I feel like its should apply a heavy version of bleed on anything it hits. That way it can at least compete for the stun. Being like ok i hit a good throw on this charger and can count on it dying in 10-15 sec would be a nice tech

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

I'd be down for it to apply a heavy bleed!

So... As someone who occasionally tries to do missions in complete stealth plus the new changes to the crossbow, I've gotten quite a bit of uses from the knife. Being able to one shot devastators in the head and normal troopers anywhere without alerting 3 dropships coming your way, its worked wonders for me. Now stealth is already a pretty broken mechanic to begin with and the shit you can get away with stealth is absurd so the fact that you can get "stealth" kills with crossbow and the knife without spawning a drop ship pretty damn nice. Was able to finally solo a lv 9 mission with it, crossbow, and AMR. Now I just need a pistol with a silencer.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

You're one of the rare ones. We only go loud since stealth is such a weird way to play a game like this. But hey, if it's working for you. Enjoy

@ezzy0308

Ай бұрын

Could it be cause he solo'd stealth instead of using stealth in a team setting? ​@@RealAsianRobot

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

@ezzy0308 Soloing stealth or team stealth are both valid tactics. I just find it weird not to go loud in a shooty game haha, but hey, if someone finds a use for this knife, then it's something at least!

@mikedicarlis6654

Ай бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot then youll be dissappointed when they released silenced weapons and probably call them 'mid' also

@jasonbrown6604

Ай бұрын

I think one of the pistols has an almost.mute sound profile ? P something

We need a separate melee slot not replace thowables

Its wild to me that Arrowhead thinks they fixed the spawn rates

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Yeah it seems a little wild right now tbh

I like it for the mere fact that it can kill chargers. It allows me to use one my favorite stratagems (Stalwart) which struggles against chargers.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

If that's what you want to use it for, go ahead lol. I'll stick to my properly efficient loadouts haha.

I think it sould be neat if it didnt do much damage to body/head BUT maybe it was EXTRA good at taking out arms and legs! So then it would be "cleaving" them off, cause its a knife....

I don't think there's a good way to balance these while keeping them "realistic". Because the obvious mechanical niche for a single target utility weapon would be high damage+high penetration (something we thought the thermite was going to be) I could also see it as is but only with a lot more more carried since you can do the same job as 8 knives with one impact grenade. Maybe a little more penetration?

I don’t think knife can compete with grenades. It would be better as a backup to grenades after they run out. Or they could occupy a new melee slot. Would be pretty neat to see that happen.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

It would be nice as a backup

It's meant to be for stealth, so is the armour, I mean... neither punching the enemy nor the knife can alert troops. Obviously it is not for everybody but it gives solo players a way to complete missions without necessarily engege in combat. Taking them and then be loud it's gonna look silly. For instance the crossbox explosion alerts troops of your presence but not your position. Generally you can have them go check it out, use that time to complete the mission and kill any straggler with the knife.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

It wasn't meant for stealth. That's literally everyone's justification for it, but their own trailer blog mentioned nothing with regards to stealth. People are just trying to justify a meme weapon. And quite frankly this game does not need "solo stealth" players. It's a team game, you're supposed to play it as a team and clear missions quickly and efficiently. I just feel that they have honestly failed to make a viable weapon so now all their "fans" are trying to say it was meant for stealth. This then screws over the majority who are playing the game as intended. For that reason it is difficult for me to justify "stealth" players unless they can prove they are just as efficient at banking liberation as team based players.

Its actually meta for team kills! It can go through the personal shield!

@Nerdnumberone

Ай бұрын

Somebody on Reddit wondered if this means it would bypass Illuminate shields when they inevitably show up. Nobody expects the knife-throwing monkeys!

@berserkerpride

Ай бұрын

How very Dune.

Better off to keep a power fantasy going rather than making shit "realistic" to where it turns into a MEME. Also the increase of monster has been in the Medium armor area.. for both Automatons and Bugs... the knife is a MEME no matter how others try to justify it.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Don't I know it haha. Peeps still trying to justify 🤣🤣

I think it should: 1 shot headshot all but heavy armor Be able to be picked back up Maybe ammo down from 8 to 6

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

If it could be retrieved then 4 ammo is enough to balance it, but yeah it's kinda mid right now

The knife kills chargers with 4 throws to leg?! lol so you are saying the velocity of your toss is higher than any 4 AR rounds? 😂

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Yup lol

Who brings a knife to a grenade fight? 🤷

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Stealth divers

Welp at the very least it's a fun little way to clean up botched charger kills in a pinch... it's probably gonna catch a nerf for that though

@Nerdnumberone

Ай бұрын

I really hope they don't nerf a gimmick weapon like this. If anything, making it effective in stealth, recoverable, and possibly even have it improve melee damage when equipped.

i think the knife is going to pierce illuminate shields

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Aight, fingers crossed

Knives for Illuminate shields probably.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Well let's hope it does that

Just make the throwing knife a rechargeable throwable

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

It would be OP if it was. I think they should do that haha

It can 4 shot chargers wow.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Yes lol

saying mid is being nice..

It should have been a throwable one-shot medium armor penetrating 🛡️ stagger/stun 💫 stealth 🥷🏽 bleed 🩸 kill to all small and medium armor enemies because it doesn't have an AOE effect or a linger effect like grenades, it should kill over time in one shot or just straight up kill. And it's ridiculous that it has heavy armor penetrating for the charger because that doesn't make any sense. And it should replace your melee bash to a knife stab with triple the damage to your melee as long as you have one knife in your inventory. I think it should be super effective against nursing spewers and bile spewers because it should be like popping a balloon 🎈 with a knife 🔪

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

Lol I agree believe me. The knife is just weird right now

Knife was a bad idea, least they could have done was make it a neurotoxin injector or a tazer

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

That would have been fun though

You can kill everything everything on the bug side with the knife except for the bile titan. Scavengers, shriekers, hive guard, warrior, pouncer, hunter, maybe stalker? Bile spewers, nursing spewers, and, of course, the charger. It's meant for stealth or if you have like 2-3 enemies left. You're treating it like a grenade

@berserkerpride

Ай бұрын

Killing the charger has to be a bug though. And to kill commander / hive guard it takes 3. Now compare that to the damage of 2 impact grenades.

@The_Holy_Fox

Ай бұрын

@@berserkerpride If killing the charger isn't a bug though that would be great. Gotta take advantage of that before it gets fixed I forgot to put in the brood commander, it does indeed take 3 hits. The hive guard however, can bleed out after a second hit. The grenades will definitely be objectively be better, but using the throwing knife just looks so satisfying. I'll probably use that all the time. It just seems so much better to me I don't usually comment much, but when I do, it's more out of annoyance. In the case of this video, it feels like he's complaining about the knife than giving actual facts. I know complaining is warranted, but man, I'm tired of it. Even I complain, but I've barely done that. I think I only complained in game to myself like 2-3 times since the launch of the game. I complained only like 2 or 3 times so far and that was yesterday I think. It's tiring to hear nearly everyday

@frank-b6169

Ай бұрын

Its in the grenade slot man.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

It is literally in the grenade slot. If you're commenting out of annoyance. Then simply don't watch me. The knife is mid and realistically useless in any actual combat.. I challenge any knife wielder to beat missions faster than my team does when we do full on Helldives on the bug side. If a weapon cannot be efficient. Then people are going to complain, being a fan of the game and the studio won't change that. It also won't change the immediate disinterest of many players in this patch and the things added. If we want this game to be "great" instead of good. Then we need to test every release and see if it can create a viable new loadout for top tier gameplay. If it cannot, then it's literally another "fun" option which people aren't going to pick and which they will use for a few meme runs and then never touch again.

@The_Holy_Fox

Ай бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot I am aware of that... but it's a knife. I'm trying to avoid you, but you guys are one of the few people that does give out some level of information. Mid, probably, useless? No. It can still take out a charger. If It is a bug, which I'm really hoping is not, then it will definitely be less useful. I'd still rock the knife which is more personal preference since I love stealth weapons. Okay, now you got me curious. I can sometimes do a full clear with randoms in like 20-25 minutes. How fast do you guys do it? 10-20 minutes? Hold on, did you even do a poll to see if the majority even liked it or hated it? Another thing, don't people like fun? Seeing as how it's more useful against the bugs, I can imagine a decent amount of people picking it.

Game has lost its alure, too much medling by Devs that are obsessed with Players changing load outs constantly rather than just letting us have some fun. Also the Passive is totally useless when there is NO actual melee mechanics in the game other than a gun but slap mechanic. Dumb

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

I feel that

Disagree. It’s pretty solid! It can headshot devastators once you get the hang of it. It’s 250 damage and AP of 3.

@Suhayl_Khatib

Ай бұрын

But still a solid video! ☺️

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

If you like it, use it. But I am doubtful it will ever be anything more than a meme tbh.

@Suhayl_Khatib

Ай бұрын

@@RealAsianRobotoh I’m sure it most definitely is a meme, it’s a throwing knife against bugs that come at you in waves and bots that shoot lasers and missles at you. But it does have a pretty solid use case in stealth. Especially with eagle smoke and orbital stun.

@RealAsianRobot

Ай бұрын

@Suhayl_Khatib fair enough. It's a playstyle I don't use and wouldn't use in a game like this. So I can't see the benefits from that approach I suppose haha

@Suhayl_Khatib

Ай бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot oh yeah! Personally while I won’t and wouldn’t recommend running it exclusively because other grenades have better uses (unless you’ve mastered it and the arc it has), it’s still fun. Brings back the old cod days lol.