"Life's too short to drive boring cars!!!!!!!" - picks a Toyota Camry. All jokes aside, Camry's are great daily drivers. I own Honda/Acura's with no issues other than regular maintenance. Been a Honda owner for over 20 years. Love both Honda and Toyota though.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

They go forever on minimal cost

@vulcanman64

Жыл бұрын

@@ECPP I had the Camry xle v6 and the engine has over 300 hp. It’s a rocket.

@wink2154

Жыл бұрын

Best thing about a yota is it doesn't leak as often and ofc I wouldn't have to disassemble the whole damn car to change a bulb; but, it doesn't quite feel like a honda.

@josefernandezsmith4840

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. After 2026-18 I have never really seen an Accord or Civic with the 1.5L Turbo with engine oil delusion issues. And CVT transmission issues? Never knew about those.

@mmahtnart8986

Жыл бұрын

He's a KZreadr, he has tons of money. He said this was a daily driver. I assume his "Lifes too short cars" are in the garage. Comprende?

I like Toyota Camry because it has 8 speed auto transmssion instead of CVT.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Excellent

@jack8356

Жыл бұрын

Same

@rorycalhoun1126

Жыл бұрын

Way better than CVT's

@user-tb7rn1il3q

Жыл бұрын

The Camry has more powerful engines as well. Toyota uses port and direct injection. The Accord uses direct only which may cause carbon buildup.

@dobuto23

Жыл бұрын

Did he misspeak when he said his Camry has a CVT transmission or did I hear it wrong? I replayed that part 5 times and keep hearing him say his Camry is CVT.

I just brought the new Honda Accord EX 2023 at MSRP 31,160. The fact that I’m 6’4”” and felt my comfortable in the Honda. Both Honda and Toyota are great.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Lots of room indeed. Not all cars have that.

@Brsrafal

Жыл бұрын

If that was new camry no way i love Honda interior comfort but camry deff better long term with 1.5 cvt no go.

@JayakrishnanH007

2 ай бұрын

Hey John , I'm looking to get an Accord 2021 or 2022 but I'm like 6ft tall and was confused whether I should go for a CRV just for comfort in long drives but I'm an Accord lover. Please give me some insights

The hose clamp failures on other brands is something no one ever talks about and it says a whole lot about the manufacturer if they can’t get something like that right.

@stephendibari5010

Жыл бұрын

YES, Toyota/Lexus uses the type shown in this video, they expand with pressure and don't fail like the slotted banded ones with a screw.

Owner a 2002 Honda accord for 16 years 200 k miles , very minimal maintenance . That v6 was still the best engine I have had over all .

@zygi22

Жыл бұрын

My dad has a 2000 accord 2.4 with a 100k on the odometer, mostly city driving. It obviously has a few issues here and there but it’s served him well for many years.

@michaelsuzio4268

9 ай бұрын

I plow through cars every 3/4 years and put thousands of miles on cars every Month doing gig apps or delivering pizza for the last 15 years

@thaydathroeun8678

3 ай бұрын

I miss that car had one too. Had her up to 135 mph

@shivampatel5802

3 ай бұрын

@@thaydathroeun8678 I took it to 140 it was sweet , I fell for the matrix and bought a new car. No I regret it .

Thanks for the review. I just bought the same car, on order, in Mica Grey. Also did my own research on other models and this one won. Can't hardly wait for its delivery.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Great cars for sure.

@billybobbob3003

Жыл бұрын

@@ECPP lol my mom had a 2002 and 2008 camry they were probley less reliable than her 2012 chevy malibu lol which now has 196,000 miles on it.

I really like your presentations. Crisp and to the point. You come across loud and clear. Thanks

Congrats! I rented a Camry when my regular car was in the shop and I was so impressed with that car. It had a great inside room a huge trunk, a sporty drive and I too love the look of it. If Toyota made a Camry TRD with a 6-speed manual mated to that smooth-running V6 I would have to find a way to get one.

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

I hope they make v6 an option on LE. Come on man, we gotta get this affordbale dumb reliable v6 game up. Tbe 4 bangers are good you can get NA 2 liter and turbo engines in sedans but its hard to get a v6 in a base model.

LE is the base model here in the states. I have a se and I love it. Proud of this car.

@JasPlun

Ай бұрын

I have an SE as well for my wife we wish we had gotten the LE because it is much quieter on the road the SE with its sport tuned suspension is very loud with the road noise.

Hey Mark, great video! I was in the same boat when I purchased my '21 Camry SE (Non-AWD). I was cross shopping the accord and the camry just did more things 'right' for what I wanted. Non CVT, mechanical gear shift and not electronic, mine came w turn key ignition which I prefer to push button, 2.5 cl4 cylinder larger engine than accords 1.5 turbo. Less stress and strain and doesn't work as hard especially with passengers. Love how toyota went bigger displacement 4cyl and just kept it naturally aspirated. Purchase price was also lower. Great on fuel, amazing handling and adequate tech made it the winner kn my books. (Although I do think the accord looks very nice and sporty). Lol

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree the larger 4 cyl just makes up the gap on power and keeps it more dependable. Great approach

Hi Mark thanks for the great video. Any reason you didn't consider the hybrid?

Have a 16:Accord with the 2.4 naturally aspirated. Most reliable car I’ve ever owned. Had 3 previous Camry’s too. Driving dynamics and overall usability surpasses the Camry across the board.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@sammyt3514

Жыл бұрын

That naturally aspirated engine is the one to get; unfortunately Honda has been turbocharging most of its 4-cylinder engines and the result of that is inferior long term reliability compared to their bulletproof non-turbo engines.

@cnovasalmanhussain2348

Жыл бұрын

Accord's four Cylinder 2.4 Vti-L engine from 2007 to 2017 line up is the best 4 cylinder engine I have come across to date highly fuel efficient and Powerful as a V6...

@gerardhesse6959

Жыл бұрын

@@cnovasalmanhussain2348 Agree. Turbos are much less reliable than the Regular engines.

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

Honda does steering better. They feel really really good to drive. Just wish honda would lean more into natrually aspirated 4 cylinders and 6 cylinders again like toyota. Once you start throwing on hybrid turbo small displacement yadda yadda, it will only cost more and more of a fortune to keep going and ultimately the longer they can stay out of the junkyard the better. No replacement for displacement. Why turbo when you shoulda known from the beggining you wanted more power and just gone with a little larger cylinder and kept tons of the reliability and simplicity that will help us keep these things going longer.

One thing to mention (Honda employee here) Toyotas tend to make up that base MSRP with non negotiable accessories vs Honda that has a set trim level and all the options that come on that trim level are set. So by the time you have comparable features you actually end up at about the same price. Just a small mention. When it comes down to functionality and styling it will vary driver to driver. Just depends on preference between these two cars to a degree. Both are excellent cars.

Most informative. Thank you!

****As an OWNER of the Camry 2018 XSE (Manufactured in February) we did have Transmission failure. It took two and a half weeks to order and replace under warranty but they provided a newer year Highlander as Customer Service Car that was covered as well. It was VERY NICE to drive but not as economical and costs about a third more. Around 100,000 miles but as early as 50,000 depending on driving conditions hwy/city time(s) you can expect to replace the Electric Water Pump ($45), you will get a trouble code pop up and the car will quickly go to overheat. Immediately find a place on the side of the road, put on your hazards, pop the hood, wait till either tow truck arrives or watch the overfill drop down in about a minute or two then go again, you may only get a mile before overheating again, rinse and repeat. I would advise most to call a tow, it's not worth burning up the engine. I work on cars a little as a expensive hobby. On the, "Infotainment System" it's crap, there is no reason to have this garbage tarnishing the car and it's not like you can run out and grab another head unit like you use to be able to do. Somethings are better left alone. If you love your car, CHANGE YOUR OIL when you are supposed to! I hate seeing engine from oil starvation having to be replaced. I'm currently helping my wife's cousins husband to do an engine swap, to find out it has to have all gaskets and certain elements changed to validate the warranty in case it doesn't work out. Unless you just want to throw away $4k to $5k, change your oil. If you have GM's 3.6 that are prone to timing chain issues, GET RID OF IT! Even at a loss you'll be ahead. Back to the Camry, Even though it's a, "Sealed Transmission" CHANGE this FLUID. It's similar to changing the oil, but make sure the car is level, DO NOT do a FLUSH!

@sherrikwhiteside6107

Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience as an owner and mechanic. I desperately need a car. If you were currently in the market for a new car in the midsize segment, which would you go with, knowing what you know now? Unfortunately, none of these cars are as good as they used to be, but I have to get something asap.

@TexasBig

Ай бұрын

@@sherrikwhiteside6107 There are variables to every purchase. The Camry was planned for a long time to obtain in my wife's and I purchases. We bought a used Corolla having kids and budget to consider with the desire to make the most with what little we had. We still have that car today. It's just not driven. Our son is supposed to be driving but is not. It lacks the safety that we would prefer him to have. We've also owned a Hyundai Sonata, in which I maintained and drove properly for the design to prevent coking up the valves. An accident had taken the car, as well as our baby girl in her last year of high school. Most cars for rear passengers will not survive an accident in a 40 mph collision. They fail in that regard towards safety. My wife refuses to buy or be part of Hyundai. The vehicle(s) I consider are; Toyota Genesis Hyundai Kia Subaru Stay far away from CVT transmissions. I'm not a fan of Hybrids, just more to go wrong. If lack of money wasn't an issue, it would be a Bugatti, I love the engineering and challenges it brings to learn its maintenance. Uncertain as to insurance costs though. Aspects to all wheel driving dependant on budget would likely be on the new Camry or Subaru. With all due respect because I'm limited as to research in actual drive time and personal engagement, I would consult leading research materials such as Consumer Reports. Check them out, I have always suggested their data and agree with their findings. Consumer Reports- would be MY go to for the answer.

@sherrikwhiteside6107

Ай бұрын

@@TexasBig thanks for the detailed and well articulated response. It was definitely helpful, and I’m sorry you and your wife had to experience something so tragic. I couldn’t imagine.

Great update and comparison Mark 🇨🇦✌️

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

As a former Camry owner, I have to agree with most of the things you stated above Mark. Never had a more reliable vehicle in my life, except for my Corolla, Haha :) However You do have the option of getting a naturally aspired engine in a Honda too, I currently drive a Honda Accord Touring with a 2.4 L, Na Aspired engine and no major issues. Compared to my Camry it is more fun, way more. Road handling manners in the Honda is superb, Stability, low end torque, Seat comfort, roominess, safety, infotainment Sys, All there for your disposal. Have you ever driven the 2.0T Engine Accord? I have and it's got around 250 BHP. The new 2023 Accord looks way better too. I am not a big fan of the Camry's front bumper with all those fake vents. For me purely the enjoyment of driving is paramount and maybe not the new ones, but my Camry was the most boring car I ever owned.

@R281

Жыл бұрын

My Camry is extremely boring, like myself lol

@michaelcrockette8694

Жыл бұрын

my Camry also left my mechanic bored.(traded in 4 a Lexus and he’s still bored).

@S_Shix

Жыл бұрын

I had 2017 camry before, it’s boring car, my Honda Odyssey is better performance than the camry, even it’s a minivan.

@issavibez394

Жыл бұрын

Toyota is still more reliable

@issavibez394

Жыл бұрын

Boring Hondas and wait until their trannys act up lol 😆 😂 🤣 I'd rather have lexus

Have a 2016 Scion iM 6sp and I do have to say they make quality interiors these days, the plastics are definitely not as crappy as my old Chevy Cobalt. The cobalt treated me well for the 10 years I had it though

9th Gen 2.4L 6MT Accord owner here. Looking to replace it in a few years and I just don't think I can go with the 11th gen Accord for the reasons you stated. Not a fan ~AT ALL~ of CVTs and turbo, GDI engines. I think the days of a 300K mile+ Honda engine are behind us. Camry hits home with a conventional auto and a NA GDI engine with intake valve injector rinse tech. Winning combo for my money and future cross country road trips.

@captainjack6890

Жыл бұрын

Too bad. You are doing yourself a disservice by ruling out the 10th Gen 2.0T Accord. Best car in its class by a mile. And if you search KZread there are a plenty 1.5T Hondas with the CVT that has gone over 300k miles

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

Listen bro my 2007 accord v6 has 175k miles and doesnt burn oil its really feels like its built to go 30 years if you take care of it. I think honda needs to become turbo phobic and compete with toyota with better 4 cylinders and v6s in better feeling cars. Theyve been doing small displacement turbos so long with cvts and when my 2007 accord has a v6 thats built to last and an automatic trans for 6k its hard to justify prices like 35k for a v6 camry and honda doesnt even have any engine configuration competing. Honda feels better to drive but my v6 hinda feels good to drive too. Toyota can putnthe v6 in the base LE model snd honda doesnt wven have a v6 to put in any models...

@EchoAccord

2 ай бұрын

I can't really take advice from people who've never owned the car and believe everything the internet tells them.

I love my 2017 Honda Accord, no issues, great mileage, speed when I need it, I'm happy! It's my 3rd Honda, non- turbo

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

Mine is ten years older than yours and is a great car. I enjoy how it doesnt beep at me or flash lights every time someone is in my blind spot. I like how it doesnt vibrate me

@jclar7210

6 ай бұрын

​@TheAnnoyingBoss That's great, I had a 2005 Accord coup 2.4 liter, had it for 12 years, still drove like new at 170k miles, before that I had a 2002 civic for 5 years, very speedy car, loved it too!

@lionking4035

4 ай бұрын

Honda stopped being cool after 2017

@jclar7210

4 ай бұрын

@lionking4035 I completely agree especially the Accords. Not sure what is the point of buying an accord after 2017, the Civics are almost the same size and you can still buy a 2.0 liter non turbo Civic sport

New watcher lifetime subscriber!!!! I have a 99 Civic SI and I would take that any day of the week over any new car!!!!💯💯💯

@ECPP

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub! And welcome to the channel.

Accord's four Cylinder 2.4 Vti-L engine from 2007 to 2017 line up is the best 4 cylinder engine I have come across to date highly fuel efficient and Powerful as a V6...

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

V6 smoother. Also better looking.

I had a 2017 Accord Coupe 3.5 V6 Touring. Loved it and the J35 sounds beautiful

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Good choice!

Just bought a 2023 Camry SE Night shade 2.5 liter! Upgrading from a 2000 Camry that still runs great! This new car has so many features compared to the 2000 Camry, WOW!

@ECPP

8 ай бұрын

Great choice and super reliable

Congratulations for your Toyota Camry they are great cars I own a 2018 camry xse awd tow ton colder pearl white and black top roof I had nothing done to the car amazing quality just oil change almost six years of ownership and no issues Toyota is a reliable reliable product

Love the channel

I’m really, really excited about the next gen Camry. It looks so much better than any Camry before it. Only issue is that I gotta wait a year

@ECPP

9 ай бұрын

Yes it’s a long wait for sure

great review my brother but I'm still in love with my 2018 accord with the 2.0 turbo 6 SPEED MANUAL. if i could have one thing from the 2023 version into my 2018 will be the full screen cluster display, other than that there’s nothing else i would change about my car

@pawelkilian3890

Жыл бұрын

2018 2.0 turbo automatic 106k no problems ❤it

@Imurge

Жыл бұрын

@@pawelkilian3890 what a car huh ☺️ 🚗 ✨

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

Every time honda makes a v6 its a banger

Just purchased an “In Transit” 2024 Toyota Camry AWD XLE Black on Black Leather…Can’t wait til she gets here.

@ECPP

2 ай бұрын

Wow sounds like a lovely spec

I have been driving a 23 LE as a rental and I have to say that I like this car! It drives very smooth, has an excellent chassis, and the power out of the 2.5 feels more than adequate.

@subaruamazon

8 ай бұрын

07 se with 144k on it. I want a 15 or 17 but the devil you know ......

I owned a 2003 Honda Accord and just bought a 2024 Toyota Camry for the same reasons you mentioned. I test drove both and liked the Accord more but the rating for the Accord in Consumer Reports was well below that of the Camry. I saw an article of the top 10 cars to buy in 2024 and 7 of the 10 were Toyotas including the Camry. The other thing was the Honda dealer refused to negotiate the sticker price and Toyota gave me $5000 off the sticker price with NO trade in. Much better deal.

I bought the Toyota Rav4 XLE Hybrid. The eCVT in the hybrid is bulletproof with no belt and nothing like a CVT transmission except for the name. Toyota has 26 years of experience with the hybrid, so they have it buttery smooth right now, and I can't really tell when the engine is off or on except if I look on the dash. There's no starter or alternator to wear out, and the hydraulic brakes last twice as long because most of the time you are using the regenerative braking. the high voltage cable was corroding in the 2019-2022 models, so I bought the 7 year warranty, since Toyota Canada didn't extend the warranty against this to the 2023 models. It's a $7000 repair, and even has the name "cablegate".

I'm looking at both for a daily. Leaning towards finding a used 2.0t with a manual. If i cant find one, next choice is a V6 camry. I'm expecting used prices to drop here in the US next month when student loan repayments start.

Hey Mark do you have winter tires on the Camry? Lots of snow in your part of the globe.

Great video thanks

@ECPP

8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Have a great weekend.

Your content is amazing

Did your Camry come with Eco, Normal and Sport mode? I don't see the buttons below the shifter like they are on other Camry's in this generation.

If my 2002 Maxima ever dies I will either put a new motor in it or get this Camry. Good advice. Everytime I jump in a Camry Uber here in NY I ask the guys for the mileage. Usually the response is in the +150k-200k mile range. When I ask about repairs it is always tires, brakes and oil.

I bought a used 2018 camry SE i love to drive handle well on the road very comfortable easy to drive too and very handsome design but please compare the sell in the USA camry sold 295 000 units and the accord sold only 153 000 units thanks for sharing your video take care bye from milton Ontario Canada

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, cheers from Edmonton

Good choice! As daily beater it's hard to beat a Toyota.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more!

I have a 2010 Accord 4 cyl 2.4 vtec, 450,000 kms on salted roads for half the year in Canada. I have never had an unusual repair. I still have the original exhaust.

Turbos are the mess up factor for any car. And a turn off for many who want a car they can keep for longer a time Cars without those Turbos will last 20-30-40 years easily

@ECPP

3 ай бұрын

It ups power, and efficiency, and sometimes fuel efficiency but often shortens life.

We have a 2023 Camry Hybrid and a had a 2021 prior to that, aside from dust intrusion they are great, we drive a fair bit of gravel road.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

True that can happen sadly

My 2003 Accord 2.4L automatic transmission has 400k miles it's still running like a new car!

Bro I also bought camry se 2020 in black just a couple weeks ago loving it.

If forced to choose...I'd buy a last-generation Accord with the 2.0L turbo engine. 5.4 sec 0-60.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Yes that’s the Accord to have in recent years fornsure

@hoopty.

Жыл бұрын

I'd rather buy the 93 accord. Those things were tanks.

@Firenmage433

Жыл бұрын

Striking looks too!

You really can’t go wrong with Honda, Mazda, or Toyota. I was hoping for Hyundai and Kia to improve their quality but based on what I’ve read, that does not appear to be happening.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

exactly

@davidefland1985

Жыл бұрын

Im on my 4th Hyundai sonata they get better with every new model. Mines a turbo and it does good on gas. 10 year 100k warranty on drive train.

@dancarlton7973

Жыл бұрын

The Korean imports in my area are getting stolen by a group of thugs.

@MeXiCoDeOrO

Жыл бұрын

I had very very bad experience with two Mazda, so I wouldn't include it. I currently have a Honda and a Toyota and it's crazy how this machines just keep going and don't ask for anything than the regular mantinance.

@EchoSigma6

Жыл бұрын

@@MeXiCoDeOrO Was your Mazda ownership during their time with Ford?

I think the Camry has port injection as well, so no worry about intake valve carbon build up.

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but its sorta a lie because i think toyota shoulda gave up on that spot and stuck with only port injection and got rid of direct injection so you have freaking half the injectors bruh... talk about expensive. If you had less injectors to buy from the factory this thing would be more efficient on the wallet. Is the .25 mpg worth it? Unless there was a way to reliably do port and direct injection with the same injector. Injectors these days seem to be pretty reliable. They just go and go and go but still if you do end up needing new ones in 30 years its nice if there is 4 and not 8.

I went with the 2021 Honda Accord 2.0t 10 speed. For me the 10th gen Accord is the second best looking Honda ever made (#1 NSX). Only thing I didn't like was no AWD available

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

Man its good but i want a war amongst naturally aspirated v6. I love how hondas drive but i like my old hondas v6 too much to gove it up for 4 banger hybrid or turbo etc.

Great video I bought almost the same exact vehicle except my car has 2 wheel drive. 4WD or AWD is not really necessary in Dallas. Same color and wheels. My only complaint is the telephone numbers stowed in Home Screen somehow keeps getting deleted.

2020 2.0 Accord w/63k and zero issues to date. Still very fun to drive.

@taiwoidowu2854

Жыл бұрын

You get around man.

I have own a 2020 Camry SE for 2 years now and its a great car. But I've been wondering whether I should have gotten a RAV4 thinking that it would be better for a tall person to get in and out.

Great video! I was surprised that they went with a cvt for the Camry, my 2021 has an 8 speed automatic transmission. Personally I’m not a fan of it sometimes because when I get into 7th gear I feel hesitation sometimes when it goes into it. Also, has anyone noticed that it gives off a weird engine sound when parked idling? I feel it is due to the high pressure pump in the engine

@emeyer6963

Жыл бұрын

That weird sound is the Direct Injection

@andersonrodriguez8258

Жыл бұрын

Camry has a 8 speed no cvt ever the accord yes

@andersonrodriguez8258

Жыл бұрын

And I have a 2018 Camry bd the engine is low the high pressure fuel pump low and direct nd port injection too

@MadManDan-MMD

7 ай бұрын

Yes nasty engine sound idle and has a SLOW acceleration from a stop, also HARD shifting from a stop. Might take it back.

A lot of people say Toyota is the best but I did my research and I went with the Matchbox VR9.

I am big Toyota fan after doing crazy research I went with the 2021 honda because that car just got everything in them.

TCCN is a Toyota MT, ofc, but he had similar things to say about his own Camry. (He, too, has had MB.) "Life's too short to drive boring cars", also too short to be spent dealing w/car problems at the dealer service center. You can have the fun ones, sure, but no one can deny the Camry's a reliable backup or daily for the family. There's a reason most Ubers, taxis, etc. are Toyota or Honda, and if you get the drivers talking, they'll tell you how much they love them. This is when "boring" ie. no drama, is good.

@ariesmight6978

Жыл бұрын

As a rideshare and food delivery driver I agree, safty, reliability and economy is everything.

@laurat1129

Жыл бұрын

@@ariesmight6978 My family has been getting home newspaper delivery for decades. One brutal winter, I worried about how our carrier was faring as I imagined him in an old SUV. Then I woke up very early one morning when it was still dark, only to see him arrive in a fairly new RAV4, and I wasn't so worried anymore. But I was a bit envious!😂

@mr.foxwiz1653

Жыл бұрын

What does TCCN mean?

@ariesmight6978

Жыл бұрын

@@mr.foxwiz1653 To lazy to Google search.

@laurat1129

Жыл бұрын

@@mr.foxwiz1653 The Car Care Nut, another channel here on YT.

Working on a V6 in a front-wheel drive is always a nightmare. In a front-wheel drive vehicle I'll take the naturally aspirated 4-cylinder every time. I can also do without the infotainment, the electric water pump, electric power steering if it has it, the CVT, and the all-wheel drive. A lot of Toyotas are also using that dual fuel injection setup now which I would also avoid.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

That is totally true

I'm a definite Camry lover; my 2010 is still a smooth and very reliable no-headache ride, and I love it so much for all the good memories it has given me. I plan to get a newer one once I get my money up - probably the SE upgrade model. Maybe I'll get an Accord someday, but for now, the exciting "boredom" of the Camry still has me hooked, lol.

@ECPP

11 ай бұрын

They will literally run forever

@commonsense5709

9 ай бұрын

I've owned my fair share of both Accords and Camrys and the Toyota will definitely outlast the Honda when it comes to automatic transmissions. The Honda has a very good probably of getting stolen too. Thieves desperately like to steal anything with Honda brand on them. I've personally had an Accord stolen parked outside my home and my 2005 Honda Odyssey van parked outside of a repair shop waiting in line for typical Honda automatic transmission rebuild and the thieves still stole it even though it was barely driveable due to it's failing transmission.

I was just talking to a Honda owner who drives a CR-V, the oldest model with over 250,000 miles on the odometer. he said he only changes the oil and does some minor repair.

Toyota/Lexus uses the hose clamp type shown in this video, they expand with pressure and don't fail like the slotted banded ones with a screw. I'm happy my 2002 Lexus ES300 which has the super reliable 1MZ 3.0L V6, so quiet and more than enough power. 174k miles and doesn't burn any oil between 5k synthetic oil changes (Pennzoil, full synthetic high mileage). These Turbo 4 cylinders will most likely have long term reliability issues. Great choice on the Camry, but Toyota not offering a V6 anymore is a huge mistake

@billsheehy1

Жыл бұрын

I have a 2006 Lexus ES 330. I’ve never had one problem with that car. I think they were built better back than they are now and they certainly look better. My wife has an Avalon 2002 180,000 miles. Nothing goes wrong with that car as well in her idiots son has a BMW 330. Nothing is always breaking down third turbo charger on it as we speak.

@stephendibari5010

Жыл бұрын

@@billsheehy1 2002 through 2006 4th generation ES 300 are the highest quality Lexus has ever built along with the LS early gens. There is one on KZread same year as mine which had 590,000 highway miles on it with original engine and transmission. This was posted about three years ago. Best car I’ve ever owned and I’ve been driving over 40 years.

Great comparison Mark. ...🇯🇵

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much

LE is the base model. LE,SE,XLE,XSE in that order and you can get any trim in AWD,V6 with no AWD option or hybrid in FWD or AWD.

I chose the 2022 Honda Accord Sports 2T and I am loving it.

Consumer Reports placing BMW third?..over Honda and Mazda? SMH

As a owner of many models in both Honda and Toyota I keep my cars for long periods Every Honda I’ve owned -2013 fit/02 civic and 09 civic automatics were 4 cyl engines non turbo had transmission issues around 120-140k miles with drain and fills (never flushed) every 40k miles at most. Ended up having the D (drive) light flashing randomly and had internal wear. The best Honda I had was my 1985 accord 5 speed cable clutch manual reached 450k miles on original trans and motor and sold running! Each Toyota I’ve had- 2010 matrix- now 2008 Yaris-07 rav4 and 09 tocoma have passed 200k miles absolutely trouble free Except for maybe a valve cover gasket and alternators . Each were also automatic

@commonsense5709

9 ай бұрын

I've also had many automatic Honda transmission problems from different Hondas. I refuse to buy any more Hondas with automatic transmissions ever and never buying any more Hybrid cars either. Had way better luck with Toyota brand regarding reliability.

In my household we own either Acura’s or Lexus’s. Obviously they’re luxury brands of both parent companies Honda and toyota. I’ve driven and owned acuras all my life. They’re more sportier and more aggressive/ sporty with their design vs Toyota products. I definitely appreciate Toyota products though. Their cars are super comfortable.. from their cabin, down to how they drive. It’s really up to the consumer at the end of they day. Do they prefer comfort or something that’s a little more fun to drive? Me personally i need something sporty so I always choose Hondas vs the other members of my family where they choose a more comfortable drive. To each their own. You can’t go wrong with either brand.

got a 21 camry...very nice car...the inside appear luxury .....and rides nice..no short wheel base suv

If I were in USA now, I would definitely buy a CAMRY so that I can feel secure and confident to drive around highways and country roads and interstate long distance travelling.

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

I like accord for long distance because you go higher speeds and it feels really a lot better in the wide sweeping bank turns etc.

My 1999 Corolla 4dr sdn CE still alive 392 000 miles .. need a new car

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

That’s a great run

My Camry I got in Hs I put over 80k miles on it and the times it was in the shop was to change the oil 😂 that’s why I’m sticking to what I know works and upgrading to the TRD now that I graduated college

How’s the Camry compare to a 2021 Chrysler 300s 3.6 I was looking at some Camrys but the interior styling and screen looks so cheap

Don’t forget the problems with the Honda Accord Forward Collision Warning System. My new 2022 kept panic stopping with no cars, trucks, people, dogs, shrubs, to the front or side of the car. The accelerator would not function even after the Accord was at a full stop. Even had the FCWS at lowest sensitivity. Honda has had recalls for FCW on earlier Accords. NTSB has 117 incidents where the 2022 Accords have stopped for no reason and experienced rear end collisions. Betcha Honda will have these Accords recalled for the faulty FCWs

My 2004 Toyota Camry, bought new, is still running great & hasn't had any major repairs! My biggest reason for not purchasing a Honda, instead, is their very inferior paint jobs! Over the years, I have seen older Honda's, having their entire car's body paint, fading badly, making the vehicle look shabby! All new cars should be required to have at least a 10 year 'bumper to bumper' warranty, including the paint job, against fading or chipping!

I guess it all comes to preference 🤷‍♂️ I personally don't like Toyota, had some problems with a couple of them. In the other hand Handa accord I love them all. I own a 2003 5 speed 2.4L just replace the spark plugs, going through my 3rd clutch, other than that just regular oil changes 280,000 and counting. 2020 Handa accord 2.0L turbo. For a 4 cylinders its a monster on the road love the looks of it. 😉👍🙋‍♂️

personally for a reliable every day people/grocery hauler you can't beat a Camry for the price though I've never ridden in an Accord or a Corolla sedan though I came home from the hospital as a newborn in a Toyota Corolla station wagon 38 years ago so I might be a bit biased my favorite American car in the segment is either a Chevrolet Malibu or a Buick Skylark though the later had previously been a larger boulevard cruiser type car

How do you all deal with the bouncy pounce feel if the Camry suspension while driving? It makes me uncomfortable. Been a Honda/Acura owner for the last 20 years and never had that issue. Should I go back to Honda? Please help…

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

Wait until honda gives us a 2.5L 4 cylinder and 3.5L v6 and competes eith camry fr fr snd starts driving these costs down when they cut deals to do stuff like use the same bolt in that one spot so the parts market is even broader.

I have a focus st it’s a freaking 🚀 23mpg , 120k miles and runs like a clock. German engine and transmission. I got lucky 🍀 oh, and I just picked up a Toyota grand highlander. Very happy with it not a hybrid version.

@ECPP

7 ай бұрын

Very nice!

My 2020 Camry has the same engine which is the very advanced "Dynamic Force" 2.5. It is very energy efficient and "no turbo."

I would pay now just $1200 to $1500 more for the Accord Hybrid or the Camry Hybrid. They are saving gas and very reliable. Honda will have a naturally 2L non-turbo engine and zero transmission. It just has a clutch at 40 MPH to engage the engine. The E-CVT for Camry is also very good and a no brainer upgrade from the gas only version.

@Jack-pd4ps

Жыл бұрын

I have the Camry Hybrid XLE and it does wonders! Also very smooth.

@brentharrington9235

Жыл бұрын

Hybrid adds unnecessary complexity for marginal MPG gains. Going from high 30's MPG to high 40;s isn't worth the risk to me.

@Jack-pd4ps

Жыл бұрын

@@brentharrington9235 Definitely understandable. Would you ever show up to the airport and get on an airline with a single engine?

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

​@@brentharrington9235 i agree. There is some trade offs though like usually they get rid of stuff like serpintine belts and the ecvt are not those trash band kinds but they are just gears. So in some aspects theyre actuually more reliable. Up until you need a battery or have to go into the engine too much... then it costs a fortune compared to s simple NA 4 banger or v6

@SSSocials

Ай бұрын

@@Jack-pd4psit is a car, not a plane. Big difference!😊

All the rich people in my area have these cars, I have a RWD IS350 and it’s the perfect daily.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Yes for sure

I agree with you for this. Honda accord failed a big time cuz of turbo engine, it s not reliable. Turbo made engine too hot and had a short life. I think. 😢

Accord 2.0T is the way to go for me. Better in performance while still being reliable and practical.

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

Reliable yes but not as reliable as my 2007 accord v6. Frankly I think theres a good chamce my 15 year old accord will still outlast it.

@allyance8846

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAnnoyingBoss Yeah man, old is gold. I myself own an Accord CL7 (2003), built to last.

@mickluke9228

9 ай бұрын

Yes I agree I have a 2003 cm6 Accord with the original automatic transmission still going strong, transmission fluid change every 50,000 km is very important. The car is 20 years old with over 240, 000 kilometres. It's still feels like I have over 240 horsepower under the bonnet. Great cheap car. The only problem I have had with the Accord is the solenoid on the starter motor. It still has the original alternator Touchwood

@mickluke9228

9 ай бұрын

PS. No oil lakes from the transmission and engine, and no oil consumption at all

My priority is price and reliability. Both are reliable. Accord sticker price is a few thousand higher. Accords have bigger screens but I prefer buttons and don't watch movies in my car. Ventilated seats would be nice but at what price? Which dealership will give me a hard time with negotiations and markups? Time is money too.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

They are great cars and might be worth it

How's the 8 speed? I've read they tend to have issues.

How are they in the snow?

I have to disagree, ive owned a honda accord for 2 years now, pushing 79k miles never had an isssues. Mines has a cvt, and i haven't experienced any faults or delays in it, they arent meant to be pushed hard.

@ECPP

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing

6:15 The auto is a regular 8-speed, not a CVT.

I prefer Hondas but for 2022, I would choose the Toyota. I don't like turbochargers as I want it to last 200,000 miles. My 2016 Accord is naturally aspirated. I will be switching to Toyota for my next car.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Turbos are great for the track but for long lasting dailies, not as much

@sk-un5jq

Жыл бұрын

Hybrid!

@TheAnnoyingBoss

Жыл бұрын

​@@sk-un5jq i dont want to replace an expensive battery after 15 years. My 2007 accord v6 is naturally aspirated 250 hp and i mever have to worry about critical components like.turbos and batteries failing. Not having them is lots saved that can be out into better engine components stock, or changing a plastic peiece for a higher quality material. So when my 15 year old accord turns 30 i have less buttons to replace like im doing now on my wonderful 2007 v6 accord sedan

@commonsense5709

9 ай бұрын

@@sk-un5jq I've owned 4 hybrid cars 3 Honda Civics and one Toyota Camry Hybrid and never again will I ever own another hybrid. Once the hybrid battery dies everything totally shuts off and the car becomes a real death trap of it quits right in the middle of a highway intersection especially at night. Not even the flashing hazards work or lights. Plus the $5000-$8500 replacement battery cost plus labor. The gas savings won't offset the replacement hybrid battery cost.

Wow peak hp at 6600 and torque at 5000 for the camry! I never really go over 3000 rpm! Thats the main reason I went for the turbo accord over the camry when both came out in 2018. Plus I think the camy looks a lil to ricey for me. I like the cleaner fastback euro look the accord has.

Camry is the pinnacle of reliability, Great choice.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

I have a 2024 se. bought off the lot. Cold weather package. I didn’t get push to start they only had keyed ignition Camrys. Its weird

Sounds like you made a good/well educated purchase.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

I really believe so

PTL. Why did Toyota go to CVT? Do theirs use a belt like the others? What is the reliability quotient? PTL

Accord generally has always driven nicer and sportier at the same time. Camry was generally for those who valued a soft and smooth ride. Recent accords have upscale interiors high quality interior that feel better than mainstream cars in class. Camry interiors have more going on with a busy design but it feels cheap on the inside. Camry feels less solid to the feel and drive. But Camry is less costly to run for maintenance than accord which should be maintained more rigidly. Both great cars but better depends one what you value most.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Cheers

@kiss-lips69

4 ай бұрын

Camry is the number one best selling car , year after year, where the accord sometimes gets in the top 5 but usually gets bet by the civic 😅

@philipjacob2314

4 ай бұрын

@@kiss-lips69 no doubt new camry buyers have max reliability and durability as their number one priority not on upscale interior and performance oriented ride/engineering. Accord is for a mid size buyer who is willing to sacrifice some reliability and durability for quality, engineering and a better driving experience over the standard options available in the cost. They still get a spacious interior and practicality but with a better driver’s experience.

@EchoAccord

2 ай бұрын

​@@kiss-lips69Who cares imo? Still a great car.

@kiss-lips69

2 ай бұрын

@@EchoAccord details matter, but some people don't care about wasting money 😳❓️

I just found your video and wow! Preaching to the choir!!! Seriously, we have a 2020 Accord Touring (2.0 turbo, being discontinued) that is coming off lease in May. We first checked out the 2023 Accord (no Touring models available until June). Sat in a Sport Hybrid model (one level below our Touring), and wow, smaller space in the front driver's seat than the 2020 version? WTF? Turns out, the upgraded Accords are now Hybrids. The battery packs are located under floorboard behind the front seats. So, the seat tracks were reduced, making legroom for the 6'3" driver very cramped. Then we asked about trade in value for our 2020 Touring (remember, no more 2.0 liter turbo engines). Got a figure and left dealership. Heading to our local Toyota dealership and sat in the XLE Camry (again, 2023, comparing XLE to Touring). What a difference. Camry has more legroom for driver. Plus, we can get an AWD (not available in Accords). We factory ordered a 2023 Camry XLE AWD (no sunroof) to replace our 2020 Accord. Oh, and the Toyota dealership also has an out-of-state Honda dealership, so they can take care of our lease (no costs to turn in a Honda), PLUS they are offering $2000 MORE for our 2020 Accord over the Honda Dealership! No more Honda, now we're Camry "to be" owners. Oh, and my 2022 Hyundai is a great little SUV (Kona Limited), but the infotainment is worse after a software update.

My OCD is in overdrive looking at that mud inside front fender behind the tire, lol

the 10gen accord 2.0 sport destroys the camry in every way except reliability, and they're nearly neck n neck in that regard. the accord is sexy and desirable with an exotic flair to a fault, as they are stolen more than most cars causing you to lose sleep. it's rims are the most stolen on the market. i get lambo attention in the 10gen, especially outside of nyc.

Made the same choice as well. Given the current upside-down car world, I went with the budget long term play and got a Camry. Plenty of power from a N.A. 4cyl that's gets high 30mpg...what's not to like? Accord has no AWD, and comes with a Turbo....no thanks.

@ECPP

Жыл бұрын

Great choice

Normally aspirated engine + traditional auto tranny VS small turbo + CVT.....Guess which one will last way longer? No contest here. Then again, one is more fun to drive than the other for sure. No contest here too.

@marklintwo

Жыл бұрын

Correct, Toyota Camry is more reliable, especially because it has both direct and port injection, no turbo, and no CVT.

Toyota didn’t used to have prop rods for the Camry hood. Not a deal breaker, but an annoying cost saving measure. Accord used them on their 4 cylinder cars but not on the sadly discontinued V6.