Hi Cod3r If you upload your videos in 1440p (even if the video is natively 1080p) you get much better video encode by youtube and viewers can see small details or text much much better. Give it a try and keep the good content coming.

Hello Phil. Could you please recommend a reliable place to buy a new M92T36?

I hope you're able to do a follow up video or community post with how this return went. AliEx used to be ok for parts, but lately they've gotten really unreliable and AliEx always siding with the seller without really having any idea on the item or seller themselves I find now.

@HardProduct

Жыл бұрын

I once returned a MXM 3.0b card to Ali and it cost me 70 something euros shipping fees I think it was in 2016. Ali actually dealt with that and the seller send me back a new gpu and the whole process took like one and a half month in total. Back in the days Ali actually cared about customers and how the platform works. Ali also payed back the shipping fees after some documents I had to send them and by "the end of the day" everything worked out. Imagine doing this process today and what is the success rate :D

I have had fake parts and they destroyed a amplifier fried tracks and killed the PSU so I wire in others in to a second bard strapped to a heat sink the temp shot up so I did a mod to the bard. To drive with less voltage did work for a bit. So I filed the top down and it was just a single transistor not a darlington.

Really appreciate your video, just bumped in to your channel n liking your vide

@4:37 - The real chip was laser-etched. The fake chip had been completely laser ablated across the surface and has silk screen or printed text.

Is there an update on this?

I recently had a problem with a Chinese seller, sending a substandard product to that advertised. The seller kept telling me to "be patient". AliExpress were no help, but fortunately I referred the matter to PayPal. After sending evidence of the different product to that advertised, PayPal refunded the full amount. I don't know if you used PayPal; but I only purchase with PayPal for any overseas products - especially from China. About a year ago I got some fake chips from China, but the seller quickly refunded and apologised. It's becoming a nightmare buying from China; especially chips. Good luck.

I bought from this seller as well, for now my chips didn't work. So, you're the 2nd person who's showing that you have the same issue.

Hi thecod3r I have a Nintendo switch lite how much will it cost to fix the charging port and 1 of the thumb sticks ,and how do I send it to you. Thanks

I spend 120€ on this shop , i guess thats wasted .. can you show us a reputable shop to buy these components? Thanks !

Great evidence

I bought some months ago a 2TB SSD drive from Ali and also found it was a fake. I got a refund after many complaints. Aliexpress did not accept my prove of being a fake though. Aliexpress sides with sellers of selling fake parts.

holy, cant wait the so what the respons will be, plz post a video of that to

What was the outcome?

So please let us know if you get your money back, i have been looking at some atmel devices

Do some diode checks on the fake, it might have no silicone in it..

@sw6188

Жыл бұрын

Silicone is not something you want in your ICs.

i've the same error.. after replaced this ic.. I figured this was the problem but how do I get a refund from my supplier? How to prove that he is the problem? Just taking pictures of how I welded it but could he answer me that I acted with too much hot air and I burned it.. unfortunately it takes luck

Anyone know of sellers that can be trusted?

Where you are paying your chips ?

They asked you for a video? THat's like asking a hot dog vendor for a hot dog :). Oh well..you've proven your point now it's up to them to make it right. If they don't just do a chargeback through your CC.

@RejectedManiac

Жыл бұрын

I could have sworn that I read somewhere that AliExpress can ban you if you do a CC charge back. Basically going against their investigation and decision. I'll have to see if I can find it in their terms again.

Its so cute and funny to see you explain so much and technically as if the person will even understand English then will have to understand what is a short, when they just want to not bother with the reply and eat the outcome. Please do a follow up with their feedback.

@MyNameIsPetch

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts throughout the whole video were "they're not going to care" - even if they did listen and understand they could claim something was swapped out or faked in the video. This is just the risk of buying direct from China

@GregM

Жыл бұрын

The problem is that AE uses a translator for all of the AE messages. You have to chat as if you are talking to a 6 year old and do not use euphemisms in messages as they do not translate well. I only buy on AE up to a $ I am willing to kiss good bye. I have had probably 6 or 7 disputes and won all of them except 1. I* buy from sellers who have 95%+ positive ratings, been in business for more than 2 years and I look at the 1 or 2 star reviews for gotchas. However in this case that would not of prevented this issue. I video the opening of every order I get from AE as well. I show the address label on the outside of the package and the order/tracking #. If an item arrives damaged I have proof. If an order is part of a consolidated shipment where multiple orders are combined I have video proof of each order that was included in the combined package.

You don't really expect Aliexpress to watch your video do you. I have found Aliexpress's 'customer service' and 'dispute resolution' processes to be totally useless. Part of the cost of doing business with Aliexpress I'm afraid.

It can cause damage even trying fakes on some boards, many of these chips with the same size/footprint but inside they are a totally different IC die inside could be anything - they grind back the plastic surface smooth to remove the original manufacturers markings and then laser etch fake markings onto them for a chip that is in demand and has a value worth selling

@RollingRoadEFI

Жыл бұрын

Plastic surface? 😂

No shxt. This must have been my problem all along!!!!

Please update us in the comments as to the outcome. Cheers.

i just checked the reviews... most people don´t even test the chips and leave 5 stars... some of them uploaded a second comment saying most of the chips are bad!! holy. I do buy a lot on aliexpress but make sure you read the BAD reviews before buying, they tell the actual truth.

Fake components have become the bane of my existence. So much wasted time and money!

What a nightmare. Did you pay using a Visa card? If so, you can do a chargeback mate and get your money back - although the seller still needs to take responsibility!

Hello if you can talk to Linus tech tips and explain your situation he might be able to help you out I watch him all the time and he likes to dig in on stuff like this. He doesn’t do messages on KZread but he does a other communications so if you get this message try him and thank you for your videos there crazy awesome

It's about the principal, not about the money.

Aliexpress also sells Fake PS4 southbridges 😅

I use aliexpress not happy seeing there customer service so bad

Jack Ma is out of Alibaba or Ali express/ now those company are on Goverments hand in China. Stop order

Yes it’s true, I tried it many times but no results, thank you for this video

i dont buy any hdmi ic chips any more from aliexpress i got 7 and all fxxxxt

way to many times fake chips from there. I ordered a roll of 50 and another chip in 100 and along with others were fake as it gets

iam not 100% why you have this issue but i ordered many different ICs from this vendor like TDP158, M32, P13 and so on and those all worked everytime flawlessly. no problem at all. maybe you just got a bad batch?

@norfolkngood8960

Жыл бұрын

Or the seller got burnt buying them in

@mrcmjeffs0128

Жыл бұрын

Ya full of shxt these are fake and u still try to say this don't con a Conner

@HedgeyOfficial

11 ай бұрын

@@norfolkngood8960True, he did say he’s bought from that seller before so could well be that whoever they got them from has supplied them dodgy chips but should just ask for them back and send different batch instead of arguing it.

Ground off and stamped with fake numbers.... I never buy from aliexpress

Hello, Agree with you ,not genuine ic ,but high copy and working well ,to be fair keep in your mind there is some kind of ic chips need I2c programming before installation to work properly. I think your ic chip one of them. Thank you.

Hi Phil, I would mention something, but please don't take it badly. If it hurts your refund process you can delete it. I often have the problem that the IC's from China do not work, because they cannot be soldered on properly. Whether due to incorrect storage or other reasons, a grey deposit forms on the contacts, like corrosion. On the video it was not really visible because of the foil, but as if I had seen the same problem on the IC. I always check before soldering and if I see this grey thing on the contacts I tin the contacts separately. Sometimes it's really hard to apply the solder, it's so bad.

@fatboy7276

Жыл бұрын

hello aliexpress rep

@azizatia2598

Жыл бұрын

Agree with ,to be tanned before installation

You just lost a future customer AliExpress will be taking my business to temu ...🤔

Thanks brother for letting us know

Let us know if they work it out.

why buy from aliexpress in the first place lol , i only go there if i want bootleg stuff

AliExpress is guilty as charged. I hope they do the honorable thing and refund your money.

A lesson to be learned here, don't buy cheap IC's from China. Use a local company and pay more and in the end it will cost less money and headache in dealing with those Chynese idiots out there trying to scam you. If a device is worth fixing it might just cost a little more.

I have an idea: scrape/sand away at (or etch away) the surface of both a blown but genuine M92T36 and this fake M92T36 until you reach the integrated circuit portion of the chip. I wanna know if there is even anything inside it, and if there *is* anything, how different the genuine chip is from a fake one. I'd suggest doing it somewhere well ventilated if you decide to try it, but it'd be nice to know what the differences are.

@B9NE

Жыл бұрын

It's better to apply solder to "fake chip" first before setting chip. Sometimes there's a film where it's difficult to apply solder so that should be dealt with first. Electronic repair school had the same issue with a power controller IC chip for a laptop.

@mechanoid5739

Жыл бұрын

That's even if there is actually a die inside the package!

@modorangeorge4991

Жыл бұрын

@@mechanoid5739 it can be checked with a banal multimeter on diode mode testing various pins and ground.

Does not speak well for AliExpress, does it?

@norfolkngood8960

Жыл бұрын

Did anyone think they had a decent rep to start with? 😂

I lost $300 on a big order of cd3215 and cd3217 ICs, from the same seller, hes a theif and calls you a liar and to drop the dispute via chat

I hate aliexpress customer service they are the complete opposite of eBay!!! All they do is protect the seller Ive had items arrive damaged and they haven’t helped, I’ve had items not arrive and all they do is say wait 12 days so now I give them the chance if they don’t I open a PayPal case and normally always win then!!! And aliexpress do not answer the case most of the time either so I would go down that line

AliExpress is loosing its grip on realty and honesty , avoid at all cost.

You can ALWAYS get a refund Open a Customer Support on your PC and they will handle it especially if you are using an old account ,and have never tried "scamming" Aliexpress sellers before good luk

I remember having the same issue with buying 2sc2166 and 2sc1969 from fake IC..and had a problem getting my money back

Most china companies will not accept youtbue videos, you have to upload them to Bilibili or directly send them

Shenzhen Yi Xin IC chips store said the same thing..." no proof it doesn't work" and "return fake product to China". I rejected that outcome and let Ali step in. Got my money back (minus shipping)

@andrewbaluk1663

Жыл бұрын

when you send it back they give you a fake return address and then claim you never sent it back to them. they have every step of the process covered to stiff you.

@cameradoctor205

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewbaluk1663 Yep, been caught by that one ..........

Buying stuff on the "Black Market" is always risky.

@norfolkngood8960

Жыл бұрын

All the more reason for right to repair so we can buy legit spares at a decent price

Aliexpress is hit and miss, but most times ive had issues with things I bought, waiting times just insane and then the final straw was the weird way the prices are shown.. something is £10, no wait, its 15, final checkout page its 20..

You cut the video, they dont like cut videos for obvious reasons. You might be ok though. I've purchased from Aliexpress for years and they have always decided in my favour.

Charlie aways scamming

Whats the name of the seller/shop?

@jeanpuetz4890

Жыл бұрын

Did you watch the video?

I worry about buying from there sometimes

Can you do an update on this, Phil?

And what Aliexpress does not realize, is that I (and many others) may have been about to order from there, but no longer will. For the sake for £50 they will happily lose £thousands in business.

@ObsoleteMule

Жыл бұрын

Nope I will never use them now

Well if anything this video shows a seller to avoid

Name and shame

Aliexpress - lol I would never rely on them for quality products of any type

Had the same problem with that seller. I got refunded by Aliexpress though.

Phil knows how to replace a chip, so to give it 3 chances, then have to do a video is crazy mad, but when you have a point and know your right what a G.

Scammers!

I hope you don't send this video with edits and cuts...Wouldn't it need to be one single long video with you not moving the device out of the frame not even once? Would need no cuts, & needs to stay in frame the whole time, or they can say you switched the switch

Mate, come on surely you knew they were fake.

I dont know much about chips but the second row of numbers dont match up not sure if that matters and also maybe the new chips aint laser etched in the right orientation,which wouldnt suprise me, but i trust cod3r and his work so if he says there fake then there fake

Typical Charlie’s making fakes of something

I tried for months to get a refund on chips that never came. They would not refund . I used PayPal so I was able to get a refund. They charge a lot for shipping, they don't ship right away, they will not help to find the packages, they don't even tell you who the shipper is so that if you were inclined to trace the package, you can't . I am done with AliExpress!!

I experienced kind of simmilar problem with item not recieved and the tracking number prooved the item reached my country, but never recieved by myself at all. Aliexpress asked me to proof, but honestly, how can you proof you didnt recieved anything? They just closed the case as item delivered and no reason to claim refund. Item reched my contry and they dont care anymore... It was item bit more than a pound, but anyway, they should not act like robbers. I dont trust them anymore and i only buy there when i have no other option, even if its cheaper there...

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Same seller sold me fake DAP049 chips....😂

Wonder if the chip could be fake but a working fake and they just printed the orientation wrong. Might try comparing diode readings to see if the orientation is marked wrong.

Christ. All that effort to fake it. And for forty quid. I wonder if what some are saying about you have to tin them first or whatever is the case though. Really doesn't seem the effort to fake. Unless they were broken from the factory?

@justNotSure

Жыл бұрын

A lot of the Casio F91W watches that are on sale are counterfeit. It's only £11 from Argos and some places sell genuine ones for as little as £8 or £9 but you can get fakes for £5. Just about anything in China is pretty much worth faking.

@bufordmaddogtannen

Жыл бұрын

The salary of a highly skilled technician that can visuslly identify defects on motherboards so that these can be reworked so that they can leave the factory as working boards is about 150 USD per month. So everything is worth faking, especially when sending the fakes back costs more than what you paid.

Aliexpress won't even watch the video. I've had this many many many timesbefore.. But if you have to upload "extra evidence" they going to rule in favour of the seller. Again they don't read nor do they watch it. In some occasions they rule that you have to send it back, but you'll have to pay for it and most of the time this will be triple the cost of the items or 10 times or even more to send it back. This one time I bought something for 1.5k (1500 USD) and it wasn't as described, they didn't give me any thing, no refund nothing. I had to send it back. I'd checked with a shipping company and it wasn't allowed to send overseas from my country. I had to book a seafright a 20 ft container and it would cost 5 to 10000 USD to send it back.. LOL they didn't care, and they don't care. I told them that it would cost 10k and they still said "you have to return the items" , it was like "talking" to a wall...(Because after your refund starts they don't read/watch anything you update or upload).

@CR7hg

Жыл бұрын

You had to be crazy to spend 1.5k there and not pay with paypal or credit card lol

@mal6232

Жыл бұрын

@@CR7hg Paypal wont help because Aliexpress is not the seller so your sales contract is with the seller, not Aliexpress. Good luck trying to speak with the seller!

@OneTheAndOnlyOne

Жыл бұрын

@@CR7hg It all ended good. I sold the items for the exact same price I'd paid for it. Luckely some one wanted the exact items I got. I was upfront and told what I paid etc. It still was cheap and worth the money, but it was useless to me. It's also something like 4 years back. And I'm not planning to do such large orders from Aliexpress anymore.(I learned my lesson :P ) I don't have a creditcard, it's not commen in my country to have a creditcard. I don't know anyone with a creditcard.. Paypal isn't something I use or ever used before.

It's too bad that there are fakes even in packages. I was convinced that the exposed product was a second-hand product.　　I have doubts about requesting videos, I don't think even amateurs can understand.

Great idea bro. We all need to know to stay away from this seller.

Would the console turn on without the chip even present? If these chips are fake, then the consoles basically _are_ turning on without that chip present. If the console is not supposed to do that, then there must be a middle ground where the chips are not actually fake but rather poorly manufactured in terms of compatibility. I would suggest identifying a pin that should be ground, then probe the other pins with a multimeter, and then compare the numbers with those of a known working chip. There's still room for doubt.

I hope you supplied them the uncut version haha

You ever have good experience with that seller? Right now I have a basket filled of stuff from them but I ain't buying if they selling counterfeits.

please put the name of the seller on ali so we dont buy from them thanks

@Jenkem254

Жыл бұрын

I ordered the exact same chip from the exact same seller 😢

Yes please I wish that seller to stop selling his fake chip is not just this chip I bought multiple graphics card chips and they don’t work I had him on my blacklisted seller that’s why he sell them cheap because is fake chips

The same problem with the SOUTHBRIDGE 42GG, every time sell bad or fake IC. Aliexpress no refund and money goes in trash😡

Now I want to know the outcome of this interesting situation please keep us updated.. 😮

Would never buy anything from guy named Ali. Shifty eyed bazaar seller.

Case proven m'lud!! The seller will probably have bought stacks of these, so they now have a RMA issue too!!

i’ve gotten a lot of fake chips on aliexpress also

Need a M92 chip tester so you can pop it in and test it before installing on board.

The same happened to me, I ordered 4 pieces PS4 HDMI Encoder MN864729 and none of them worked they all are fake Be aware of aliexpress components

I've bought from them before (Shenzhen H M), small batches of M92, PI3 and I personally can say I have yet to encounter a fake chip, I've been lucky it seems.

@JamesWSleight

Жыл бұрын

I think the pads on the new chips could be to blame. I suspect a couple of them rejected solder despite looking like they were properly soldered. My doubt is in the fact that the console still turns on despite supposedly not having the m92 chip, considering that having fake chips on would be the equivalent of not having the chip at all. It would be great to see a video should how the console would behave without the chip on the board.

@alexp-h

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesWSleight I second that, I do have to pre-tin the pads of the chips otherwise they don't merge with the board, it's like they're oxidized from factory.

Looking forward to see what aliex says considering this video evidence

I hope they refund you

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Hmm I've had some PI3USB chips from them and now one of my consoles only docks in one direction, very strange!