LIKE if you think Ma Long is the GOAT 🐐 or comment if you think differently 🏓

@taureanlloyd925

3 жыл бұрын

Ma Long is the best but I would like to see him versus Wang Hao in his prime

@taureanlloyd925

3 жыл бұрын

So basically he is great at everything

@oliverisla8221

3 жыл бұрын

Now you have to review his blade 😁

@srcull

3 жыл бұрын

He is but I'd rather watch Waldner

@taureanlloyd925

3 жыл бұрын

@@srcull for the entertainment he is much better

Playing against Ma Long must be terrifying. If you float him an easy one, he's going to slap it back. If you try to play aggressively, he will slap it back harder. The moral of the story is shit's getting slapped

@leostamp9190

3 жыл бұрын

Love it!! What an honest comment!!!

@chigornunnzorputachi8462

3 жыл бұрын

This got me laughing very hilarious 😂 😂

@derickdelrio9275

2 жыл бұрын

hahahahaha....obviously

@teddanville6996

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a Fan Zhendong fanboy and i've watched and rewatched countless Ma Long vs Fan Zhendong matches through out the years, even when Ma Long was in a low state of his career a couple of years ago, and this is the matrix that Ma Long put out, which give Fan Zhendong so much difficulty even when Ma Long has passed his prime, and Fan is still rising. -Ma Long is unbeatable in forehand. Giving Ma Long the oppotunity to play forehand means you gave away your point. -Ma Long won 60% of the backhand rallies against Fan, who is suppose to be one of the most dominant backhand player in the world. -The only key to unlock this matrix is to play a fast backhand down the line. This is extremely risky, as you're more likely to fail since the table is shorter down the line. If your backhand down the line is not fast enough, Ma Long is going to forehand it back, and again, you give Ma Long the forehand, you lose. Most of the thing i've said can be explain by simply saying: Ma Long is just better than Fan Zhendong, i mean, he beat Fan Zhendong in both forehand and backhand. But this is actually quite a scary thing to say, cuz Ma Long is suppose to be close to the end of his career, he's suppose to be over his prime, but being the tt god that he is, he still play really well.

@x0cx102

2 жыл бұрын

@@teddanville6996 well said. I do think with ma long age though in the last year fzd's and some of the other younger players harimoto/lyj have found some ways to counter ma long but these points are very true.

Ma Long: *breathes* Dan: THAT'S WORLD-CLASS!!

@KEmil-zl7xp

3 жыл бұрын

well I'm sure his breathing technique is world class as well :D

@fawwazkhan7935

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@benthekeeshond545

3 жыл бұрын

@@KEmil-zl7xp I think the Dragon breathes fire. Perhaps that is why he is so good for such a long time.

@TableTennisDaily

3 жыл бұрын

Haha that cracked me up!

@KEmil-zl7xp

3 жыл бұрын

@@ayandey137 It was not just a joke ;)

Already the greatest ever, but with his second Olympic Gold today, its just undeniable.

@mofieselschweif1544

2 жыл бұрын

The semi-final against Dima Ovtcharov was just insane

@magicsp9015

2 жыл бұрын

@@mofieselschweif1544Indeed, one of the top tier TT Olympic games

@mukulgem

2 жыл бұрын

Now with the third Olympic gold to it as well!

@OneStepToday

2 жыл бұрын

Traditional camera angle is better. Side is wrong

@gekingro

2 жыл бұрын

@@mofieselschweif1544 if he almost lost to the German, he can't be that good xD

Just coming back to this. Now there's 0 arguments to be made. GOAT.

@TableTennisDaily

2 жыл бұрын

We've been coming back to 😅

@StrictlyGuitar101

2 жыл бұрын

@@TableTennisDaily Been watching you guys over at WTT recently too.. Thanks for all you do for the sport!!

Its also impressive how he's playing now considering his knee problem. His side to side movement isn't the same anymore but he's adapted his game.

@whatevereyewant

3 жыл бұрын

I was just going to comment this but I guess I don’t have to now. 2015 ma long is like unlocking an all 99 team in an EA sports game.

@ig2d

3 жыл бұрын

How did he damage his knee?

@nighter7074

3 жыл бұрын

​@@ig2d simply because of his age (he's 30+), one day he went to training(at Sweden Open) and injured his knee, probably while casually making an normal forehand topspin, but at this age it's easier to injure yourself and take longer to heal

@benthekeeshond545

3 жыл бұрын

@@nighter7074 Tell me! Once I injured my shoulder playing tennis and thought that it would never heal. I stopped playing for seven or eight years. One special day went to play with some old friends and found out that it didn't hurt anymore. I don't know what happened but thank God, I am playing tennis again.

@weizenobstmusli8232

3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen Chinal Super League? It looks like the dragon is back. From the last tournaments to Super League his became super quick again.

Who's here after he won the gold medal in Tokyo 2020?

@gameboy3617

2 жыл бұрын

Ma Long got the gold medal!!!

@Harumichi__

2 жыл бұрын

@@gameboy3617 that's what i wrote

@b4njow865

2 жыл бұрын

@@gameboy3617 Nash

100% need the main angle to be at a 45 on the player's forehand side

@shotarolee5021

3 жыл бұрын

Yes yes yes

i trained as a boxer before finding out and getting into table tennis. people always complimented me for my balance and insane forehand strength. Whenever i watch ma long, he reminds me of a someone who has trained in boxing and moves like one. pure aggression with finese

@vdimitris1

3 жыл бұрын

I did the opposite. Played table tennis for years and then tried boxing with great result. I guess explosiveness is what those sports are shared.

@tackywacky99

3 жыл бұрын

@Nyem Shimo sport just means physical assertion. so yea anything really could be a sport.

@ausserirdischesuniversum2235

3 жыл бұрын

@@vdimitris1 came from muay thai into table tennis. Yes, explosivness, quick reactions, footwork and the eye focusing while everything around moves fast (like fists, kicks, or balls). There are many similarities, if you think about it that way, Also core strengh is pretty much needed in both sports. Surprisingly the tt- club players i play with outdoors tell me i do very good for a guy that never played in a club and actually learned technice!

@finasteridesolution3849

3 жыл бұрын

I want to see armwrestlers play table tennis.

@Broteese

2 жыл бұрын

Footwork and body control.

his match with Xu Xin at the German open was some of the greatest table tennis

In term of achievements, consistency and winning percentage, no one can really come close to Ma Long. But, if we compare the style of play and the level of the game, there is one player I can think of and that is Zhang Jike. Zhang Jike was also a complete player but with a backhand dominant instead of forehand dominant like Ma Long and was also a very strong player mentally. Zhang Jike can't match Ma Long in head to head and consistency, but the level of table tennis that Zhang Jike displayed at his peak was absolutely phenomenon. If we have Zhang Jike at his very best versus Ma Long at his very best, it will be one hell of a match with 50:50 chance of winning for either player.

@powerplaylive

2 жыл бұрын

absolutely true...i remember the austrian open between the two which was i guess in 2011...i think that match is itself the GOAT

@sidneysun3865

2 жыл бұрын

Ma Long actually wins 70% of the matches against Zhang Jike. But I do agree with you that a prime Zhang Jike playing in a major tournament has a 50:50 chance against any player ever.

@richmondkro

2 жыл бұрын

Both of them god Tier.

@seeker3983

2 жыл бұрын

i agree. maybe 65 % for ma long considering his God level consistency. jhang jike is more emotional and whimsical. depends on his day

@user-nk7ub3pz4e

Жыл бұрын

Nah

9:10 - 100% agreed as well. The 45º view is great in my opinion because you can get a better notion of width, as well as speed, depth of the shots and height of the arcs (if the camera was a bit lower).

@darrinkulyk9560

3 жыл бұрын

45 Too the Serve

@tomato4300

3 жыл бұрын

Yo sup! _Again...._

@frederikvater

3 жыл бұрын

+1, totally agree.

@deepee159

2 жыл бұрын

+1

@julliferjosephtuba2202

2 жыл бұрын

I guess the issue with the 45 degree view is that the players may sometimes end up blocking the camera.

So elegant and effortless much like Federer in tennis

@rjari8578

3 жыл бұрын

Not really

@kbh2200

3 жыл бұрын

I would say he is both Federer And Djokovic. That's how good he is. He got technique like Federer and powerful as Djokovic.

@warrenlee6024

3 жыл бұрын

If ur talking about effortless you should be talking about fognini

@guudnewdle6910

3 жыл бұрын

More like the Djokovic of Table Tennis.

@darrenlang1111

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely more like djokovic, his game is neither as elegant nor effortless as Federer, that goes to Waldner, but he’s an absolute machine

Who is here after his 2nd consecutive Olympic gold medal??

@mjax8821

2 жыл бұрын

✌

thanks for this video ! the commentary, video editing, and transition is really good. it made me understand WTT, how Ma Long is the best, and keep me hooked until the end of the video.

This video really helped me appreciate how incredible of a table tennis player Ma Long truly is. So creative, adaptable, accurate, efficient, intelligent, dominant and resilient.

Ma Long has won way more trophies and silverware than Waldner at this point and has better head-to-head results with literally anyone he's played against. This Ma Long vs Waldner debate has to end. No disrespect to Waldner as I love him too but Ma Long IS the GOAT.

@matthiasglaschke5946

3 жыл бұрын

Guess Waldner didn't ever care abt head-to-head comparison at all, but to win every big tournament possible at least once. His talent was overdose, that's why he could play almost effortless against many opponents. Hold my beer ^^

@zabdielisaiahmaynes4345

3 жыл бұрын

Although you're probably right about how ma long already has more awards and stuff, it doesn't mean that they're already the best. What if the other guy competed in less matches or stuff. You should also consider that thing

@GenyaArikado

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthiasglaschke5946 Lin Dan -> The greatest Badminton player of all time had the best head-to-head than anyone else as well...There were a few people...3 or 4 who had a better head-to-head than him but that was mostly in his latter years.

@matthiasglaschke5946

3 жыл бұрын

@@GenyaArikado That's amazing for sure! 👍🏼 But I think, table tennis is rather different and you need to react even faster, especially in the 38mm era.

@GenyaArikado

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthiasglaschke5946 Yes but i think a prime Ma Long would still beat a prime J.O Waldner...definetely

Ma long is your friend who says ping pong is a hobby for him

@isadsyafaat7057

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated, need more likes :v

@solo_wing_pixy_fan7367

3 жыл бұрын

That would be kimi rikkonen

@TheJutka1

3 жыл бұрын

@@solo_wing_pixy_fan7367 it's Räikkönen

The best angle to watch table tennis is “diagonal” (either from right or left side of the table).

@benpalmer-jones4865

2 жыл бұрын

It would be so good if they started using that angle instead

I absolutely agree with you about the camera angle Dan! Its looks best from the corner

I loved this tournament, all the cameras, the shooting angles and the play of lights. For me, this should be the new way of broadcasting all tournaments in 2021.

Xu Xin is like Luffy who can extend his arms and legs. Zhang Jike is like Shanks, who crumbles his opponent by his haki. Ma Long has the fire fruit, ice fruit, thunder fruit, earthquake fruit, dark fruit, etc. He is a force of nature by himself in ping pong.

@Janak217

9 ай бұрын

Nice one piece analogy

For the WTT , I'm not so sure about the sudden death and the 5 points thing but the new camera angles are indeed revolutionary, game changer for me.

I like the side view angle of the camera the most, because I can clearly see their right distances when they're hitting the ball, most especially the forehand. Watching it on the diagonal is also a great camera angle to watch because you can also see much better how high the ball bounces. In watching game replays, Would be very nice if we can select either one, would truly help in studying games, especially their techniques and timing of shots

I adore the play of Waldner, I identify more because I feel like that no matter how genial he is, what he does somehow is more of this Earth, more potentially reachable. (Not that I will ever 1% of the player he was). But Ma Long is something else, a similar level of technical mastery of all shots, but immensely more power, speed, explosiveness and consistency when making the crazy high speed rallies. Ma Long best ever absolutely. His play after coming back from knee issues has sealed his place. Level + longevity at the top.

He used to play passive(which means safe but not aggresively) with his backhand but during these days, we can see him using more active backhand loops more often while reducing forehand loops. I guess he is making a new strategy due to his age. (Maybe forehand loop causes more power thus makes him more tired compared to when he was younger)

As Adam correctly mentions in the olympic final match commentary, Ma Long absolutely dominates in strategy and game "iq". He predicts every move of every opponent while coming up with insanely effective and creative plans in his games, often within split seconds.

And Here I was thinking he was gonna retire after that knee injury, boy I was dumb.

@FBR2169

2 жыл бұрын

Oh boy... this aged like fine wine ....

3:53 - YES!! It was so much fun to see ppl talking about Xu Xin after he lost to the "english name" player hahahahah It's a subtle but really cool way to make the sport more interesting and popular

@abolfazldehnavi2634

3 жыл бұрын

He is very very very good

Am partial to Waldner being his countryman, but Ma Long is something else. Maybe it isn't even important who the GOAT is, maybe it's just cool to watch these tabletennis legends play and compete, and enjoy their skill.

@anamikakhanra8407

3 жыл бұрын

W09

@alberthuang4868

3 жыл бұрын

you cannot compare Waldner and Ma Long bcos they played in different eras - just enjoy their skills and different styles

@dickn.ormous1064

Жыл бұрын

Waldner played when there were many countries with good TT programs.No it's only Germany,a second class power,and neophyte Japan.Even the Chinese squad is far smaller.

i loved the color of the Table, the side angle as it makes the viewer understand the movement of the players and above all the price money.

You can tell this is a promotion video for WTT, but I thoroughly agree with what you said about Ma Long. GOAT.

Ma Long is and will ever be the best of all time. Prove him wrong! Alone the mindset.. his own words: „I just wanna show the world my passion that is table tenis and motivate everyone to join this amazing sport.“ what a men.

Why is ML the best? He does everything better than everyone.

@buttxrontoast-7100

3 жыл бұрын

His attacks are relentless, brutal and powerful, so he does not have to defend or anything

@MrVibhas

3 жыл бұрын

I think he is the best, however it would be wrong to say that. Fan zhen dong alone has several areas where he's better, physicality just being a huge one.

@gab5012

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrVibhas Yes, players like Dima and FZD have more powerful backhands (not saying more effective, but at least more powerful)

@Git2gether2023

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrVibhas With all due respect, Ma Long has beaten Fan Zhendong, far more often. Than Fan has beaten him. Fan has a more powerful backhand. That's it. Ma Long has better serves, footwork, forehand, service return, accuracy, more heart, more experience, etc. I respect your opinion. But Ma Long is the greatest to ever play this sport. When Fan accomplishes, what Ma Long has. Then we'll talk. Bigger isn't always better. Peace!

@Git2gether2023

3 жыл бұрын

Fan Zhendong is Lebron James... But Ma Long, is Michael Jordan!

Total idol, I love Ma Long and the greatest thing is that he has established the top level on our days but in the future that level will be the base for new athletes, can´t wait to watch the future of TT with this man (and many others) as coach!

Great video! Ma Long is a BEAST! Hard to choose between him and JO though. Different eras! I'm just happy to have been around to watch them both. Especially JO Waldner since I'm a Swede of course! :)

@JaydenTYX

2 жыл бұрын

Waldner is the number 1 outside of China in many Chinese’s mind I can tell you

Dan I would love if you keep making videos like this Perhaps a top 5 or 10 all time ranking based on ur opinion etc

@TableTennisDaily

3 жыл бұрын

Hey yes will try to do more of these :) Good shout on this video idea!

@yeagerist977

3 жыл бұрын

Best of all times (top 5) Skill based: 1. Ma long 2. Fan zhendong/Zhang jike 3. Fan zhendong/Zhang jike 4. Wang Chuqin/Ma lin 5. Liang jinkun/Wang hao/Wang liqin (Ugh this list is very controversial however I am very confident of the first 3 but after that there are so many things to consider so 4 and 5 are opinion based however 1-3 I can give a thorough explanation as to why those 3 are the pinnacle of table tennis technique) Titles: 1. Ma long 2. Waldner 3. Zhang jike 4. Liu Guoliang 5. Kong linghui (There’s really no argument here since this list has the top 5 males players of all time who won the most olympics, WTTC and World Cup titles) SO these 2 lists clearly show why ma long is the GOAT of this sport and the fact that Waldner fanboys need to shut up since Waldner doesn’t compare to ma long is skills nor titles. (No disrespect to the legend though!)

The fact that I don't see jokes about his name makes me feel immature.

@ameenferry4988

2 жыл бұрын

When I saw this title the first thing that came to my mind was Mike oxlong

@x0cx102

2 жыл бұрын

he's got a Longer one than me that's for sure

@alslaboratory570

2 жыл бұрын

Ma Long Vs Wang Hao

@informationfort

2 жыл бұрын

Ma longer

@zen8704

2 жыл бұрын

Ma long shlong

Love the video's jeep up the good work👍

Very nice video format, you should do a series talking about each player with the title like,, how good is x player,, players of the past and current players and talk about their playstyle achievments and more stuff like that.

Ma Long is the greatest. First person who won 2x Olympics gold consecutively! OP!

@CoffeeXmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@keithlin579 ye. Zhang is another GOAT!!!

@g3capslol385

2 жыл бұрын

@@keithlin579 yeah but that’s why she is the goat of women

There is a point in the team event of the Olympics between Ma Long and Aruna that passed under the radar. You see that point and you will have no doubts that this guy is real GOAT 🐐

@flagella1337

3 жыл бұрын

Should provide us a link to the vid and time stamp.

@chebkhaled1985

3 жыл бұрын

@@flagella1337 kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYV3lK6Mn9O5icY.html

Agree 100% with you on the camera angle. The side-on angle does give you a flavour for how fast the ball's actually travelling, but it's a bit tough to really understand the point. You get no insight on how the players move each other around. The diagonal angle, when reasonably low, is just perfect. The side-on angle, although a tad lower than the one they had at Macao, can be used for replays.

I like MA long very much and agree that he is the GOAT but my favourite player would always be Timo. Just love his technique and his games.

@furqanulhaq7250

2 жыл бұрын

Same just love him.

@stefanschneider3681

2 жыл бұрын

European champion at age FOURTY 💪👏👍!

@seeker3983

2 жыл бұрын

i love timo as a player. he has one of the best sportsmanship i have ever seen. but i don't like his techniques and overall prowess.he has that typical European powerless techniques and don't hit hard enough. just my opinion.

Ma Long on his way to win 2nd gold medal in olympics men’s singles tt atm

Ma long surely doesn't have an explosive backhand like Fan zhengdong or Zhang zike as well, but the really scary thing about Ma long is in his intelligence. He finds the opponents' weaknesses so well, especially when he ever met that apponent before. And even if the opponent prepared well, Ma long is able to cover almost every player only with his pure strength.. This is why Ma long is soooo tough to win over to any player :)

@tonyping2262

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the tactical game and the mental game that makes him so tough to beat. Consider Fan Zhendong for example, he hasn’t won many of the major international tournaments and the Olympics even though his technique for the Backhand is so explosive and powerful and his physical fitness level is insane. But Ma Long win against him in the most crucial points over his experience over big tournaments , mental toughness and tactically always keeping one step ahead of the opponent

@hawnt2r

4 ай бұрын

Zhang Jike was quite a tactician too, and I think he and Ma were quite equal at strategy. The only thing that stopped Zhang from becoming GOAT are injuries

please make more videos analyzing players! great video

I love the WTT format, I think the people complaining about the new format are just not used to it yet. I believe that WTT looks much more appealing and less boring especially for someone who's new or does not know much about the sport. Maybe more game stats like ball positions or spin and speed of players' shot would be a great addition for the future events.

LOVE WATCHING MA LONG & ZHANG JIKE

I used to think Waldner was goat and obviously he is still an all time legend, but ma long has truly proven himself. If he gets another olympic gold there will absolutely be no question in anyones mind

@faker3033

2 жыл бұрын

There is already no question, he has everything going for him, i can understand if u like waldner to say for "me" he is the best, but stats don't lie and MaLong has them all

@SimeonYoung

2 жыл бұрын

He just got one in Tokyo, beating Fan Zhengdong the ranked number 1!

@seeker3983

2 жыл бұрын

@@SimeonYoung Rio, Tokyo. world championship titles how many times???

@dickn.ormous1064

Жыл бұрын

Against zero competition. Fat boy Fan Zhendong is going to destroy his records with that joke competition.

Ma Long has always been the GOAT since Rio 2016. 2019 WTTC was just the icing on the cake imho. He just keeps on winning despite being at retiring age for Chinese players (Waldner also did this but to a lesser extent). MA LONG GOAT!

God, 5 months ago I fell in love with table tennis. I'm 30yo, I will always be an amateur, but I love it.

The video the world needed😍

@NinjaWarriorFanclub

3 жыл бұрын

The Ma Long Fan is Here 😄 The Moment when He got 160 Subs only because of His Name and Profil Picture

@oezguer22

3 жыл бұрын

@@NinjaWarriorFanclub I got them before i called my account Ma Long😂

@NinjaWarriorFanclub

3 жыл бұрын

@@oezguer22 lol :-D Why?!

@oezguer22

3 жыл бұрын

@@NinjaWarriorFanclub I created videos about Tv Shows but didnt want to go on with that content so I deleted everything and most of the subscribers are left 😅

@NinjaWarriorFanclub

3 жыл бұрын

@@oezguer22 ah okay 👍

To me it`s Ma Lin, he always surprised with impossible counterattacks and has his own signature style of playing table tennis

@paddle_smith

3 жыл бұрын

Ma Lin is my favorite. His variation on timing is fun to watch. However, if we're talking about the best, Ma Long hands down. He's accomplished too much to not be.

@shanelawson5072

3 жыл бұрын

U cannot be serious... There's no way anyone could rate Ma Lin as the greatest tt player of all time.

@nathansamuel7837

3 жыл бұрын

By achievements ma long.. most pro tours won, grand slam champion.

@14dieguito

3 жыл бұрын

even fan zhendong is better than ma Lin...the only similar styles in terms of the greatesth the history was Jan ove waldner.

@Susu-gv2uz

3 жыл бұрын

ma lin is great,but ma lin- ma long head 2 head matches is like 31-7 for ma long lmao

Not sure why this is showing up in my recommended. But I love it!! Scary how the algos can read your mind.

The new side angle is better than the old angle, but the 45 degree angle is the best imo. The whole event was awesome! Love the changes! Ma Long is the goat for sure.

Ma Long, the living legend, God of table tennis has clearly over taken Waldner with second olympic single's gold in Tokyo becoming all time great of the quickest game on the planet

@stevest8675

Жыл бұрын

Agree

Yes, Ma Long in my opinion is the GOAT. I prefer the side view more than the old behind the player view

@seeker3983

2 жыл бұрын

not an opinion anymore. its a fact. u can't Deny statistics. rest are opinions

I like the side view. Absolutely a better perspective!!!

Rear corner angle is best to follow the ball. Also, color and lighting scheme were excellent for ball visibility. Olympic Committee should take heed. Congratulations!

Ma Long Is the real champion! 👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏 Jaminan mutu 🏓🏓🏓

Have I been baited into the best #wtt advert. I even think it’s good now. Dan’s need to be be getting bank for this mega business brain

Had to come check him out after his fanatic match for gold this year

Absolutely agree about the camera angle. Side angle view is ok, but it should be as an additional option. The main camera should be from behind.

Well played Sharath against the GOAT today🔥🔥.....long way to go

@namratakumari6749

2 жыл бұрын

Yeahhhh🙏🔥🔥🔥

I agree, Ma Long is the GOAT, but I believe Dan Ives' forehand rivals the dragon's hahahah

@tomato4300

3 жыл бұрын

_Uh-huh...._

Dan, I'm sorry. I love your content overall, and I can't underestimate how much of an impact you have to amateur-level table tennis players (such as myself). But I can't deny I drew comparisons in the comments WTT had this year, compared specially against Adam Bobrow's in previous events. Different styles, obviously, but I have to say I miss him very much.

He is too too too good. Thank you for making this video :)

National tt tournaments in china is actually tougher than any international events😂😂

@chanzhao3379

3 жыл бұрын

I remember they aired olympic trial which was actually more exciting to watch compare to the actual olympic game consider the potential micromanagement exists in olympics of maximizing the chance to secure gold medal for team china.

@buttxrontoast-7100

3 жыл бұрын

I mean chinese players have special techniqes (i meant fully chinese players not Halfs like me) which makes the game easier.

Waldner was doing well without having all the technologies equipment they have now.He was ahead of everybody else in his era and was doing a lot of tricks shots way in advance. He set the tone for new generations. He is in my opinion the 🐐 goat.

@seeker3983

2 жыл бұрын

u r blinded by your emotions. facts hit hard. Waldner was really overrated due to his fancy blocks. he was never in a slight way possible dominant in his era like ma long does. Waldner lost to so many players in his time. and was not consistent. how many times he won wttc and Olympics??? and in terms of speed, techniques involved and power, table tennis has evolved and became much more faster, difficult, competitive and fitness demanding. just like every sports does. its much more complicated and sophisticated now. and ma long beats Waldner in every department possible. SPEED, TECHNIQUES, POWER, ATHLETICISM, AGILITY, FOOTWORK, etc. okay, lets put all the things aside. Malong surpassed every players by miles and miles in real statistics. the most medals won. world championship titles. Olympics. ofcourse people can have their opinions, but its official and factual now that he is the G O A T

@dickn.ormous1064

Жыл бұрын

@@seeker3983 Ma Long is pusher smasher.And how has TT evolved when no1 player is Fan Zhendong,a fat short guy?If Waldner played against weaklings like Mizutani he would have won alot more.Zhang JIke made to the final at the Olympics in 2016 beating only a geriatric Samsonov talk about difficulty...

Your GOAT question sent me to wikipedia and down a rabbit hole. Looking at the lists of past world champions there is one fact in particular jumps out at you. From its inception in 1926 up until 1935 the world championship (all competitions but especially the singles) were dominated by one country - Hungary (Kingdom of Hungray). This is a sports article waiting to be written by somebody - before it is lost to living memory. I am intrigued how Hungray came to be so dominant for so long. Did they invent the game or something? Another fun fact I stumbled upon - Fred Perry won the world championship one year.

I love this essay style

If Ma Long versed himself it would be a match of who dies first

The messi of table tennis

Side angle is soo good. Really shows just how crazy day they actually move

I thought this would like more at his career compared to others, but this is also cool🔥

now with another gold he is 100% the goat

Yes definitely the G.O.A.T

I love this video, it was so good. Nice combination of good points and analysis. It could be a new series of video, focusing on a player journey through a tournament. I agree with you on the camera angle. Main camera angle should be diagonal and not too high. Side camera is ok for some diversity but only for some points. Top view camera is useless. I like the new format with short match for the seeding and the evolution of number of set through the tournament. Quarter finals could be in best of 7 as well. However, I don't like the game point decider.

The greatest of all time, undisputed Ma Long

Ma Long doesn't have 1 thing that's the strongest, Ma Long doesn't have Ryu Seung Min's footwork ,Waldner and Xu xin's touch, Liu Guoliang's serves, Zhang Jike and Fan ZD's backhand and physique, Ma Lin and Wang liqin's forehand power, Lin Gaoyuan's swing speed. Nothing stands out to be the strongest, but he has them all and every 1 of his techniques is among the few best in the world, maybe that just makes him a man of no speciality and a man with all specialities. also, similar to Zhang Yining, Ma Long truly have no obvious weaknesses in all aspects of his game, his game is well balanced, it's just rare. that's the toughest kind of opponent to overcome.

@yueli333

2 жыл бұрын

Coz their all from Liaoning province.

@seeker3983

2 жыл бұрын

he does have the strongest forehand. and most successful chop blocks in competitive matches. his forehand is not as fast as ryu seung min. but considering consistency, techniques and overall power. he by miles and miles have the strongest forehand.

His secret is his aggression. He always plays aggressively. Give him a 0.001% chance and he will go for it

What a legend!

And he successfully defense his Olympic men single gold medal. 😳🐐😳

Jan-Ove Waldner

@yeagerist977

3 жыл бұрын

No just no

Ma Long it is, No ZJK, No JOW, Ma Long, only ever player to win 2 olympic gold medals consecutively, only player to ever achieve a DOUBLE grand slam, like wth..... ✌️

I think corner to corner gives a lot more info in table tennis than traditional lawn tennis. Switching in between is good but corner to corner should be norm.

I'd like camera angles to chance, it will be awesome, but about the game system, I prefer the one we have, I think a lot of people prefer the classic main draw and the best of 7 matches. WTT is fun, but just for a couple of times per year. Thanks for video, greetings from Colombia.

Hi Dan, I understand that you've been blown away by your courtside experience, but unless you've watched ALL the greats play in person AND THEN made a comparison then I'd say it really depends on what era and what kind of player you're looking up to. Being truly great encompasses the player's whole person or else we will just be limited to admiring a shell based talent. Cheers mate!

i see a lot of salty people who can't acknowledge that ma long is the GOAT.

@paulanthony1689

3 жыл бұрын

Because he isn’t. He’s the best of the last decade but people are too quick to give current athletes the “GOAT” title; look at TT history. JO was at the top for 80s, 90s and 2000s

@cks2020693

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulanthony1689 JO might've been more dominant against the players during his years. Ma Long has won every major title, has the longest unbeaten streak in history and is the only player in history to have a winning ratio against every player he has ever competed against.

@Collector731

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulanthony1689 Are you really comparing TT back then and TT now? How can one do that? It's obvious that training, nutrition and competition is getting better and better with every passing year, not to mention a decade. Waldner wouldn't stand a chance to first five Chinese players

@aalokatmaa1606

3 жыл бұрын

@@Collector731 Totally agreed. Those who are going for Waldner have been sleeping after his time because of which they have no idea on how fierce the players of today are. The prime Waldner would even be lucky to win a set against prime top 5 Chinese players of today. I mean it seriously.

@aalokatmaa1606

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulanthony1689 I’m really sorry to know how outdated your knowledge on table tennis is. Waldner’s speed and footwork is 10 times slower than those of top 10 Chinese players of today. I’m not talking about the old Waldner here. I mean the prime Waldner vs prime Chinese players of today. So just imagine how lucky he would be if he could win a set against them😁😁

Being Swedish I’ve got to go Waldner, the length of career as well has to be taken into consideration..

When is Dan going to review Ma Long's blade amd rubbers? (or at least the provincial ver)

Obviously when you are representing your country you would give it everything you had to win. Waldner played against the best Chinese teams for generations and won on most occasions, an incredible feat regardless of his personable achievements. What would be more important to you representing your country or your own personal gain? Sometimes I shut my eyes and think how amazing this man was to maintain a high level of endeavor for so long. This feat alone gives him a slight edge over Ma Long who has my upmost respect.

@ctdtreroll503

2 жыл бұрын

This is fair enough, even for me as a Chinese. I don't know much abt the history, but I know how hard it is to represent China in an international table tennis game. You just have too many beasts to beat before you can stand there. If Waldner beat several Chinese teams, he earns the title already.

@dickn.ormous1064

Жыл бұрын

A slight edge?Waldner had the whole CNT devising tactics to beat him for decades, also Korea and Europe were super strong.Do you think Ma Long would have survived more than 2 years if FZD was allowed to target him?Other than his short game(and I mean pushing) nothing stands out and he had to train it because he lost to veterans like Samsonov/Boll in rallies.Ma Lin for that matter is much more impressive.

Ma Long is the GOAT, no doubt !

Wow the black table looks awesome 👏🏼

Love to see it

hahaha i laugh the whole time when ma long destroys his opponents. I love it

I think Ma Long and Fan Zhendong are the best players of all time, so far. Waldner and Persson were great in their time, but the sport has evolved and the speed and technique is higher compared to twenty years ago...

@gab5012

3 жыл бұрын

Yes there are was very different, even some of the rules (like the ball and the service rules). I dont think waldner's playstyle would be as effective in this era, just my opinion though, I cant say for sure

@cenktekin7175

Жыл бұрын

@@gab5012 why don't u think that if Waldner plays now, he would adjust his playstyle for nowadays needs. for me, important criteria is how much he was great in their time and his peak and how other plays feel against him? and how he has ability and mental strength for example timo boll told in interview that his toughest opponent was Waldner and Timo play against Wang Liqin, ZJK and Ma Long at their peak time and not Waldner's real peak time with aspect of success, yes Ma Long is the greatest (most successful), but the greatest player ever?... need to analyze more with all parameters

@gab5012

Жыл бұрын

@@cenktekin7175 Ma Long achieved more in a shorter career so far and a harder era

@gab5012

Жыл бұрын

@@cenktekin7175 We can't assume what adjustments Waldner would make for this age

@cenktekin7175

Жыл бұрын

@@gab5012 harder era, i am not much sure, before poly-ball he was behind of ZJK and Wang Hao and almost equal with XX. He adjusted himself for poly-era perfectly, XX get destroyed with poly-ball, ZJK has lack of motivation, and new players for poly-era like tomokazu need time I don't mean Ma Long is not best; he is one of the greatest, maybe the greatest and my favorite player after WLQ, but statistics is a very strong parameter but not only the parameter

Hey Dan, I wish we can meet up one day and play TT with each other’s, I am a very big fan of you. I hope you read this🙏

It’s funny cuz as a kid growing up watching table tennis I only remember Ma Long always losing to older/better players lmao xD this video really shows how much he improved wow!