Just ordered the wired version, went to order the official Nintendo snes controller and by the time all of their bogus shipping and fees were added, this was the exact same price and seemed to have way more uses. This review brings me confidence in my choice, can’t wait for it to arrive!

I love this controller, it's so universal honestly. The D-pad is so worth the buy to be honest.

@BryanX64

2 жыл бұрын

The d pad on it is so stiff. Not a big fan

I love these teardowns! Something I've always been interested in but too afraid to do myself lol great job, as always

This is my absolute favorite controller of all time.

You had to say this 6:28 I can’t stop seeing it now

@friedpicklez08

3 жыл бұрын

I KNOW!!! 😫

@Ryuk1138

5 ай бұрын

Who cares?

@MrObear

2 ай бұрын

Weird

Better than those overpriced nintendo switch NES controllers

@robertwallen1582

5 жыл бұрын

Way better

@alinepiroutek8932

5 жыл бұрын

Let's forget about those stupid controllers. They are only for collectors.

@Grainsauce

5 жыл бұрын

This is better but with the NES controllers you are getting 2 controllers vs 1 for about the same price.

@alinepiroutek8932

5 жыл бұрын

@@Grainsauce The NES Online controllers are for Switch only. 8bitdo are for a lot of different devices.

@Chenda97

5 жыл бұрын

@@Grainsauce BUT the nes controllers can only be used with the nes games

Hitting those start/select buttons still isn't as bad as hitting that minus button on the joy con.

@JackMcSomeone

5 жыл бұрын

I hate the minus button with a passion

@matheusps92

5 жыл бұрын

The "options" on the Dualshock 4 is way worse...

@AndersonOrtiz

5 жыл бұрын

The minus button when you have grips is the worst.

@JackMcSomeone

5 жыл бұрын

@@matheusps92 lol nope

@mhdobbs2784

5 жыл бұрын

Stop giving me joy-con ptsd...

Important note not mentioned in the video, there is no NFC reader in the controller. Android and PC don't use those, so there's no issue, but if you use this on your Switch, it will take a moment for it to realize that before it starts working properly. Source: I own one and it takes the Switch a quick minute to pop up a message about an NFC issue. Totally recommend the controller, though. Played a bunch of Fortnite and Splatoon with it and it's my controller of choice for PC games.

@vincells

5 жыл бұрын

Android does use NFC however very rarely and left unused often.

@Fendera1

5 жыл бұрын

I mean you still can use the joy con for nfc amiibo stuff.

@JuksMaluks

5 жыл бұрын

I only get the NFC issue on Splatoon and it's very annoying as it lags quite a bit during some seconds, luckily it doesn't happen while playing, only on the "menu". Would be awesome if they could fix this

@slyceth

5 жыл бұрын

No, controllers are gay

@AnimatedCarl

5 жыл бұрын

@@JuksMaluks I don't think there is a fix for it, really. Either Nintendo would have to release a patch to Splatoon 2 to not check for the NFC reader or 8BitDo would have to add one to future controllers. I mean, I guess Nintendo's patch is the easiest way, but I don't see them releasing an update to aid a competitor's controller. Unless they start officially supporting 8BitDo

Love your no BS style of making videos. Thanks for helping me decide on a new controller.

I've been happy with all my 8bitdo controllers. Can't wait for the Pro+ version with the grips.

Never in my life have I wanted anything like I want this controller, I mostly play side scrollers and classic games so this would be a godsend for me.

@esmooth919

4 жыл бұрын

On top of that, this controller is actually quite comfortable for 3D games, as well as smash... But I'm probably biased because I grew up on PlayStation, and not the Xbox. Lol

@friedpicklez08

3 жыл бұрын

@@esmooth919 I’m growing up with Xbox and Nintendo, I’ll probably buy a PS4 someday

Bought this model of the SN30 pro about a year ago, one of my favorite controllers full stop.

Lol the board looks like a batman weapon

@bayupran

4 жыл бұрын

batarang?

@MrsKwan-fz6mf

4 жыл бұрын

Board?

@ArrowLooper

3 жыл бұрын

People need to Stop with everything looking like batman.

@macafromthewired

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArrowLooper cry

@spawnwave Love the tech wave videos, one of my favorite things you do. One small suggestion to make them better. Filming over your wood table makes it hard to see all the parts exc. This could be remedied with a mat maybe made of silicone or something. The spawnwave purple would be a good color as not many manufacturers use it on game hardware and would contrast well.

I bought one of these this year and I love it. I use it on break at work with my tablet to play retro games.

I got this last year and man it is an absolute wonder of a controller. Maybe it is because I am a huge fan of SNES but its really good to be able to play practically anything. I tend to use the Xbox One controller but always hated the D-pad cause it feels all squished in like you can accidentally press other directions, small travel input. Also I liked where the sticks are. Only down side is no analog triggers but not many games need em. Maybe the plus can add analog triggers and a grip. One year later and still working good. Best 50 bucks spent.

Thanks spawn wave for the stellar daily content I'll definitely be buying this for my retro gaming needs on PC.

I’m glad I found your channel, it’s great! Very helpful for purchasing advice and this controller looks like it would work better for fighting games on PC than my Xbox One controller which cramps my hands because I use the D-Pad for them.

I just stumbled upon your channel and digging your videos! Sub earned!

Got this controller awhile ago.... It really is a great controller, especially if you want a nostalgic one like this. My only gripe is that I am not used to the control sticks being that close together, but that is more of a personal issue rather than a manufacturer one :)

Now that's a nice design! Thank you for the review.

I have three different 8bitdo controllers and they are all amazing. Well built, feel great in the hand and look awesome. Recommend 100%.

got one of these about 1 month back. It's my favorite controller as well. Even beating out the xbox one controller.

Good, im getting this for my Christmas retro pi, so good to hear i choose this over the pro2. I chose this one because of the shoulder button layout mainly, over/under instead of beside.

Got this after seeing it on WulffDen a while back. Great for 2D platformers! Mine didn't have all that tape on it though. Might've been a return. No worries, only get notified on your vids, lol. Edit: I got the Gameboy inspired one.

@luisfernando55

4 жыл бұрын

How about the quality of the materials? It's working without problems since you got it ? Thanks

I have been wanting to get this controller for a long time now. Maybe it can be a little Christmas present for myself haha.

This is such an awesome controller. I have two of them and also bought receivers to use with my SNES/NES Classic as well as my Retron 5.

@vze21gwa

5 жыл бұрын

How does it work with SNES Classic?

I ordered the SF30 pro today and I am so excited 😄 nostalgia pure for me ❤️

6:30 gave me anxiety

@Ryuk1138

5 ай бұрын

Why?

Loving the look and aesthetics of this controller. Great review. Yoh hsve me sold on either this or the Sn-30 pro plus 😁 excited to otder it

I got this controller to take on a trip because of it's small profile. I tried it out and my only complaints are that the travel from the right stick to the buttons seems really far and the controller does start to feel a little cramped in my hand pretty quickly. Other than that is is a really cool controller. Feels and looks really high quality.

For the Pi-havers: I'd suggest using one of the Pokken Tournament controllers if you don't mind wires and don't have any PS1 stuff on the menu. Quite possibly the best D-pad for the money with that one coming in at about $15. Another fantastic option if you already have it, though it's just about the same price as this if you don't: the Wii-U pro controller. Shoryukenable D-pad, great sticks, absurd battery life, and my only gripe with it is the glossy plastic on the face, which has me gaming with a bottle of Windex nearby.

I have one of these it feels great even the triggers

@onetwo6039

5 жыл бұрын

How is the D-Pad? I have the previous model with no sticks and the D-Pad is way overly sensitive.

@raiz2834

5 жыл бұрын

One Two he said it was much stiffer

@kurtg5405

3 жыл бұрын

Can confirm this is great for retro side scroll switch games and (S)NES mini/online.

@kazei3098

3 жыл бұрын

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The start and select buttons are off centre on an actual SNES pad too, you just notice it more on this due to the central positioned analogues.

I love mine. Zero problems. Syncs to everything I need. It managed to ship from Amazon without a charging cord and 8Bitdo CS sent me one the next day.

How does the stiffness of the joysticks compare to the DS4? I find that the DS4's joysticks are a little too stiff. I end up having joint pain after a long play session.

Next 8bitDo products I want: replacement rubber domes for both snes and genesis.

Love this controller. The D-pad is top notch. Already using it for 2 months.

Super excited for mine that I ordered. It comes tomorrow! SNES has always been my favorite generation and the controller was always my fav too. I plan on using this as my primary controller so we will see how it goes! Thanks for tearing it down too! I'm really impressed with the engineering of this controller. I'm sure there was a reason for the battery being soldered, but I don't think for most that is going to be a deal breaker. If my OCD had to guess on the offset of the start/select, it would be that its perfectly centered between the gray circle of the action buttons and the indented circle of the dpad *shrug*

@loner1520

4 жыл бұрын

Can you give me an update on the controller. Thinking about buying but want to see if it still works after sometime.

This is a great controller, but often don't come out of the box with the most recent firmware, so if you buy one update it for best compatibility!

I got the controller about a month ago and have barley touched my pro controller since... I was a little concerned the lack of grips would make it uncomfortable to use after a while but I've found it no issue at all, not to mention due to it's small size I can put it in my Skull & Co maxcarry case and take it with me. I highly recommend this controller

I have two copies of the famicom version (with the colored buttons); and I play Bug Fables primarily using this. I use select everywhere, Everytime to "hear" the conversations; so I don't really get your problems with start and select. I think it is a huge step up from the joycon. Though you are right about the sticks; as even a cheap, alternative 20 bucks controller has a better grip. Still, this is my favorite controller ever (even without the prolongs).

Just a note, he is reviewing the 2017 model. The 2018 model has some design, visual and hardware changes.

GDay and thanks for your great review and tear down. I really like the look of these controllers but I have big hands, co maybe not for long gaming sessions. I think I’ll still grab one after Christmas, but I agree that a more premium version that is maybe a little larger would sell like hot cakes.. Cheers

As a person who personally owns one of these, it's almost like the Swiss army knife of controllers. It really does work with just about anything.

My main issue with it is that when when you use multiple wireless controllers at once on the switch, the sn30 has crazy input problems which makes it pretty much unusable.

I had three of these and noticed that pressing right on the right analogue wouldn't go all the way. When calibrating it would also crash my switch. Very strange. In fps games it was very noticeable. I ended up going with the pro controller.

Reason behind start/select placement: being true to the original SNES controller 😏👍

Find it interesting that the SN30 pro advertised in their 2018 catalog (together with the SN30 Pro G Classic edition) went for a style that looks less like a SNES controller. The start/select buttons are horizontal, font is more generic, and the buttons are all lavender. I'm wondering if the internals are slightly different as well. I just picked up the 2018 model. Feels and performs great... just wished it looked more like a SNES controller like the one in the video

@BrySkye

5 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't be the first time. 8bitdo kind of fly close to the sun in how accurately they recreate the original Nintendo design and look, and probably too close in those earlier cases. The original SN and SF30 controllers were visually identical to the original SNES controllers, even down to the font style used to write 8bitdo gamepad instead of Super Nintendo. With Nintendo recently renewing those copyrights with the Mini Classic consoles, these were rapidly discontinued and if you look at the 8Bitdo site, they don't show any images of the original none-pro controllers which were very accurate replicas. That's probably not a coincidence.

Got this today and it is awesome. 😁

Does this work with the Analogue Super NT if I already have an 8-bitdo SNES receiver from an SF30?

Are the triggers digital like those of the Nintendo Switch Pro Controller or analog like the SN30 Pro + ones? (I'm looking for digital ones.)

I love the NS30 Pro. I've always got one (well 3) in my bag at all time.

I have had one of these for a little while, and I must say it is a nice piece of kit. But for my tastes and comfort, I would have appreciated a little more space between the buttons and the analog sticks (I have large hands) and the plastic used for the outer shell seems to be of cheap quality... I can't exactly say why, but it just seems like the material is a little brittle compared to an original Nintendo controller... Overall it's a fine value for the money, i love how it bridges the gap between retro and modern.

I'm confused can any controller that's wireless through Bluetooth work on the switch light as it does on the regular switch the only exception would be that if they were other companies controllers like PlayStation for three or Xbox you would need the adapter that only works on the regular switch

I like that the board looks like a Batarang or Batman logo.

I use this to emulate NES and SNES games on my PC and Shield. It's great.

I love using this to play OpenEmu on my Mac & so should you.

Just to give you the heads up Spawn... mine never had tape on it. Also got it on Amazon. Great controller. I use it for my cell phone.. emulated games.

That tape just tells me that was a return. Mine from Amazon didn't have that.

Did they put out an update to fix the input lag on Switch? I bought one of these back in May or June, and I could barely play precision platformers.

Can you do teardowns of classic consoles? Whatever you can get. This stuff is interesting. I like taking shit apart and reassembling.

I bought two of them back in August and only one still works. The rubber on the main stick has worn completely off. Also, yes, I've tried contacting 8bitdo three times to no avail. Luckily, the main stick has a dip in the middle of the stick, so your thumb will still have a tougher time slipping, but it's shiny plastic, so not perfect.

I'm still waiting for the one with the handles. The one 8BitDo showed at E3 🤔 I really hope Nintendo will allow them to build in the same features that the SN30 Pro has.

I love this controller it's great ice been using it for the new ghost and goblins and it works very well for me, it was worth the money

Hey spawnwave you said that the D-pad is like the one from snes, but I don't have a snes controller so I don't know how it would feel...would you recommend the controller with grip for smash bros ultimate?? I know I'm probably the only one who needs a good D-pad for switch ^^

anyone know if there's a different d-pad 'feel' between this one and the Gameboy style one? if there is which one has the best d-pad ?

I still rock my NES30 Pro, love this thing. Will get the SN30 Pro when I'm over this one.

I love using my SN30 PRO controller for The Messenger.

10:35 It's also worth noting that the SN30 Pro is older than the N30 Pro 2 (the Pro 2 is quite new, and the N30 Pro was the version that came out before/around the same time as the SN30 Pro). For reference, I bought my original SN30 Pro (the one you're reviewing) in March 2018 and I bought the newer one (GameBoy color palette, but it's got a few improvements) last month. I also bought the newer N30 (not Pro) that's NES Mini exclusive when Nintendo rereleased it a few months ago.

Do these use some sort of security bits that are uncommon? My set doesn’t have anything capable of removing the screws.

im reluctant about the quality of them rubber pad in those things. i have xbox 360 controller and aside from the minor d-pad adjustment, its has never been a problem to use with any game even up to now, and they have become cheap nowadays especially the wired ones.

just got 2 SN30 8bitdo wireless controllers as a gift for my NES and SNES Classics they work amazing. They connect better than the joycons for switch when docked

worth waiting for pro plus version with actual hand grips which supposedly comes out this summer?

My fave game pad. Switches seamlessly between my Switch, PC and android with zero issues.

Do you think that battery can be replaced easily? I mean, can that battery model be found at a RadioShack or other electronic store?

I love mine, use it to play all my 2D side scrollers. But I got the famicon colorway. Looked better to me as opposed to all that purple

@kitsunekid16

5 жыл бұрын

Same. I like the colours on the sfc

@SGTRandleOneOne

5 жыл бұрын

Same.

@killerkevin27

5 жыл бұрын

I think the concave Y and X buttons feel better especially with NES/SNES Mario games.

Would you happen to know that is the exact details of the flex cable used for the analog sticks? I accidentally ripped the silver pins on my unit and it doesn't work anymore. I'm not knowledgeable about flex cables so i have no idea what i should order. Thank you.

I've had two of these controllers and had to return both due to quality issues. The first one I bought right around the controller's release- sometime late last year. Then I plugged it in to charge one night, it froze while charging, resetting didn't work and the controller could no longer be recognized by anything (including the PC, so updating or pushing firmware wouldn't even work). It froze, randomly, while charging and it was completely inoperable. I sent it back and got my money back. Months later, like around the middle of this year, I heard through the grape vine that the "freezing while charging" bug that rendered my last controller useless was fixed, so I bought another. This one would randomly disconnect while I was playing (Switch, Steam, didn't matter. It disconnected, even with a full battery, while playing on both), it would randomly lag but wouldn't disconnect (sometimes a button press wouldn't happen and the controller would stop responding entirely for 2-3 seconds. This only happened while connected to the Switch), and sometimes just wouldn't connect to my devices despite having worked with those devices mere minutes before (example: I'd sit down to play a game, my wife would call me to do something, so I'd put the Switch back in sleep mode and turn off the TV. Come back 10 minutes later, the controller just will not connect to the console for 20-30 minutes at a time before it randomly begins working again). Like, I loved this controller, hence my willingness to give a second of it a shot. But their quality control was a goddamn crapshoot: You either struck gold, or you got shit. Apparently their newer ones are better, but I shelled out for another Pro Controller for my Switch that I've been using with Steam and I just can't be bothered to keep trying these out until I find one that doesn't have significant problems.

Other than the weird off center Select / Start positioning this controller is perfect. Surprised by the quality, well worth it.

@spawn wave Do you have the sn30 pro G the newest version, I was wondering if it's the same inside ?

I never noticed the start/select buttons being miss aligned and now my OCD is triggered forever. Thanks spawnwave

It's a good thing you like it since i'm interested in that controller.

I have the NES30 Pro, which is different than the black one you have there, aesthetically anyway. Performance wise, I'm happy with it. I use it only for emulation on PC because I haven't bought a new home console since the PS2 15 years ago, but it can handle pretty much anything I threw at it without issues. However, no matter how many videos and photos I watched about this thing before committing to a purchase, it was a lot smaller than I thought it would be when it finally was in my hands (that's what she said). Also, the manual says that the battery lasts around 20 hours with a single 3-4 hours charge. I honestly was very skeptical about it, but then I tried it and Christ Almighty, it indeed works for roughly that long, which means that cables are a thing of the past and makes Nintendo, Sony and whoever else made a mini console look like a bunch of amateurs, given that their usb controllers are nice, but have very short cables and don't have wireless support. Other than that, though, it's a very great product for its relatively cheap price. I think I paid €43 for mine and whoever is on the fence about buying one of these like I initially was, should just go for it because it will be money well spent.

Is there any particular reason why you don't mention the large amount of input lag when using it alongside other controllers such as the official Pro pad? It's game breaking if you have friends that you play with.

I love mine so much. Got the gameboy edition.

This might be my portable option with my limited steam deck bag space. The handles on my DS4 only let me fit one control plus essential accesories, and I can pack the heck out of a bag lol

I love mine. I’ve had it almost a year. The rubber did need glueing back on the left thumb stick though after coming loose from repeated use.

Outstanding tech wave video Jon(SW). If you are looking at an 8bitdo Controller guys or looking for a Controller with the best D-Pad for Fighting Games or Platformers and Nindie Titles too play on the Switch then this is the Controller too get for sure. I would definitely love too see 8bitdo doing a 70-80 bucks Controller I think that could be dope.

How do you charge this thing properly? Some people report that their controller brick when charge through wall adapter. Leave the only option to charge via computer usb port. I don't want to boot up PC every time I want to charge the controller, plus rate charging is quite slow.

6:34 thanks, now i cant unseen that hahaha

i just ordered the new version with hall effect sticks !! ;D its arriving in 10 to 20 days

I have two 8bitdo controllers. - probably older ones... I have to say the older packaging looked a bit more stylish on the inside than this newer version... I have: The FC30 Pro - It'ss a bit small, but I just really like the way i looks (Red and gold with a dark grey band and blue lighting... Yeah, it's just... Glorious), and it still feels mostly OK... the other is the SFC30 - And well, what can I say? It's a pretty much flawless reproduction of a Super Famicom or PAL snes controller (feels absolutely perfect compared to the real thing or the Nintendo produced replicas that the classic came with), but it's wireless. Nothing to complain about, though obviously it lacks any analogue controls... The one you're reviewing looks pretty good too though. Hmmh. I wonder if the SNES adapter for 8bitdo controllers has any way of reading analogue stick data? I assume not, and even if it did you'd have to write your own game for that to make sense, but still... eh. -shrug-

does the controller have loud abxy buttons? i am trying to find a good quiet controller so i can play in public without the clickyness of the buttons being annoying

my left and right analog clicks arent registering. any input on this would be nice. L3 and R3

the left and right rumble motors aren't really so much about stereo rumble, rather each is weighted differently. you get harder rumbles with the big weight and lighter rumbles with the small weight. mixing the two up will give you different sensations and whatnot.

I bought one of these off your recommendation as well as some others. However the buttons are mapped incorrectly (y=start, etc.), also the d-pad and left joystick don't seem to work. I downloaded the firmware update from their site. Do you know what I can do to fix this? Do you recommend trying again and just replacing it?

@zombiesrppl2589

5 жыл бұрын

Also... Is it possible that some games are not compatible with this specific controller?

I have the GameCube style N30 Pro2 and it's the best controller I've ever used. And it works with my Switch, phone and laptop!

Whats the difference between the ones with diagonal start/select buttons and the ones that have horizontal buttons?

so why do you think they offset the start/select buttons? you never addressed this