The hobby community: Look! Completely new awesome technique! Never seen before!! Slapchop! Paint your minis in no time! Marco: Hello guys! Today we will paint using Grisalle, a classic academic approach to comprehensive usage of value and volumes. Love your work Marco. Keep the paint flowing.

@tomdanvers

2 жыл бұрын

Haha! That whole 'slap chop is a great new thing' has been grinding my gears :D

@stewartfrancis9188

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomdanvers omg same

@sirbobulous

2 жыл бұрын

@@stewartfrancis9188 Being fair Rob (of SlapChop fame) knows it's not new. He's just leaning into 'the bit' and is better at marketing than most people. He knows the power of a catchy name!

@fallenweeble7453

2 жыл бұрын

@@sirbobulous imo, leaning into 'the bit' for clicks and likes is even worse. Especially because it's taking a centuries old idea and trying to pass it off as your own.

@sirbobulous

2 жыл бұрын

@@fallenweeble7453 But he doesn't? In the first 5 mins of his video he points to other people using drybrush base layers+contrasts (epic duck studios, tale of painters) and suggests people check those out. He's not claiming some great invention. He's just sharing the technique in a way packaged for people who want to speed paint an army with the minimum technical ability.

They look amazing even just in black and white

@gnol4688

2 жыл бұрын

And that’s the problem 😂 I fail in the first step 😂

@slaynnmortis2195

Жыл бұрын

@@gnol4688 yes me too! My white is like "too much pigment" or "Drink, this is water now".

@RedMatter25

Жыл бұрын

Found this while looking for reference for my Cheesestealer Cult, and holy shit yeah, this man's shading is gorgeous

I watch other painters content to get tips and tricks, but I watch Marco Frisoni to learn how to paint.

I'm in between two big workshops and these are precisely the main topics I'm bringing "on tour" these days, so this video is part an anchor for old and new students, a video reference/preview of the workflow and its general mindset, and part me stretching and exercising to be ready for this weekend's event :D Enjoy!

@thealgorerhythm9379

2 жыл бұрын

Was hoping to make it to your Dublin workshop, Marco, but will be away that weekend. Definitely coming to the next one! Hope you have fun 😁

@NightfallTH

2 жыл бұрын

Where may I find more information on your upcoming workshops? Any plans for Germany or Denmark/Sweden?

@MarcoFrisoniNJM

2 жыл бұрын

@@NightfallTH I regularly spam news of the upcoming events on all my socials! Your timing is great because there's something in the planning phase both for Germany and Denmark 😉😉😉

@NightfallTH

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcoFrisoniNJM awesome, looking forward to it :))

When I first got into the hobby circa 2001, there was a guy at my local shop everyone referred to as 'Son of Milkman'. 10 year old me had no idea why that was funny but I did know the guy was a wizard. I was stuck in the realm of base coat > layer > highlight; I hadn't even graduated to using washes. He took the old application of painting with inks and "boosted" them by putting his values down first. It blew my tiny prepubescent brain, how quickly he could build up so much contrast in so few steps. A couple of years ago, I returned to the hobby and underpainting and undershading are now common practice. I still think about that bloke and how he elevated what I thought was possible when painting little toy soldiers. Your videos give me the same vibes as watching him all those years ago. Your dad's not a milkman is he?

@wvjeepguy8178

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure you know, but if you are just doing a bunch of models, you can prime first with black, then use a white primer and spray from above the model to do a similar effect quickly. Not as high quality, but it's ok for doing a lot of models at one time.

I can't get enough of this method with grisaille. So awesome.

I love this so much! One side effect is that this approach can also allow you to practice NMM in a safe manner, as, in the greyscale stage, you can focus entirely on the values and contrast alone, without the additional complexities of chromatic tones. That way, something as complex as NMM is broken down into smaller chunks of mental load and becomes much easier to manage for beginners. Excellent stuff, as always!

Just finished priming and zenithil highlighting an entire set of monster for a game. Now I feel like I should go strip them all and do it this way. Man. Learned so much here today!

Amazing. The greyscale and the full color are both so beautiful but in completely unique ways. Well done!

Amazing will certainly try out the sketch lines to highlight before. The models in just the black and white looked awesome.

One of my favorite videos yet!

Love it. Great demo and explanation. Thanks much, Marco.

Outstanding. Again. Keep it up Marco, your contribution to the community with regards to teaching the understanding of effectful painting processes is unmatched!

You are the best Marco

Beautiful work, Marco!

What a legend!!! So cool can't wait to try this out!!

Excellent video. I was thinking this old painting method would work with glaze mediums and contrasts. So great to see you show it works.

Awesome I was Just starting to pratice the slab job technique so I cant wait for this video!

Wow. It looks great and it is done so easily 😳

Stunning. I have never seen this technique before and I can’t wait to try it. Thanks for sharing your talent!!

Taking this method to my table tonight, thanks for always being inspiring. My next goals are trying to develop such interesting color pallets as you do - and bring more visual interest to my models. Rock on Marco, I hope to catch one of your classes at some point in time.

As always: highly inspirational. I immediately painted my Oldhammer Quest Heroes en gresaille, albeit not as speedy or good as you. Still highly enjoyable. I did not know how I wanted to paint them and this technique allows you to focus solely on light and texture. Millie Gracie!

fantastic as always.

I like teh way this technique turned out. I'll give it a shot. Thanks for sharing.

I absolutely have to try this technique!! Thanks for the awesome video Marco!

I can't belive what I've just seen! I don't really like painting at all but you are true inspiration to do that anyways :)

I'm definitely going to try this.

This is amazing. Thanks for the lesson in Light and control:D

Marco is the true artist from the mini painting community

I take way too long to be able to realistically paint bulk batches of minis. This should help me a lot!!! I can't wait to try this technique! Thank you so much for the great tutorial and expert tips!

great video. I love the way you use contrast paints (mixing, adding retarders, etc.)

I'm comfortable now with the all 'black undercoat + zenithal white ink + black oil wash > make up sponge + acrylic white drybrushing' grisaille technique but this one is far superior. I'm gonna try this white gouache application tomorow! (Every time you publish a new video, I buy some paint the next day, what an odd coincidence :D )

Greetings and respect from Finland! To my eyes these are the most exciting, imaginative and true cartoon fantasy-like Skavens I’ve ever seen. Superb job, and just blows my mind you did this all in 5 hours. Maestro!

this was a great video, I will try this out ! thank you Marco !

Good boy Marco!! 🐶

@MarcoFrisoniNJM

2 жыл бұрын

😁😆😁😘

Love the process, gonna give it a try :)

God I so hope I can make it to at least one of your mind blowing classes! You are an inspiration ❤️

Amazing video! This is something I feel I can do to upgrade my paint jobs :) Thank you :)

Super content once more Marco! I'm going to def. try this approach. So far I only used black with either a smooth white or a drybrushed white. Spending more time on the black and white sketch makes more sense now I've seen it demonstrated.

Great stuff friend 👏 👍

I had no clue what Grisaille was, then i asked you on stream and you told me a bit. I google it and was like wtf... dude why did i not look in to it sooner.... made alot of sence when i listen to art teacher to youtube in my home languish.

Grandissimo Marco, mi trovo sempre a mio agio con il tuo stile di pittura. Questo metodo lo uso e mi piace moltissimo oltre ad essere utile per migliorare. Bravissimo

Wow 👌

Marco, you are an absolute master. You always blow my mind and make me want to get better at painting. I'm still a newbie (second year of miniature painting) but I want more and more. I want to try this sketching technique with a set of minis. Thank you very much from Spain!

You have an amazing style. Love your vids

@MarcoFrisoniNJM

Жыл бұрын

😍😊😍 Thanks a million man!!!

Brilliant video. Looking forward to trying this out. Been on my radar since your Malifaux grisaille video, but now I HAVE to try it :D

As always, an excellent execution of amazing technic into beautiful work... love it man!! I'll give it a go on some of my Cursed City models ive got waiting on me... just build and cleaned the entire setup... loads of plastic just waiting for paint... this will help me get through them more quickly!

Love the Tilean accent... Oh and the paint job is great too

Hey Marco, it was really great for myself, son and wife to meet you at the Bad Moon Cafe two weeks ago. Loved this video, well all of the NJM videos to be honest, keep 'em coming!

Even though I own almost the complete line of contrast paints, I have been mixing contrast medium with artist ink (any inks really) to combine the great properties of both. It seems something that is right up your ally, Marco!

@draadhaai

2 жыл бұрын

I take this same approach (and don't have any contrast). Just mix liquitex inks with vallejo glaze medium is also a great combo.

@Wijkert

2 жыл бұрын

@@draadhaai did a test where I compared 7 different options for mixing up my own "contrast paint". The contrast medium and the glaze medium did act differently. Contrast covered more and created less highlights, glaze medium covered less and created more highlights. Both should have their uses

Truly stunning amazing work! Always love watching your content (though I don't often comment). Thank you for your continued dedication to the hobby and sharing. ❤️

These look amazing, Marco! Congratulations and thanks for sharing! A couple of questions, though: How would you adapt Liquitex Inks for the job of GW's Contrast line? Just medium and retarder, too? How would you compensate for the blue undertones in most blacks when glazing over yellow paints, as they might tend towards the green side of the spectrum? I miss being able to show up at the premiere, but work's got me busy at the usual time! Hope you're doing well!

I picked up the idea from your last grisaille Video with the Malifaux Minis and did that for a Year now. Funny to find this video when returning for more Input :D I sincerely thank you for the awesome content, it is a real game changer

Mitico Marco

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With 1h per model that's epic cool!! I strongly wish myself 🙈

This grisaille method is exactly what I've always been looking for. Are there more video lessons on your technique with this? It's such a wonderful method.

Nice! Cool thing is you can use the older warcry video for the dark elf side

@MarcoFrisoniNJM

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha yeah they are almost the exact same models!!! #noshame lol

I love the look of the grisaille painted minis, and I would love to have that the finish for my Infinity models. I don't have the brush control or precision for what you've done in this video, do you have videos dealing with how to get better at that?

Super effective and clear breakdown of the main stages. That medium retarder water combo comes our very natural and approachable and fun. Always top notch content thanks a lot 🤟😉👍

6:10 "Yeah, let me just casually dot the eyes while I'm casually defining the light"

@MarcoFrisoniNJM

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😉😘

there is a big difference it seems in the way the gouache gets applied on the surface vs acrylic. it looks like you get a lot of unique texture and variation in opacity when you use the gouache. very interesting to see

@Moxiltws

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I noticed that too. I'm gonna get that liquitex gouache tomorow to test this technique. It's very intriguing.

Considering that in 2 days I'm going finally to attend the class, this video helps me to understand better the underpainting! :D in the case of inks (like Liquitex or similar) what approach would you use? I know that inks are more saturated... would you use more water and medium to dilute the inks?

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Already put a like on this Video ! I know it will be very interesting (And Skavens are my favourites !) 😛

This is one of the coolest projects I've ever seen. I love how they turned out. How does one learn to paint in greyscale? I know, I know, practice. What I mean is what practical knowledge do I need to achieve this and where do I find it? Thank you, Marco.

@MarcoFrisoniNJM

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a million!!! And this is one of the best questions ever! Take any picture or cool illustration you like, turn it in black and white on your phone or pc and study how the values make all the heavy lifting 😉. Drawing books and tutorials are also super useful because drawing with pencil on paper you have to create the same kind of 3D modelled greyscale from the empty 2D white page!

I’ve watched nearly all of your videos. They are truly inspirational. I wonder If you have any plans to any free hand designs. Painting designs on shields for example. Thank you for your work 👍

Absolutely mind blowing ! I have to admit one thing, I loved the models in black and white too haha I really have to try that grisaille. Can a noob achieve it... ? That will be interesting anyway I guess !

man i would love to see your take on a sylvaneth model.

Going to try this on my Zombicide set. Cant wait to give it a go. I think zombies will be a good subject for this method. Now to figure out the accompanying super cool accent ;)

дуже цікава техніка. чудове відео

You are truely a, if not the, maestro. You are the same for miniature painting as Sandro Botticelli was for art in general

Hi Marco, thanks for this awesome video! I have a Question: Without contrast paints does this approach work best with inks and medium? Do I lose to much of the value dynamic using "normal" or more opaque acrylics?

You sold me on your style with this easy-to-follow video, Marco. Inks would work fine in the place of the contrasts for the initial staining?

@MarcoFrisoniNJM

Жыл бұрын

😊😁😊! Sure inks are great for this; you just need to tame them with a bit of extra dilution and maybe a drop of medium!

Wonderful video, I’ll have to try it! It’s the perfect video for me because I’m kind of averse to using oil paints because it would be another set of products I’d have to buy, but I already have most of this, just need the retarder and gouache medium.

Oh my lord. I freaking love this comicy sketchy highlighting style I NEED to learn how to do it… but where do i start?

@MarcoFrisoniNJM

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!! The best way to start is to study artworks and illustrations turned in black and white; all the visual information you need is there!

If I was going to recreate this with, say, pro acrylic transparent line, would mixing with contrast medium be necessary?

You are the best miniature painting artist on KZread.

@MarcoFrisoniNJM

Жыл бұрын

😁😊😁😘😘😘

Where can I find these models :O, they look awesome and I don't think I've ever seen these before! As always great paint job, perhaps one day you can teach me in person. If you ever decide to do a special series on making a noob a pro, I volunteer as tribute!

@Bahamutkotd

Жыл бұрын

They are part of the nethermaze starter set for warhammer underworlds.

Would you consider doing some guides on painting miniatures with heavy body artist acrylics? I'm really curious how you would approach painting a mini that way.

@MarcoFrisoniNJM

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah absolutely! I made a big investment of Schmincke PRIMAcryl during Christmas to boost my collection of Liquitex Heavy Body so you'll see them a lot in the next future 😉

@j453

Жыл бұрын

@@MarcoFrisoniNJM AWESOME can't wait!

Question: have You ever tried working with Aquarell paints as washes? Because I think your Oil wash workflow might work there too. Except water based and You would need to fix them with varnish.

Hey Marco great content like always! Question, what kind of medium did you used? Did you use contrast medium?

Hi Marco. I missed this video, only watching it today. This is definitaly a must know technic. You say you spend only 20min for each model to set up the black and white values. It seems your white is quite diluted, almost as a glaze... any tips to achieve such a quick painting with this diluted coat (I guess you need at last 2 or even 3 coats to get your white gradient) ?

@MarcoFrisoniNJM

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! The trick is to work with different consistencies and opacities at the same time; layering full layers takes more time but if you already have an idea of the right values to use you can apply more opaque white on the upper parts and delicate, translucent touches in the lower midtones and shadows!

@Apprendrelapeinturesurfigurine

Жыл бұрын

@@MarcoFrisoniNJM ok so you have a glaze consistency so that you can have translucent layers were you want and you make "stains" on purpose where you want it to be brighter ?

Hello Marco, just discovered your channel, very nice ! Instant Sub ;) I use a very similaur technique that's also fast, but the results are also more "tabletop quality" and not as detailed as your (amazing) work^^ To put it simple : black primer, light grey zenithal, some accentuations on details, and finally basecoats of what fancy the models with TAP Speedpaints^^ Finished a 10 Sicarians squad in +-12hrs :) Very fast and efficient for batch-painting, and the result on the table is very satisfying :) Anyway, thanks for your video, I'll try this on my next HQs I think ;)

I tried to do grisaille for the first time this weekend. Realized I am terrible at it. I think one of the most challenging parts for me is getting a good mix/consistency of the paint. Also realized that leaving black anywhere you want to see color is a horrible idea as the contrast paint loses out every time vs. black.

Amazing work as usual Marco, keen to try this out on a blood bowl team! Do you use a fluid or a gel medium when thinning the acrylic gouache?

Really awesome work Marco, what do you think about to prime in a mid-dark grey instead of black to get a lighter result?

Dam fine lookin rats you got there my friend

Always inspiring Marco! do you think it's possible to reach a similar result with oil paint instead of Contrast paint? I recently fell in love with oils :D

Sì tutto bello ma boh avendo iniziato da poco boh boh sei l'artista più completo in termini di tecniche e cazzo sei italiano 😭 folle complimenti davvero e grazie

Hi Marco, great video as usual. Lots of valuable information. Are the paints at the end of the video the liquitex acrylic gouache as well?

was the medium contrast medium from GW, or can you use acrylic matt medium from liquitex as well?

What about speed paints? Would they work the same way to contrast?

Hello, Marco! Thanks for the great video) in our country there is no way to buy such gouache (what can replace it?

Omg must try, wonder how it'd go at 10mm warmaster

@MarcoFrisoniNJM

Жыл бұрын

It's a great way to work on really small models! Less steps and less stress on micro volumes!

Have you done any mini painting videos with watercolors? How does it compare to other types of paints? Any tips? I just bought some wizkids minis (my first minis, mostly because they come pre-primed) and I'm curious as to the effectiveness of painting with the watercolors I already have (also have some oil paints, I might try using them together, if I feel brave).

Amazing work and technique Marco :) I have a question... Do you mix any mediums or matt varnish along with the white acrylic ink? Or do you just use it straight from the bottle into the airbrush?