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@roundlaker0077 жыл бұрын
$4000 cable!?... how they come up with the price for that??? Here's the how I think Mr Cardas made the decision. Hmmm this cable sounds really good, I think, I brought them from China whole sales for $1 per foot. I'll just add a 3 more zeros to that and see how many suckers.. I meant customer will buy these.
@Ramshackled1710 жыл бұрын
OK, so those blue cables are 4K? They cost more than the car I'm driving!
@notaras19859 жыл бұрын
the audiophile insanity is pictured in prices
@ThatFreikugel11 жыл бұрын
Amazing gear and happy holidays
@Nero9000911 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas :) Thank yo for all your Informations, you were the leading factor, that i bought the UE 6000 and I like them very much :)
@baraki80810 жыл бұрын
Damn $2400 is considered cheap. I can build a high-end mid tower with that.
@artiewatts9861
10 жыл бұрын
Right, and how much better do you think your *music* will sound after you've spent the money on said tower ? I'm not a fan of the fact that the best amps cost 5-10K, and the headpones another ~5K, but compared to high-end speaker rigs that isn't considered expensive. Horses for courses.
@baraki808
10 жыл бұрын
Artie Watts I don't know I never seen anyone put a speaker on a mid-tower before even a full tower with huge space never seen it done.
@1inDnile4 жыл бұрын
can you tell me what the pinout is on stax head speakers with regard to colour of wires from stax to din socket. AUGUST 2020
@socalpimp197411 жыл бұрын
Incredible, another fanastic video
@PSXuploads10 жыл бұрын
Beats are better said no one ever
@OfficialStatiz
9 жыл бұрын
Grace Kelly Beats are like those 1 dollar headphones you get at a dollar store, these are like something made from the hand of god himself.
@Lo-Fi-Go11 жыл бұрын
I used to get into high end equipment. I thank god I moved on. But seeing this gear is turning me back on!
@charlesjacques7507 жыл бұрын
Wow nice video and collection of gear. My question is if it is a good idea to get a solid state prior to tube amp? I just like the WOO Sa22 sound but I'm just starting to build a digital system. (I'm an old vintage ('73) Marantz 4415 Quad receiver guy, lol).
@Kedislol11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. On an unrelated comment you really should watch for your health. Your breathing struggle is loud and clear.
@drez1311 жыл бұрын
Jeez you have a cool job Tyll.
@leperlord70788 жыл бұрын
Do i forfeit the warranty if i use something other than a stax amp ? i was told by a stax salesman in Canada that i will indeed lose warranty if i need a warranty claim and i wasnt using a stax amp Aslo , i have an old stax amp i wish to use temporarily until i can afford another amp SR-7/B (may be a numeral 8 my eyes are bad ) Will that drive the SR 009 while i decide which amp i want ? I have Rays Darkstar for my HD 800s . Its very sweet Can the thunderbolt drive my HD800s as well as the Stax SR009 ? Im thinking id sell my Darkstar if thats the case Id also need to ask how well it drove the HD800s as compared to the Darkstar Since its also a pre amp can it also replace my Moon audio Neo that i presently use in my home setup ? Cheers
@rcarloz11 жыл бұрын
You think the mcintosh tube preamp c2300 would be abel to drive the hd 800 properly? It has a 250 ohms phone jack.
@bitpixpr11 жыл бұрын
Hi Tyll Merry Christmas! I have to say thanks a lot for all the great videos you have done this year, they all have been very informative and fun I have a little comment I might get a little hate for it but still, you sound like you are going out of breath a lot of times you seem like a really awesome person and I think you are so it would be awesome if you loose a little weight for your own good :) hope you don't take it as a bad comment have a great new year take care.
@scottwolf11319 жыл бұрын
I've had my SRD 7 and MK III Earspeakers since '78, will never get rid of them.
@TheMrgonzalo0510 жыл бұрын
I think it would be cheaper to have your favorite band come over and play live. Just saying!
@grishav211 жыл бұрын
why not to use a behringer headphone amplifier instead? whats the difference in quality?
@LLorfa11 жыл бұрын
Wish you could test the 009 with the different amps in your FR response type box. Would be interesting to see how the glare you heard on the Liquid Lightning shows up.
@TwelveinchChewbacca11 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always, Tyll. In the video, you tipped your hand about which amp you'd favor overall, but while listening, did you prefer any of the other amps for certain genres? Like the Woo for classical, or the A-10 for jazz? Look forward to your CES reports.
@papagen009 жыл бұрын
I would be interested to know how all these uber high-end amps stack up against vintage receivers such as Yamaha CR-1020 or Marantz 2252 that you can buy for a tiny fraction of the price.
@OriginalMindTrick
9 жыл бұрын
The Yamaha is a terrific amp for the HD800. You need a transformer to run a 009 however and I'm not sure how that would go.
@charlesjacques750
7 жыл бұрын
I own ('73) Marantz 4415 Quad receiver and have used it happily from '73 to 2017. Good investment since I was a college student.
@kbi3511 жыл бұрын
There is the DAC1.. I can vouch for this combination. Futuretech has a amp/dac combo, along with Fostex, that are highly regarded by some.
@marino469111 жыл бұрын
this stuff is just sick man. such big stuff for a headphone. imagine this guys. its crazy man. but also fascinatin
@InnerFidelity11 жыл бұрын
It's in the article.
@latuman11 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between a 300 dollar and a 3000 dollar amplifier and can the sound quality differnce be scientifically quantified with a double blind test? I've been looking for an amplifier to I didnt need to strain my DAC that much, but electronics wise I cant see why 50 dollars worth of parts would cost more prebuilt than about 100 dollars.
@h.p.7346 жыл бұрын
4000$ for a cable... I really hope nobody is stupid enough to buy those
@11ZEPHYR6711 жыл бұрын
Hi Tyll, thanks for all your reviews on the many headphones and amp. Could you tell me what Artists / Bands you listen to while testing the headphones and at what bit-rate, just to clear this detail up for me, because this would tell us this part of the testing equation that I think is vital information. Best wishes.
@nightcutcom11 жыл бұрын
Hi, i currently own a pair of HD-650s using them with asus essense st soundcard. I'm thinking of upgrading to an amp/dac combo and i was if there would be a significant difference switch(im not an audiophile, so for normal ears). My budget is around $500-$1000, could you recommend some dac/amp combos? thanks
@intelgigabyte11 жыл бұрын
I concur with that statement.
@bruno383311 жыл бұрын
What is the best buy of all these amps?
@slowdeepandhard697 жыл бұрын
Hi Can I run a Stax Sr 009 on a Stax SRM-007t Vacuum Tube . Thanks for your time.
@akshat3516
7 жыл бұрын
8LACK8IRD You can but it will sound garbage.
@kbi3511 жыл бұрын
So, it cost 5,000 to make and charge 10,000?
@dho11 жыл бұрын
Aviators aren't bad. I listened to them at a local Target, and they happened to be playing a song that I had at home, Krewella-Killin' It and I went home and I tried comparing it with the headphones I own and I have to admit that the Aviators are pretty good.
@InnerFidelity11 жыл бұрын
Huh. Wasn't aware of them. I'll see what I can do. Looks like an Aviator with a different shape. If so, they're probably pretty good, I like the Aviators.
@seonjie9 жыл бұрын
5k headphone hmmm OK, wait 4k cable Wtf
@imrichbitch.1937
7 жыл бұрын
*_When you hear it, then you'll know. Life is short and modern electrostatics are pure ecstasy. Anyway, much love from beautiful Bangor, Maine where recreational marijuana is legal, home prices are still some of the lowest in the entire nation, auto insurance is the lowest in the entire nation and the scenery is absolute nirvana._*
@sundaru1
5 жыл бұрын
If you ever try it you would not able to bear the mediocre headphone ....try the entry level stax first ...
@EyesackWorley
4 жыл бұрын
yeah all that crap is pure snake oil. Some cables go up to like 30 grand for no reason
@InnerFidelity11 жыл бұрын
Well...I guess I'm trying to say that an HD 600 on a Woo WA3 sounds damn good for under a grand. Putting numbers on it is kinda silly I s'pose. One of the problems I have with the lessor e-stat cans and amps is that I think you can get sound just as good from dynamic systems with much less fuss. But if you want the world's best sound on headphones, you gotta spend the big bux on the 009 and a $5000 amp.
@sainteustatious11 жыл бұрын
how much better can sound get that it makes it worth as much as this stuff is?
@cnbank11 жыл бұрын
Epiphany Acoustics in UK makes fantastic products. They have a O2 like JDS Labs that got several awards. I own their O2 with installed DAC and it's an absolutely amazing sound for the relatively low price. If you're looking to spend less, Electric Avenues PA2V2 is best sound for the lowest price you'll find. Gary makes them himself and sells on eBay with many satisfied customers.
@InnerFidelity11 жыл бұрын
Get the JDS Labs O2 w/DAC.
@alexkozarmedia11 жыл бұрын
You'd be benefiting from songs of a higher bitrate such as FLAC files. You can buy CD's or download flac music then add them to your itunes library (once converted) and ipod if you wish. I'll be getting the dt 990 pro's soon, it'll be interesting to see how they benefit from lossless audio.
@OfficialStatiz9 жыл бұрын
I wanna try these so badly! I have Audio Technica's and im sure that these blow any headphones away.
@superlameusername362
7 жыл бұрын
If you light one side of the cable with butane flame, you can create a hydrogen bomb.
@ZorgDK11 жыл бұрын
nice gear. merry x-man tyll. :)
@lrmcatspaw19 жыл бұрын
So, I heard you like to spend money on audio equipent so we created a 4K audio cable so you can spend more money on your gear.
@Garrettthief10 жыл бұрын
I would love to test the Stax SR-009, I just have Fidelio X1 which should be far far below this category of headphones. Still it would be nice to really experience how much better it can get ;)
@amsync2212
10 жыл бұрын
I have them and the Blue Hawaii, where are you located?
@papagen008 жыл бұрын
Are the same amps good for SR-007 as well?
@akshat3516
7 жыл бұрын
CVArts No
@64akon11 жыл бұрын
you have monster inspiration
@WitheredAnge111 жыл бұрын
Someone who spend 4K$ on a cable is indeed insane. But here, Tyll simply called Cardas and asked for their best, and this is what they sent. Overkill, but funny. I admit I laughed when I read about it.
@Bullmus110 жыл бұрын
How many ehh can you count to? I challange you. I stoped after about 50.
@buca969611 жыл бұрын
ALO Audio Rx MK3-B or Ray Samuels Audio SR-71B
@alexkozarmedia11 жыл бұрын
Do you mean songs bought off the itunes store?? And what are your headphones? It all depends. itunes usually does 256kbps bitrates which is dogshit for these kinds of headphones and amps.
@johns.76099 жыл бұрын
nice looking gear but I stop paying attention when the whole discussion seems centered on how expensive this stuff is. 4 thousand dollar cables, guys? c'mon.
@Geerladenlad6 жыл бұрын
Are these better than the Focal Utopia?
@xeniavader
5 жыл бұрын
Both cans are amazing!!! Stax are ethereal and light, agile, fast. The Focals have meat on the bones, fuller sounding still with insane top end detail. just a different sound signature, can't go wrong with either. -steve
@TaeFace9311 жыл бұрын
Champion.
@gmger611 жыл бұрын
That shirt, that swag.
@PopsSaysGoodShow11 жыл бұрын
Review of skullcandy navigators please? I dont trust anyone but tyll with reviews.
@InnerFidelity11 жыл бұрын
It's sort of like how much better driving gets with a Ferrari. It's a lot better,but there's speed limits and traffic jams. Bad recordings still sound bad, but really good recordings will give you an eargasm.
@Tangylives11 жыл бұрын
That's what happens when the market is small, "high end" and you're getting people to make them for you. That said, enough 7N wire for multiple 3m cables is still pretty expensive for a DIYer, just not $4k expensive. I can't hear the difference between 5N and 7N wire personally. I can hear a small difference between silver and copper though.
@kbi3511 жыл бұрын
Las, if you are curious, just go to a headfi meet.. You can hear amps costing anywhere from 200-4,000 dollars.
@ryanvandenbeukel11 жыл бұрын
Actually lambo's and Ferraris don't use any super special tyre, Michelin pilot supersport, just a Tad nicer than average all season tires. Nothing like buying a nice pre-amp/DAC/amp combo for a pair of electrostats.
@ResilientME11 жыл бұрын
Don't be so quick to blame the bacon. I just started 'the paleo diet' last week. I've lost 5 pounds already and I've had bacon each and every day. Life is good. :) Seriously though, I feel much better. I now feel faster and brighter instead of muddy and slow. ;)
@InnerFidelity11 жыл бұрын
I know. Different camera angle woulda helped, but yeah, too much beer and bacon. I've given up Haagen Dasz...if that helps.
@ThatFreikugel11 жыл бұрын
To each their own.
@goo611 жыл бұрын
I just got hd 650's :D
@Arazand11 жыл бұрын
Also try to do more editing and have a script. Yes it takes more time, but if you can afford it it so worth it. But that way you can simply edit away that stutter and uhm-ing. Of course no of that is possible for show-room videos but that the office/home it will really make a difference. :) Great information as always, didn't know there were so many stax amps... :S (Makes me want to sell on of my arms and both my legs to buy a kit, only need on arm to change the volume and music. ;P )
@kbeam41811 жыл бұрын
You aviators? I find that surprising Tyll.
@shayson13577 жыл бұрын
dac+amp+cables+cans cost close to 13k... for that money I'll trade a bit of speed and clarity and get a floorstanding pair of world class speakers(not the best out there but really really good) plus everyone else can hear music or movie audio with you.
@kbeam41811 жыл бұрын
There is a hiss problem at low levels but honestly I think there alright for what the're designed for. This is my opinion and I don't use these headphones for listening to music.
@Stettenbauer6 жыл бұрын
Sadly missed. Anyone know if any KZread headphone reviewers as high caliber as this guy?
@Stegmutt11 жыл бұрын
I have a solution: bacon ice cream.
@PopsSaysGoodShow11 жыл бұрын
We want CES videos!
@angelite1439 жыл бұрын
watching this making me feel my AKG K240 mkII and HD598 look like crap :( Anyway those are really expensive gears!
@ResilientME11 жыл бұрын
I don't know but if I had gear on that level I'd at least give it a try.
@kbeam41811 жыл бұрын
I guess compared to headphones that cost as much as the stax you're right. turtle beach makes good gaming headsets not good headphones,
@Makaveli45611 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the bling/swag generation.
@kbeam41811 жыл бұрын
I don' think they are bad either, but Tyll doesn't seem like a fan of Skullcandy.
@papagen009 жыл бұрын
Cheaper buying a live concert ticket.
@Dickmanthetard
9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but can you get any band to play live for you without notice, and convince them to play your favorite tunes over and over?
@kbeam41811 жыл бұрын
That's what headphones are all about.
@AliciaBurrito9 жыл бұрын
"These cables were nice and transparent" "$4000 for the cables" Wow... I didn't realize this level of stupidity existed. Congrats.
@drizzd1
9 жыл бұрын
he didn't pay a dime, in the written review he stated that he asked for a set of their best cables for reviewing purposes and they sent them to him to use for free, he said he had no idea there were cables that costly
@BOB2112420
8 жыл бұрын
+Blaziken584 There's nothing stupid about spending your disposable income on things you're passionate about. What might be worth pointing out though is that for a neophyte who gets his hands on a pair (perhaps not the Stax but say the HD 800), that he doesn't necessarily need to spend $1000s for a DAC/Amp to hear the headphones performing at their full potential: Toms Hardware reviewed them a while back, comparing several DACs of varying costs against an integrated motherboard chip, the Realtek ALC889 (a chip that is worth roughly $2), and it turns out the differences are negligible.
@marblegrimes7010
8 жыл бұрын
+Blaziken584 I don't know how old you are but I'm sure you've been around to see the you tube pc enthusiasts going on about their $10000 super set ups well the audio enthusiasts are the real crazies of the entertainment industry in 1980 I auditioned a set up that would have cost me £40000 I was very young but yes these guy's are not stupid but crazy about what they do
@zxSwifty
8 жыл бұрын
+Marble Grimes $4000 Cables are stupid, that's not compareable to $10000 pc's. $5000+ headphoens or $10000+ amps aren't stupid.
@marblegrimes7010
8 жыл бұрын
all I was saying is these guys are extreme personally I think having your ears syringed would be far more cost effective.
@buca969611 жыл бұрын
Those are like the tyres for a Lambo or Ferrari, they cost as much as a normal car.
@Geerladenlad5 жыл бұрын
These prices are chump change in comparison to high end home stereo prices.
@miceblue42511 жыл бұрын
"they were spectacularly transparent as far as I can tell" Well good thing cheap $10 cables sound spectacularly transparent to me cuz there's no way in heck I'm paying over $100 for a cable.
@InnerFidelity11 жыл бұрын
Go to Innerfidelity(dot)com and search for "Comparing world-class Headphones". The first page of the article discusses my listening tests. My main test tracks are 16/44, but I've got a couple of hi-rez track I've begun to use and get used to. I very much believe you have to use track with which you are very, very familiar for this type of testing.
@Edward135i11 жыл бұрын
4g's for a cable, that thing better be made of pure gold wire!
@MoDuZzz11 жыл бұрын
Damn... They make my Xonar Essence One look like a toy...
@kbi3511 жыл бұрын
I seen 21,000 optic cables.. Audiophiles are naive and delusional. I'm all for better cables. I spent 200.00 on a few power cables, but, seriously.. I seen a 3rd party HD800 cable that cost the same as the headphone itself.
@Satfgk11 жыл бұрын
No its not I would never pay above $200 for ANY cable.
@damonnguyen24587 жыл бұрын
New battleship
@DaveK18311 жыл бұрын
he isnt teenager to have slim body... he is fucking grown man.
@WARRIORofHARDCORE11 жыл бұрын
Sorry sir but I am going to have to agree. You won't be alone though I need to lose a good 30 pounds as well.
@jquest438 жыл бұрын
Digital signals sound better on a 4000 $ cable
@SCSI1888
7 жыл бұрын
"Digital Signal" LMFAO!!! What alternate dimension are you from?
@jquest43
7 жыл бұрын
+SCSI im sorry you lack imtelligence.I was using sarcasm.( look it up.)
@jquest43
7 жыл бұрын
+Li Chi Hin no.it can be digital.if theres a D.A. amplifier at point of hearing.you hear in analogue. btw,i was using sarcasm.
@SCSI1888
7 жыл бұрын
Ohh, now it's sarcasm huh? Run away little child, run away.
@suzesiviter6083
6 жыл бұрын
I got the sarcasm, problem is these kind of muppets actually believe it because they havent got a clue about science. They are so stupid; I actually feel some hate towards them; I get the same feeling with Flat Earthers.
@kbeam41811 жыл бұрын
I suppose.
@WhiteLionel11 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, No. however, if you're really nitpicky about your Audio and you're going to listen for infidelities rather than the music, you've spent your money on the wrong thing. I know people who've spent more on the equipment rather than the music, which is just insanity.
@ezvkm778 жыл бұрын
Snake Oil!
@anandhua.b4589
5 жыл бұрын
Only the cables though
@mazurkfsflip11 жыл бұрын
yeh i laughed too. these audio companies are ridiculous with their pricing.
@dho11 жыл бұрын
No audiophile would make that generalization.
@TommyGun814211 жыл бұрын
$1000 for a amp/DAC? You're an audiophile.
@ashneel9911 жыл бұрын
Where the Bottlehead Crack?
@ThatFreikugel11 жыл бұрын
You know what I meant. And no they don't make good gaming headsets. They actually make one of the worst ones available. Nothing but hiss and really shitty sound. Do yourself and get some Sennheiser PC 360s, or if you have the money get yourself some Beyerdynamic MMX300s. Huge difference. I wouldn't take TBs for free.
@suzesiviter60836 жыл бұрын
LOL 4 grand on cables, you have to be a special kind of Muppet to spend that much on cables) Did you know almost every amplifier on the planet uses constant current sources and mirrors?. MOSFET's?...big deal, FET inputs?...so what, this is typical hifi BS to woo those with more money than sense. Then there is the amplifier that if you pay 2 grand more you get a capacitor upgrade, FFS; you could design, develop and manufacture new capacitors that that price, what a rip off. If you want a great amplifier, buy the bench mark amplifier from a well known brand; they will have invested far more on design and development plus they would have made custom silicon. A good example is the old Pioneer A400.
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$4000 cable!?... how they come up with the price for that??? Here's the how I think Mr Cardas made the decision. Hmmm this cable sounds really good, I think, I brought them from China whole sales for $1 per foot. I'll just add a 3 more zeros to that and see how many suckers.. I meant customer will buy these.
OK, so those blue cables are 4K? They cost more than the car I'm driving!
the audiophile insanity is pictured in prices
Amazing gear and happy holidays
Merry Christmas :) Thank yo for all your Informations, you were the leading factor, that i bought the UE 6000 and I like them very much :)
Damn $2400 is considered cheap. I can build a high-end mid tower with that.
@artiewatts9861
10 жыл бұрын
Right, and how much better do you think your *music* will sound after you've spent the money on said tower ? I'm not a fan of the fact that the best amps cost 5-10K, and the headpones another ~5K, but compared to high-end speaker rigs that isn't considered expensive. Horses for courses.
@baraki808
10 жыл бұрын
Artie Watts I don't know I never seen anyone put a speaker on a mid-tower before even a full tower with huge space never seen it done.
can you tell me what the pinout is on stax head speakers with regard to colour of wires from stax to din socket. AUGUST 2020
Incredible, another fanastic video
Beats are better said no one ever
@OfficialStatiz
9 жыл бұрын
Grace Kelly Beats are like those 1 dollar headphones you get at a dollar store, these are like something made from the hand of god himself.
I used to get into high end equipment. I thank god I moved on. But seeing this gear is turning me back on!
Wow nice video and collection of gear. My question is if it is a good idea to get a solid state prior to tube amp? I just like the WOO Sa22 sound but I'm just starting to build a digital system. (I'm an old vintage ('73) Marantz 4415 Quad receiver guy, lol).
Thanks for the video. On an unrelated comment you really should watch for your health. Your breathing struggle is loud and clear.
Jeez you have a cool job Tyll.
Do i forfeit the warranty if i use something other than a stax amp ? i was told by a stax salesman in Canada that i will indeed lose warranty if i need a warranty claim and i wasnt using a stax amp Aslo , i have an old stax amp i wish to use temporarily until i can afford another amp SR-7/B (may be a numeral 8 my eyes are bad ) Will that drive the SR 009 while i decide which amp i want ? I have Rays Darkstar for my HD 800s . Its very sweet Can the thunderbolt drive my HD800s as well as the Stax SR009 ? Im thinking id sell my Darkstar if thats the case Id also need to ask how well it drove the HD800s as compared to the Darkstar Since its also a pre amp can it also replace my Moon audio Neo that i presently use in my home setup ? Cheers
You think the mcintosh tube preamp c2300 would be abel to drive the hd 800 properly? It has a 250 ohms phone jack.
Hi Tyll Merry Christmas! I have to say thanks a lot for all the great videos you have done this year, they all have been very informative and fun I have a little comment I might get a little hate for it but still, you sound like you are going out of breath a lot of times you seem like a really awesome person and I think you are so it would be awesome if you loose a little weight for your own good :) hope you don't take it as a bad comment have a great new year take care.
I've had my SRD 7 and MK III Earspeakers since '78, will never get rid of them.
I think it would be cheaper to have your favorite band come over and play live. Just saying!
why not to use a behringer headphone amplifier instead? whats the difference in quality?
Wish you could test the 009 with the different amps in your FR response type box. Would be interesting to see how the glare you heard on the Liquid Lightning shows up.
Awesome as always, Tyll. In the video, you tipped your hand about which amp you'd favor overall, but while listening, did you prefer any of the other amps for certain genres? Like the Woo for classical, or the A-10 for jazz? Look forward to your CES reports.
I would be interested to know how all these uber high-end amps stack up against vintage receivers such as Yamaha CR-1020 or Marantz 2252 that you can buy for a tiny fraction of the price.
@OriginalMindTrick
9 жыл бұрын
The Yamaha is a terrific amp for the HD800. You need a transformer to run a 009 however and I'm not sure how that would go.
@charlesjacques750
7 жыл бұрын
I own ('73) Marantz 4415 Quad receiver and have used it happily from '73 to 2017. Good investment since I was a college student.
There is the DAC1.. I can vouch for this combination. Futuretech has a amp/dac combo, along with Fostex, that are highly regarded by some.
this stuff is just sick man. such big stuff for a headphone. imagine this guys. its crazy man. but also fascinatin
It's in the article.
What is the difference between a 300 dollar and a 3000 dollar amplifier and can the sound quality differnce be scientifically quantified with a double blind test? I've been looking for an amplifier to I didnt need to strain my DAC that much, but electronics wise I cant see why 50 dollars worth of parts would cost more prebuilt than about 100 dollars.
4000$ for a cable... I really hope nobody is stupid enough to buy those
Hi Tyll, thanks for all your reviews on the many headphones and amp. Could you tell me what Artists / Bands you listen to while testing the headphones and at what bit-rate, just to clear this detail up for me, because this would tell us this part of the testing equation that I think is vital information. Best wishes.
Hi, i currently own a pair of HD-650s using them with asus essense st soundcard. I'm thinking of upgrading to an amp/dac combo and i was if there would be a significant difference switch(im not an audiophile, so for normal ears). My budget is around $500-$1000, could you recommend some dac/amp combos? thanks
I concur with that statement.
What is the best buy of all these amps?
Hi Can I run a Stax Sr 009 on a Stax SRM-007t Vacuum Tube . Thanks for your time.
@akshat3516
7 жыл бұрын
8LACK8IRD You can but it will sound garbage.
So, it cost 5,000 to make and charge 10,000?
Aviators aren't bad. I listened to them at a local Target, and they happened to be playing a song that I had at home, Krewella-Killin' It and I went home and I tried comparing it with the headphones I own and I have to admit that the Aviators are pretty good.
Huh. Wasn't aware of them. I'll see what I can do. Looks like an Aviator with a different shape. If so, they're probably pretty good, I like the Aviators.
5k headphone hmmm OK, wait 4k cable Wtf
@imrichbitch.1937
7 жыл бұрын
*_When you hear it, then you'll know. Life is short and modern electrostatics are pure ecstasy. Anyway, much love from beautiful Bangor, Maine where recreational marijuana is legal, home prices are still some of the lowest in the entire nation, auto insurance is the lowest in the entire nation and the scenery is absolute nirvana._*
@sundaru1
5 жыл бұрын
If you ever try it you would not able to bear the mediocre headphone ....try the entry level stax first ...
@EyesackWorley
4 жыл бұрын
yeah all that crap is pure snake oil. Some cables go up to like 30 grand for no reason
Well...I guess I'm trying to say that an HD 600 on a Woo WA3 sounds damn good for under a grand. Putting numbers on it is kinda silly I s'pose. One of the problems I have with the lessor e-stat cans and amps is that I think you can get sound just as good from dynamic systems with much less fuss. But if you want the world's best sound on headphones, you gotta spend the big bux on the 009 and a $5000 amp.
how much better can sound get that it makes it worth as much as this stuff is?
Epiphany Acoustics in UK makes fantastic products. They have a O2 like JDS Labs that got several awards. I own their O2 with installed DAC and it's an absolutely amazing sound for the relatively low price. If you're looking to spend less, Electric Avenues PA2V2 is best sound for the lowest price you'll find. Gary makes them himself and sells on eBay with many satisfied customers.
Get the JDS Labs O2 w/DAC.
You'd be benefiting from songs of a higher bitrate such as FLAC files. You can buy CD's or download flac music then add them to your itunes library (once converted) and ipod if you wish. I'll be getting the dt 990 pro's soon, it'll be interesting to see how they benefit from lossless audio.
I wanna try these so badly! I have Audio Technica's and im sure that these blow any headphones away.
@superlameusername362
7 жыл бұрын
If you light one side of the cable with butane flame, you can create a hydrogen bomb.
nice gear. merry x-man tyll. :)
So, I heard you like to spend money on audio equipent so we created a 4K audio cable so you can spend more money on your gear.
I would love to test the Stax SR-009, I just have Fidelio X1 which should be far far below this category of headphones. Still it would be nice to really experience how much better it can get ;)
@amsync2212
10 жыл бұрын
I have them and the Blue Hawaii, where are you located?
Are the same amps good for SR-007 as well?
@akshat3516
7 жыл бұрын
CVArts No
you have monster inspiration
Someone who spend 4K$ on a cable is indeed insane. But here, Tyll simply called Cardas and asked for their best, and this is what they sent. Overkill, but funny. I admit I laughed when I read about it.
How many ehh can you count to? I challange you. I stoped after about 50.
ALO Audio Rx MK3-B or Ray Samuels Audio SR-71B
Do you mean songs bought off the itunes store?? And what are your headphones? It all depends. itunes usually does 256kbps bitrates which is dogshit for these kinds of headphones and amps.
nice looking gear but I stop paying attention when the whole discussion seems centered on how expensive this stuff is. 4 thousand dollar cables, guys? c'mon.
Are these better than the Focal Utopia?
@xeniavader
5 жыл бұрын
Both cans are amazing!!! Stax are ethereal and light, agile, fast. The Focals have meat on the bones, fuller sounding still with insane top end detail. just a different sound signature, can't go wrong with either. -steve
Champion.
That shirt, that swag.
Review of skullcandy navigators please? I dont trust anyone but tyll with reviews.
It's sort of like how much better driving gets with a Ferrari. It's a lot better,but there's speed limits and traffic jams. Bad recordings still sound bad, but really good recordings will give you an eargasm.
That's what happens when the market is small, "high end" and you're getting people to make them for you. That said, enough 7N wire for multiple 3m cables is still pretty expensive for a DIYer, just not $4k expensive. I can't hear the difference between 5N and 7N wire personally. I can hear a small difference between silver and copper though.
Las, if you are curious, just go to a headfi meet.. You can hear amps costing anywhere from 200-4,000 dollars.
Actually lambo's and Ferraris don't use any super special tyre, Michelin pilot supersport, just a Tad nicer than average all season tires. Nothing like buying a nice pre-amp/DAC/amp combo for a pair of electrostats.
Don't be so quick to blame the bacon. I just started 'the paleo diet' last week. I've lost 5 pounds already and I've had bacon each and every day. Life is good. :) Seriously though, I feel much better. I now feel faster and brighter instead of muddy and slow. ;)
I know. Different camera angle woulda helped, but yeah, too much beer and bacon. I've given up Haagen Dasz...if that helps.
To each their own.
I just got hd 650's :D
Also try to do more editing and have a script. Yes it takes more time, but if you can afford it it so worth it. But that way you can simply edit away that stutter and uhm-ing. Of course no of that is possible for show-room videos but that the office/home it will really make a difference. :) Great information as always, didn't know there were so many stax amps... :S (Makes me want to sell on of my arms and both my legs to buy a kit, only need on arm to change the volume and music. ;P )
You aviators? I find that surprising Tyll.
dac+amp+cables+cans cost close to 13k... for that money I'll trade a bit of speed and clarity and get a floorstanding pair of world class speakers(not the best out there but really really good) plus everyone else can hear music or movie audio with you.
There is a hiss problem at low levels but honestly I think there alright for what the're designed for. This is my opinion and I don't use these headphones for listening to music.
Sadly missed. Anyone know if any KZread headphone reviewers as high caliber as this guy?
I have a solution: bacon ice cream.
We want CES videos!
watching this making me feel my AKG K240 mkII and HD598 look like crap :( Anyway those are really expensive gears!
I don't know but if I had gear on that level I'd at least give it a try.
I guess compared to headphones that cost as much as the stax you're right. turtle beach makes good gaming headsets not good headphones,
Welcome to the bling/swag generation.
I don' think they are bad either, but Tyll doesn't seem like a fan of Skullcandy.
Cheaper buying a live concert ticket.
@Dickmanthetard
9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but can you get any band to play live for you without notice, and convince them to play your favorite tunes over and over?
That's what headphones are all about.
"These cables were nice and transparent" "$4000 for the cables" Wow... I didn't realize this level of stupidity existed. Congrats.
@drizzd1
9 жыл бұрын
he didn't pay a dime, in the written review he stated that he asked for a set of their best cables for reviewing purposes and they sent them to him to use for free, he said he had no idea there were cables that costly
@BOB2112420
8 жыл бұрын
+Blaziken584 There's nothing stupid about spending your disposable income on things you're passionate about. What might be worth pointing out though is that for a neophyte who gets his hands on a pair (perhaps not the Stax but say the HD 800), that he doesn't necessarily need to spend $1000s for a DAC/Amp to hear the headphones performing at their full potential: Toms Hardware reviewed them a while back, comparing several DACs of varying costs against an integrated motherboard chip, the Realtek ALC889 (a chip that is worth roughly $2), and it turns out the differences are negligible.
@marblegrimes7010
8 жыл бұрын
+Blaziken584 I don't know how old you are but I'm sure you've been around to see the you tube pc enthusiasts going on about their $10000 super set ups well the audio enthusiasts are the real crazies of the entertainment industry in 1980 I auditioned a set up that would have cost me £40000 I was very young but yes these guy's are not stupid but crazy about what they do
@zxSwifty
8 жыл бұрын
+Marble Grimes $4000 Cables are stupid, that's not compareable to $10000 pc's. $5000+ headphoens or $10000+ amps aren't stupid.
@marblegrimes7010
8 жыл бұрын
all I was saying is these guys are extreme personally I think having your ears syringed would be far more cost effective.
Those are like the tyres for a Lambo or Ferrari, they cost as much as a normal car.
These prices are chump change in comparison to high end home stereo prices.
"they were spectacularly transparent as far as I can tell" Well good thing cheap $10 cables sound spectacularly transparent to me cuz there's no way in heck I'm paying over $100 for a cable.
Go to Innerfidelity(dot)com and search for "Comparing world-class Headphones". The first page of the article discusses my listening tests. My main test tracks are 16/44, but I've got a couple of hi-rez track I've begun to use and get used to. I very much believe you have to use track with which you are very, very familiar for this type of testing.
4g's for a cable, that thing better be made of pure gold wire!
Damn... They make my Xonar Essence One look like a toy...
I seen 21,000 optic cables.. Audiophiles are naive and delusional. I'm all for better cables. I spent 200.00 on a few power cables, but, seriously.. I seen a 3rd party HD800 cable that cost the same as the headphone itself.
No its not I would never pay above $200 for ANY cable.
New battleship
he isnt teenager to have slim body... he is fucking grown man.
Sorry sir but I am going to have to agree. You won't be alone though I need to lose a good 30 pounds as well.
Digital signals sound better on a 4000 $ cable
@SCSI1888
7 жыл бұрын
"Digital Signal" LMFAO!!! What alternate dimension are you from?
@jquest43
7 жыл бұрын
+SCSI im sorry you lack imtelligence.I was using sarcasm.( look it up.)
@jquest43
7 жыл бұрын
+Li Chi Hin no.it can be digital.if theres a D.A. amplifier at point of hearing.you hear in analogue. btw,i was using sarcasm.
@SCSI1888
7 жыл бұрын
Ohh, now it's sarcasm huh? Run away little child, run away.
@suzesiviter6083
6 жыл бұрын
I got the sarcasm, problem is these kind of muppets actually believe it because they havent got a clue about science. They are so stupid; I actually feel some hate towards them; I get the same feeling with Flat Earthers.
I suppose.
At the end of the day, No. however, if you're really nitpicky about your Audio and you're going to listen for infidelities rather than the music, you've spent your money on the wrong thing. I know people who've spent more on the equipment rather than the music, which is just insanity.
Snake Oil!
@anandhua.b4589
5 жыл бұрын
Only the cables though
yeh i laughed too. these audio companies are ridiculous with their pricing.
No audiophile would make that generalization.
$1000 for a amp/DAC? You're an audiophile.
Where the Bottlehead Crack?
You know what I meant. And no they don't make good gaming headsets. They actually make one of the worst ones available. Nothing but hiss and really shitty sound. Do yourself and get some Sennheiser PC 360s, or if you have the money get yourself some Beyerdynamic MMX300s. Huge difference. I wouldn't take TBs for free.
LOL 4 grand on cables, you have to be a special kind of Muppet to spend that much on cables) Did you know almost every amplifier on the planet uses constant current sources and mirrors?. MOSFET's?...big deal, FET inputs?...so what, this is typical hifi BS to woo those with more money than sense. Then there is the amplifier that if you pay 2 grand more you get a capacitor upgrade, FFS; you could design, develop and manufacture new capacitors that that price, what a rip off. If you want a great amplifier, buy the bench mark amplifier from a well known brand; they will have invested far more on design and development plus they would have made custom silicon. A good example is the old Pioneer A400.