After trying the sundara closed i thought the best thing about them is well they made sound....

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Pinned!!!

Honest and direct. You don't give 💩💩if a manufacturer gets mad about a negative review. Thank you for being who you are. 1000% agree with this video. I don't understand how either of these get praised by the community. Both are trash and should be discontinued by Hifiman. Keep up the good work.

@4epa1012

5 ай бұрын

EQ? I got both of these headphones and once you EQ them they sound really good! Your nickname actually says it all, you are just being a snob :)

@SnobAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

@@4epa1012 I tried EQ and it didn't help enough to make the purchase worthwhile. Enjoy you 💩 purchases. Hopefully one day you'll realize that spending a few extra dollars will get you a better closed back from Audeze or Dan Clark.

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

@4epa1012 EQ didn't help much IMHO, helped the Sundara Closed more than the R9. Glad you enjoy them. Thanks for the thoughts.

@the12gaugeshotty

5 ай бұрын

They are more popular with those who like to mod their headphones. I know JM Audio actually mods the HE-R9 quite a bit. Supposed to sound good. Custom Cans has done a lot of work on the Sundara Closed with damping kits and a 3D printed ring adapter for different pads.

As always thank you for the honest review,and I still enjoy my Sennheiser HD 660s.

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Awesome, glad you enjoy the 660s 💯

Aerodynamic. Made me chuckle.😀

Thank you 😊

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

My pleasure, you're welcome.

It's astounding how your assessment of the HE-R9 matches my experience. They are just wonky as heck. But I got them for roughly 109 USD, so maybe they're kinda close to how they sound price-wise. I still enjoy them for what they are, but I do understand why a lot of audiophiles steer away from them. Great review.

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Would you say they match their original price though? Wonky indeed. Glad you enjoyed the video.

@verboten8

5 ай бұрын

@TheHonestAudiophile at their original price? Heck no. I only bought them since I enjoy different sound signatures, and that wonkiness is included in those differences I like to hear. Again, thanks for the review, it's an entertaining and informative watch.

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Awesomeness. I had no doubts you'd respond that way.

They dropped the prices of these to less than a third and still they're not very competitive. I got an R10D to see if EQ could make them worth the $300 they cost now and I'm not really sure so far😅

Aerodynamic!

I tried the Dekoni Hifiman Cobalt at CanJam NYC. It has a dynamic driver that Dekoni helped tune to work well with the nice Dekoni pads that come with them. Love your videos!

@TheHonestAudiophile

12 күн бұрын

Interesting. I've not heard the Cobalt.

I think these are meant for bicycle delivery riders A lot of the budget went into making htem aerodynamic,, so that the rider doesn't lose speed wearing them. Plus the lack of sound isolation is so that the delivery rider can hear all the people and vehicles around. Plus if the rider crashes and ruins the cans, they can be replaced at current price of $109. Think of them as disposable delivery rider cans. With the R9 Hifiman is proving that it is willing to develop headphones for niche markets, like delivery riders.

That's where Lady Dimitrescu's lipstick got to...

R10D: bass floods the mids Sundara Closed: too much clamping on the ears, too much clamping on the mids and highs

I heavily enjoy my Sundara Closed! Love them for music listening and gaming as I need closed backs for my noisy environment :)

@TheHonestAudiophile

4 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy the Sundara Closed

THA is the GOAT! Thank you for being honest!

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Thanks 🙏

Oh dear me! Ha! I've become a bit of a fan of Austrian Audio! Nothing beats my HD 6....s though

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Excellent choices, can't go wrong with either.

I don’t think the R9 is for anyone! I think their cheap planar has got to be much better. A better alternative, similar but with better stage and scalability, is the Fidelio X2.

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the thoughts.

I love you Dave

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion. Glad you enjoy the channel content.

Yeah I also found the HE-R9 attrocious sounding in my opinion. However, I was able to save it by opening it up, applying lots of sound dampening to the cups, getting some suede pads for it, and finally applyjng an extreme amount of EQ to it. The soundstage was still a bit weird, but it was much better afterwards, dare I say, good. I think it sounds great now, but it definitely is not the same headphone anymore. The cups were just extremely hollow on the inside, i did not know what Hifiman was thinking.

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Interesting. Modding is an option for those who like that sort of thing. I'm not gifted in that way. Thanks for the comment. Glad you found a way to enjoy the R9.

@jonlister6935

5 ай бұрын

I just got them; £149 here. The bargain of the year as far as I’m concerned. The Sundara Closed is a very decent sounding headphone. I’m extremely pleased with them and glad I managed to get them at such a great price. They are not Sundara open and IMO Hifiman should have made them as a separate model with no reference to the open at all. They are a different tuning and they are closed so entirely contrasting with the open version. I have both and will use the closed when I would otherwise irritate other people by listening to open headphones. I would recommend them to anyone looking for a decent sounding closed back headphone. At £$€149 you really can’t go wrong. Get ‘em while you can I say!

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy the Sundara Closed. Rode NTH-100 is better option for same price IMHO.

I own a Sennheiser 600 series and I'm interested in other headphones with more bass right now, the Sendara Close Back are 150 dollars for that price, are they worth it?

@TheHonestAudiophile

4 ай бұрын

If you want more bass than 600 in closed back, get a Sennheiser HD280 Pro. I also recommend the Rode NTH-100. Sundara Closed is flawed as mentioned in the video.

The Sundara Closed sound really good on the cheap Bluebird M1 on the balanced output. But then again, I am not used to $300 and above headphones or $300 or above dacs. They are also pretty good sounding with my FiiO BTR15 on balanced output. Then again, I am probably not as picky as the Honest Audiophile.

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy them. Thanks for the impressions.

@oijans

5 ай бұрын

The Yongse YS-B1 is a great little portable device. ES9038Q2M & ES9603Q DAC/AMP CHIPSET. Works fantastic with the Sundara closed back on 4.4mm and ldac bt streaming with my Samsung S8. Maybe details might be missing but for the price these days, I can't complain. You've got me going now trying out my various devices. Keep up the good work on my favorite review channel.

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Yongse YS B1 haven't heard it, thanks for the suggestion. Glad you enjoy the channel content.

Isn't the Sundara closed back unbeatable at the 150$ price range ? Your review places these headphones at their starting price according to your recommandation for the Hi-X60

@TheHonestAudiophile

4 ай бұрын

Rode NTH-100, Sennheiser HD280 Pro are both better than the Sundara Closed in my opinion for the $150 price range. Hi-X60 was compared based on starting price and also what I recommend if you are seeking an analytical, neutral presentation.

@NicolasCqr

4 ай бұрын

HD280, really ? These are really cheap headphones @@TheHonestAudiophile

@TheHonestAudiophile

4 ай бұрын

Performance matters the most in my humble opinion.

I've considered picking up the Sundara closed back for a while, especially at its current price. Doesn't seem like I'm missing much. Thanks for keeping it real Dave!

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Glad you found the video helpful.

Nice shirt color

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Thanks

The Austrian Audio Hi-X60 cost $400. Can you recommend something better than the sundara closed backs around their current $150 sale price? Thanks

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Rode NTH-100

@m_yy_m

5 ай бұрын

Thanks

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

My pleasure, you're welcome

@zacholton2844

16 күн бұрын

@@TheHonestAudiophile I have the rodes NTH 100 I like them but I am thinking to upgrade to the sandura OPEN BACK. what should i do?

@zacholton2844

16 күн бұрын

@@TheHonestAudiophile I also have a Holton Audio X AMP which is a 2.5w amp per channel it drives 4 headphone at the same time, really good.

Thanx for the review! Yeah, HFM still can't make good closed headphones. Sad but true))

👍

Sounds like for both of these HiFiMan headphones, it's Nuh-uh-Man.

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

Mhmm that about sums it up.

In my own opinion Hifiman makes great openned planar headphones, but closed headphones just have to put more effort into it LOL

@TheHonestAudiophile

2 ай бұрын

Totally agree 💯

I'm not sure where you're getting the pricing for the HE-R9's at $300, they've been sat at $109 (USD) without the BluMini basically everywhere for the past six months or so. I picked mine up discounted slightly down from that for $90 - honestly as soon as I put them on I was tempted to put them straight back in the box and return them, but fiddled around with them a bit and absolutely love them now. While I get that it's maybe not great to review something positively if it's objectively pretty awful out of the box, they absolutely shine with the appropriate EQ, and I encourage you to try them with it! For me, I can't stand using it for anything rock or mids-centric, but Jazz and Blues (particularly desert blues) sound incredible, and keep my 650's around for everything else.

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

There's a difference in price between the wired only and the wired plus BlueMini on the Hifiman store website that is linked in the description. Glad you enjoy the HE-R9, thanks for the impressions.

The "honest" audiophile is suggesting that $400 headphones sound better than the $150 one, ha! No kidding?! What's next, he'll tell grandmas that a 100k BMW is better than a 30k Prius?

@TheHonestAudiophile

5 ай бұрын

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