Heroscape Fans are Furious

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Heroscape fans are furious at the news announced yesterday. Even though I personally don't think it's terrible. This community is never happy.
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0:00 why you clicked
0:57 quick caveat
1:08 the actual news

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  • @jamestoland5176
    @jamestoland517624 күн бұрын

    It’s a lot per figure, especially painted, but I’m just stoked to get new releases. When they do start releasing common squads they’ll have to lower the price point because no way people can afford 65$ per squad.

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    24 күн бұрын

    The theory amongst the fans is the uniques are more expensive cause you’ll only buy them once

  • @mechaman88

    @mechaman88

    23 күн бұрын

    @@tabletopbro They probably are also indexing off other mini games and that's a mixed indicator.

  • @DiscoBarbarian

    @DiscoBarbarian

    22 күн бұрын

    good luck finding a painted mini that isn't garbage paint for those prices anywhere.

  • @Tharukan
    @Tharukan24 күн бұрын

    9 $ per mini unpainted is still really expensive when compared to mini nowadays, not even the prices 20 years ago, even compared to something like GW since the quality is clearly lower. 12 $ per painted mini is more reasonable, but still quite steep. I understand the backlash, gotta admit.

  • @kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860
    @kingerikthegreatest.ofall.786024 күн бұрын

    I’m just glad heroscape is back .

  • @TalesofValhalla
    @TalesofValhalla24 күн бұрын

    Definitely hyped. no butthurt here. 😂

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    24 күн бұрын

    Hell yeah!

  • @crapphone7744
    @crapphone774423 күн бұрын

    Saying this stuff is cheaper than war hammer is setting a low bar. Gold bullion is cheaper than Warhammer.

  • @ryguyplaysgames
    @ryguyplaysgames24 күн бұрын

    Look at Scrooge McDuck and his moneybags over here 😆 great vid, one point of clarification is that Avalon Hill and the War Council designed these to be fully backwards compatible with classic scape a la Iron Lich Viscerot, not Renegade

  • @benharris9079

    @benharris9079

    24 күн бұрын

    Get out of here you hater! :)

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    23 күн бұрын

    Potato potahto

  • @ForFutureReference
    @ForFutureReference24 күн бұрын

    My only complaint, and it’s not even complaint but an oddity, I just think it’s weird that there’s 0 terrain in the army expansions. And yet they’re the same price as the Battle box….thats weird right??

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    24 күн бұрын

    That’s p weird

  • @AndrewGarrett_LordTubtub
    @AndrewGarrett_LordTubtub24 күн бұрын

    I have never seen someone so excited about SPARKLEY WATER!?!?!? No fandom hates a fandom more than its fans. Thanks for making videos to entertain us.

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    23 күн бұрын

    You don’t get it man the sparkly water tiles look soooooo much better! Thanks for watching the stuff!

  • @krohnt

    @krohnt

    17 күн бұрын

    @@tabletopbro Agreed and they look so much better and don't break like the brittle other water. $30 is a good deal, my only thought is if I get the master set and the battle box, they both come with sparkly water. Would I need the $30 water set? Perhaps do a video breaking this down. :)

  • @leeholland3437
    @leeholland343712 күн бұрын

    As an X-Wing refugee, $13 per painted figure sounds like a steal. Be thankful for what you have! 😅

  • @AwakeTooLong
    @AwakeTooLong22 күн бұрын

    People upset at these prices would have an aneurysm if they looked at 40k

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    22 күн бұрын

    $50 for 10 unpainted unbuilt space marines is a steal wym (I actually enjoy building the figures)

  • @AwakeTooLong

    @AwakeTooLong

    21 күн бұрын

    @@tabletopbro They're up to $63 now for a box of Intercessors on the GW site, haha. But so help me, I enjoy building, painting, and playing.

  • @tristanswim
    @tristanswim18 күн бұрын

    As an oldtime fanatic with still an olympic collection sitting in bins, I can't justify the new relases unfortunately. Price being 1 dealbreaker, and its just 2nd or 3rddary to my priorities rn, but I'm still pretty happy to see it and how the figures have that same og kind of style. The lacking depth in character function and design bothers me more these days, but it's still quite cool to see how they unfold unique new ideas. I look forward to watching the progress of the revival, and may still pull the trigger on something someday if I'm drawn in enough.

  • @dungeonsanddiscourse
    @dungeonsanddiscourse23 күн бұрын

    sign me up to the angry nerd community plz (those prices are a bit ouch)

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    23 күн бұрын

    Well you know far more about war game prices than me so I’ll trust your judgement!

  • @JustRollandGo
    @JustRollandGo20 күн бұрын

    What's the mic and camera you use? Those are nice. Thanks

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    19 күн бұрын

    Shure MV7 is the mic, Canon 90d with the kit lens is the camera

  • @MaxsonAtTheFort
    @MaxsonAtTheFort23 күн бұрын

    The common squads better be 30 bucks a pop tops. No way in hell I’m buying more than two of a common squad if they’re more than 30 bucks a pop. WE NEED DUNGEON TERRAIN AND OUTCROPS ASAP! I have 5 Road to the Forgotten Forest but I’d welcome new woodland trees.😅

  • @WaynePeacock
    @WaynePeacock23 күн бұрын

    8-12 for an unpainted mini sounds about right . Battletech players sometimes use ‘scape Terrain.

  • @nkbdl
    @nkbdl12 күн бұрын

    I thought it is cool and I do agree the prices are a bit steep. I am not sure what benchmark they are comparing (As if they compare WarHammer I am not sure if that's correct because to me HeroScape is closer to toys than the hobby grade stuffs). I just love that it is again moving and publishing new stuffs. I can wait perhaps and just see how it goes.

  • @lucasharder3745
    @lucasharder374519 күн бұрын

    The editing on your videos is fantastic

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    18 күн бұрын

    Thanks! I work hard on it

  • @TechnoGolem
    @TechnoGolem21 күн бұрын

    I depise assembling and painting minis. I don't mind the prices since I've had to pay more to get others to paint my minis. Not to mention, I don't have to worry about people, I hired to paint them, stealing them. Something that happened to me years ago. I compare it to heroclix. I've spent a lot more per figure for that game. I guess I am just a whale who enjoys Heroscape and is willing to support it.

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    21 күн бұрын

    God forbid somebody be pleased with their offering

  • @IrregularFish
    @IrregularFish22 күн бұрын

    I'm hyped as hell and will probably buy all of these so enjoy your 36$ my man 😂 Also the water pack is something I desperately wanted for wave 1 so I'm glad to see the sparkle water come back

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    22 күн бұрын

    I appreciate your business. The $13 I received in commission from your purchase will go towards THOSE SICK ASS SPARKLY WATER TILES LETS GOOOOO

  • @reidnadasky5539
    @reidnadasky55398 күн бұрын

    I’m so excited it’s back! Yea it’s a bit on the steep side but shouldn’t be too bad. One set a month I guess lol. I know renegade mentioned it would be selling in game store but have they mentioned anything about Walmart or target? Lager chains to sell?

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    8 күн бұрын

    Probably not big box retailers🤷‍♂️

  • @leeholland3437
    @leeholland343712 күн бұрын

    The World of Warcraft music in your video got me tweakin

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    12 күн бұрын

    I’m so hype for the War Within

  • @Sonintendy
    @Sonintendy18 күн бұрын

    “That’s $9 per figure unpainted and $13 prepainted” glances at $35 cadre fireblade model unbuilt and unpainted on my hobby shelf.

  • @NevTheDeranged

    @NevTheDeranged

    17 күн бұрын

    $13 per figure wouldn't be bad if I was buying them one at a time.

  • @dogedad5172
    @dogedad517224 күн бұрын

    kind of sad we arent seeing more OG characters from the game before but happy they're already sending out some expansions. I think its weird they are offering pre-painted minis. At this day and age pretty much every game requires you to paint unless youre playing basic dnd

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    24 күн бұрын

    I assume the prepainted minis are a response to the community’s outrage 2ish years ago to the lack of prepainted minis. We get to see the return of the classic units like Sgt. Drake Alexander, Raelin, and Sonlen; but for the most part we’re gonna see more original looking figures as Hasbro wanted IPable stuff

  • @ckclau3422
    @ckclau342219 күн бұрын

    I looked up the pronunciation of Kyrie and it’s like 50/50

  • @NevTheDeranged

    @NevTheDeranged

    17 күн бұрын

    To me this is like the argument over the hard or soft G in GIF. Which is to say, it's not an argument because one side is clearly, inarguably, uncontestably incorrect. The G in GIF is hard because it stands for Graphics, and Kyrie is pronounce "keeree" not "kairee" because it's short for valkyrie. Argument over, thank you and goodnight. =P

  • @ckclau3422

    @ckclau3422

    17 күн бұрын

    @@NevTheDeranged but tons of people say valkighree

  • @NevTheDeranged

    @NevTheDeranged

    17 күн бұрын

    @@ckclau3422 Sure, "kiree" is closer to correct, I was trying to keep it simple. Just not the hard Y.

  • @shrimpandguppysoup2275
    @shrimpandguppysoup227522 күн бұрын

    I just bought a pack of 15 Roman’s for only 100$ so it’s hard to buy into the new stuff when I still get good deals on old stuff, if they came out with some decent priced common squads that I can use with my old stuff I’d be much more interested

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    22 күн бұрын

    The new warlord bonds with your Roman’s my dude. Lee (who’s been carrying the company’s good will on her back) says commons are coming once they release the Avalon Hill designed stuff. People theorize the common packs will be cheaper cause people are gonna buy more

  • @shrimpandguppysoup2275

    @shrimpandguppysoup2275

    22 күн бұрын

    @@tabletopbro yea I’m just saying the price is hard to buy into is all I still get better deals on vintage stuff than this new stuff which to me makes no sense especially since I don’t have the full collection of old stuff yet so ima just keep buying old stuff until the price per figure is more worth it to buy new than old

  • @jeffreyscarbroughboardgame2822
    @jeffreyscarbroughboardgame282223 күн бұрын

    No office anything over $5 a fig is too high just saying

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    22 күн бұрын

    Any war games you know of that have figures for $5 a fig or less?

  • @jeffreyscarbroughboardgame2822

    @jeffreyscarbroughboardgame2822

    22 күн бұрын

    @@tabletopbro plenty just got to know where to shop and look around and maybe even buy used . Go to LGS LHS check cons etc . I picked up a game called REIGN for 20$ has 48 miniatures check local thrift stores yard sales ask people if you can buy any games they don't wont any more .

  • @lordnovas
    @lordnovas22 күн бұрын

    Very cool minis, can't wait for the core set.

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    22 күн бұрын

    August!

  • @1teamski
    @1teamski23 күн бұрын

    I can't see commons being offered at any point due to the cost alone. Overall, I haven't seen much to be upset about other than over-use of purple and yellow in the palate and the high cost to play. The style of the figures is a stark departure from the original game and we haven't seen a male Kyrie anywhere in the new set which is interesting.

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    23 күн бұрын

    The prevailing theory is commons will be cheaper and the uniques are more expensive cause you only buy them once

  • @geoffgrigg381
    @geoffgrigg38122 күн бұрын

    2:38 for cost you should be comparing their cost per unit or cost per model to other wargames of a similar size not to how much they costed 20th are ago. But I still feel like $9 and $13 per is too steep. Battletech works out to be between $5-9 per mech depending on which pack you get.

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    22 күн бұрын

    I dunno enough about Battletech to have an intelligent response🤷🏻‍♂️ I compare to how much the old stuff costs now and it’s about par for the course

  • @smileydog5941
    @smileydog59412 сағат бұрын

    Im still hyped

  • @veneroso3337
    @veneroso333722 күн бұрын

    Is it sparkly water!?!?!?

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    22 күн бұрын

    Youre god damn right

  • @marcbennett9232
    @marcbennett923224 күн бұрын

    i'll be honest, I dont even think its a lot per figure. compare it to any current GW release and see how it measures up price wise. are the GW sculpts better? probably. but to say the price is excessive is just wrong IMO. also the second set that you listed as higher cost per figure, one of those figures is a double sized model, so basically priced as 2 models, making the cost the same as the first set. EDIT: for the people who want the terrain, the terrain pack is great. the water is also an awesome addition. the 3 hex water is actually nice, it will make setup slightly easier. although I might have to do some kind of mark to separate the hexes

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    23 күн бұрын

    Noooooo they’re just greedy and price gouging and want to see this IP DIE!!!!!! /s

  • @b.orwoll6808
    @b.orwoll680813 күн бұрын

    Well i dont think people can complain about the price of the figures, i mean have you seen the price of some of the stuff nowadays. Its like $100 for the spiders alone.

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    12 күн бұрын

    The meta figures are easily just as, if not more, expensive

  • @b.orwoll6808

    @b.orwoll6808

    12 күн бұрын

    Ya so i think the prices are pretty fair, i just love this game so :D. Also, You're the first KZreadr to respond to me, thanks.

  • @austinhale2832

    @austinhale2832

    12 күн бұрын

    @@b.orwoll6808I’m just some dude🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @benharris9079
    @benharris907924 күн бұрын

    You are many things but "normie" is *not* one of them. Love the video, as always.

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    23 күн бұрын

    Thanks DS!

  • @MrMc_yoyo-ho9tl
    @MrMc_yoyo-ho9tl23 күн бұрын

    LETS GO

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    23 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the great description of lich lord what’s his name (I’m responding on mobile don’t sue me)

  • @MrMc_yoyo-ho9tl

    @MrMc_yoyo-ho9tl

    23 күн бұрын

    We need to normalize the name

  • @Voltekker
    @Voltekker22 күн бұрын

    Welcome to games workshop pricing,

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    22 күн бұрын

    Freaking forreal

  • @MrMc_yoyo-ho9tl
    @MrMc_yoyo-ho9tl23 күн бұрын

    I am not mad at Renegade, but my wallet is mad at me.

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    23 күн бұрын

    I feel that lmao

  • @lincawebot3681
    @lincawebot368122 күн бұрын

    >AI ""art""

  • @owlman166
    @owlman16623 күн бұрын

    KY-REE sounds better sorry, gonna keep sayin' it that way. ;) Also, nice click bait - "Fans are furious"...Lol, only a few on the Discord are annoyed. Over all I think it's pretty well received. I'm very stoked and already pre-ordered all prepainted stuff

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    23 күн бұрын

    Absolute cap. KEE-REE is superior! Gotta get the clicks somehow and rage sells🤷🏻‍♂️ Though I did see nothing but complaining on the Heroscapers discord immediately after the announcement. I’m genuinely stoked too and getting myself the prepainted units too!

  • @johnwhisenhunt5621
    @johnwhisenhunt562122 күн бұрын

    Renegade can keep all their heroscape stuff. I won't be buying it

  • @smileydog5941

    @smileydog5941

    2 сағат бұрын

    Ok. I will

  • @CarbonBallas
    @CarbonBallas22 күн бұрын

    Pricing if fine. Go buy it

  • @crowchant9917
    @crowchant991724 күн бұрын

    I feel like the butthurt fans are very vocal, but not the majority. Overall pretty solid offerings. Toys will always be too expensive 😅.

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    24 күн бұрын

    100%. My theory is most of them don’t even play

  • @crowchant9917

    @crowchant9917

    24 күн бұрын

    @@tabletopbro or they play too much 😄

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    23 күн бұрын

    @@crowchant9917 if they played too much they wouldn’t have time to bitch😂

  • @DiscoBarbarian
    @DiscoBarbarian22 күн бұрын

    wait people are complaining cause a painted figure is 4 dollars more than unpainted? if you think you can get better buy them unpainted and find someone to paint for less than four dollars... lol. you can't realistically compare the costs of a toy from 20 years ago to today. completely unreasonable I'm sure you're making a lot more money now than you did then also.

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    22 күн бұрын

    BUT TWENTY YEARS AGO YOU COULD GET EXPANSION PACKS FOR $8 WHAT DO YOU MEAN TIMES CHANGE??? /s

  • @mavrickindigo
    @mavrickindigo12 күн бұрын

    Ew ai

  • @marvart4536
    @marvart453623 күн бұрын

    It'll get cheaper when it doesn't sell

  • @HowtoRPG
    @HowtoRPG24 күн бұрын

    Very impressive 9 minute advertisement. I wish more KZreadrs with sponsors would just make a stand alone video on the sponsors product, rather than embedding it into a news drama video.

  • @TheRulesLawyerRPG

    @TheRulesLawyerRPG

    24 күн бұрын

    Oh screw off. OP has been consistently covering a game he's passionate about, giving positive and negative coverage. You're going after a regular guy who did his job so well that he succeeded at getting a sponsorship, who probably in the big picture is still working at a loss given how much time goes into making a video. As long as someone is transparent that's all that matters. You're a creator too and should know better

  • @tabletopbro

    @tabletopbro

    23 күн бұрын

    Damn bro who poo poo'd in your cereal? Like @TheRulesLawyerRPG said, I've been consistently covering this game for almost three years and have poo poo'd the direction the developers have gone when I don't agree with it. My hype has always been genuine, even before I stood the chance to make any sort of money from them.

  • @HowtoRPG

    @HowtoRPG

    23 күн бұрын

    @@tabletopbro I have watched a lot of your videos on Heroscape and enjoyed them for your perspective. I thought the video was very good, but had expected a trick. It still felt more like an advertisement than a review, which is perfectly fine when it has a sponsor to promote. I think what you did is how KZreadrs with a sponsor should promote sponsors products, by making the video topic about the product. You did that and my second sentence was not directed at you. Many KZreadrs who use scandal or drama topics to get an audience to watch unrelated sponsor advertisements built into the video are frustrating to watch.

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