HiFiMan Sundara Closed Back Review part 2 + Give away. Frequency plots and sound comparison
Тәжірибелік нұсқаулар және стиль
This time I have a really good listen and compare them to a couple of other models. I also stick them on the rig and take some frequency plots vs some other headphones.
We are giving away this one off pair to one of our subscribers so stick around to the end to find out how to enter
00:00 One off Sundara closed back
02:23 Initial thought while using them for the past week
03:50 Initial thoughts on the sound of the sundara closed back
06:30 Conclusion on the sound vs some other models
09:05 Frequency plot for the sundara closed back
10:13 Burn in - new vs used sundara closed back
10:48 Possible tips for EQ ing sundara closed backs
11:32 Original Sundara VS Sundara closed Frequency plot
13:35 Sundara closed back VS DT1770 Frequency plot
14:34 Sundara closed back VS modified HE400se XY
15:59 Give away details !!!!!!! How to enter
17:35 Update on future Hifiman Sundara closed Video
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What you do here is genuinely amazing. Your channel have a bright future.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks - I hope so ;) although there probably not that many more people who are into this kind of thing ;)
Greetings from Canada! I just recently discovered your channel as I’ve been researching my next acquisition and I’m quite interested in trying some planers. I really enjoy your deconstruction process you have great insight and curiosity about the whichness of why on how these phones all sound. Thanks! I’d really enjoy these and most importantly, I just realized my wife has caught up with me in number of headphones, which will never do! Lol. All joking aside thanks for putting your videos out. I really enjoy them. Cheers
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and good luck in the comp
Never tried a hifi closed back nor planar headphones but I would love to ! The cable also makes the set look quite exciting. Loving the stuff you guys doing !
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ;)
I want them, need a closed back in my collection, but I find it impossible to tell a better joke than 1266s sounding right ;-). Cheers mate, love your guides on midifying cans, keep up the good work!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and good luck ;)
Would love these. I am relatively new to the audiophile hobby, I am already hooked, spent too much money and struggling to justify any of this to friends, family and at times myself. Love it.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
It is always tricky to know when to stop ;)
A new pair of headphones is ALWAYS needed! I'm interested to see what the experience is like as someone who's only used Beyer cans. Also, a video going over cable braiding would be sick - I'm looking at modding my 770s to take a mini xlr connection and making some custom braided cables, but I've no idea how different braids affect cable length...
These look amazing! I've been looking for a pair of closed backs so I'm very intrigued :)
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
I dove head first into the audiophile/headphone world and I've been really enjoying your modding projects. You are The Shoe Surgeon of headphones. The Headphone Surgeon! Thanks for the early review, I have been considering purchasing the open-back Sundara for quite some time (for studio/piano/general listening purposes). The closed-back version could be more suited for the loud city environment I am living in, but I am going to ponder on the graphs and your comments a little more. Cheers!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is a difficult choice
I would definitely love to get my hands on them. I haven't tried to modify planers yet so love to try that, also to see if i could flatten out that uneven graph a bit. So far i have mostly been messing about with various Grado headphones and the Creative labs Cal SE's which are a brilliant headphone for the price. I really is a different experience listening to something you have had a hand in making, there is a certain pride in it. Also thanks for the tips on modifying headphones I've gotten from you for the past year or so.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Glad you are enjoying the hobby and I completely agree
I like to listen to classical music on my open back Sundaras when I'm sober, but I would love to listen to good techno music on the closed back Sundaras when I'm wasted ;) Thanks for the nice vid!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Lol ;)
I'm new to audio world so this is super interesting. Looks like a good reason to learn about EQ and experiment with the tuning. Also super interested and appreciate when the headphone has that personal touch from another person's craftsmanship
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Good Luck ;)
Love your down to earth comparision. Very intersting take on the Closed-back Sundura. Would love to own one sometimes in the future. Thanks for the awesome info.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
Thanks for comparing measurement graphs and speaking about it. It was a straightforward and not deceiving part. I liked it. Need to listen again for mine HiFiMan X4 and listen to your video again)
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@square1162
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans yes, it was at best. I am looking for a better headphones and you did a lot of comparable a!
I'd love those cans! *insert story here about how my life is terrible due to losing my job/pets/house/relatives (pick your favourite) and everything would be fixed if I got some fancy gold headphones for free* But seriously, those Sundaras look awesome. I haven't tried any planars before and I want to hear whatever it is that apparently makes planars so good. Been running with my AKG K371s for a couple years and I love them but I'd also love to be able to switch it up a bit without creating a sinkhole in my wallet :p
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
My hobbies are Cars, Headphones and computers.. My wallet is more sinkhole than wallet now... I feel your pain. Good luck
Thanks for the opportunity! I've been anxiously awaiting a FR graph on these since they were announced. I am really intrigued by your cables as well.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
I'm honestly equally excited about the cable, would love to see what it can do to some high-end cans. And hey, if it's not an improvement, it'd be an amazing strap for my hipster tote bag. Can't let all that work go to waste
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Lol ;)
@kirachouinard3490
Жыл бұрын
it will definitely transmit sound
Yes....that looks awesome.. I'm a modder myself but I use CNC to do some custom grilles for LCD series and Hifiman Eggshapes... My current favorite finishes are black chrome and 24k gold plated. Great to change a muted design to a lively cans. Absolutely worth the effort. Once again great works from you. Appreciate your sharing on how you did it. 👍🏻 Cheers.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
I would love a CNC mill ... at the moment our workshop is above an estate agents so we don't want to annoy them with the sound but if we move it is going on the list of new toys
@martinsoo6332
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans hope 1 day you will have it, im sure you'll get something great out of it. Enjoy!!
I rather recently got into the audio space and even more recently found your channel with a video on the HD660S as I wanted to see how it compared to the HD600 internally and you seem to be one of the few channels who focus on this type of content. The first thing I knew after getting into things is that I needed to upgrade from my Razer Krakens but being new I had little knowledge at the time so I went on a mad youtube and forum research spree for months until I had learnt enough to find myself making the decision to sell all my unused valuables and buy myself an open back Sundara. The day after they were ordered the closed backs were announced but I didn't mind as I learned that open backs provide alot of benefits which I valued over isolation at the time. I ended up not being able to afford the jds labs atom stack to pair these with due to money issues, so for now I'm running them off of motherboard audio which is a noticeable inconvenience but for now I don't mind too much as these still are the best sounding transducer I have ever heard. The higher efficiency of the closed back would have been convenient for me, along with the isolation given I live in an 11 person household, so if these were the same price and had existed at the time I may have gotten the closed pair instead but I got a bit unlucky. I'm contempt not doing anything for now as I have no way of getting the funding to do so, so I just mentally gave up on the idea and am settling for this until I can get the funding, which I plan to do whenever the opportunity arises. But, if I did get these, I wouldn't keep it as having both Sundaras is rather wasteful. I would just enjoy it for a few weeks or so then give it to my friend who owns nothing apart from the infamous m50x and recently I shipped down a Moondrop Chu iem for him which is still a technical performance improvement over the m50x for $20 according to him. He would benefit from these way more than me with his situation being him wanting a wide stage closed back that does not need amplification, and is fine with using EQ so the tonality issues on this would be solved. It is very inconvenient having no amplification being in a noisy household but that inconvenience is not comparable to having only a m50x and being aware that audio gets so much better even without raising the price. Your channel is really helpful in learning more about this hobby and I will continue to watch it either for passing entertainment or for learning about headphones I am interested in myself. Hope you find larger growth in your immediate future as this channel to me is better than a lot of the larger ones. Regardless of who win, you are a great person for helping any random single person have a new brilliant headphone for free especially considering that at the size that you are, this isn't paying for itself in promotion like with the larger channels' giveaways who do them purely as a business decision and typically have a sponsorship with another company so they they aren't paying for it themselves. Cheers.
Hi Jason, thanks for your work in sharing your knowledge of how all these cans work... ok, let the hustle begin!... My cousin's friend kindly gave me an Ableton Live controller after I he had asked me for help with something. He needed to re-record some dialogue from a TV show for a track he was making, as it was obviously unrealistic to get sample clearance(!) He asked me, and I did it earlier this year. It was a cool process, just to be a small part of. Now I have not only ticked off a bucket list item, but also started down the path of music production. I don't currently have any headphones to work at this kind of high fidelity standard. If i'd be lucky enough to get a pair, I think I would get a lot of fun using them to get into a momentum of creating music, as well as just listening for enjoyment of course. I mean i'm not superstitious, but they say good things come in threes. Thinking about it, the controller, along with - not a monophone but rather - a pair of headphones.... 1+2=3. You will be bringing order to the universe, yes! Finally, not to "kitchen sink it" but..... my best friend is called Jason (seriously), and not shy to provide literal documentary evidence of this... that is of course, assuming you are interested to dabble with... nepotism I guess? Cheers!
Great review strange I was looking at the closed back Sundaras a few weeks ago and was waiting for a good review . I bought the Sennheiser hd 6xx mod kit from you ,fantastic difference in sound thanks all the best.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks - glad you enjoyed the mod
@paulhealy6390
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans thanks hope to shop with you soon thanks 👍
Love learning about the new closed back Sundara from your 2 reviews. Seems that Hifiman did improve a bit in term of build quality from your previous video. Love these type of videos that provide lot of new information. I would love to have a chance to win the give away (for once) and heard the headphones myself. Thank you.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ;)
I've been teetering on getting a pair of enthusiast headphones for years now. Would definitely listen to more music, even more often. My life has been on the up and up, and the past 6 months of my life has been a breath of fresh air. Finally have a job where I have some comfort and sustainability. Recently found your vids after doing more research on headphones. Definitely here to stay. I would be over the moon if I won these headphones....but either way, I wanna dive more into the audio-sphere, and will definitely be watching you for a long time to come.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard. Good Luck in the comp
Wow, you went all out to create some amazing looking headphones !!!! Very good idea and the result is beautiful !! Would love to use them to upgrade my sound !
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and good luck
An interesting review. Thankyou.. I have a pair of DT1990, but I found that they are not the best when used in a hospital bed. Too many requests... I was contemplating a pair of DT1770 or DT177x to resolve the issue, but now I have the Closed-Back Sundara's to consider as well. Well done with the custom artwork. The results would look good in pride of place in my loungeroom... I look forward to seeing future projects....
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
I am pretty certain the 1990 and 1770 have the same driver - if you are feeling brave, you could open up the 1990 and plug up all the holes on the inside with plasticine or something and pretty much end up with some 1770s
First time viewer. Love your desk setup, sort of looks like mine. I do like your review style. Subscribed!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard
I think they look amazing and the tuning seems interesting. Also I'm looking forward to the other stuff with the modded Sundara because I have been interested in trying something like this myself but never know where to start.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
I am still learning too
hey, it's probably to late to enter the competition, but I still wanted to say that I really enjoy watching your videos. For one, they seem really honest and direct from the chest and you are clearly enjoying tinkering with cans. I watch your videos mainly because of your joy and excitment and I hope you can grow your channel and business this way. Having just bought the open Sundaras a month ago, I can't justify buying a new set of closed ones to my wife... On the other hand I do fancy an upgrade from my DT770. Life ain't easy... best wishes, BT
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
We do have dome mods for the 770 to squeeze a bit more out of them ;)
Would love these mate. I'll probably just sit around drinking beer listening to music. That's pretty much what I do now anyway. Keep up the good work.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the good life ;)
would be very cool to get them of course. Really have been loving your videos especially the modding stuff since I really love tinkering with stuff and modding my headphones if i can to try to improve them since it's really a pleasure. That clip in waveguide mod on the he400se that you haven't released made me make my own for my pair of OG he400 s i had found, works wonders. Your really the only person making modding videos on headphones on youtube and either im looking at the wrong places but I'm surprised that this part of the hobbby is a smaller than i expected. But maybe thats just cause coming from the switch and keyboard modding scene n that I've got the wrong expectations. Regardless, keep up the awesome content. Thanks jason
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
I really should finish off the HE400 mods and get them out... I am really good at starting projects ... not so good at finishing them ;)
Thank you for the good comparison. This would be the best bang of buck update for my HE-400i, if I win these.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
They would be a good addition to your collection ;) good luck
Thank you for your excellent contribution to the audiophile community.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
No problem
Hey, These Sundara Closed backs look great, great work 👍, I've been using Hifimans quite some time. Lately a pair of Hifiman Edition X V2, A Closed back option would be very useful! And the Sundaras would fill the spot great. You're take on headphone sound is nice to hear.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Good luck ;)
always enjoy your moding. I tried mod with my 58x removing foam, changing cables and so on improves its clarity, soundstage and bass slam. Haven't tried any planer so far. Liked your 400se mod looks amazing. I think big headphone manufacture should hire you.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Lol... I am pretty if someone paid me to do it, it would stop being fun ;)
I certainly would love to win these Sundara closed back. I have the open backs, the more recent revision, and just bought an amplifier that really scales them. First thing that caught my eye with your headphones is that you put a Mexica (Aztec) Sun Stone decal on them. As a Mexican, I say to you: nice touch! The other day I tried using the Sundaras as monitors whilst playing with my band. I kept telling the guitar player: louder mate, louder! I couldn’t hear the click or midi tracks. Eventually, the vocalist takes them off my head, puts them on, has the guitarist play back the midi and he literally fell on his bum. He looks at me and says: these sound great, but put on your iems and get to playing, not time to listen to music. Thanks for your videos and reviews. Have a good one, cheers!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the closed back would be much better for monitoring ;)
Excellent video! I currently own the open back Sundara and love it. Really need to get the closed back since my wife keeps yelling at me to turn the volume down because it’s distracting her! 😂
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Good luck in the comp ;)
Hello! I recently found this channel due to my interest in the Sundara closed back. I was also interested in seeing the changes they did to make it closed back but there’s no way this guy would take it apart! I like how you approach your headphones!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ;)
Love the work done on the headphones!!! love how flashy it looks, want it :D!!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Good luck ;)
Sick video bossman, would love to try these for myself and compare them to my regular sundaras
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and good luck
not that big into the audio hobby yet, as ive just got the old schiit magni modi stack and just a basic hd650 that i got while deployed overseas years ago. loved the video describing the headphones, never had closed back headphones but these have me tempted to buy outright just to have them cause of the review. keep up the great job
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
The frequency graph looks real nice, and the gold + decals look so good omg, love the mod, great work on it. Whoever wins this is going to love em for sure 😀 PS: watching your he400se videos motivated me to get one and i love it, my first planar headset.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
The HE400se have really good bang for the buck
i Made some Cables of my self and know the work but your new cable looks so fancy :D love it
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ;)
I'd love to have a set of these as I've become obsessed with looking for new details in old favourites - I'd also love to see if I can hear any magic coming through your fancy cables!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Yes it is always good when you can hear new things in tracks you did not hear before
Thanks for the video. Of course I would love the Headphone! looks beautiful. I was lucky recently to find a very cheap original HE400 - they sounded good BUT I had an old 1990's Sharwood amp from years ago that Ive never used as I tend to use IEMs, and plugged my DAP into it. Honestly I could not believe how much of a difference it made. Like a mid tier to top tier sound difference. Point being planars enjoy a good amount of power which Im sure we all know here :) but more importantly, (If I may be so bold as to plead with ya'al) where ever possible always seek different synergys with your signal flows - It only takes one [less-than-perfect component in your audio chain to knacker the end sound! ;) Its amazed me over the years how sometimes there is a gem hidden inside headphones that sometimes need a bit of time to get to - different source, pads, cables etc etc (Ive heard of this company called 'Bustin Mams'? Something like that? who do superb cables...maybe you heard of them? - should be easy enough to find )
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Yes .. they do need a good chunk of power to get the best out of them
@jopar3292
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans It never ceases to impress me the amount of incredible quality that came out of the 1990's - Sennhesier HD 540 / HD 250. Beyerdynamic DT 880 600ohm - even the 1980's Beyer DT770 is WAY better than the modern versions - much more natural and linear AKG Sextett etc etc
Huge fan of Custom Cans, loved my modded DT990 from you! Interested to try the closed back Sundara as I never fully got the hype behind the open backs and wonder how these compare!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
They would be a good pairing as they are very different, I suspect you would hear totally different things swapping between 990s and these... good luck
I like the mods on this channel very much, and demonstrators don't hesitate to share the transformation process and results with everyone. It is beneficial for fans who are interested in DIY! I have an original SUNDARA, I like its sound very much, I don't know if the new version will suit my appetite :)
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ;)
Beautiful work as always. I own a pair of HE-400i(gen2) which I have modded a bit, nothing fancy. My wife would love if I had a pair if closed back headphones instead though.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
;) good luck
Thanks for the great 2 part review. I found your channel looking for a review of this very headphone and now I'm a subscriber a looking forward to more reviews. I would like to win the Sundara closedbacks so I can walk around sparking joy in peoples lives with the great look you guys have added to the headphones.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome aboard
Really interested to get one of these! I'm currently appaled by hifiman qc on my edition xs when the unit I got had rattle on the right side. Even before the rattle, I felt like the advertised "bass" was not really there; even the sundara open back new revision had more bass impact. I hope these sundara closed edition will scratch the itch of the basshead junkie I am!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
I am sure they would .... Good luck
Amazing video, first of all. You really went all out on these! No dogs exploding or anything but man, the cable is so overkill I'd enter a giveaway just for that. Other than that, well, I'd really like to thank you for the helpful content you have made on this channel. Did the DT770 cable mod + weights this summer and it was so easy thanks to the step-by-step guide. So, a big thanks.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and glad you enjoyed modding the 770s - they do come apart really nicely so the beyerdynamic designers get a big thumbs up from me
@LauriHuu
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans It's a nice design and fairly easy to deal with but still, removing the ifs and buts really helped. And finally ended the misery of having meters of cable on the floor
Hi, love your laid back approach I feel chilled but entertaingly informed. I'm new to the hi-res audio file scene and enjoying every moment. My feeble attempt at a Joke "What's the difference between a Cat and a Comma? A Cat has claws at the end of his paws; A Comma is a Pause at the end of a Clause".
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Lol ... Good luck in the comp ;)
Hi Jason! To be honest I just want to take part on the giveaway to get your new cable (from your last video) for my focal clear :D
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Well.... Luckily the hifiman and focals both take the same kind of connection .... Good luck ;)
I'm sure they would help me focusing in working from home as my neighbor has quadruplets hahaha. I have a 560s, and I'm looking over for a closed back and this was launched, so here I am. Great video guys, keep up the great work
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ;)
Hi man, I've followed some of your he400 se mod videos, but didn't subscribe until now. I'd love to win these headphones. I loved the Sundara when I had a pair, but I sold them looking for something closed back. Haven't pulled the trigger on anything, but having a closed back Sundara to keep the dementors away while listening would be phenomenal. Also, they look trés chique, certain to impress my coworkers. 😉
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard and good luck in the comp
Nice test / compare. I'll stick with my Sennheiser 590's just put new/oem pads on them and the dt770's eq'ed a little are working fine for me at least for the time being. Always checking out the new stuff tho' ..Love your mod videos..
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ;)
The Sundara alwayes looked awesome imo, and then u slapped 24 karat gold on them, thats baller. I would love these since I cant use open back headphones bc I would annoy everyone I live with and the sundara seems like a great pair of headphones!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and good luck in the comp
I would love these! I'm going to pick up my first amp/dac stack this week, so this would be the icing on the 🍰.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
They do respond well to being amped
@ItsWhatever736
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans I'm going to be honest. I haven't seen your channel before this video. Last 2 years I've became obsessed with audio/music. I've looked around your channel and it's really something else man haha. It looks like another thing I've looked at which is custom sneakers.
Hello, first time watching the live. I may need a closed back now that life is changing, I would love to get this famous fusion of the both. Anyway it was nice chatting, and good luck everyone.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
I am super embarrassed to say that I got caught up in something and missed the live premier. Good luck to you too sir
Sweet custom cans from custom cans here! Loving the gold, I am a high schooler who has the grado sr60x (I love them for open backs, I have dekoni custom pads for them), I would absolutely love using these closed back custom cans. Good luck to those who enter! I hope the winner uses them well!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Good Luck
I just love watching people messing w electronic lol because i wouldnt dare diy it myself(for now XD). The thought of being able to change termination in headphone wouldn't even cross my mind until i watch your video man. great job keep it up, in the future can we expect some more model being modded? would love to see something like the Hifiman edition XS or ATH R70x
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Glad you are enjoying it ;)
I've just finished my moorish grill mod for my HE400i 2020. It looks stunning! It would match perfectly your modded closed back Sundara with the mayan calendar :-) Cheers!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Very nice! Good luck
That gold Sundara Closed looks absolutely amazing, and I'd love to have it alongside my OG Sundara!
Quite new to the audio community but just found your channel not too long ago when looking up how to do a detachable cable mod on my 990's. Your channel has inspired the tinkerer inside me to start doing projects again. But to be honest a little too scared to attempt the detachable cable on my own, so I plan on buying one of your send in services as an early birthday present to myself! On a similar note I bought the DT990 premiums last year instead of the pros and would love to see it torn down on channel as well as your thoughts on the differences in sound, because the inner earcup seems quite a bit different for the premiums and would like to hear your opinions. Thank you for making such great informative content. I can dream of winning but regardless I hope these cans go to a good home!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I must get a pair in to have a play with at some point. We order beyer stock 3 months in advance so I won't be able to get some until Xmas now but I will try to get some then
@tokiwartooth5950
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans I plan on sending them in within the next week or so, feel free to tinker around and use them for a video if you want!
Your artwork on the Sundara Closed is very classy, and the cables are The Chefs Kiss! I would love to show them off around the city (Philadelphia)! Love your designs! One LOVE! Cheers!!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Philidelphia... I suspect that ... On the playground was where you spent most of your days. Chillin' out, maxin', relaxin', all cool And all shootin' some b-ball outside of the school
@gdemirjian
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans yup, but no smacking the comedian at the awards banquet... lol.
Well boy did I learn an amazing amount from your videos on headphones. Looking to massively upgrade the sound of my music and got an iFi hipdoc2, needed some quality headphones (to move up from the Sony WH-1000XM4's) and was recommended the upcoming Sundara Closed Backs in Australia, but not out here yet (we seem to be the last to get new stuff, clearly!!) so did the research, and learned a huge amount from you, thank you!!! Would I like to win, heck yes, and I love the design you developed on the headphone cups, sort of Incan/Buddhist mandala, very cool.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the videos and good luck in the comp
@jameskeene2898
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans Thank you, I wish me luck in the comp too, but hey, even if I don't win, I still value your vlog. It is very interesting to learn from. I use some of the ways you describe sound to become more aware of what I should be listening out for and to start to understand the way to break down the different aspects of the sound. Thank you. James
Jason the Gray has spoken! His magic words influence the custom headphone community on a daily basis! Thank you for your not-so-precise description of these wooden beauties!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
No Problem ;) Thatnks
Bring on the bling...great work, hard to find good closed backs...
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ;)
I have used Audeze's Penrose for over a year. They're also closed planars but with an integrated DAC. Even the input jack is reprocessed by it. As a newbie to planar headphones, they've impressed me with their detailed upper mids. I consider replacing them though because of their internal DAC and the uncomfortable headband, despite their low weight. I'm curious what thoughts went into the two different headband approaches of HiFiMan. So if the giveaway is still open, I certainly would appreciate the chance. Great job with these golden ones btw.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
I think you are just in time - we should be choosing comments today ;)
Great review, you are better at describing sound than you give yourself credit. I've been using the OPPO PM-3 for 6 years now as my portable closed back, the leather looks like it's gotten in a fight with a wolverine, she's beyond ready for retirement haha. I'd give it away but the receiver would have to be as good as you at refurbishing/modding headphones. It does hold a special place in my heart though, being the first closed-back planar ever, and it's now discontinued. I'll put it in my museum if nothing else.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
If you can hold on until around march, we could probably book them in for a refurb
@killerra
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans I'll keep that in mind for sure.
Honestly I love the hifi Sundara I'm a bass fan and have a zen dac v2 to test it out abit better so I would love a pair. Your you tube channel is the ultimate guide for headphones compared to all channels I've watched very descriptive on the headphones and how it coexists with your ears hence my ears one day🙃 And look it's either you be more aware around traffic with your headphones on or you can change your will under my name I could do with a few of your headphones 😜
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
They do have some of the best bass I have experienced
Those look fantastic and would like to try Hifiman headphones.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Good luck in the comp
Just considering first steps into headphones... This would be a sweet surprise :)
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Good luck ;)
very intresting,i have the sundaras open backs and didnt know there was a closed back option,regarding the bass drop off on sundaras i use them with ifi can/dac combo and it gives the bass a great lift but still sounds natural.oh and yes that is a very nice jacket.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thank you ;)
I'd love to have those in my collection! Here is a funny story for you, I got into this audio hobby a while ago, I'm 23 now but I want to say I started at about 13 years old with very cheap headphones, and IEM, anyways, I decided to finally get a nice pair of headphones, so I decided to go for the HD25-ii-1, and after months of saving I finally got them, I was of course blown away but my parents where extremely doubtful and non approving of me spending months of savings on a pair of headphones, and after I tried to convince them my dad said he wanted to listen what it was all about, but that same day my right speaker stoped working after just a few days of use, of course I felt like crying lol, so I went into KZread and found one of your videos about fixing the lose connection, which saved me from being totally schooled by my parents, he loved the sound at the end, keep up the amazing work!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
The HD25 do give good bang for the buck. Good luck
I would absolutely love the Sundara closed-backs. I found your video as I was researching for my second headphone purchase since I'm getting into the audiophile hobby. The design looks very cool and having a unique headphone like that would make my month, maybe even year (If that's a thing). This was the first video I saw of yours and honestly just clicked for the giveaway but ended up watching the whole thing and really enjoyed it. I am becoming obsessed with headphones so watching your detailed explanations and seeing the graphs is fascinating to me. Anyways, I came just for the giveaway but ended up feeling like I'm gonna be a life long subscriber so thanks for the great content and looking forward to your future videos.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and good luck
I would love to get a pair of closed back sundara's. I love my Arias but I struggle with in-ears sometimes.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean ... Good luck
I got my Sundaras about a month ago, and they've been my favorite ever since(I managed to mix a whole album on these). Although as you pointed out time to time, about the low frequencies... I do miss all the thumping some closed back headphones have to offer, and would really like to try these out(especially with your custom Gold + Mayan calendar design). I would never have the guts to go modding my expensive(yes 350 bucks is pretty expensive to me lol) headphones, but I really do enjoy your videos. Cheers man!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
350 bucks is a lot for me as well.. I could not afford most of the headphones I work on ;) Good luck
@Tripokaridos22
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans If 350 for Headphone is a lot , Imagine 100 Euros for a cable what it is ;)
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
@@Tripokaridos22 Lol, you are right. luckily I get a lot of cables for " long term testing" so I don't have to pay for them
@Tripokaridos22
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans Lucky u :) I know that u are one of the best in moding headphones. I was watching u back to hd25 times with all that pads reviews. I remember buying back to these days years ago a painted hd25 .
Trying to increase my listening quality, I bought the open back Sundara a month ago and I'm blown away by the detail. I'd love the closed backs to complement the bass, have another great reference, and record vocals on my little-more-or-less-homestudio! Haha. Good luck everyone!!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Good luck
I was going to get a pair of the Sundara's as my first pair of hi-fi headphones for my birthday because I love the idea of Planar technology and want to know what "beautiful" sounds like 😂. Then I heard these were coming out and have been waiting for a good measurement of em to know if I'd be better off with these or my first choice. Finding out that they are mobile friendly and have incredible bass extension is amazing since I listen to a lot of house and instrumental music while working or reading. So now I'm leaning way more towards these as an everyday driver to replace my NC 700s, especially if the isolation is good enough to almost get you run over 😂. I don't know what mid forwardness sounds like but most of my music listening doesn't include vocals since the words distract me. But I also feel like these would be a great pair to experiment with EQ-ing, leaving a lot of room for me to explore the hobby. However I'd still love to own the open Sundaras since I was drawn to them for how much they represented the clean neutral sound of hi-fi the reviews I've seen were talking about, and motive me more to explore good amps and DACs as well 😅. Winning these would mean I can still get them for my birthday and have both as you recommended 😅. I'd also get to compare closed Vs open back hi-fi a lot earlier, as I planned to do that if I ever got the DCA Aeon Noir in the future (the folding arms had me sold immediately). If not though, you've still made a great case for these for me so I'll flip my upgrade path in reverse and try a mobile friendly closed back before diving deeper into open back hi-fi maybe with the edition XS, Ananda or just the HE400's as an affordable gateway. Thanks ☺️
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
I think, if I could only have one or the other I would go with the open backs but they both have their charms ... Hopefully I can convince my team to let me get some eddtion XS and Anadas in next month... good luck. J
I bought the Sundaras closed backs few days ago. Yes, their mid range is forward and out of the box they sound a bit shouty, but after I EQ'd them they sounded really good to my ears. Really happy with this purchase 🥳
@CustomCans
11 ай бұрын
We did end up making a physical mod as well kzread.info/dash/bejne/g2Rrma6lh8ycltI.html
@4epa1012
11 ай бұрын
@@CustomCans Nice one! I did order a pair of the pad adapter rings.
@chrisp9724
9 ай бұрын
What EQ settings do u recommend? Thnx
@4epa1012
7 ай бұрын
@@chrisp9724 It realy depends on the source and the users ears... With my old Ifi Zen Can/Zen Dac Signature V2 setup I had to scoop out the mids with -2db from 400 to 4000hz, also boost the bass quite a bit, I am kind of a bass head lol. Now on my Aune S9c Pro DAC/Amp I am only boosting the bass and not touching anything else, on this DAC/Amp the midrange sound really good to my ears. It is interesting that I am EQ'ing more my Edition XS than the Sundara CB headphones though.
Thank you for your all around excellent content. While doing my daily walks I always feel under dressed for the occasion with my my plain old stock headphones and cables. Could really use those blazing Sundaras and that balling cable to level up my outdoors appearance. Pretty sure those would also have the benefit of motivating me to do even longer walks leading to a healthier life style longer life expectancy. That would benefit you as well. Having me around for decades could possibly result in over a hundred video views on KZread.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Lol - yes - the longer I can get my subscribers to live, the better ;)
Hm... They seem interesting. And hopefully sound is the same as the look. I want them :D As current user of open-backs (Philips SHP9500) I'm thinking about switching to closed-backs one day. First of all in terms of monitoring, and then listening.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Good luck in the comp ;)
Hello hello, I remember when I first saw your videos, I loved how you not only talked about the frequency response, build, etc., but you also disassembled headphones to compare the pieces to other headphones. Seeing the inner components added something that felt "objective" in a very subjective hobby, and it felt like such a nice change from a lot of headphone videos I've watched. Also, big fan of how the copper modded HD600's looked and how you responded to people in comments who made it sound like you were committing an audiophile sin by modding HD600's. I would love to obtain your custom Sundara's! What I'd do with the headphones if I got them... pff shoot I dunno, stare at them for a while? But I will definitely compare them to the Shure SRH840A's that I've been daily driving for a few months. Thank you for your advice on ear cleaning for a better headphone listening experience, and please continue to tear apart headphones for people like me who don't have the courage or skillset to do so.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Really glad to hear you have been enjoying the videos and good luck in the comp
Been using Dt 990 Pro´s forever and they just died recently. I´m going to repair them, but the measurements you did in this video def. make me wanna shop around for possible alternatives. I would love these one off´s for when I produce and edit music for my dj´sets. I´m especially curious about the clarity/seperation on these and the low end. A closed pair would really make my wife much happier as i tend to turn up the volume a bit much ;o)
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
We can probably repair and upgrade your 990s so they sound even better if you are in the UK. Good luck in the comp
@Ride_Pigen_Freja
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans Im located in Denmark :/
O.M.G, I've been living for almost 40 years and this is the very first time I see a cable that looks like a piece of silk, really don't know how they will sound. Btw, love the closed back design
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
Now those are some gorgeous Sundara's, but even they with those amazing mods, can't compare to the Beauty of the Jecklin Floats (if you know, you know).
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
I had seen pictures of them in memes but never knew what they were called - I am really tempted to try to pick some up now
Mods seems fun, been interested to start my own modding since i bought a modded dt880 from the used market. but the fear of ruining the headphone is holding me back. I hope to complete a headphone mod of my own one day. Cheers anyway your videos are great.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Yes - it is a bit scary the first time. Even though my team and I have a lot of experience, we still break things some times
I'd love a chance to win that very pretty pair of golden headphones as they could inspire me to paint myself golden to match and embark upon a new career as a living statue, which would be the best way of showing them off. My only fear is that attempting to stay very, very, very still while listening to that bass might be almost impossible.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Lols - I never thought they could be the start of a new career for someone ... Good luck
This was really awesome review, loved it! also excited for giveaway as i have m50x and want to try something high end like sundara. fingers crossed! Also in your next video if possible please compare the bass with any comparable audeze headphone. I laughed so hard when u said dog exploded lol.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have just spent £15000 on stock for the run up to xmas so could not afford any audezes.. But I will see if I can borrow some for a comparison. No promises but I will see what I can rustle up
@harshqweqwe
Жыл бұрын
@@CustomCans appreciate your efforts 👌
I want em mostly because the Sundara was my long time love and I finally got my hands on them, but unfortunately couldn't hold on to them for long because I didn't have a good enough amp. Now I've upgraded and am excited to not only come back to a long lost love, but also to an unique model *French kiss*
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Good luck in the comp ;)
I would love them as I already have 2 headphones. One with a dynamic driver and one electrostat. Having a planar would finish the collection :) Additionally as I live near a busy road I'd love to have something closed back so I could do my listening during day-time too.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Good luck!
I'm currently working in a radio station... it would be fun to go to work and here in the back "Wait!! Where did you find these??" - "Custom Cans of course" I wish I could win them!!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
I did a brief stint on the radio - it is harder then I had thought .... Good luck ;)
I just want the headphones mate, I've been looking for a decent pair of closed backs and since these have decent isolation I wouldn't mind a pair. Doubt I'd take em to school or anything but I'd use em out and about, plus the cable is really nice so 🤷♂️ Cheers!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ... Good luck
Good afternoon Custom Cans Crew. I've got to tell you guys that I absolutely love your content! I stumbled upon your channel about 2 weeks ago and you guys have taught me so much. I feel like I've been an audiophile most my life at least in my appreciation for music and it's so many genres. It wasn't until very recently that I learned about Hi-res music files and how much higher the quality and resolution can truly be when you have the proper gear and hardware. Because of that, I have begun my journey to acquire some quality cans so that I can again explore my musical past and relive all my favorite music in much higher quality. Music is life! I'm all about that bass, about that bass AND treble!!! Thank you guys for the great content.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Really glad you are enjoying the videos and more importantly the music ;)
Those cans would look great beside my DT1770 which was also modded by Custom Cans! 😊
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Ahhh... a collector ;) ... Good luck
I would love the give away Sunderas. I've always owned open-back headphones but I never had a closed-back. The way you described how they are with the speed, accuracy and details sounds exciting! I love gold so the gold finish will be a warm welcome. I'd would like to take them wherever I'd like and listen to them comfortably while I study at cafes isolated from the noises there :)
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Yes they would be great for a but of cafe studding. Good luck in the comp
Didn't expect all the gold design but it's definitely groovy.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
thanks ;)
If you're going to EQ the CB for sparkle and tame the midrange, OB Sundara that is EQed to bring up the bass seems like a better way to go. With that being said, I'd enjoy winning these as I only buy headphones every 5 years. Keeps me off the hype train and lets me enjoy the investment before buying the "latest, greatest". Current phones are Sundara 2020 OB, AKG K712 Pro, and AKG Q701. Rotate them every 2 weeks so nothing gets boring. Favorites are the AKG K712 Pro. However, if I were to win the CB Sundara's, I think they'd be different enough from the others that I would enjoy the change when it was their turn in the rotation.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Yes - the open sudaras with more bass would be better but there are times when closed backed is the way to go. I will have to have a proper play with both and see what I can do
First track through these : 'The ecstacy of gold' by Enrico Morricone The open-back Sundara is one of the headphones I reach for the most, so I'd love to compare. Honestly though if I owned something like that, I'd feel like I should build some kind of shrine to it
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
I will have to have a listen to that on the tomorrow... Good luck ;)
Have never heard a closed back planar before. Would be very curious to hear what that sounds like. Looking forward to seeing what else you do with that unique driver.
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Yes - it should be interesting ;)
Hey! I kinda do what you said at the end of the video haha. I team up with young musicians and we get in touch with (sorry, I don't know the word in English but) the people who work with the mayor of different towns here in my country and we teach youngsters how to make their own instruments, how to make music and finally, have it properly recorded (the least controlable factor is acoustics but everything is truly "Do what you can, you'll get better"). Each step from a PBC to a DAW is briefly covered! Oh, I know this channel for a while now but these last few days I've looped your Beyer vids cause I got a broken DT860 and I'm having too much fun repairing/modding it!
@CustomCans
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like awesome work. Also.. glad the vids have been useful