I don't think it is wrong to "pander to counterculture". If that's the label for pointing out hypocrisy, it's a badge of honor. If you call out Tom for pandering, you'd have to call out Eminem and many other rappers for pandering to the mainstream.

@mrfoobz5709

3 жыл бұрын

Speaking about your honest opinion isn’t pandering. The problem with Tom is that what he says in his songs, even though I agree with a lot of his stances, is a very surface level take of all these issues, and he never really takes a whole song to focus on one thing. He spends a bar or 2 on a very racially or politically charged topic to drop this dramatic opposing opinion, then moves on to something else instead of taking the time to make it feel real. That’s why people view it as pandering. Same way modern country artists are notorious for pandering to the “southern lifestyle” while living in their mansions in Hollywood just by saying a few words about tractors and moving on 🤣

@itachitsukuyomidcuo9853

3 жыл бұрын

What are you even trying to say? The pandering from Tom (which if you a fan you would have to realise) is he completely jumps side's every other song. Sometimes he can't even stick to the one side for an entire song... He's all over the place and it's not 'his shtick' or 'he's doing it to prove a point' he's literally jumping all over the place to pander to everything as quickly as possible because most people are too stupid to realise what he's doing

@kalabfoster5985

3 жыл бұрын

@@itachitsukuyomidcuo9853 Do you have an example for me? I might be able to give you a fresh perspective.

@vernonboudreaux83

3 жыл бұрын

@@kalabfoster5985 no he dont just a opinion he must not watch his videos much

@kalabfoster5985

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrfoobz5709 So I can see that. I do want to see some more focused issues. He has done that before though, like the songs Sober, Cancer, Cancelled and Sad Rappers. I think he is being careful though. He is trying to stay in the middle of the political spectrum, and point out issues with both sides. I feel like his views on things are still evolving, so you might not see a song only on abortion, or only on Trump, or Biden for that matter. Just my thoughts on that.

The 👀 outside of Tom's fan base wouldn't fully understand what it takes to do it all by yourself. He's not mainstream so saying other "white mainstream" artists are better says nothing. When slim came out he changed the rap game. What Tom is doing independently is changing the rap game. #HOG

@Inner-Influences

6 ай бұрын

And the independent game

this video looks more like defending yourself for hating on tom rather than a reaction video

@scouting281

3 жыл бұрын

this comment looks like you're trying to find a way to hate on Ernest because there isnt any reason to hate him in this video

@davidtuell5558

3 жыл бұрын

@@scouting281 this commenter halfway agrees with both of y’all 😂

@just.random69

3 жыл бұрын

True though 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

@just.random69

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidtuell5558 and I agree with you 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

@nabilk9853

3 жыл бұрын

See clearing up existing misunderstandings, found in some comments, is sensible and useful thing. Lol, thus was definitely a reaction and a fire one at that.

Casual listener, The way I always interpreted his references to 'Slim Shady', a very specific persona of Marshall Mathers, was Slim's ability to generate controversy and conversation. In that context I would agree with him. Same goes with the contacts it's part of Tom's persona. When you see the contacts you know what's coming.

@MrBOOM-fq3lw

3 жыл бұрын

That’s how Tom intends it to be interpreted as but people always miss it

@tjcuillier7024

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly how I always interpret Tom's Slim references as well. I don't think Tom puts himself at Eminem's level, that's why he chose Slim Shady vs Eminem. Why others don't get that...beyond me.

@thefuzz8386

3 жыл бұрын

This. It’s pretty easy to catch bruh.

@HomeDefender30

3 жыл бұрын

TJ Cuillierrier willful ignorance so they can feign outrage. Or they are just not intelligent enough to understand... one or the other.

@anomaly3215

2 жыл бұрын

"casual listener" nice condescending statement lmao

Guaranteed if Tom rapped to his liberal biased viewpoints, he would think Tom is the best "since old slim shady"

@reinaldomartinez13

3 жыл бұрын

why's he comparing himself to old em, just be himself simple

@TheTastiestOfPoisons

3 жыл бұрын

He's a conservative lol!

@chrism4531

3 жыл бұрын

Define conservatism

@chriscross7494

3 жыл бұрын

@@reinaldomartinez13 because he is a Stan.

@ExarchGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. If he was rapping like he does now, and releasing several tracks that were just MSNBC talking points, i'd still call him cringy af. His political persuasion doesn't mean anything to me. it's how cringy the writing is and how low effort it is... i mean one of them his hook is just parroting LITERALLY ben shapiro. I think Don't Look Down is the best track Tom has ever done. He avoids the ultra cringy hooks, no low brow cringy political stuff. This is a Cypher style rap, on an EXCELLENT beat, which he completely bodies. I just hope he aims to this level from now on, because now that we know he can write this well, the low brow stuff will stick out even more if he falls back in to that.

I cant take ppl seriously who only complain about Tom's political pandering when hip hop is full af of political pandering. Just nut up and say he's speaking against your political views when he does it and you're butthurt. I can at least respect the honesty in that. But you ain't above it all homey. You're just pretending your political views are so mainstream that they're not corny and cringe, and they are dude. Nothing is more corny than the mainstream. Ppl see it guy. This is just constructive criticism.

@kuma_kl5192

3 жыл бұрын

Butthurt af

@ExarchGaming

3 жыл бұрын

You first. lmao. Ya'll cry about snowflakes so much you can't see yourselves in the mirror.

@anomaly3215

2 жыл бұрын

bro just cuz something is full of something doesn't mean you can't complain about it..

When he's comparing himself to Eminem, it's less about the BARS and STYLE, and more about how controversial Em was in the beginning of his career. Every time I've heard Tom compare himself to Em, it was about OLD Eminem, the one that people hated and tried to cancel, but who showed he could do it, and who said whatever he wanted and didn't care what anyone thought.

@DONOTELLO

3 жыл бұрын

he said the greatest rapper since old slim shady, you’re trying to defend lyrics but don’t even listen to what he’s saying lmfao, he’s not saying he’s doing that because of how he was treated he said greatest RAPPER since old slim shady.

@sumukhbharadwaj6216

3 жыл бұрын

Well, he's neither.

@N8zPro

3 жыл бұрын

He's referencing his accomplishments. Check his plaques, his plays, his album sales. He is one hundred percent comparable to Old Slim. Old Slim came in and fought for a spot in a predominantly black game, and now Tom is doing the same while having no label.

@sumukhbharadwaj6216

3 жыл бұрын

@@N8zPro Fr? I'm still guessing or even hoping most people check out Tom's music only to mock it. Cuz I really don't seem to understand how any other feeling except second hand embarassment is evoked by it.

@N8zPro

3 жыл бұрын

@@sumukhbharadwaj6216 Check the views buddy you're in the minority 😂

He literally said, don’t ask me to remove claims, and this is the reaction video that got claimed😂😂. He was definitely talking to you bro

@anomaly3215

2 жыл бұрын

how dare you have an opinion right

@frankwatkins6223

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree, I think Tom knows and understand constructive criticism. The reaction was enjoyable. However, I enjoy Tom's music and am HOG4Life.

Likes angry Tom songs with no hook, but won’t go back and listen to his other angry songs with no hook. The slim shady thing went over your head homie. The political shit isn’t pandering, he’s literally saying common sense stuff. People calling you out on other reaction channel, about to be an influx of hate. GG

@TheTastiestOfPoisons

3 жыл бұрын

It's definitely pandering. It's almost every song and he puts his ads on youtube videos for people of a similar age group lol!

@DontEven-AsIf-Whatever

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheTastiestOfPoisons He is independent for a reason. Let's see you try🤪👌

@ExarchGaming

3 жыл бұрын

it's 100 percent pandering. No it's not common sense anything, he's just regurgitating right-wing pundits, he literally made a hook for one of the songs just repeating a quote from ben shapiro.

Tell me you're a Liberal without telling me you're a Liberal: Your views on Tom's political songs.

@LadyMystie

3 жыл бұрын

Sooooo true! Only watching this to see Ernest wiggling his way out of hating on Tom. He will bitch about him, while denying that Tom is talking about rappers who dog on him - like Ernest. He's definitely a leftist who hates Tom's politics.

@Killerfang25

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, he getting caught red-handed and now he back pedaling. 🤣😂😭

@scouting281

3 жыл бұрын

Ernest aint liberal LOL have you not seen his ar-15 in the back of his videos????

@MrTambourineMan.

3 жыл бұрын

And what gets me is Tom doesn’t even really JUST speak to the conservative perspective. Lines like “they’ll teach you you’ll go to hell if you don’t support Jesus” from Trying To Kill Me and “I think it’s crazy these people screaming facts but they fake woke. Hate your neighbor because he wears a mask and he stays home” from Fake Woke are for sure aimed at the right. The right today just aren’t as sensitive for whatever reason, so they’re not offended

@sweetkissez64

3 жыл бұрын

@@scouting281 lmao.....so a Liberal can't own a gun?! Didn't know that was a rule now. 🤷

It is pretty clear why he compares himself to the politically incorrect, fully outspoken, little corny, anit-mainstream and anti-establishment Old Shady. Em changed and there was a gap since then. TMD fills it and sees himself as the natural successor. That has nothing to do with sales or money.

Better tuck in that chain bro 😂

@MrsJoJo7694

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO! 😂

@jharris4854

3 жыл бұрын

lmao

@xxmystiganxx9060

3 жыл бұрын

Riiight lol

@Casualstbest

2 жыл бұрын

His chains fake anyways

@cudbertocastro8676

2 жыл бұрын

Fr fr lol this fool a hater lil mitch 😂

I'm 6 minutes so far... I'ma ride it out, however Please stop talking about the "pandering"... Gangster rap "panders" to killers and strippers. Sad rappers pander to suicidal listeners. Mumble rap panders to dope fiends... Country rap panders to those that live in the sticks. You're not selling people on the pander statement. Tom is expressing how he feels. Just like any other artist. Have you stopped and thought to yourself: "I hate Rage Against The Machine or System of a Down" because they pandered? Did you say that Eminem pandered to Democrats when it was eff Trump supporters? No hate, just a question. Let's keep going...I got about 18 minutes left

@Whitesquall123

3 жыл бұрын

Right? I think Ernest doesn't understand what pandering means. Tom doesn't make stuff only to appeal to his fans. Tom makes things and people find it appealing and he gains fans. Huge difference.

@sweetkissez64

3 жыл бұрын

@@Whitesquall123 I also feel Tom makes his "political" songs to get people thinking and talking.....and hopefully see the hypocrisy on both sides of the aisle.

@lordie65

3 жыл бұрын

Great response.

@manbroskyrides6559

3 жыл бұрын

NF is pandering to depressed people I guess. Just another white rapper pandering... Yep, sounds like he's living in an echo chamber. I hate to say that because I love this channel and he legit gives the best breakdowns but damn. This was hard to watch. He kept using the word "normal" and that's what was driving me crazy. Bro, nothing is considered normal where you live except for where you live lol. I lived out there... As well as the southwest and the midwest. Yeah, people in Cali tend to think differently than the majority. That's fine, you're allowed to not have Tom's views and it's your channel but it seemed like your reasoning was... Wrong. "I'm not biased" but every other sentence is super biased lol. Just own it and move on. You're allowed to be biased. Literally everyone has biases. "I don't agree with his views and his political music makes me cringe. This is going to be biased because I can't stand his message in his songs.". I'd respect that more than what you were saying. "I'm not biased but his music is about politcal bs that's cringe and corny and normal people don't like it".

You claim this is what triggers the real actual rap fans. Putting yourself in this category above anyone who likes tom. Because true real rap fans like yourself are turned off by tom. So you continue to belittle and subtly trash talk his entire fan base. Talking about how he just panders to a certain demographic. You paint them in a negative light then. Then sit here going why yall so triggered and think I'm hating. You don't just state your opinions. You put yourself in a group that's better then any other group that disagree with yours. There are a lot of different people that connect with tom in a lot of different ways.

Your defending yourself more than you criticize tom macdonald.

@i_am_fallen

3 жыл бұрын

No.

@brucec9600

3 жыл бұрын

@@i_am_fallen - yes

@i_am_fallen

3 жыл бұрын

@@brucec9600 Maybe.

@anomaly3215

2 жыл бұрын

you're.

He addressed the cussing, he said it's specifically because of the youngsters, and families that all listen together. I respect that. I think it's very sweet of him. Maybe a bit Canadian, lol. Great review.

@1mommamiia

3 жыл бұрын

Truth

@Jodi_Johnson

3 жыл бұрын

And for the algorithm

@Jodi_Johnson

3 жыл бұрын

The cussing is definitely on Spotify and iTunes

@1mommamiia

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jodi_Johnson and on his albums

@rccarothers

3 жыл бұрын

100% Right! This dude says don't criticize my reactions b/c you are sucked in by Tom but I WILL CRITICIZE TOM MCDONALD b/c he doesn't do what I LIKE. This dude is a Wanker!!! Please Mr. 3rd ernest, what have you EVER DONE to even come close to the Creativity & GRIND Tom & Nova create in MASS AMOUNTS Consistently as a 100% Independent Artists from the very Beginning! Marshal would not be who he is today w/o Dr. Dre & a Label that spends $1,000,000's over the year's on Promotion, Top of the line $1,000,000's & $$$$ on Video's, Paid World tour's & Marketing/Promotion Times $Millions.$ For Eminem 🤔 Em's earlier work around Tom's age 20 years ago was fire. Barring a few recent tracts Em is nowhere as good as he use to be! Do you or can't you respect an Independent Artist who chooses to share his 🔥🔥🔥with young & old! If you want the swear words support Tom by buying a few of his albums, he does not sensor those. Besides with as many view's you've gotten, just to Tom's Videos... I'd say he's earned your patronage. Last but not least, Marshall Mathers has become as Vanilla/Generic as one of the most Pro Establishment WOKE Artist's/SJW's that pander & lick the Boot of the ESTABLISHMENT they once Railed against! There are so many top Artists today (Rage Against The Machine, Pearl Jam, Tool, basically everyone at least openly & Punk Rock has become Pro Establishment,🤮🤮 Democrat Pro Government & MSM Abuse & like I said Rap (Eminem, Snoop, Dre, etc. Etc). They all now Preach for the Establishment & there is Zero comeback to that truth, if you're Honest w/yourself??? Let's take your flip flopping down a couple notches. Have you heard Dear Slim Tom paid $100,000 on in an auction for Slims beat just to say Thank You Eminem, you Inspired me as a kid & your music saved my life! Just let go & join The $HOG4LIFE Family! Everyone is accepted! Tom MacDonald is the most Punk Rock & more Fucking Rock N' Roll than any one in Music Today! He Rails against the Establishment like no one else & that will never ever allow him into the Grammys, the Industry & Recognition among most of Main Stream Rappers/Musicians b/c they are both jealous & Scared of this MF GOAT! Don't speak for scaredy cats & other's opinions even if they're chicken shit to say Please Stand Up, Please Stand Up, They shouldn't have a reaction channel. They R Guilty & charged with being a WAP (Wet Ass P*ssy)!😂🤣😎 Maybe if you find your truth instead of pandering (or maybe I'm wrong & you just have the worst taste in music) you might hit 200,000 subs & more in the next 6-12 months but only if you mix your reactions up. 189k in 12 years? Yo, there's a difference between making great Reactions w/out losing your truth & do it in a smoother way & never pander, you will truly blow up with more subs++++! So unless you are INDEPENDENTLY Wealthy (Trust Fund Baby does not count), a new approach will grow your channel beyond belief! I'm interested in your bio. Do you make music? Or any part of the Music Industry? If not it blows me away how your Reactionary Criticism is in a way a tad Narcissistic. I'm not trying to Troll, but just like you & give you some of my (Free even though it's worth TWO CENTS) 🤤😜suggestions/thoughts/advice. I may soumd a bit Crass but I am not judging your character or channel in fact I just became a sub b/c I think you have the Shit to be big! So this is my reaction to your overall Reactions to Tom Macdonald's Videos/songs. Funny how that works. 👏🏼🔥🤘🏻🔥👏🏼🔥✌🏼👏🏼 I look forward to seeing more reactions from you! PS I'm not trying to throw any Shade at you at all!

Tom don’t even look down when he takes a piss…. This was a straight up verbal flybye lol

@NeoTribe1

3 жыл бұрын

Ernest has to look down before pissing because he has to make sure the toilet seat is down.

@amylemiuex4215

3 жыл бұрын

@@NeoTribe1 nah he isn't checking the toilet seat, he is making sure he is close enough to the toilet so he don't pee on the floor with his little guy

What you call pandering, many would call speaking honestly. Yes, of course he plays to his base...but if you listen to the words over several songs, where he speaks on the same subjects in different ways...he's not preaching a message, he's on about the contradictions. As far as Eminem...if you dislike someone because they compare themselves to him and it somehow gets in your feels, your missing what he's saying. He's not saying "I'm as popular and sold as many albums"...he's saying he raps on things everyone else is afraid to, like Shady did. Oh and let's not forget Shady had Dre and the entire industry behind him...Tom has fans, he will never outsell Shady, but to have the sales and charts he does as independent...one could argue that point.

@hbkavnish

3 жыл бұрын

It's not about sales, Tom said he's the greatest rapper since slim shady which is just not true.

@grimreaper1473

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not saying that he is...rap is flexing, and even he has said he doesn't say he's as good or better than Shady...but since he changed things as he obviously did, who has had been as outspoken and controversial in their lyrics as Tom has (with an audience large enough to matter...)?

@hbkavnish

3 жыл бұрын

@@grimreaper1473 Why does anyone need to be controversial to be good? If he wants to be considered in the conversation of great rappers he should've respected the OGs, put out some music and let it speak for itself. It's really annoying watching him compare himself to the same 48 year old rapper in every single song

@grimreaper1473

3 жыл бұрын

@@hbkavnish Again, how did Slim become the legend he is? Would he have been noticed if he wasn't controversial? How long was he making that music? And again, there was Dre and an entire industry behind him. And, if he your idol, isn't that the goal, to become him? So obviously he's going to compare himself.

@DW-hd1qf

3 жыл бұрын

I have to disagree with you on the pandering. Ive listened to Tom for a long time and used to really enjoy everything he put out. I was the first one to stand up for him when people got mad about certain lyrics because he rode the middle so well. He used to speak on things honestly and he took flack from both sides because he was Canadian and had a different perspective on America than just left or right, but somewhere along the way he seemed to discover that pandering hard to the right gained him more fans than it cost him. At that point he clearly made a conscious decision to pander exclusively to the right even and especially when it directly contradicted viewpoints he had expressed in the past. When you relinquish your own viewpoints to to cater to the viewpoints of the majority of your fanbase, you are pandering, and being a libertarian myself who used to agree with about 99% of Toms viewpoints, its was and has been disheartening to see that drop closer to 50 or 60 percent because he would rather have the money than the integrity of speaking honestly..

I had an open mind, as this was my first reaction from you, but dude, it’s just hard to watch. The way you hop around is flatly annoying. Pausing I expect, and I’m here for the breakdown, but I don’t get why you don’t go thru the whole track. As for the “old slim shady” line, you completely missed the point. Tom is saying no one since Shady has had the balls to talk about anything that matters. Unless you think girls, drugs and drinking is important. I am a huge Eminem fan, but the mainstream rap game has been garbage for years. It’s refreshing to have so many new, independent artists coming out with great writing and fire vids. That’s my opinion anyway.

@tberrier2000

3 жыл бұрын

I agree...

@MattTofslie

3 жыл бұрын

FACTS!

@chrisgibbs3141

3 жыл бұрын

Preach

@micheleromero6538

3 жыл бұрын

This 👆💯. He just turned me off from ever watching another reaction from him.

@markdunaway7489

3 жыл бұрын

Well said! This guy is a total clown!

If you think Tom is the only one who thinks Tom and Em are similar, you are sadly mistaken my friend

@amysewell8141

3 жыл бұрын

Tom is like Marshall without the dictionary or alien brain

@amysewell8141

3 жыл бұрын

He gives zero fucks lol

@shortymtz4658

3 жыл бұрын

He no where near em star power. I'm sorry. I dont see it. I can understand why y'all say it. But he no eminem

@bryguy9231

3 жыл бұрын

@@shortymtz4658 no one said they were carbon copies if each other....

@Nazyairsengikar

3 жыл бұрын

@@amysewell8141 Tom is far better than Em lol EM has kid lyrics.

"If I'm so trash, why don't you release your videos on a Friday? Because thats MY DAY"

The "old Slim Shady" is a reference to Em's first two albums. Em changed. It's about the honesty in the voice, not the success, or even the skillz. Although Tom is doing fine there as well. Especially since it's just him and Nova.

@heathgreen9275

3 жыл бұрын

Also the old slim shady is gone. Eminem sold out to hollywood

@jenb8299

3 жыл бұрын

@@heathgreen9275 how?

@the19kings

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah go listen to ringer and say em ain't being honest.

@sonnygmony

3 жыл бұрын

@@the19kings Well I wasn’t dissing Em. Basically it’s like this, Em has been to successful for too long. Yeah, he’s still honest. I was a little sloppy in what I was trying to say... Eminem is just not as raw and connected to the struggle as he used to be. Still an amazing talent though.

@hbkavnish

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonnygmony Do you want a 48 year old rapper to struggle?

Bro...all the "white" rappers you named ALL of the had labels and millions of dollars behind them. Tom is by far the most successful independent rapper other than maybe TekN9ne. And if you honestly listened to his catalog, he is one of a handful of rappers that can be compared to the greatness of the old slim shady. Tom is for sure one of them!

@justusvisser8545

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@ostrichproject1715

3 жыл бұрын

Here's the thing- I bet he has listened to the catalog. Think about that.

@shamanicapothecary3717

3 жыл бұрын

@@ostrichproject1715 Lol...you can clearly tell hel hasn't listened to Tom's catalog and he even admits to it. Think about that...clown

@nathantownsend317

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone is backwards on the old shady comparison, he’s not saying he’s as good as shady was back in the day he’s saying he’s the only one that has no filter and will speak about anything like old shady did and he’s 100% right

@wolaffarms6766

3 жыл бұрын

If you haven't listened to This House your opinion is incomplete.

Tom censors his songs because he knows a lot of his fans allow their kids to listen also and as far as I'm concerned that's a respectable thing to do.

@Lestat13

3 жыл бұрын

It’s about the coin...if parents are letting their kids listen to People so stupid or Snowflakes... I gotta question what kind of message they’re treating their children. Explains why nearly half the country can be so easily fooled into believing the big lie...smfh...

@jesseecarden5877

3 жыл бұрын

The big lie?

@ProudAmerican1829

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lestat13 you mean having conversations about these controversial topics and learning to think critically? Tom doesn't take sides. He points out the hypocrisies and contradictions in society and forces you to face them, while simultaneously creating a way to invite conversation between people on both sides of the aisle. Typically, the third verse (or bridge) of his political songs is where you'll find the true message he's trying to convey that undergirds the rest of the song.

@brasshound4442

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lestat13 Those songs describe exactly what’s wrong with our country right now I hope to god kids are being taught about it. The radical narrative is not going to last and people will have to reconcile.

@Lestat13

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProudAmerican1829 Doesn’t take sides? Are we listening to the same songs? In Snowflakes, he goes after Progressive Democrats, anti-gun legislation...People so Stupid, he goes after Pro-choice, LGBTQ, attempting to equate white issues with the Black struggle (you fucking kidding me?) & so on. Critically thinking, how can you say that he doesn’t take sides? In addition, it’s incredibly easy to point out the problems with society...where’s an attempt @ solutions? Wan-wah 😸

No hook and he turned both Stevie Knight and Ernest. Thats a strong pen game. Appreciate you Ernest!

@Dsparky121

3 жыл бұрын

Ernest’s biggest complaint has always been Tom’s hooks, skipping the hook is probably what turned him over

@o0Beck0o

3 жыл бұрын

He didn't turn either of those guys. They liked a song. Their criticisms are the same. So until Tom doesn't do those things anymore and drop records like this one... they liked a song, they didn't turn anything

@KyleParks

3 жыл бұрын

@@o0Beck0o fair enough. Better than nothing I guess.

@davidpaterson2643

3 жыл бұрын

@@o0Beck0o I dunno about that, one of the things I appreciate about Tom is the versatility and variety of his shit, from hard like this and the likes of No Response, to many others songs that ant even on the same road let alone the same lane. No Good Bastards was verging on country... I don't think anyone will ever like all his tracks, but many are going to like atleast a few, and that's going to get him a big ass following!

@o0Beck0o

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidpaterson2643 you're trying to assert Tom's appeal... that wasn't the topic. The topic is Ernest and Stevie being turned. I watch those two reactors almost religiously. They don't particularly like Tom's music as a whole. They both said he has tracks, like this one that they fuck with... but as hip hop heads, his sound, his content etc on his singles that he releases are just not their flavor. They've repeated themselves and have to tip toe around the topic because even though HOG are huge supporters for those who like Tom, they are seething for those who openly admit that Tom isn't their cup of tea. So, as I stated... my opinion is that neither of those dudes are "turned" because of a single song. Tom would neeeeeed to produce multiple songs like this track right NOW to "turn" these dudes. But until that happens, Tom's hooks, his pandering, his content is going to turn these guys off, as well as the vast, VAST majority of the hip hop community. We all respect the dude, his hussle, his grind, his coming up as an independent artist is all commendable a d impressive... but his sound, his content just isn't for everybody. And if we HAVE to listen to these ______ songs to "get him" to have any sort of relatability to him is borderline desperate to try and "turn" non Tom fans into Tom fans. That's kinda like trying to say Tom should change his sound to be more palatable to a wider range of listeners.

Maybe within the hip hop community it doesn't sit well to hear him say, "he is the greatest since old slim shady." But there is a large demographic of people, like myself, who do think this. Nobody has got my attention since Em like Tom. Maybe, within the community, this seems to be a stretch but outside your bubble, the world audience as a whole, has many who absolutely agree with that line.

@TheThirdErnest

3 жыл бұрын

I mean it’s all subjective. He can def be your goat if his music hits you that way, But objectively speaking, the vast majority of people who listen to rap and are around the culture would agree he’s not the goat. Not even close. Same for NF. They are outcast of the genre and that’s not a bad thing. That’s their lane.

@JasonPeltier

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheThirdErnest I searched for Boom Bap 101 on your channel but didn't find it. It's a little over 2 minutes but I bet you'll dig the whole thing.

@notworried5245

2 жыл бұрын

You cant tell this reactor anything because he thinks he represents the majority of Rap enthusists. However it's kind of funny by his logic, isn't he guilty of culture appropriation himself as a rap moderator of sorts, when he's not even of the culture that started it? Funny how that's only appropriate when a white persons involved

You might not want to make too many assumptions I absolutely enjoy Toms controversial political things and I'm not even close to the right

In my opinion this is a MASTERPIECE. THE RASPY VOICE AND PASSION ALONE MAKE THIS A 10/10

@mala6238

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@TheThirdErnest

3 жыл бұрын

It’s def a solid song. Prob my favorite of him

@mala6238

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheThirdErnest good reaction. I like that you keep it real!

@NeoTribe1

3 жыл бұрын

@@mala6238 He did not even react to the song.... He literally thru a defensive bitch fit for 22 minutes. 1 minute was a couple snippets of the real video

@shellywesterman-dierkes6513

2 жыл бұрын

💯

who knew a tom mac song would go on earnests imaginary workout playlist

@MattTofslie

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@josephcoon5809

3 жыл бұрын

Damn… way to be inspirational. You should be a guidance counselor. 😂 Toughen these kids right up. 😂

@Killerfang25

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh. Tom flexed so much, Ernest started thinking about going to Gym. LMAO 🤣😂😭

@josephcoon5809

3 жыл бұрын

@@Killerfang25 And he flipped on whether Tom was controversial within 2:00 minutes. 😂 Earnest didn’t know wtf hit him, and that was with the stuff he actually understood. 😂

@Killerfang25

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephcoon5809 BROOO I SWEAR I BE CRACKING UP. Meanwhile on his Token reaction, he be saying the most shiitiest shii that a reactor could ever say. Then he goes “I’m just tryna help Tom up” 🤡💥🔫

Do "this house" "I'm sorry" and "boombap 101" by tom no hooks just rapping

@danielMayheM13

3 жыл бұрын

Yes true..

@oscarp1074

3 жыл бұрын

You missed NO RESPONSE

@alessandrochiesa8823

3 жыл бұрын

@@oscarp1074 that he already did

He doesn't cut out cussing for monetization, he cuts so that people can listen with their whole family.

@coryclark5442

3 жыл бұрын

Youre.. Kind of right? Im pretty sure he does it so youtube doesnt push his music down since they hate cussing. Even tho other trending vids are perverted and raunchy with sh*t lyrics about drugs and s*x

@thr33n9neofficial39

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't it because he wants videos to be ads? I'm not sure if you can use profanity and ads but I've definitely seen his videos in ads

@Loser_Alter_Ego

3 жыл бұрын

@@thr33n9neofficial39 I think you can't swear within the first minute or two to stay monetized. Other than that, you can say a lot and still have ads. I'm sure there is more than one reason to censor himself on here.

@glowingsme7943

3 жыл бұрын

Spotify and Apple doesn’t cut the sweat words out.

@vanhalen911

3 жыл бұрын

I mean yeah but you are reviewing rap songs.... go make a NF channel if you don't want any swearing. Lol This would be like if you reviewed pornos yet you leave out anything with genitals 🤣

I love how someone who's not a rapper or in the industry spends their life and time saying who's dope and who's not. Also, pandering to counter culture? Maybe your a bit of a lefty and get offended? Just saying...

@TheThirdErnest

3 жыл бұрын

First off I lean right politically and I’m not offended by anything he says. And I get to spend my time saying whos dope and whose not because majority of people respect my opinion and vast knowledge of the genre.

@miker4354

3 жыл бұрын

You are the one watching the content you criticize. You openly chose to watch this, a video about a person's opinion. funny

@scouting281

3 жыл бұрын

@@miker4354 he just does it because he really does want to like Tom, he explains clearly why he doesnt though and it makes sense... if you didnt see stuff so onesided you would understand, thatll come with time hopefully

@Killerfang25

3 жыл бұрын

@@scouting281 So he “likes” Tom so much that he went after Tom’s fanbase by making fun of their comments and opinions towards Tom’s ‘Snowflakes’? He “likes” Tom so much that he called Tom “culture vulture” on his rant towards the end of his reaction on ‘Hi Tyler the Creator song’.

@krump743

3 жыл бұрын

Watching a youtube reactor reacting to a song while critiquing that reactor..... just wanna know when your album comi g out, you know as ur in the industry and all to be able to comment on it 😂 flop.

I am not a Tom fan at all but this was it...I like this Tom!🔥

The old Slim Shady was counter-culture. That's Tom. That's his point. He's not "pandering", he knows what he says is considered "controversial", but it's to create uncomfortable conversations.

@danielmontoya2494

3 жыл бұрын

Nah its just pandering

@artissubjective6279

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielmontoya2494 If you think it's pandering, it obviously goes over your head.

@danielmontoya2494

3 жыл бұрын

@@artissubjective6279 nah

@artissubjective6279

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielmontoya2494 I'm not arguing against a small-minded person, it OBVIOUSLY goes over your head. If you don't get it, you never will.

@danielmontoya2494

3 жыл бұрын

@@artissubjective6279 Its just pandering

So far, you're the only one who has cut so much of the video out. Tom musta been talking about you. Lol. You spent more time defending your point than listening to the song. And he doesn't cuss bc he KNOWS kids watch him and he's NOT your typical rapper or Cardi B....he wants to be a role model. Get it??

@alexchavez9083

3 жыл бұрын

Ya he is the typical shoot um up bang bang cardi b bumping blk on blk crime supporting Tom true fact hating average you tuber with a left wing leaning point of view basically Tom's hatter lol I'm out

@fullsend4life28

3 жыл бұрын

He wants to be a role model but raps about wanting to do Xanax lmao. Even when in previous songs he says he will never do that.

@alexchavez9083

3 жыл бұрын

@@fullsend4life28 what's wrong with speaking about addiction and not giving in I suppose cardi b is better now high school girls can drop out and train to be call girls then hu ya much better

@skyrise81

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexchavez9083 LMAO FACTS 👌

I agree with a lot of what you’re saying but you can’t just call everything you disagree with “pandering”. That kind of invalidation of someone’s points to just sucking up is what causes division in America.

@h.s.6269

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, calling it pandering instead of considering it may be his legitimate viewpoint is pretty invalidating, both to him and others who share the views. Totally ok to think differently than others but its rude to automatically assume the worst like it's"pandering" vs it being his legit stance.

Definitely one of your best traits is to actually critique a song. Almost all of the reactors just jump up and down at any song regardless of the "sound"

@DR.DisInfect

3 жыл бұрын

You're watching wrong reactors then

@yerlinmorel4342

3 жыл бұрын

That's why I stopped watching Nolifeshaq :|

@Sunkhrist

3 жыл бұрын

@@yerlinmorel4342 understandable. I have a few disagreements especially when it comes to him reacting to the “controversial” songs, it just rubs me the wrong way sometimes.

@asmshafin6200

3 жыл бұрын

@@DR.DisInfect do go on with your preferences

@dlehmann8353

3 жыл бұрын

Actually... This is a better Reaction and Breakdown if that is what you are looking for... kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIVlzaRtYKmydM4.html

You gained some major respect from me for this video. Different taste in music is inevitable but you gave him his props for sure in the realm up straight up rap. which is also my favorite stuff from Tom.

I agree with most of the criticisms levied at Tom. His hooks are for sure the weakest part of his game. However to say he's not comparable to young Slim is just straight false. Check his accomplishments. He's already done what young Slim did but he did it with no label and no Dre. His multiple plaques, billboard number ones, his monthly plays, his KZread views. Old Slim came into a game predominantly dominated by Black spitters, and he fought for a spot now Tom is doing the same thing with no label and winning.

@scouting281

3 жыл бұрын

but yet Tom has no impact on the mainstream and the culture... I feel thats the biggest reason why he hasnt hit that level.

@dominicsamf2895

3 жыл бұрын

Nah it ain't the same. Not even close. I respect him and his music, but it's totally different on so many levels

@StrifeA217

3 жыл бұрын

@@scouting281 Not that Im one of those diehard fans because Im not, But hes not having that impact on the mainstream because they are doing everything they can to keep him out of the mainstream. Hes Independent (obviously) and doesnt have the big labels at his back with teams of PR people to force there music out to the fore front rather it be on you tube Itunes, Spotify the Radio. Money talks and gets you put on trending pages because big tech says so, if you have a message that big tech dont like and you start trending they press a button and knock your views down. They arent talking about him because if they acknowledge him they will open the flood gates and I dont think they will be able to keep him out after that. But this is just my humble opinion from someone on the outside looking in. Tom has potential to stand toe to toe with Shady even if he isnt there yet. It will be interesting to watch and see what happens next.

@scouting281

3 жыл бұрын

@@StrifeA217 I think people would say the same thing about Eminem back then. Media didnt like him very much, and it was also harder to get your music out there so you had to rely on labels which made it so much harder

@Killerfang25

3 жыл бұрын

@@scouting281 well said 👌

The reason Tom is saying he is the greatest, is he is on top of the independent rapper world, while being the one that the mainstream is trying to cancel. He has more resistance than other rappers. I'd argue he is one of the best lyrically and skillfully, but his message is number 1.

@ostynandrews4882

3 жыл бұрын

literally no one is trying to cancel him.

@kalabfoster5985

3 жыл бұрын

@@ostynandrews4882 And you are entitled to your opinion, friend.

@iikaitlyn

3 жыл бұрын

@@kalabfoster5985 I dont get how people can say that. I mean hate him or not, plenty hate him and we've all seen cancel culture, so I dont get how it's that hard to comprehend that his controversial stuff makes cancel culture wanna... well cancel him.

@hbkavnish

3 жыл бұрын

I can agree that he does big numbers but selling records don't make you the greatest. Especially when there have been so many amazing rappers in the last two decades since old Eminem days

@marcusmaire8197

3 жыл бұрын

@@kalabfoster5985 It’s a fact. There is no serious attempt to cancel him. I’ve never even seen him on the news, being attacked.

Good to know NWA is corny by your logic. Or is it a certain type of political music you view as pandering

@mala6238

3 жыл бұрын

You can guess.

Man, I like what Tom does, and I've watched both of you for a while, even going back to see what YOUR first videos were like. With that being said, I genuinely appreciate a change of pace, and brutal honesty from you, and even clearing my mind a little from watching all the Tom-loving reactors. Keep doing you Ernest, the 3rd family appreciates it! 💪💪❤

@TheThirdErnest

3 жыл бұрын

I try to not be bias. Most songs I like from the artists I react to but even some artists like NF I’ve been critical of. I’m truly not hating but people see criticism as hating. I appreciate you for this comment!

@Killerfang25

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheThirdErnest Ok. Let’s get this straight. You not hating but you recently made fun some of his fans’ comments on your reaction at Tom’s “Snowflakes” and went as far as criticizing each and every opinion they have on Tom. So that’s not hate at all? Like making fun and throwing insults. No “hate” at all. 😬 Hate = intense or passionate dislike. Denoting actions motivated by intense dislike or prejudice. I mean I don’t know man. But this really looks like a big backpedal to me. Call me soft or whatever you feel to justify your reasons just ‘cuz I feel sorry for those people you made comedy of but damn man, is it so hard to be that emphatic for their passion on Tom’s music? 😐

Cuts out "pulls himself out of the mud" and "I am the one!" lyrics then references those very lines, who edits your shit bruss!? 🤣

"This house" and "boombap 101" show the pen game of Tom

Here's a little critique, I enjoy your vids, but don't like when reactors edit parts of the song out to shorten vids

I guess if you speak your mind and be real about the shit going on, it's "pandering". Even though rap and hip hop has always addressed relevant issues. If you don't agree politically then it is "pandering" now. Lol

@lordginger636

3 жыл бұрын

Yea and popping pills and bottles in the club with big titty chicks shaking their asses isn't pandering at al lol

Hes not saying he is Slim Shady, he says the things nobody else will say because the system wants to control what they say. He steps on the man with his raps and calls out things people can't say in mainstream

Stranger: bro, you dropped something Me: I don’t look down

We all can't like everything. And that is fine. Something about his voice and sound just doesn't do it for me. There are people who don't like my favorite artists. It's all good.

@EcchiHeroOda

3 жыл бұрын

I'm with you there, his voice just sounds really soft to me and it sounds more like bitching than rapping, if that makes sense?

@DR.DisInfect

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he sucks imo 🗑

@nyhx9452

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. That's exactly how I feel about Eminem. I like a few of his songs, but most just don't hit right with me. I still get the insane technical skill that he has and respect it but it just doesn't sound good to me. Not a Tom MacDonald fan either. Still a lyricist fan though.

@safewayman

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! Like I love Tom and a lot of his music but if someone else don’t, I’m totally cool with it!! Wish more of his fans would calm the fuck down if someone just respectfully dislikes the music smh XD

@enderbinding8357

3 жыл бұрын

Reeee

Please listen "boom bap 101" You don't have to react, just listen the track I respect your honest opinion, also I respect Tom's grind, and think about for a second about the "corny, gimmick... Songs" and realise that those get him to get a 1M+ views a day. He is totally independent, just him and Nova, have to give them a credit for that. Same from the beginning. You have to do something controversial to get the people talking. Than you can pour your soul out and make them all listen to that. Anyway I respect all your reactions to Tom's songs, because I think they are honest when you look from the hip hop fan perspective But again, listen to BOOM BAP 101

@MrTambourineMan.

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a really good one

"More MAINSTREAM success than Tom MacDonald". Yeah. Let's be real. If not for Dre, Em would have had to be on his independent grind just like Tom. I think Em is one of the best lyricists ever. But Em had a giant machine behind him and Tom does everything himself. And now, he's on the radio and beating out mainstream stars on the charts. And yet, he's still independent and doing everything himself. All he's saying with the Slim Shady line is that he's the one currently pressing people's buttons more than anybody else, much like Em use to do back in the day.

The worst part of his reactions to Tom is that you can tell he doesn’t agree with him politically and that definitely makes him bias.

@kryssbelladavis

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!

@mikekenders5977

3 жыл бұрын

Thers nothing wrong with speaking truth. This guy just hates him everyone is entitled to their opinion.

@kryssbelladavis

3 жыл бұрын

The political stuff helped him blow up. Charge it to the game!

@calebrampy3377

3 жыл бұрын

@@kryssbelladavis and then he proceeds to act like it’s an unbiased reaction when it couldn’t be anymore obvious 😂

@calebrampy3377

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikekenders5977 true, he just shouldn’t act like he’s being unbiased when it’s obvious he is

Just 1 tip for you. Stop trying to convince people of what your "not" trying to do! You said it already, 👏 you don't need to keep repeating yourself. If people are bashing you, or saying your a hater on Tom, well, so be it! They don't have to watch your reactions of Tom. Plain and simple! Alright, finish! Lol

@DR.DisInfect

3 жыл бұрын

This dude over thinks the fuck out of things. Like TOOL MJK 🔧said over thinking over analyzing...

@wearmykrown6042

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@mcharge10

3 жыл бұрын

I get why though - he's still trying to grow, so if he's out here critiquing and people take it as bashing, and they're discovering him for the first time, they probably won't come back.

@lanabuscham7350

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely.

"HERE WE GO" Fabrizio Romano 😆

@lilkir.404

3 жыл бұрын

Contract signed and confirmed!

@mala6238

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Tom McDonald spitting fire 🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥HOG4Life. Hit #1 on Apple Music yesterday.

Tom has said he censors his videos because he knows he has many fans who have kids that love him.

@davidtuell5558

3 жыл бұрын

This is the one we needed ☝️

@BarNation

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I just kinda wish he just wouldn't swear then cause it's annoying when a word is censored. This is coming from a big NF fan so idk 😂

@davidtuell5558

3 жыл бұрын

@@BarNation as a fellow NF fan, I kinda agree but at the same time there are people who would call him yet more corny for not cussing. At the end of the day he’s being himself, but he also puts out a version of himself that’s ok for kids. Let the man do him how he wants to do him.

Why are so many parts of the video cut? :/

I get not everyone is gonna like Tom, and especially not every song. With the Em thing though, if you know Tom even a little, he doesn't compare himself in the way you, and many others, seem to take it. Plenty of times I've seen lives of him and he doesn't want to be anyone other than himself. I get why it can seem like he is though, but I suggest maybe thinking a little deeper into it than just taking it at face value. Em did used to say things that were controversial, and Tom has certainly talked about social issues that hit a nerve in some people. I've personally never thought he was actually saying he is as good as, or better than Em, simply pointing out some comparisons between the two. I'm sure many have already mentioned it previously but I think it's a fun little fact one of his songs actually did beat Em on the charts for a few days. I doubt many other indie artists can brag about that.

@jenb8299

3 жыл бұрын

It's crazy to think that Em is the goal post at 48. Talk about legendary.

@itachitsukuyomidcuo9853

3 жыл бұрын

Don't have to look deeper when homie KEEPS literally saying he's as good or better than prime em. He's not even top 5 white rappers who are currently active.

@deliriouswhome1

3 жыл бұрын

@@itachitsukuyomidcuo9853 anyone that's listen to ol slim and Tom knows there a lot of comparison. Against the grain, political driven don't give no fucks ..and btw Eminem didn't just start rapping and everyone think he was one the goats, that shit took years.

@burntlager6124

3 жыл бұрын

That comparison is exactly how I've always perceived it and what I've noticed on other reactions. Reactions I've seen who have watched Tom for the first time have often made a comment of Tom reminding them of Em - but it's not the rapping aspect, it's been the 'controversial' aspect of it. When Em first started getting big, he was saying things that shocked some people and he got hated on. Now it's Tom who is slapping faces and getting hate. Although, there are definitely moments where you can see the influence Em had on him. Appreciate the honest reaction and perspective 🤙🏽

@jenb8299

3 жыл бұрын

@@deliriouswhome1 Lookung at it very superficially, it does seem that way. But, it's not.

What a lot of people don't realize with Eminem is that he didn't want to be Slim Shady anymore, he grew out of that for the most part. Eminem wants to show off his skill that he has and not make contraversal music and make fun of other celebrities all the time. Slim shady was mostly all shock value and ppl loved it but that's not what Marshall Mathers is about anymore, it's about complex wordplay, schemes, double and triple entendres, flow and cadence

Tom has a lot of whole families and kids that are huge fans. Tom has a video-song called my fans, it is long but worth a listen, and will help you understand his fans love... Tom drops 'Clean" versions of his songs due to those fans.

Appreciate the praise of his bars, and I'm not hating here... Everybody compares him to Eminem, why can't he? Just saying... Ps, he didn't compare himself to Eminem, but to the old slim shady, not current Em. Yet, doesn't every rapper say they are the best or compare themselves to other rappers like Em, Tupac, Biggie, etc?? So, how is what he said not hip hop?? Just offering my opinion to yours, not hating.

@grimreaper1473

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly...Hip Hop/Rap IS flexing and saying you're the greatest. Many are saying it in half their songs. We can't say that's fine but when someone says it occasionally, it's just awful...makes no sense

@fullsend4life28

3 жыл бұрын

But who else is comparing him to Em? No one, it’s literally just him making that comparison over and over in every song.

@Soulja4ChristWeAreAtWar

3 жыл бұрын

@@fullsend4life28 you're funny cuz there's lots of people doing a negative comparison to EM. But if you think that's every song then you have barely listened to anything of his music.

@fullsend4life28

3 жыл бұрын

@@Soulja4ChristWeAreAtWar been listening to him since 2018. He has compared himself multiple times. Let alone name dropping him in 80% of his last 7 songs.

@Soulja4ChristWeAreAtWar

3 жыл бұрын

@@fullsend4life28 clearly you are one of the haters he wrote this song for, guess what he can't even see you. Lmao

Smart guy, he censors because he uses the videos as ads, not to monetize the actual videos.

Everyone panders to a demographic, whether it's intentional or not....

Don't get me wrong, I really like this song, but am I the only one that See's This as a rip off of Clouds by NF? Even down to the music production?

@NIKKI-1979

3 жыл бұрын

No you are not. He ripped off the cage the caution tape the black balloons and black smile in recent songs and now this too

@degeneratedna3210

3 жыл бұрын

True story

Nothing to do with monetization. It’s for his younger audience. Love ya bro. I’m a huge Tom fan. But I respect your opinions. Keep it up

@krump743

3 жыл бұрын

Garbage, if a young fan enjoys this song with no cussing, he is gonna go get the album which will be fully loaded with the cussing. People have already commented syaing the cussing is in the songs on spotify and itunes.... nothing to do with the younger audience.

@Copperhounddog

3 жыл бұрын

@@krump743 it is though. He has explicit albums and most kids watch KZread. So sensors it

Well you might call it pandering but there are truths in all his songs. Maybe by being truthful he actually cares and wants rappers to be better

From hood to millionaire as an indy artist, ya this dude is a fucking superstar. He has a stack of billboard plaques with zero label support. Fuck yes hes a superstar.

It's called confidence...to be where he is compared to where he came from with no mainstream label is unbelievable and requires confidence.

This guy doesn't like facts Tom spits facts all day long

I watch you EXACTLY because you don't pander. You're one of the last honest reactors.

@Kelly30stm

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@jenb8299

3 жыл бұрын

💯

@thedefeatedpurpose9772

3 жыл бұрын

Him and Lost in Vegas

@josephcoon5809

3 жыл бұрын

He might not pander, but he doesn’t understand most of what he is talking about. He says Tom is pandering… either everybody panders or nobody panders. He censors out words for the families who watch with kids. He bounces between whether Tom is controversial or not, yet he disagrees with people people who understand Tom better than he does. That’s the literal definition of controversial.

@a.humanbeing8171

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephcoon5809 most of what you said makes absolutely no sense. So you don't believe Ernest knows what he's talking about. Well, in comparison to some like Knox Hill who knows every technical detail, maybe. But the real question is- why are you here on his channel if you don't like what he has to say? The internet is enormous and if all you care about is being in an echo chamber that gives you only opinions you agree with, you should keep moving down the road. I can't understand why everyone believes that the entire world HAS to know EVERYTHING they think about absolutely everything. As Bo Burnham said, can anyone just shut the fuck up? Frankly, I think Ernest WORKED very hard to find positives in Macdonald's song. If it had been my reaction, your head would have exploded. This song was literally like sandpaper on my eardrums. Oh.my.God. people seriously feed this shit to their CHILDREN? Where, at white supremacist summer camp? This song isn't racist, but the guy is practically the mascot for white supremacist groups everywhere. Right now, his voice is blasting out of speakers while hate filled white guys type their venom onto the internet. I really tried to give this guy a chance. In the beginning he was trying to find his niche and he was singing his truth. Unfortunately, he discovered his niche was singing to angry white guys and it's smack-you-in-the-face obvious. I 100% support the U.S. military using Macdonald's entire song catalog as torture- it doesn't even need to be played loudly. If the individual has the slightest musicality, he will be screaming to please make it stop within the hour. This is TERRIBLE music. I respect your right to enjoy absolutely terrible music, but not to come on someone's channel and bash them because they have a different opinion than you do of your favorite artist. Ernest is a reactor. Reactors (in theory, anyway) give their honest opinions about whatever they react to. Ernest really worked hard to give a positive reaction to this song, which strained his honesty but didn't break it. You should be thankful for the amount of effort he put into this. It certainly wasn't worth it. If you disagree with him, please don't let the door hot you where the good Lord split you. Goodbye- don't stop by any more.

Im just happy you know dude can rap rap if he wants to. Have you listened to Boop Bap Rap 101? He shows his skills right there... I truly dont care about the pandering, every artist does it.

I don’t think you don’t get it. One of the interesting things about this particular artist is that he takes responsibility for the visual element of it. So much of what people call corny only becomes so when you take it out of context and deny the fact that every set and everything he wears in a video has bearing on the substance of the video. You call it pandering but the totality of what is being said is not dependent on anyone song that happens to focus on one side of a problem. He flips subjects because he doesn’t sit on either side, he just doesn’t see the point of the extremes and has no problem shining both of them. He’s also very true to the titles he gives but if you’ve seen enough of his stuff there is no extreme he won’t touch on. I honestly don’t think he believes any of the political shit but he knows who to piss off because they will scream about him. He knows who to embrace because he knows the number of those that the media has forgotten or trashes. I think he sensors himself because his fans feel they have to and it further embeds solidarity and loyalty. He is true to his fans so he will probably end up in a rough place if things get upside down socially. For the present, his bullshit makes him bulletproof because those that listen to him feel that they are rebelling against a reality that does not get the kind of air time it should. Ironically, that puts in in the category of Alex Jones LOL. Still, if you’re really going to engage in counterculture in the age of cancel culture, you don’t have many options. He does what he does to fortify himself well and I appreciate that. I think he takes shots at the main stream because so long as he isn’t signed they are free shots. No studio worth their salt would allow it. It would damage them business wise. He will never be able to escape slim because ... culture, so he owns the target. I suppose you could call his marketing, “Bullshit” but as Ice T points out, “Don’t hate the player...” at this rate the hosts you can name will be out on their ear and trying to mimic his strategy but they won’t have the ambivalent message, or a firm grip on the people that they spent decades making fun of and all of the industry and establishment nonsense that people will not forget. The internet’s funny that way. To be clear I like that he is honest enough to enunciate. I love The math of the progression I see and the art including the hooks that are designed as psychological grabs which last longer than the song. I only started listening to wrap sense slim but I couldn’t listen to most of the culture because I took issue with much of the reality of the rap game. Eventually I stopped listening to slim because he got As monotonous and decadent. Slim allowed me to expect the ability to fill an entire track with legitimate things to listen to and three or four verses with distinct additions to the whole. Now there are several artists that are trying to artistically clean up their game but you can see who they are chasing and the hands they are shaking. You can also see that they are more into beefing and social retread, then appreciating that the social realities that made the past rappers money is under siege from counter culture and it can’t even justify its existence without saying, “that’s how it’s always been.” I’m ok with that going in the grave. Society would be better without the need to promote decadence to further degeneracy and all the ills that destroy that society.

Who in the rap business isn’t “pandering”? And if they are, they aren’t like Tom.

Hmmm. Tom is all up in the clouds. The beat is heavy on the purge horn. This is so obviously influenced and/or inspired by NF, but I haven't heard a single reactor mention it. Ernest, I thought you would for sure. Anyway, it seems like Tom was trying to replicate the "punch" of NF's last verse on Clouds - when he's walking against traffic on the highway spitting at the top of his lungs - but instead of epic, authentic passion, this felt so forced and over the top. Was it supposed to be sardonic, because everyone seems to be taking it very seriously. From someone who admittedly looks up to Tom, I'm sad to say that a potentially epic track became epically cringey.

@ninevanillaninjas1018

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing! Not only that the ladder line and the high five line right next to each other was real close to NFs line in Real "Y'all better watch it, take a look at where the clock is It's my time, this ladder of music that I climbed I took the machete, the game isn't ready Them rappers, they coming up on me I cut off the ladder, and I told 'em, "Bye-bye" What? You lookin' for a high-five? Nice try

@ninevanillaninjas1018

3 жыл бұрын

Also the cinematic purge horn ending exactly like Clouds and the imagery

This might be the last time we see this reactor with his chains.

This is exactly why I love your channel. Tough love. I’m a Tom fan but I’ve always known u are just giving your two cents and almost trying to help Tom be better in a way

Okay Earnest, tell me how this works? Slim Shady’s songs politically bashing , cool, but Tom is pandering, got it.

@ifonlyicouldstop

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah...I mean, Rage against the Machine was just "political pandering to their base" too.

@DeanS946

3 жыл бұрын

Tom's "controversial" rapping is just getting people to go "wow, he's so right" by pointing out surface level "contradictions" that often don't even fully make sense. All it does is gets people who agree with the original point to say " see? He is operating truth because what he just said IS a contradiction". But he isn't actually offering any outlook on the subjects. He is the political version of the Leo pointing at the TV meme. The fans just hear these easy talking points, agree with them, think it's smart and then proclaim he is such a during rapper who speaks the truth. When in reality, he isn't saying anything new. He is pandering.

@Killerfang25

3 жыл бұрын

@@DeanS946 LMAO. Pandering here, pandering there. Clout chasing here, clout chasing there. If y’all tired of his shi, I don’t get why y’all still over here listening? 💀 Looks like y’all just tryna get people to agree with your opinions ‘cuz you guys feel insecure about your claims. I mean, the fact that you feel insecure about it, maybe y’all can go get checked up by ophthalmologist ‘cuz the fact that y’all can’t see Tom’s purpose of those controversial songs, clearly need to get fresh perspectives.

Toms been 🔥, he got to where he is by doing what he does, not what you think he should! JS! Hell his last song “Snowflakes” (a “controversial” song) went number #1 in all genres for like a week. This country is craving someone to speak the truth like Tom does in songs like snowflakes, fake woke, whiteboy,, politically incorrect, etc., and he brings it! Plus he means/thinks what he raps about! Like he said, he’s not worried about the haters that call him corny, or whatever else they say! He don’t need to look down to hear your criticism..he’s already there! 🤷🏻‍♀️ It’s fine to have your opinion, but to say he needs to do this & that to get ahead, like dude he’s already there!! Also, as far as the cussing, this is to make sure the adds play and also that it’s open to all ages!! Tom is extremely smart and if you honestly think he does that for no reason, then you have no idea who you’re dealing with..again he didn’t get to where he’s at from listening to you, and other haters, but rather knowing exactly what’s he’s doing!! Proofs in the pudding! 🤷🏻‍♀️ If he listened to you he wouldn’t even have a career! TBH, you probably hate the political songs, cause you’re on the sides of things he talking about! 😂

About the shady line. He’s just showing his confidence. Let it go. Show me that much confidence in another rapper. He has to have it.

@Lestat13

3 жыл бұрын

I think he’s doing the same thing that others have done...hoping that by throwing smoke @ Em, they’ll be mentioned in EM’s next joint. Clout-chasing, pure & simple. He tried appealing to Em...no response. Now, he’s coming from an opposite angle. Which is it, Tom? Purely fishing for a money grab. Hopefully, Em sees that line for what it is.

@offroad5798

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lestat13 I disagree 100%. I don't get that angle from Tom, he's not gonna diss Em just hoping for clout. He doesn't need it. He's just being real

@Lestat13

3 жыл бұрын

@@offroad5798 So why suck up to Em in a previous song, then diss his status in the next? Seems like he’s playing MGK’s strategy...pathetic.

@Lestat13

3 жыл бұрын

Confidence? Unless you’re defending yourself, rap’s about lifting up other rappers you admire now. Not dissing for clicks.

@carnage3208

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lestat13 Em shits on other rappers all the time though and everyone loves it. He's not always defending himself. He uplifts others all the time, but he definitely disses others for the fuck of it

No hooks in "This House" and even better than this in my opinion.

@jeremycasper8686

3 жыл бұрын

SERIOUSLY YOU NEED TO REACT TO THIS HOUSE!!!!!!!

“He is playing chess not checkers!” 😂 I think he censors his cuss words because a lot of kids watch his videos but I could be wrong lol

@nextbigthing2917

3 жыл бұрын

Probably to monetize his videos his songs on other platforms aren’t censored.

@Thisisnotmyactualname

3 жыл бұрын

@@nextbigthing2917 yeah that makes sense

@surreal_reality3696

3 жыл бұрын

@@nextbigthing2917 Tom pays for ads to get more Algorithm views and get promoted so your point is valid

@feleciawebb4503

3 жыл бұрын

He has specifically said that in multiple interviews. It's both for the kids and then monetization.

@stephenelliott1135

3 жыл бұрын

I think you are right in so far as it's one of the reasons. He does censor on KZread for kids watching but also for monetization. He also shortens his intros on KZread so his paid adverts but harder. His intros on albums tend to be longer. #Hangovergang

You knew before hand you were getting smacked by Tom in this song, hence why it's not your normal commentary. Just move on forward. The reactor Vs Artist power struggle over claims will continue in the future no doubt.

Damn, I never knew Tom fans are this young until I read these comments

Im listening to see how you react to Tom! You just said because because because.,, why Tom writes a song! No one knows why he writes a song! He has perfect ability to all writing in his songs! And his last few songs personally to me is saying things half of America wants to say! Even if he didn’t feel it as you say .,. It made me feel good that I’m today’s crazy world someone else GETS IT! And I love hip hop.. been a fan for years but again I love Tom and his music!! Tennessee

I like you and Tom, the people mad at you for not liking everything Tom makes need to remember that music is subjective.

@Kelly30stm

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@daelaenor

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rebel_71123 Here it is. The reason why I hate Tom's community with a passion. Please do everyone a favor and stfu.

@jenb8299

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rebel_71123 So, reactors should only upload their reactions if they are praising the song? That's a little on the disingenuous side. I think most artists care about haters, sadly.

@ladypo0l743

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@ladypo0l743

3 жыл бұрын

@@daelaenor hey we aren't all like this douche. Love Tom but I don't expect everyone too. I appreciate earnests honesty and seeing it rather hear it, from his perspective. That double misses the point

I'm not a Tom fan. I'm watching this cause this song is flat fire and I KNEW you would think so. Thanks for vid

This is the first video of yours I've seen. As a huge Tom fan, this was a great video. There definitely are things to critique here and there with Tom. But he's talented as hell, and so much of his music is fire.

anybody else feels like this is really similar to NF's clouds in a way? just the background with the black and the clouds in the MV. And the choirs and that low bass stab that hits just like clouds. This song could even almost be called clouds lol. But I dont really think Tom is ripping Nf off or anything I think its just coincidence

@zeemeerminderman7491

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah sounds really similar. Not only the instrumentals though, also the delivery and cadence etc. But would anyway be hard to sound different with this type of track/style imo.

Something i have noticed on your Tom vids is whenever you see something just a little good you MAKE SURE you highlight and give him probs, almost more than you would Any other artist

@evilenvy9580

3 жыл бұрын

Check on the comments on any of his Tom videos even this one. Say one bad thing about Tom and his fan boys will be here to say how it went over his head or whatever other jab they can find to dismiss the actual criticism.

@Killerfang25

3 жыл бұрын

@@evilenvy9580 Lmao, disagree with Tom, do not like his songs, compare him to other rappers: we don’t give a fuck. Disrespect Tom on the other-hand, you lose our respect. It’s called give and take, my guy.

@evilenvy9580

3 жыл бұрын

@@Killerfang25 I mean its really not though. There's plenty of examples just in these comments of people clearly giving plenty of fucks about people who just don't like him or his music. Tbh I don't respect him as an artist to begin with so. It's not really relevant to me if his fans also don't respect me.

@Killerfang25

3 жыл бұрын

@@evilenvy9580 Nah see, we all know what our standards are when dealing with people. Idk if that’s what it’s like with a fanbase you are from or fanbase you witnessed but THE ONLY TIME some of us go neck to neck with these people is when they start TRASHING Tom. And no, we don’t troll just to win arguments. We actually give facts ‘cuz it’s all about facts. Them people on the otherhand claim their opinions as facts until they run out of spineless argument to say. And you my guy, thanks for being not a troll like. I respect your view on Tom. Just gotta ask, why you here then?

@evilenvy9580

3 жыл бұрын

@@Killerfang25 I think it's important to be open minded about shit. I give the dude a chance cuz people I know hype him up like he's old slim shady or some shit. I watch the actual video and then since I follow Ernest I watch these videos. I guess ultimately it's just not for me. I don't think he's ever said anything crazy or revolutionary. Ive found more convincing commentary on social issues and rap politics in Facebook comments. His pen game is fine and some lines are decent but it's muddled by what's imo, garbage everywhere else.

Dude, it’s not about the money! He’s address this repeatedly, he has parents that want to watch his videos around their kids, and he also has really young fans that love his videos. Put it to bed already.

Great review Ernest. Glad to see your honesty.

Why did you cut some the lines out in the video? Just curious.😅

@davidtuell5558

3 жыл бұрын

Because it’s so fuckin long 😂

@skyrise81

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidtuell5558 Nah because he knows it's directly shot at him. LMAO

No one's has the balls to speak their mind today, That's part of Tom's appeal, whether you disagree, he doesn't care, case in point.

@alexchavez9083

3 жыл бұрын

Ya but most these guys like that mainstream trash that need permission to open ther mouths . But Tom says what he wants and speaks true facts some dudes can't handle it and it's super funny Eminem use to gaybash all the time but now the way the agenda is swinging he won't anymore Eminem is wack now puppet that's all

@jenb8299

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexchavez9083 That's your opinion. Is interesting to read Tom's angry fan comments about people not liking Tom. It comes across as hypocritical and well, "snowflackish".

@Killerfang25

3 жыл бұрын

@@jenb8299 lol, “not liking” and “disrespecting” is two different things my guy. People start throwing that “hypocrite” argument when they can’t handle the heat that they themselves start. “People so Stupid” as Tom would say. 🤣

@marcusmaire8197

3 жыл бұрын

@@Killerfang25 Earnest isn’t disrespecting, his fans are just sensitive like snowflakes.

@jenb8299

3 жыл бұрын

@@Killerfang25 You either don't know or don't care the definition of hypocrisy. Either way, Ernest is not being disrespectful. Furthermore, grow a pair and learn emotional intelligence. Plenty of reactors have trashed my fav, and I don't go off the deep end like some of you of alleged "brainiacs".

As a Tom fan, I don’t like a lot of his hooks either. But his song “church” that came out this year is an exception imo. Beautiful hook. That song made me tear up. It’s about his struggle with alcoholism.

take a shot everytime he adjust his mic lmao

my 1st time here and 2 mins in your fire my guy. i see why you keep getting mentioned in my comments. keep #grinding ✊🏾

Tom needs to make more songs like this.. he needs to be ANGRY more often in songs. The energy made this song.

He not comparing himself to em ... he means that's he is alot like the OLD SLIM SHADY cuz the old slim shady had alot of hate and controversy and spoke the truth all the time... he isn't comparing himself as an artist or rapper...

@damogee1777

3 жыл бұрын

Problem there is Tom doesn’t speak the truth lol

@danielle-yd5dp

3 жыл бұрын

Umm... he always does. He always speaks the truth some people jus dont like to believe it is the truth... and that's all I got to say HOG4LIFE.... FUCK ALL THE HATERS

It's not because of demonitization , it's to be able to purchase KZread ads, of which you can't curse in

Tom MacDonald is incredibly talented. He’s not pandering you clearly don’t understand what he’s saying. You don’t have to hope he’ll be successful, he is successful. What white rapper crosses over to a lot of different people like Slim Shady? Tom MacDonald also isn’t the one who started the comparison. Nice chains.

@matthewkimani5367

3 жыл бұрын

Lisa!!!!! Could you pick up the girls from their soccer games at 3 and make them some cookies??? Thank you!!!