One issue with many hi-lo frames that you didn't mention was that it requires buying two different wheel sizes which adds to the complexity of setting it up, and sometimes requires sourcing odd sized wheels like the 47mm on the Masterblades.

The masterblade was the best frame I ever had. Great energy transfer because the metal construction, hi lo like the gc Hilo but with 60 mm wheels on the outer wheels, and it grinded like a freestyle frame

@OneShotThrill

20 күн бұрын

Why “had”? You got rid of them? I have the Masterblades and I see no reason to try anything else for agg after you get the wheels dialed in.

@YEE941

19 күн бұрын

@@OneShotThrill I left em at work and someone took em. I bought one of the last pairs

@thekamikaze789

19 күн бұрын

wow... feels bad dude

All I want is a light-weight 5x150mm banana-rockered frame with a 260mm wheelbase that is slammed like a VW Golf. Of course it should automatically extend the wheelbase when going faster, and switch between flat, rockered 1, 2 or 3mm, by using a remote control, while skating. Thank you for showing all those interesting compromises, though 😁 Maybe a bit out of scope for regular street skating, but there are also the 125-110-110-125 DH350 and DH365 frames. Putting in some 110-100-100-110 wheels would give those a 2.5mm rocker. Curious to try those on some rough roads, some day 🤔

@Thisissoul

17 күн бұрын

haha jup

when we start seeing an 82mm wheel, it will be all over

Got multiple frames here roka pr76, roka 100/80 5wheels, NN Ronin 100x4, Endless 90. Out of all of them I love my NN 100 as they re the most versatile of all I can add wizard in urban flow like piece of cake. I practice new tricks pr76 and finalise them on NN 100. This process works for me the best. After testing countless setups, I have come to conclusion, all I need is pr76 and NN Ronin 100.

Still on Slimline2s and they treat me well in about 80% of cases. Skate them 60/56 or antirocker. Didn't really like the classic wish frames so sold them. Only two I've tried......

Mix5 isn't the only frame which does the staggering. Roka 80/90 is also 3x90 and 2x80

To me frame height seems quite overrated... I put 95mm on my Endless 90ES and it was "harder" to skate... I tried Elements 90 frame on RB Blank, was no fun with 90 wheels but decent with 80mm... Trinity 90 is same height as a 165mm 80 frame but it still feels like 90 😅 Tell me if I am wrong but the wheel size determine how high off the ground your skate tilts and therefore is the main factor for how edge control feels 🤔 So my guess: 100/90/90/100 feels like 4x100 with little more agility but less stability and coasting speed? Maybe it's just me but longer frames with smaller wheels are the way to go also for beginners... My fave frames are Endless 90ES, PS Combat 90 and Ground Control HD80 270mm (also Wizard PR76 but I suck at flow skating 😂)

@Thisissoul

17 күн бұрын

Why dont you like bigger wheels in the same frame?

@ericbernardi8116

17 күн бұрын

@@Thisissoul 1. Buying wheels is not as easy... 2. Wheel rotation isn't working... 3. Looks strange... 4. It's a myth that bigger wheels are faster (if we're not talking speed skaters on competition level)... 5. That extra space you mention is only used by brand new wheels, if you don't change the wheels every other week it is kind of meaningless 😅 6. (Just speculation) Different wheel spacing does not give the same smooth transition on weight transfer... 🤔

Hi-lo just makes so much logical sense to me. I've been using Oysi Mediums for a while and I love them (I ride them at 64/58 and 68/60). Currently I'm on the Kizer Shifts with a 65/60 setup and they have been great as well. If you can get more speed without really compromising ride height, why wouldn't you? This is the only reason I haven't bought the new 4x60 Oysi frames already, because you're getting a smaller split and they're only a little lower to the ground than the Medium chassis, and should be slower compared to the Medium as well. But I know I'll break down and try them because I love Oysi and they make great products.

I bought some frx 80s and have played with the rockering options and have ended up just rockering the front wheel... I love it!!!! I see most more experienced skaters using a longer 4 wheel setup though, in guessing for extra stability... Can you recommend a longer frame that I can rocker the front wheel on by any chance? 😊❤

@Thisissoul

17 күн бұрын

most long wheel based frames have already a rocker in it. Here is the entire selection of 165mm frames for Flow skating www.thisissoul.com/collections/frames?sort_by=best-selling&filter.v.price.gte=&filter.v.price.lte=&filter.p.m.customAttributes.skate-frame-mounting=165mm+mount&filter.p.m.customAttributes.frame-type=Flow+skating

@chrisplayz253

17 күн бұрын

@@Thisissoul thanks for the speedy reply.. What would you say would be a minimum size frame for the added stability I am after. I am still using the standard 243mm frame at the moment

Thanks for cool video❤

@Thisissoul

19 күн бұрын

No problem 😊

Is there any reason for beginner to not choose one of those freestyle frames and stick to a stock frame 4x80mm? Which one is most beginner's friendly?

@Sudegink

20 күн бұрын

If you go with the stock setup first, maybe you'll appreciate after market frame a lot more later on. Other than that I don't think there's any real good reason why you shouldn't pick one of these right from the get go, if you feel the urge to do so.

@kevincollins8620

20 күн бұрын

​@@SudeginkI ride stock first to feel a performance difference if there is one. Great advice. You always want to get the most out of your money

@thekamikaze789

19 күн бұрын

rockered frames might be too nimble for beginners. flat for some stability. after some time, they knew what they wanted and choose a setup acordingly. or stayed of flat and were happy with that

@kevincollins8620

19 күн бұрын

@@thekamikaze789 my first true aggressive skates the Boxcar from Rollerblade had spacers to rocker the wheels high or low. You could even do banana or have your outerwheels lower for my clearance... Salomon frames were similar

@Sudegink

19 күн бұрын

​@@kevincollins8620Totally agreed. I still ride my stock PowerSlide Next 80. Riding them in stock for two summers gave me a good idea of what my style of riding is and what would suit me better. So, the next upgrade is going to be on point 👌

I think we need a new standard UFS for aggressive skating so we don't need to deal with mixed diameters and trying to match profiles.

I tried the Oysi, but I didn't want to grind down my skates to get it to fit

@Thisissoul

17 күн бұрын

you should! just make those wheel wells. And otherwise you can ship/bring the skates to us and we do it for you.

The "Oysi" pronunciation comes from the creator's name, Aloysius.

also yoyo skate frames, with a weird selection of wheels (90 / 72 / 76 / 76 / 90 or 100 / 80 / 84 / 84 / 100 😉

@Thisissoul

19 күн бұрын

yo yo frames are in stock already, but we just have not put them online yet :)

Outside the skatepark, triskates (110s & 125s) outperform 4/5 wheels for simple reasons..they go faster, and maintain speed better, especially on crappy pavement where they run smooth..I know you don't like them but give buyers an informed choice 🤣🤣

@fabricio.gennaro

20 күн бұрын

besides that, great vid ! Also, regarding triskates, you get better curving, more room for slides, and fewer wheels to take care of (yes I'm a fan)

@Thisissoul

19 күн бұрын

speed is not the main thing people lack. It is control, a smooth ride and stability. this is better with the flow frames.

@fabricio.gennaro

19 күн бұрын

​@@Thisissoul The problem is that in LA (ok, at least Argentina) and in many parts of the world, those frames are not available in the local market and are hard to import. Also, it depends on what the skater wants; here I see stability (mostly 4x80) but deficient speed which triskates, that are available, will solve.

Attention to detail 🫡