Hidden Changes Making 2025 Indian Scout Better!
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💭 The new 2025 Indian Scout comes with a bunch of new features including a new engine called the SpeedPlus 1250. More power, more tech with a few hidden changes that makes this a step forward from previous gen Scout.
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The only thing you got wrong was the air intake. It's not the side cover that looks like an intake, that's a fake intake. It's still above the radiator, it's visible at mark 5:20
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Ah, you're right. Now I want to pull it off and expose it.
@onlyinaxj1421
3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso great videos, keep em coming.
You have very good narration skills Brandon, and I can see why Indian invites you to test rides their bikes. You have now become one of my favorite influencers to watch on KZread.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
I appreciate that! Always working on improving each time I get a chance to do these.
@ANONYMOUSBIKERUSA
3 ай бұрын
dude outstanding details on the bikes and greet explanations! that white 101 is wooooooo weeeeeee thanks for spending my money 😂
Good video. The 40,000 mile valve maintenance interval amazes me. Back in the day you'd need a rebuild around 40,000.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Engineering and testing has come a long way.
As someone who also does his own maintenance, thank you for encouraging me to upgrade to 2025. This generation might be my forever bike.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
That's awesome. It's a great platform and got me to Indian. A lot more will be pleased.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
2 ай бұрын
Indian ties these things together well
Indian did a great job on the Scout. I'm an HD guy (who also likes Indian), and I would buy the new Scout over the new Nightster. And probably over the the Sportster S too. I'm partial to HD on the bigger bikes, but Indian is winning the midsize segment in my opinion.
I think they should have used the scout classic fenders for the super scout. Would give better protection in rain for touring
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
That or turn the scout classic into a Super. Just bolt the windshield and bags on. Same subframe.
@jakewillits4678
Ай бұрын
I think they did it for price because the bobbers cost less so they give it the bob and that buys budget because their accessories arent cheap. I dont like the bobbed fender I like the classic fender too. I like caste wheels
i rode the 101 yesterday in chattanooga, and holy shit. its so much better than the current scout lineup. theyve really made the right move with the new scouts!
@speaktruth247
3 ай бұрын
How tall are you?
@Slayer_syndicate
3 ай бұрын
@@speaktruth247 I'm 5'9". My 6'1" buddy also rode it and loved it! He's considering dropping his 21 scout for it.
@speaktruth247
3 ай бұрын
@Slayer_syndicate that's good to hear, because I'm also 6'1 and was wondering about comfort.
@Slayer_syndicate
3 ай бұрын
@@speaktruth247 he's a newer rider, but he said he thinks he could add floorboards and be good. It honestly had me feeling a little stretched out but it was mean and I think I'd ride it anyways. Plus they've got different size risers now for the handlebars to help.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
I rode with a few 6'+ folks and they also mentioned how riding the Sport/101 was tolerable. Floorboards and 10" risers made the difference. Lot of combinations to make it more comfortable. 6" risers is my sweet spot.
Well done. Very informative and great use of the camera to show everything you're explaining.
great job i think you covered everything I wanted to know
On the brakes, they're technically from FTR/Sport Chief (which are also sort of from Challenger). Yeah, Brembo.
Brandon, you've always done good Indian Motorcycle videos. I've been waiting on Indian to upgrade the scout. I am very thankful to you for your informative videos on the upgraded Scouts.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Sure thing, Frank! So much more to cover haha.
I'm hoping I'll be getting the 101 as my forever bike once I get back into riding. Fixed everything I wanted with that edition.
Great! - Thanks for the video!
Great review and showing all the features. I’m really confused now as I nearly got sold on a Scout Bobber 1133 last month, then saw the newer 1250 coming out but the Limited + Tech plus the add ons I want now make the Chief Bobber in the same price range. Decisions, decisions, I’m one day HD, then Triumph, then Indian and now back to Indian…… look forward to the event at my local dealer test riding a few next month. 👍🍻
Love those Indian motorcycles❣️ They’re just keep getting better and better👍
Very informative thank for posting, when do you get to review them on the road?
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Already have. Can't release road stuff until the 17th.
Well done Brandon
Very informative, best on YT for Indian.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Appreciate that.
Really good video of the 101, I’m actually considering buying one myself. I was looking at this in white or a Harley Davidson breakout.
@BrandonBicasso
Ай бұрын
Glad you got value from it. Of course, test ride both if you can!
Very good and informative video. We need more videos like this. I heard that Indian added an assist and slipper clucth. Is trhis true?
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Yep, there's a slipper there.
I like how your time wrenching AND riding has helped your reviews mature. And having attended a few releases now has helped you not be so starstruck. There's a lot of good experienced point of view here, which very much ups the quality. You pretty much covered all the stuff we grizzled riders wish would be covered.
@BrandonBicasso
Ай бұрын
When I get to these releases, I'm all work soon as I get there. I could've done a better job so I've learned from some mistakes on this one as well.
Thanks for this series on the new Scout. Can't wait to get a close look when they land in England.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Definitely get a good look when you can!
@user-ck2ed1eg1m
3 ай бұрын
Im due to get first one in UK, june/july :)
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
@@user-ck2ed1eg1m ooo that’s gonna be exciting.
Dang sexy bike. Great video (as usual) 👍
Great video one question how is the clutch pull on the 101? Is it about the same as a Harley clutch pull on my Harley at the end of the day my hands hurting from pulling the clutch in
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Lighter than most clutches. Has clutch assist with a slipper.
Brandon on it! As usual. Still gonna get that Challenger tho! 😆🤘
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Different type of ride but a good choice.
Damn good review! Answering the questions we really want to know. That bike looks amazing. Indian going to have a hit on their hands with this. How is the heat on the right thigh? That’s the one thing on the Scout that I really didn’t like.
I dig the white background on black text speedometer
What brand is the suspension system for the 101? Nice video 👍
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
No idea. It was asked, but Indian doesn't release that info anymore.
Great video. Do you know does new Scout 101 have cornering ABS?
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
It does not. Standard ABS across the range. Only traction control on Limited and Limited+Tech trim.
@bojan2501
3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso Thanks for the answer, and strange that they skipped on this, but event without cornering ABS it still looks attractive.
I could consider selling my Octane and getting a 101 but, that Octane is a very sweet looking bike!
Do you think that I am going to cook on this when it hits 100F in Arizona? I do ok on my BMW 1200GS, I am looking to add a second bike to ride. I am looking at the new BMW R12 cruiser in comparison to this...
@BrandonBicasso
2 ай бұрын
You'll cook on most tbh. I was fine on this, personally. Heat was an afterthought compared to previous gen Scout.
Great video, Brandon. I wanna see the Fuel economy changes for myself. If it is getting 60mpg or better, that is huge.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
I had some 50-60mpg moments while cruising for sure. I think the range will surprise some people. Will need more time with it to see for myself.
@CDLNEPA
3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso with gas prices being as bad as they are, this would be a great thing. Especially running high octane
Why is no one talking about the largness look of the bike. It's more bulbous and less slim and clean looking. Why the hell did they change the way the tank looked?? This isn't a chief, its a bobber. Don't give us a chief tank and rear fender. WHY?
@TheAnnoyingBoss
2 ай бұрын
I think no one was concerned except you bro
@AndiMon64
Ай бұрын
nah man i feel you. i like the old look of the scout bobber way more.
@allanp123
Ай бұрын
Indiana makes a chief bobber
Definitely glad they kept the analog versions with the addition of the fuel gauge. That was really all I thought the old scout needed. Happy to not be forced into the techy models with the even bigger price increase.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Yep, it's all an option.
How's the clutch pull feeling? It has a slipper clutch now I believe I read. So I wondered how that affected the pull.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Very light pull. Almost too light tbh. Aimed at beginners tho.
@RobDaKid87
3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso Oh wow ok. I recently rode a 24' and thought the clutch felt pretty good. The difference will be interesting to see.
Do the side bags come off quickly? Please let me know
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Yes. Quick release. Same as windshield.
As someone who just bought a 2017 scout like a month ago. I'm going to go ride a 101 and it might be what i end up getting (depending on insurance )
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Get that wallet warmed up.
Very interesting 😀
Tis a sweet machine.
Brandon, would you know if the new mid controls are farther back than the current Scout?
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
I’m not sure. Did not have any mid controls available to try. Missed opportunity.
Good Job
Am buying the 101 next year
I was just thinking if the covers can now come off easily how long til custom head covers are available. Could you imagine some glass head covers with black lights inside or some custom metal or even carbon fiber. The coolant hoses definitely need to be swapped for a custom set glass tube's would be sick.
@BrandonBicasso
Ай бұрын
That would be SUPER SICK. I’ve wanted carbon fiber covers for my ThunderStroke. Oil temps should be fine for the resin used to hold it all together. Glass radiator tubes would be awesome too.
Curious if we would be able to integrate the ride command and cruise control on to the older model scouts.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Not without significant work. An engineer said with some wiring work, the screen can be added. Cruise control is a tough one. ECM doesn’t know what cruise control is so would require some work there. Also, you’d have to mess with the hand control wiring to get the left side working. Otherwise, you’d have a touch screen only which is probably fine for most.
@yumib7962
3 ай бұрын
Would that include fuel gauge??
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
@@yumib7962 negative. Different fuel float tech on the pump.
@yumib7962
3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso I saw Hemisphere performance made an aftermarket fuel gauge. Do you know anything about if it would be worth it? For now Iv been doing trip meters logs but I ran out of fuel once bc my light came on and then 5 miles later I ran out so that light basically is unreliable to me.
Quick question, so you can put 240 but no accessories even though max would be 180 to use accessories.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Essentially. The 240 can't work with the subframe or the fender. It's too wide. Same as previous gen Scout. You want the accessories on the rear, can't go bigger than 180.
Everything but the exhaust is beautiful. I can deal with that any day. Awsome bike.
Should have went with octane wheel specs, way better tire options available. Also the ride modes, cruise control, tcs and fuel gauge should have been on the 18+ models or at least 20+ models. My 20 Triumph had all that w/ dual brembos.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Good ole business games.
Brandon how did you like riding to Santa Cuz ? I saw 👀 you guys ride by. 🤘⚡️🤘✨✨
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Lot of fun. Beautiful area.
@NorCal-refrigeration
3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso good riding out here. 🤘⚡️🤘✨✨
Can the heat shields off so you can wrap them?
@BrandonBicasso
Ай бұрын
Likely, yes. Indian hasn’t released a bike that doesn’t allow that
What's the mpg for the new scout
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Eh.. at least 40. I had some moments of getting 50-60 while cruising in 6th gear. I think 140 is a good range to shoot for. I didn’t get a chance to test that extra 20ish mile range. I’m sure 180 miles is possible IF you ride the speed limit and in rain mode to empty. But riding sport mode with a fist full.. maybe 20mpg. That doesn’t include weight and hill terrain which eats mileage.
Well I’d say it’s a perfectly average sized oil plug. Gets the job done just fine….some might even say it’s the biggest they’ve seen.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
I struggled unreasonably to rethread that thing.
@jakewillits4678
Ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicassois the headlight lense made of plastic
What about the stator plug leak?
@BrandonBicasso
Ай бұрын
I’d like to think that’s been solved since it’s a new engine 😂
Review of a nara bronze metallic smoke in a sport scout please 🤝🤝🤝
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Didn’t have access to one.
Part of me wants to trade in my classic scout... the other part of me realizes that I have proper cruise control installed on it via aftermarket, and I REALLY don't want to swap all that out again.
@usmcvet0313
3 ай бұрын
Well the new ones come with it from the factory in 2 out of the 3 trims on all models so, you shouldn't need to.
I have a Harley Davidson, Lowrider, ST and love it. But man this is a nice bike.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
That’s awesome. I had a LowRider S as well. Great platform.
when comparing the new 1250 scout vs 1133 scout - do you think the new one is better suited for taller riders (6.1 and 200 pounds), the 1133 made it feel somehow strange.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Yes, other 6’+ riders I rode with were comfortable on the bike. They enjoyed the 10” riser set up most.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
2 ай бұрын
How long is it from your finger tip to your elbow brother i wonder how much of a role that plays 😂 what if you got short arms bit this oddly long torso
Are the seats more comfortable than they are in the old scouts ?
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Yes
Gonna have to find out if the fuel pump and gauge is interchangeable with the old scout and octane to see if we can finally get a fuel gauge
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Could work. Barrier is the CAN BUS and whether the previous Gen Scout's ECM will accept that data. Previous Scout has a pin on the speedo for the fuel light, but Chief reads it through CAN so I assume the new Scouts will too. Someone should try it tho!
@SantiSpeed1
3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso I believe the scout and octane gauge already have a spot on the cluster for the readout as well, just like on the new scout analog gauge. Will be looking into this soon
Are the batteries still the same or did they go with something better?
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
With the new electronics added, battery is bigger. I don't recall how much bigger tho. AGM and not lithium also.
@preacherman6212
3 ай бұрын
Thanks bro, always enjoy your videos.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
2 ай бұрын
Where i live them motorcyvle batteries shit the bed about every 2 years even if i always park in tbe garage because its so damn cold at night and hot in the day
If I don't get the Buell, 101 will be my next bike!
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
I probably won't get a chance to touch a Super Cruiser in this detail but if I do, it will get the same treatment as Scout.
I just ordered the 101 lol.
Lots of custom stuff can be done on that bike for sure.
I wanna know how hard be to bolt long fender on scout 101. That’s only thing I’m not likening on 101
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
From a ‘25 classic? Probably only a few minutes. They all use the same sub frame. May even be able to make a pre ‘25 work.
@rbatman9704
3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso yeah I like the brakes and suspension on 101 but I want that on classic scout. And the extra hp. You could do it as it seems. Just ends up costing way more. So putting fender on 101 may be much more cost effective. But I’ll have to sit on both and see.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, that makes sense. The front fender would be the challenge. Mounts differently on the forks.
I wish there's a way that we can put the ride command on a 2023 scout model but they don't want to tell so you can buy a new bike for that specific stuff 😢
The 101 looks like fun.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
They all are tbh. 101 just a weebit more.
I guess more room for different style saddle bags because of the change of mufflers
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Yep. Another way to look at it.
You are starting to look at bikes through a mechanics eyes
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
I have so many questions haha. Cool that the engineers were open to talk about a lot of it.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
2 ай бұрын
Glass lense headlight bro my 2008 kawasaki had it
Does the new engine retain the dual sump plugs? Is it possible to "easily" check the coolant level? Still using the 15w 60 oil grade? Blah blah..
@TheAnnoyingBoss
2 ай бұрын
Woah duel sump plugs? At least take me out for dinner first you filthy animal
Enjoyed the Scout series. Now let’s get these subscriber numbers up. Like, comment, and subscribe.
Does it have twin throttle bodies?
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Single like previous Scout and the rest of the Indian lineup
@stephensexton5572
3 ай бұрын
I've heard maybe 63mm
I wonder if the new FTR’s will get a bump to 1250?
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
That I don’t know but good question.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
2 ай бұрын
The ftrs are crazy
I have an inkling feeling when I downsize from my HD bagger that this might be on the short list to test ride/bring home. Harley could never fit this many top tier components on at this price.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
I definitely say give it a go. Even if not for you, ride it just cause.
Has anybody mentioned pv3 tune ability yet?
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
I haven't kept up with it or know if the ECMS have been unlocked either. Hopefully someone else will chime in.
is this also TPMS capable
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Yes, option is in RideCommand. No TPMS sensors on the wheels from factory.
I really like the jump post...all bikes should have that. But I dislike the key-fob concept on all bikes. That's just a needless idea.
Stage 3, 240 back end 180 front end true spoke full custom Ohlins suspension Tank Machine upgrades to name a few…
I don’t like the color red but that little bit of red on that white with the black was sexy
@TheAnnoyingBoss
2 ай бұрын
I like the classic limited with tech trim where its red with chrome. I want to look like i came out of peak 1960s like i just got elected president and im on my way in an open top chromed out automobile about to get my brains blown out by some disgruntled communists mobsters and potentially others if that suits your fancy. You know real iconic looking, you say damn it looks like the economy is booming from a post ww2 peace era or something.
non-locking saddle bags are a big deal breaker...
Coolies.
Hate the fenders. Love the bike.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Fair! Swap em out for the classic. Do have to paint tho..
Here goes Brandon impatiently waiting for one of these to hit the copart auction lot 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Somebody gone cook a corner too hot and low side one or wheelie it into a tree. 😂
@CactusJack252
3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso as long as the rider is ok. Bikes are rebuild able with enough 💰
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
always!
I like to see chopper weight tire indian chief
Dudes, that engine is good-looking!!
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
I think so too. So many powder coating ideas 😂
@TheAnnoyingBoss
2 ай бұрын
The last one looked really good too I wish they sold that thing in a crate.
I like my 2019 bobber more than the new ones
Cant help himself from dismantling it 🤣🤣🤣
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
I want to so bad : (
@artistonamotorbike
3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso i love this going around talking about all the design details. Would love to see you interview the designers and engineers
Call it dumb, but Im keeping my 23 Scout Rogue and putting a 101 right next to it. 😂
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
You’re talking to a dude that bought the same bike 4 times in a year 😂🤟🏾! Do it!
@yumib7962
3 ай бұрын
Yo I’m in the same exact boat as you 23 rogue will be crazy modded though!!
@erickagrinsonis2786
3 ай бұрын
Must be a 23 rogue thing lol. I ordered a 101 and keeping the rogue as well.
Good content but holy shit what is that high pitched noise?! I can’t finish watching the vid
@BrandonBicasso
24 күн бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean? Was it the outside a/c noise?
@upsidebriandown
22 күн бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso sounds like it could be, just one of those sounds that once I hear it I can’t not hear it. edit: it’s the ac for sure. Like I said good stuff, keep it coming
I hate that you have to remove the gas tank to get to the air cleaner.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
It’s not too bad but it’s partially a chore.
♠️INDIAN fighting Harley by focusing on a more reliable, serviceable bike, that’s also water cooled and looks fresh! Now all they need is VICTORY custom styled bikes!
@howiethehowitzer7398
2 ай бұрын
Or just Indian. Unless it's a separate and independent company I don't care to see another brand.
Would you get you one?
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
I would. Sport Scout. I’d want to paint parts and powder coat the frame. Doing that to the 101’s paint wouldn’t sit right with me.
@mforganics4985
3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso if someone wanted to get into indian would you recommend the scout or the chief bobber for an intermediate rider?
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
I think it depends on the rider's size/comfort on each one. They both are fast enough to get hurt. So, I would ask the person to ride both and pick the one they're most comfortable on. Then, if money isn't a problem, pick the one that has the character they like. Liquid/Air have different attitudes. Top end or Torque? I like my Chief for the torque and engine character. Plus, I've done a lot of work on it. But either bike is suited for various experience levels with power modes now.
The 20 more miles, is nothing... 4.5 or 5 gal please.
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Lol then buy a Chief and not a mid sized cruiser.
@RadioRahim01
2 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso can't really say that B, what about the Low Rider, and Fat Boy the Softail is the "Mid sized" line up of HD and has a 5 gallon tank... I like the chief, and wish I would have gotten an Indian instead of the HD, but the range is what stopped me from purchasing a scout bobber back when they 1st came out.
@BrandonBicasso
2 ай бұрын
@@RadioRahim01 We can agree to disagree. Chief/Fatboy/Low Rider are more beyond mid sized with their engine displacement and weight over 650 pounds. Softail Standard has a 3.5 gallon tank and starts at $15k. Chief has a 4 gallon tank and starts at $15k. Low Rider S has a 5 gallon tank and starts at $20k. Can do this all day. Nightster and Sportster S both have smaller gas tanks than Scout even if the amount is less than half a gallon. Companies go off the engine fueling, chassis and design requirements all while leaving enough out to warrant an upgrade. Some people wanted a 5 gallon tank on a Scout yet will complain how ridiculous a tank that size looks on a frame that small. If you want a bigger tank then Scout isn't the platform. Complaints about Chief's gas tank was a thing yet I got 230 miles out of it. Levels to it.
@RadioRahim01
2 ай бұрын
I can appreciate the knowledge you have on this, .. and that you mention it.. I can see how the Bobber scout and how the Sportster would line up in the same area... I appreciate this little convoy we had B, thanks for replying man
@BrandonBicasso
2 ай бұрын
@@RadioRahim01 that’s just my perspective, G. I just ride what speaks to me and worry about the rest later, but it’s a good conversation to have.
you think you can put a chief or chieftain tank on this thing? LOLs
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Of course you could, with a bit of work.
I really wish Scouts were built for 6'+ riders. Chief is kinda ugly, and I'm tired of H-D's 💩
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Several 6’+ riders enjoyed riding it. Forwards, extended reach seat with 10” risers. 👌🏾
@deangullberry5148
3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonBicasso yep. But I look like a monkey humping a football on small frame bikes...
@BrandonBicasso
3 ай бұрын
Well, caring about looks and function are two different things lol.
You use the word, actually, far too much. Plus, it is a 4 syllable word not three. It's not, "akshully". It's actually, ak shoo uh lee.