I love that there are still new things we are learning about this game.

@KutthroatBG

2 жыл бұрын

imagine how incredible this game could have been if bethesda let obsidian take their time

@davidh429

2 жыл бұрын

I never knew of these nightkin either

@davidpaisdealmeida2793

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@VanLupen

2 жыл бұрын

@@KutthroatBG I can’t even imagine. You think it’s even possible that one day they make a remastered version of new Vegas with everything they wish they could have put in without Console limitations?

@truelies9187

2 жыл бұрын

Shows how bad Bethesda are at handling it

I love how they foreshadow Arcade’s big secret.

@benjaminoechsli1941

2 жыл бұрын

Arcade standing there like, "Head voices should _mind their bleepin' business."_

@PLANDerLinde99

2 жыл бұрын

Basically, Saying he's metal man because he was a member of the Enclave?

@atlasguytinyproductions55

2 жыл бұрын

@@PLANDerLinde99 Nightkin were present during Fallout 2 (especially Fallout 1), but the only thing they knew about the Enclave was their armor was similar to the Brotherhood

@PLANDerLinde99

2 жыл бұрын

@@atlasguytinyproductions55 So that's what this nightkin knew? He knew about Gannons armour and so assumed him to be one of the metal men? Enclave/Brotherhood

@sjisjsissk

2 жыл бұрын

@@PLANDerLinde99 the voice in his head knows Gannon most likely.

The "head voices" are likely a passive psychic mutation the nightkin share. While the Master was an unparalleled psyker, it's much easier to send a message into an already connected web, than a few thousand individual mutants. The normal super mutants probably have something similar, though they aren't as intelligent or verbose, so there's less proof. Pretty sure the only ones that talk in the post-Bethesda games are nightkin (with a few exceptions) whereas in 1, 2 and tactics, all mutants could talk a little, at least.

@kolowatttz5321

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent comment bro

@AbsurdlyLudicrous724

2 жыл бұрын

Which does kind of bring into question about the stealth boy tech 'driving them insane', perhaps humans don't live long enough for the long-term effects to show up (In which case, a ghoul would be affected the same way), or perhaps it only affects the night kin because of that passive psychic mutation.

@hohanrodanrodan9624

2 жыл бұрын

“I am strongest super mutant.” “Here human, human… I have a treat for you…” they can talk.

@meatycitadel

2 жыл бұрын

Every Unity super-mutant can form coherent sentences. I'm pretty sure you can make docile super mutants to speak in New Vegas.

@kitosjek9541

2 жыл бұрын

Most unity mutants speak normally, only harry was below average intelligence.

Typically, I finish the Crazy, Crazy, Crazy quest late into the game, so the nightkin in this cave are usually long dead by the time I do it. For that reason, I've never actually seen them passive in any of my games.

@half-death8095

2 жыл бұрын

Why exactly are they dead?

@derekmensch3601

2 жыл бұрын

@@half-death8095 he kills them

@half-death8095

2 жыл бұрын

@@derekmensch3601 they calm down after finishing the quest?

@derekmensch3601

2 жыл бұрын

@@half-death8095 depending on how you finish it, yes.

@radioactivehalfrhyme

2 жыл бұрын

If you manage to sneak up to Neil, he’ll divert them, then you can fix Rhonda unimpeded. It’s somewhat challenging, but very gratifying if you like to resolve quests peacefully.

The Knightkin are actually pretty cool, I wish Bethesda or Obsidian would do more with them in a Future fallout game

@Might_T

2 жыл бұрын

You should be able to become one

@fVcker1

2 жыл бұрын

Obsidian should do more. Bethesda would ruin it somehow

@Might_T

2 жыл бұрын

@@fVcker1 idk, they handle different character races pretty well in Skyrim / Oblivion

@ANukeWithLegs

2 жыл бұрын

its Nightkin as in Night cause they are purple and stealthy

@Gilbals

2 жыл бұрын

The NIghtkin are some of the last 1st Gen mutants on the west coast. There's not many left to work with, and most would only go more insane with time, even with the cure.

Most people: makes a 15 page essay on what their favorite companion is and why they're the best Me: 1:54

@AScottish-AustralianM-84

2 жыл бұрын

Good enough reason to run ED-E.

@orangeismyfavoritecolor

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh ED-E + Boone is a really good combo because of their perks

@PaigeBook

2 жыл бұрын

@カリザKariza what!!!

@maoeou

Жыл бұрын

Bwuhahwah funny robot looks like sputnik-1

This one nightkin has more lines than Fallout 4.

Head Voices say Ceasar dosent know a damn thing about Hegelian dialectics. gah THE HELL IS DIALECTICS DAMN YOU HEAD VOICES

@ericgriffin9892

28 күн бұрын

Hegelian dialectics you know what I learned something new today thank you (even if the comment is 2 years old)

I like the comments on John Cassidy implying the “voices” are the same as the “spirits” in that game meaning they’re real and actually know the things they say and the only barrier is the individual’s ability to comprehend what these entities are saying. Maybe it’s an elder scrolls moment and they’re hearing echoes of players or developers talking about the actual game state not just in universe wastelander banter or an animal instinct type vocality as they seem to suggest which would explain the confusion by the Nightkin. I also like the distinction of “metal men” for power armor factions from the West Coast mutants and “bucket heads” from East Coast Mutants because East Coast mutants are more familiar with the T-45/T-60 platform which has a helmet that looks most like a bucket because that’s that’s what the East Coast BoS have used most while the West Coast BoS and Enclave just look shiny and sleek and the Mutants actually faced them so surviving Nightkin would have an axe to grind

@LewisB3217

2 жыл бұрын

They are real, there’s a literal telepath kid at Outpost 188, it’s just someone must be telling the night kin

@bipyf7354

2 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of the Sulik (F2 companion)

@indo4954

2 жыл бұрын

dude youre sperging out, chill

@Otterdisappointment

2 жыл бұрын

@@bipyf7354 That’s what interested me because he’s the only character from Fallout 2 that talks to apparently non-existent entities and would’ve met Cass’ dad

It’s actually insane I’m finding out about such a cool detail about this game after so long, definitely my top 3 game

1:54 my whole motivation for having ED-E as a companion throughout the game

What's funny about the Meyers line after 3:15 is that in my early game a super mutant master followed me all the way to Primm and murdered Meyers. His body is sitting outside near the bridge close to the NCR troopers rotting in the sun

I spent too long listing the nicknames in this video, and their connections “Shiny Screens” - Securitrons “Silver Chair” / “Chair” - Benny “Chip” - The Courier “Broken Man” / “Broken One” - Mr. House Companion ones are obvious, but I’ll list them here too. “Smelly Ghoul” - Raul “Smart Man” - Arcade “Quiet Man” - Boone “Flower Girl” - Cass “Funny Robot” - ED-E “Doggy with squishy brain” - Rex “Someone like us” - Lily “Book Girl” - Veronica BoS - “Metal Men” NCR with power armor - “New Metal Men” The Enclave - “Metal Men” The Great Khans - “Horns” The NCR - “Bear” / “Bears” The Legion - “Bull” / “Bulls” / “Mars” The Kings - “Crowned Heads” The Monorail - “Snake” President Kimball - “Bear Heads” Caesar - “Bull” / “Mars”

So... "Head voices" met John Cassidy, Cass' father, that means it could possibly be Hakunin or Melchior or both. Or, way less interesting, some other psychic he met when travelled to Texas or before he met the Chosen One... Or all of them. I like to imagine multiple voices starting recognizing Cass and the other voices pilled in. "Yo, I met her father." "Real piece of shit with ghouls and tribals." "Yeah, but good with guns, though." "Terrible bartender. 1.5/5."

@uberd3323

2 жыл бұрын

Its Sulik’s grandfather talking to the nightkin

@sjisjsissk

2 жыл бұрын

He also met Gannons father

This Nightkin really knows their stuff. "Snake destroyed,Rats scurry while they can." = Snake=Source of subjective evil + Rats scurrying=Unestablished gamblers hiding in NCR can't make it to The Strip. And "Head voices see clouds in the sky, Where is sun?" =Head voices see different factions in the Mojave, Where is established certainty?"

You can tell the VA had fun with these lines.

@crimsondynamo615

Ай бұрын

Would you believe me if I told you the nightkin are voiced by Mario from hotel mario

Funny robot make blinky sound

4:11 Here the Nightkin directly compares the Enclave and NCR as almost equals... how interesting

@aleksandarvil5718

3 ай бұрын

Elder Arthur Maxon ( *_*Fallout 4*_* ): 😅😅😅

The devs really put in details that players that almost will surely miss. I installed the mod More Mojave in my game, and it adds extra locations in the map. One of those places is a train tunnel full of super mutants, and at the bottom was the same kind of Nightkin that comments on Mojave events! The mutants in Black Rock Cave was long killed by me by the time I saw this video, but when I heard the Nightkin in the new location commenting on Cass's father, I decided to spare them.

There's still things to find out about New Vegas even after all this time. This is wild. I'm beginning to think that the people at Obsidian at the time loved the game they were making, because they filled it with such details. (Oh, and of course, "Two Bears High-Fiving".)

"Blinky sounds"

This. Was. Completely. New.

Forever glad that creators like you still make FNV content. Its both nostalgic, and a fresh of breath air!

dude that was a cool reference to Cassidy's Dad. these is one cool thing

@aleksandarvil5718

3 ай бұрын

One of Chosen One’s companions in **Fallout 2** !!!

This is why so many of us still see this as the best game ever made.

Just curious, how do you make them friendly? You said they can anticipate the player characters actions so do you just go in there with your weapons holstered?

@BrUh-kv5bz

2 жыл бұрын

Since it’s right under Black Mountain logic would say finish the related peacefully and they might become friendly? Idk have to test it lol

@Szashabella

2 жыл бұрын

Yup just fix Rhonda and wait one in game hour twice and if you havent masicured jacobstown they will be friendly usually (just did it after watching the vid)

@k4hn511

2 жыл бұрын

For some reason they are bugged and sometimes stay hostile regardless, you can use setally 0001b2a4 0013f893 1 1 in the console to make them peacefull

@Szashabella

2 жыл бұрын

im on console and you can quit the game completely and come back to reset it and if that still doesent work you can try to agro then unagro them but this also is only affective under certain conditions (oops sorry didnt mean to @ you its a new phone)

@White_Tiger93

2 жыл бұрын

@@k4hn511 if you're on PC be sure to use bug fix mod like Yukichigai Unofficial Patch mod, not the old one from 2010 mod..

Man... one of the few things I still look back is when I sold my Ps3 with several of other games, so far I still reminisce over this game. Such a masterpiece fr

Aww sweet! A schitzo thread!

Why all of a sudden these New Vegas videos are popping up in my recommended? I'm an absolute sucker for hidden details. 10 playthroughs over, like, 5 years, and this excites me. Makes me want to load up a new save. One small detail I'd like to share is that Antony The Hound-Master at The Fort is the only Legionary (as far as I've seen, excluding Caesar himself) that isn't seemingly misogynistic if you decide to play as a female aligned with Caesar's Legion for shits and giggles (Apart from the dude who ferries you across the river, I'm surprised there isn't expanded dialogue from Legionaries in regards to a woman working for Caesar, wearing their armor, helping them achieve victory and even becoming Idolized. "Ave, amicus" is probably the kindest thing they've told my character. This is probably because Caesar's Legion is unfinished. But even with their faction's storyline being half-done.... It's really awesome. ). Antony also seems to be the only Legionary that has emotion, as talking to him about his life in the Hangdog tribe makes him sad to remember how the Legion managed to break them. He holds bitterness against the Legion because of it. Him and Centurion Silus share similarities in regards to what they truly think of the Legion. I love Antony because he loves Lupa, and an animal lover is okay in my books. He's even bitter that her pups are used as mongrels.

This game is 12 years old and I still learn more about it everyday.

(3:17) I think I get it.... The symbolism of this, is that Meyers as a sherrif is a kinda Rogue individual. In the ending of FLNV, it mentions that him as a sherrif from time to time murk its own citzens if they disagree with him. He also prev mentioned he got arrested for being a rogue sherrif. *My Theory:* There was cut content for the game to STILL be played after u reached the ending, now seeing the world as u changed it. In the cut post-ending, this Sherrif was supposed to not last. If you ally with the Legion he's already dead by the End-Narration, BUT, he was maybe supposed to die either way?: - NCR Ending: He get arrested again. - Anarchist Ending: His own people get fed up and schemes against him. - MR. House Ending: He refuses to pay taxes or get fed up with the Securitrons, but is easily overpowered.

Very awesome, thanks for sharing this stuff with us, I would have never known

obsidian did so much in 18 months it’s mind blowing

I've played through this game several times and I still learn new things through videos like this.

That knightkin knew cass’s dad? Neat

The nightclub who attacks the cattle at novac

They knew flower girls father... Markus and Cassidy were your companions in Fallout 2

I was a meandering courier...so I killed them all before I got the chance. Black Mountain, for whatever reason, is one of the last things I do in-game.

The moment when your speech skill confuses even a the psycher.

Wow! Something I actually didn't know about NV! Thanks bud you got another sub!

There is a shared bug on ALL versions of NV (Pc,PS3,Xbox360) they will stay hostile no matter what, you can fix this using the command setally 0001b2a4 0013f893 1 1 in the console to make them peacefull

@Scourgeoftengri

2 жыл бұрын

thanks

I love their reaction to Ed-E, sums up everyone who loves ED-E

they give me major malkavian vibes- they're insane but they also have supernatural insight.

Why would they add such a neat little detail and even voice all the dialogue for some NPCs in a cave that players usually either don't even find or find but have the mutants hostile so they kill them?

I think the Novac Nightkin says this too when standing behind the rock.

I'm pretty sure there is also a cut dialogue to this nightkin that are suppose to be there when you finish the 2nd battle of hoover dam with continuing the post- end game content like it was suppose to be where you can continue playing the game after the main quest finish. Surely this Nightkin will have more stuff to say since how much cut content that was cut from the final game..

Insightful and psychic powers like: shiny robot like blinky sounds

Always something new with this game… been playing since release and there’s still shit I’ve never even seen or heard about in all that fucking time.

I didn't know about these nightkin. I wonder if they say anything about primm slim if he's the sheriff of primm.

I have over a thousand hours in the game and never knew this existed. Thats amazing.

how they were able to add ALL these small things to the game in such a small period of time is mind blowing

these nightkins just might be my most favorite characters in new vegas

This is amazing I never knew of this

Wow. Still learning new things

New vegas never cease to amuse me with new stuff.

Damn cool find.

Didn't even know there was a cave there

Boy anytime i think i have learned everything about this game this pop's up

Could the head voice be the chosen one? I can't think of anyone who met Cass' father and also knows so much about the Enclave.

This is a sick video keep it up

What texture mods do you use man? Your game looks good

This single obscure NPC has more reactivity to the player's actions than the entirety of Fallout 4

how in tf have I not even heard a whisper about this? I've played this game in and out since launch and I still learn new things about it like I've never played

"You like Super Mario Sunshine, don't you?"

This was wonderful.

Never found the passage to black cave, the mountain the NCR took over and got slaughtered soonly after was enough of a hell to navigate through

What if the voice, the nightkins are hearing is voice of the master from fallout 1 (Spelling)

The super mutants and Nightkin are so intriguing in this game. Even though they aren’t prominent, the writers do a great job of depicting their emotional complexity and alien-ness without dehumanizing them. I go out of my way not to kill any in Black Mountain and Repcon, although it’s difficult. I wish there were a pacifist way to deal with the Nightkin outside Novac. I guess you could argue you’re easing his suffering.

Cass = Flower Girl Veronica = Book Girl So funny and wholesome🤗

1:51 Reference to John Cassidy 👴🏼 [ Rose of Sharon’s/Cass’ father ] , one of Chosen One’s companions in *_Fallout 2_*

WOW so much dialog.

Was this content cut from the game? I've been to that cave and the nightkin were always hostile for me

@unoriginalperson72

2 жыл бұрын

You have to make them friendly somehow

@yankeefanbryson19

2 жыл бұрын

I think you have to do the quest "Crazy, Crazy, Crazy" by fixing Rhonda to make Tabitha friendly to you first

@k4hn511

2 жыл бұрын

For some reason they are bugged and sometimes stay hostile regardless, you can use setally 0001b2a4 0013f893 1 1 in the console to make them peacefull

@seanalbro3689

Жыл бұрын

​@@k4hn511anything that can be done for console-players?

Holy shite I can't believe I have never heard of this, nice find!

"funny robot make blinky sound"

You take a sip from your vault 13 canteen

@livingbehind661

3 ай бұрын

trusty...*

Даже из одной комнаты можно познать весь мир. (с) Дао Дэ Цзин

Metal men for arcade being enclave is fucking great damn I love this game

I never even knew these guys existed

How do you make them friendly? Just by completing the Black Mountain Radio quest? I’ve always visited the cave before doing the quest so never knew

It's like if the forecaster was exposed to FEV

Black Rock Cave? I swear that caves riddled with DeathClaws.

@alisavdagic8116

2 жыл бұрын

That would be a Death Wind Cavern, not Black Rock Cave.

How do you make them not hostile?

@rodrikofharlaw6848

2 жыл бұрын

My same thought Ive played a lot of this game and just always wiped the cave without thought.

@RayneBlood

2 жыл бұрын

The nightkin inside may be friendly to the Courier if the quest Crazy, Crazy, Crazy is completed by repairing Rhonda.

@rodrikofharlaw6848

2 жыл бұрын

@@RayneBlood Well that explains it since I never bothered with that quest.

@Johndoe-ky4nu

2 жыл бұрын

@@RayneBlood Thanks!

@k4hn511

2 жыл бұрын

Even though they are supposed to be friendly after the quest is finished how they describe it above, they are bugged and more often than not will stay hostile, in PC you can use the command setally 0001b2a4 0013f893 1 1 to fix it

What a Masterpiece

I’m flabbergasted

I’ve never even heard anyone mention this

Now I'm really curious who these headvoices are

What is this texture mod that everybody on KZread uses? It looks incredible.

Wait when do NCR troopers with Power Amor appear? I don't think I ever saw those.

funny robot make blinky sounds

“funny robot go brrr”

HUh. Knew about the place but didn't notice this stuff

This is super cool!

Rly cool video didn’t know that !

Wow I didn’t know they existed

Reminds me of yoda with how the nightkin speak.

I never knew about this woah

my spirit animal

"funny robot make b l i n k y sounds"

Not surprised I never heard them. Either I finish Crazy Crazy Crazy WAY late in the game when cave is cleaned already or blitz through it early by murdering Tabitha (no Science to pass check).

Makes ya wonder if “head voices” are actually an external force. Since the nightkin ended up getting annoyed with it when describing the “new metal men”

@walesjedi9217

2 жыл бұрын

considering that they show obvious psychic abilities, it's safe to say they're some sort of external force. whether they're spirits or some general psychic field is impossible to say, though

@JohnSmith-fq3rg

2 жыл бұрын

@@walesjedi9217 It's other nightkin most likely, they are also psychic and due to their extensive nightboy use, probably see and hear everything in the mojave to some extent, even if they are only displaying simple takeaways from it.

@walesjedi9217

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-fq3rg that's a good theory, at least in some part. the only problem with it is them knowing about what happened in the Bunker despite it being very likely no nightkin were present (it works if Lily is there but you can't guarantee that)

@JohnSmith-fq3rg

2 жыл бұрын

@@walesjedi9217 They have stealth boy's and are intelligent and physically capable, one sneaking in behind you isn't that implausible. For all you know random non immediantly hostile nightkin could be stalking you at all times, or merely was in the right place at the right time and followed you in on impulse.

@walesjedi9217

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-fq3rg except we know that isn't true because it isn't present in the game or even slightly hinted at, psychic abilities seem far more likely as they are definitively a canon effect of the FEV