can wreak havoc. But how big is this creek? ….I ride parks & trails like this place all the time in the Atl metro.

Well done Bryan. This is a very curious case for sure. I hike a LOT and alone most times because my husband can't hike with me anymore. I always pray before I hit the trail and tell myself...stay on trail, take no unnecessary risks, keep an eye on any others who you might see on the trail etc...I just don't want to run into the slightly visible see thru saran wrap predator "thing"....that is so unsettling. Thanks Bryan. Your very kind.

LOVE your work B! 💋💋💋

They got separated after he drowned her and left

Two conflicting ideas being presented: 1) she was experienced and knew those trails so well, her dying accidentally on them doesn’t make any sense 2) that her walking partner should have understood the danger of being out there alone, and it doesn’t make sense they weren’t more concerned when they got separated

Hiker Disappears Feet from Partner/Found Dead In River12 hours Later.......gee that doesn't sound suspicious does it? i wonder who the culprit could have been? hmmm....

Saw a video about how people have gone missing (2,250 per year on average) in Alaska. 60,700 since 1988! NEVERMIND the 60K number. Randomly stick 2,250 pins in the map, now wonder to yourself that with that many decaying bodies everywhere why can not cadaver dogs find these missing? There must be something paranormal going on. Slip into a slightly parallel existence?

I’m pretty sure they sell flashlights or headlamps in Canada. These two walk in pitch dark without them? Walking at night is great but you should never ever go out without light and a reflective vest!

As always👍🏼💙, love your channel.

Very Bazaar things take place in the woods...🤔🧐

@twistoffate4791

2 жыл бұрын

Bizarre. (Bazaar is like a market or a fair at which miscellaneous goods are sold.) Have a good night.

Accidental drowning is ridiculous. The amount of people who disappear and are found"Accidentally drowned "is crazy.Makes no sense.

Another botched investigation. Question the male companion further. This case is too bizarre.

What a pile! Nobody goes hiking in the woods at 7 pm at night in December…in Canada. On purpose. It’s pitch black and freezing. Period. (I am Canadian). Typical he did it. Typical RCMP or OPP bungled.

Jesus Christ 🤦🏻‍♂️ How many more people is this going to happen to. Some people think they are hiking experts and hours later they are missing forever. You'd think they would have a bit more common sense? NEVER SPLIT UP OR YOUR SCREWED

I wonder if she was found without her shoes?

People often speculation why people might get separated while hiking. Rarely do people to include that the missing person may have become so freaked out by the hiking partner that the "safer" option was to flee into unfamiliar territory.... Or into the dark.

My g.f. Went to pee while camping in Mexico, and walked off a cliff. She was real good at ballet but could not navigate in the dark.

Possibly a wild animal started chasing her and she jumped in the water trying to get away, just a thought 🤷

@conveyor2

2 жыл бұрын

This is in the middle of a city of 5 million people.

@VitacciRocketGY6150cc

2 жыл бұрын

@@conveyor2 I keep forgetting that Canada doesn't have wild animals 🤦

@kathyrn7423

2 жыл бұрын

@@conveyor2 8.5 million

I know for a fact because it happened to me when I was hiking in an area that I knew very well that when it got dark all familiar parts of the trail disappeared in the darkness . Even though I had a flashlight it was not the very best flashlight because I hadn’t intended to be hiking in the dark and after calming down I decided to just make the best of it stay where I was and wait for daylight and that’s how I was able to get out safely. Sadly this woman did not. I’m curious how they got separated. I too suspect something sinister happened but apparently we will never know.

I'm from there . Its literally a park, so small.

They need to look more closely at her "friend". Who hikes at night?

No way would you hike in the dark freezing Canadian winter for fun! Fishy this is.

Slipping and falling into the river in the dark is a distinct possibility. In freezing temps, hypothermia onset is very quick so it is possible there was no time to escape the water.

This is one of those cases we’ll never have answers

A lot of tin foil hat detectives in the comments. Suggesting it is not normal to go out at 7pm for a walk in a well known area, that she visits frequently, because it was cold, is reaching at best. We do NOT hibernate in Canada in the winter. There are A LOT of winter enthusiasts who would much rather go for a walk in winter than summer, but I digress... It's a good thing (and obvious) the commenters on here are not detectives/police officers/judges/people of power, otherwise there would be a lot of "suspects" wrongly jailed &/or convicted. Sometimes the most obvious & simplest things are hard to interpret and accept. People in the comments don't want the simple explanation to be true, they want some mysterious evil thing to be the only theory explainable. Conspiracists basically. As for the Male companion she was with, I, without a doubt, presume he would be questioned in some capacity that led investigators to eliminate him as the "first suspect", as one commenter used. PS. I lived in Toronto for 32 years, the city is very much alive and busy at 7pm, even in winter! 😉

@franreid8203

2 жыл бұрын

Well, someone is miffed. Relax, people are allowed to speculate, don't take it so personally.

@ItsWillLee

2 жыл бұрын

@@franreid8203 lmao, likewise... Did you read and understand what I commented?...not miffed. I laugh at the conspiracists (like yourself), with nothing taken personally 👍😉 . People are allowed to speculate but not be rebutted?? Oh okay....👍👍👍

So late, and never mind in that region it'll be dark by 430pm. Makes zero sense.

An accident I think she had a fall and fell in the water or she got very cold and died of the cold maybe her eye site wasn't that good at night maybe her touch light ran out sad case

Wow I thought I recognized Brian's voice from somewhere. Congratulations on your channel.

Why are shipping costs more expensive for a female in England? (Time 12:07)

I'm thinking it was in the realm of terminal burrowing, sometimes paradoxical undressing happens right before. I've been interested in cases like this all my life and I think some people break mentally a lot faster than others. I've read about cases where the hypothermic person strips naked and lies in a stream because their brain tells them that this is warmer. Was the body fully clothed in this case?

Interesting case, Bryan. I agree the night time scenario is odd. From your research, what evidence was there that the couple actually went hiking that night? Any other witnesses? How do we know the remains weren't just deposited in the river under cover of darkness?

@vis9340

2 жыл бұрын

…would be interesting to hear the « 911 » call 🤔⁉️ Well it’s Canada ;-( ‼️

@judithengle7875

2 жыл бұрын

You are soo right! The guys on the Behavior panel study 911 calls and suss out the guilty. #sleuththewild