So I've read some comments here already and my opinion on it is that the stratagem could see some changes. This is not the final version as mentioned. I think it would be nice if they could add some sort of "incendiary rain" to the flare. Wherever you shoot it, it would light up the area while also raining down fire within a certain radius.

@Sky-Bananas

6 күн бұрын

@@GlitchUnlimited I feel like that would defeat the purpose of the flare. They could add to it without making it do too much, and I think it’d be enough as long as it remains passive

Quick note for the Orbital flare boys you shouldn't forget that in the first game there where planets that had the natural even "Solar eclipse" which made plunged the map in complete darkness, the only light source are your flashlights so the flare being in the works suggests this planetary event is possibly coming

@GlitchUnlimited

8 күн бұрын

Automaton with their red eyes in the dark... that will be chilling!

@basileusgaming7047

8 күн бұрын

On certain planets there are solar eclipses. They do indeed make the map dark but not pitch black

@Maxxx5240

7 күн бұрын

Dont fire until you can see the red of their eyes!

@epicgamer7579

7 күн бұрын

them bringing back a proving ground event would be pretty cool

@-Arv

7 күн бұрын

There are solar eclipses in H2 aswell. Thought it was a bug at first because of how everything got dark all of the sudden. But it's a really cool feature!

If the flare can attract the attention of enemies, it might be very viable for stealth builds, especially with Automatons

@GlitchUnlimited

8 күн бұрын

I cannot remember the armor but there is a passive that would help with that.

@dylanisntvibing

8 күн бұрын

@@GlitchUnlimitedScout armor? I think it's the trailblazer one

@Sarge94

8 күн бұрын

Holy cow, that would be amazing for stealth, especially combined with trailblazer, infiltrator or other stealth armors.

@GlitchUnlimited

8 күн бұрын

Yup that is it! "Reduces range at which enemies can detect the wearer by 30%."

@Le0_0-

8 күн бұрын

Flare > Attract a huge group of enemies > enjoy your 380mm or your conveniently placed hellbomb.

The flare is automatically granted to you on a nighttime mission, or on planets with bad visibility. And it attracts enemies. Depending on the range of said attraction, this might revolutionize stealth. And I’m all for it

Before they add any new ship mods I wanna see a "training" option that acts as a shooting range where you can basically drop into the intro part and can test out all the weapons/strats...it'd be an easier build since they already have that built out from the beginning...just gotta tweak the functionality

@depressedespresso3928

6 күн бұрын

Like a room on the ship where you can shoot your equipped weapon, that's all I ask

7:54 so essentially all of the good updates are happening because of the small team of developers working during summer vacay.

@braixendon5496

8 күн бұрын

Essentially because Alexus is absent

@GlitchUnlimited

7 күн бұрын

That's gotta be the most disliked Dev. I see his name everywhere and no one has anything positive to say about him.

@IRMentat

7 күн бұрын

@@GlitchUnlimited Alexus is a cause, not a person. the "standardisation-team" even to now have only cut away interesting features and never added one in or back. The closest we have had is the xbow getting a bug/factory-hole closer or the railgun nerfs being slowly and steadily rolled back because the initial nerf was UTTERLY POINTLESS (but the gunships and ATAT stats were insanely over-buffed specifically against the railgun andn n0o other weapon). but the slugger remains a worthless downgrade of the JAR the railgun was MASSIVELY under-tuned with the introduction of the gunships and ATAT-weapons (not even the main body it takes 45+ seconds 9+-shots to take out a SINGLE sub-gun/gunship using an OVERCHARGED heavy-pen railgun while med-2 support weapons can take them out in 1-3 seconds and 2-5 shots) and remains worthless versus "radiator" weakpoints. the eruptor because of the ammo & AoE nerfs is less-useful than even the liberator-lineup of shelf-fillers. 1 shot per 2 seconds, terrible handling and 65 shots in total any one of which can delete your own HPO but struggle to AoE down more than 1-2 baby-bugs due to the AoE-propagation nerfs. the heavy-support weapons are in a constant state of 1-2 of them being broken/useless (now it's the quaso's turn as it's 18-21 seconds PER SHOT unless in a cold-environment, then it's "only" 15. Tbh the battery powered weapons in general are in a weird state, blitzer loves to target corpses, arcgun likewise and still has thge nerfed range from when it got butchered "for slapping bile titans across the map"... quaso is a REALLY slow-to-fire weapon despite every enemy that it's supposed to go up against needing 2-3 shots to kill and having insta/combo/ragdoll/AoE-kill weapons that can cross-map most helldivers. IMO give them an overheat/unsafe mechanic like the railgun and let them burst-fire 2-4 rounds but too many in too short a time and you go boom (preferably with the option to drop the damned things and GTFO before it "booms" as i don't like instakill mechanics from player-gear but the weapon exploding due to an unstoppable overheat/chain-reaction is a neat idea). Hell at this point the HMG has been out 2-3 months now? and it's red-dot sight is STULL UPSIDE-DOWN. It's not "bore axis" if ti was then the bullet would align to the signt at a specific fiixed/pre-determined range the devs simply put the red-dot decal on the weapon upside-down and NEVER fixed it (made all the worse in that the HMG red-dot isn't centered in the scope it's off-set by 10-15% making it 30% off-setto he bullet's initial "point blank"/flat trajectory ballistic path.

@braixendon5496

7 күн бұрын

@@GlitchUnlimited he has tried his level best to convince everyone that POLAR PATRIOTS was completely fine on release. He quite literally said, and i quote: “All the weapons in the warbond are S tier”

We’re just gonna ignore the venerator class star destroyer in that flare clip?

@Rysdad1

7 күн бұрын

I have them nodded into my game and LAAT's as my drop ship

@Spendingryan

7 күн бұрын

Yeah, it would make more sense if the acclamator class replaced the helldivers ship rather than the venator class, the acclamator is a ground Invasion ship, the venator is more of a aircraft carrying battleship.

I'd love to see a Laser Shotgun or Plasma SMG for the next primaries in a future warbond. Even an Incendiary Pistol would be interesting to try and dethrone Incendiary Breaker as the King Bug primary but opening up new load outs. Custom Loadouts as a UI feature would be cool, but you'd need quite a few (Probably 8-10). Bugs, bots, planet modifiers, missions types, and ally loadouts all play a big factor. In the theme of the distraction flare, a Jamming Stratagem would be kind of cool. In an AoE it would prevent reinforcements and bug breaches, enemy spawns from holes and fabricators, as well is disorienting local enemies. One thing that really needs to be addressed with the possibility of the Illuminate return, is how effectively the reduced player base will be able to achieve objectives now. The formula that determines holds, defenses, liberatons, etc, will need to be made a little more forgiving, and not so skewed that a few thousand Divers have no shot of Liberating a world in a day or two.

@GlitchUnlimited

8 күн бұрын

Plasma SMG sounds immaculate and powerful.

@xenocide1307

8 күн бұрын

@@GlitchUnlimited That whole weapon category needs some love. The nerf to the Pummeler was absolutely unwarranted. Fix the Ballistic Shield and buff SMGs.

@potterabroad2126

7 күн бұрын

@@xenocide1307 I 100% agree the smgs are quite literally useless at the moment

@TequalHC

7 күн бұрын

Trident and Tanto (not a plasma smg but a powerful laser beam)

@lemonsnickers86

7 күн бұрын

Just duct tape three scythes together

i never had the loading bug until one day i said something about never having it and then boom there it was

I wish they'd bring back Random Load out. You got a Bonus in the first game and you didn't choose what you got.

I was just talking about this. In the military the flare was used to see the enemy at night and for distraction and a signal for others to your location that the enemy is at that site. So cool.

Don't really care about having loadouts, but what I wish we could do is organize the stratadms in a particular order when selected them. Like I want all the sentries together all the machine guns together all the airstrikes together like just a little more organization

I think a loud out system would decrease the use of less used stratagems even further. So I personally hope we never get that. People would unerringly press the “meta loaudout button” and ready up instantly with no time to talk stats.

There’s also a bug that wastes entire magazines if you are holding the trigger down before you are finished reloading

I think the priority should be making helmets and capes actually do something positive for the diver.

@aarondesch

8 күн бұрын

no, then we'll have a bunch of ""meta" builds of mismatched armor combos that look ugly together. the way it currently is you get the one passive perk, then you pick what looks good with it

@demonseed1995

8 күн бұрын

@@aarondeschI like the idea the devs had for different HUD’s for the helmets

@Sky-Bananas

8 күн бұрын

@@demonseed1995honestly that sounds like a good middle ground

@CloneLoli

7 күн бұрын

Just helmets please, Capes should be pure style.

@hitandruncommentor

7 күн бұрын

Agreed. They keep upping the difficulty so we need more perks.

I agree with you about the ship. Maybe some trophie cases, lore. Wallpapers. Armor mannequins.

It’s pissing me off that people still don’t seem to understand how liberating planets work and they don’t get the planets that would get multiple planets

Ngl, flare is gona be useles unles its primary strategem, like suply drop

@emojothejojo

8 күн бұрын

It will be one of those. Also, I think, like said in the video, we could get darker planets

@jeb6869

8 күн бұрын

Its probably gonna be a get out of combat card like smoke

@JohnSmith-tt2tu

6 күн бұрын

It should light up everything like in real life.

There was a bug last week during a mission when I played with another 3 people where the Encrypted SSSD that was being carried any one of the squad mate got thrown on the ground due to to an explosion that killed the squad member however after respawning and coming the location to pickup the SSSD package, it seemed like the package was stuck in the ground geometry and could not be retrieved. We even tried using strategums like 500KG Bomb or even Orbital Laser to get it out. But it was stuck into the grounder some reason, I even tried to go into prone/crouch position from different angles near the package and still it would not show the option to pickup the package! BTW this was in an Automaton controlled territory.

As an OG Hell Diver, this is exciting...the DARKNESS IS COMING!

Hopefully they add an Eagle anti-air stratagem in the future to take care of the flying patrols and bot drops we don’t want to deal with.

Honestly, some planets have such trash visibility that I think the flares make tons of sense. Think of how illumination flares are used in wartime where soldiers don't have night vision optics (hey arrowhead.... helmet mod here!) - flares are used to illuminate the enemy, which increases their visibility and decreases any their ability to see. I would 100% take these on night missions, and honestly would want a flare gun secondary or grenade.

Orbital flare concept: lights up dark areas,distract opponents, reduced impact time for orbital stragems while its active. ( Like 380mm gets tighter spread and comes in quicker)

I wish they had a decoy available as an option. It would help with getting out of trouble or just to be more stealthy. Especially for the bugs.

Orbital Illumination flare was also in the strategem hero game! I got a recording of me being confused

Another useful stratagem just like smoke

@GlitchUnlimited

8 күн бұрын

I don't think I've seen anyone use a Smoke stratagem ever even the grenades too. I mean maybe it's good solo but I can't imagine so.

@nicolasguiem7369

8 күн бұрын

Sarcasm

@joeykelly5642

8 күн бұрын

I’m one of the three people who have ever used the Eagle Smoke. Sometimes I’ll take it on bot elimination missions to temporarily remove 1/3 of the enemies from the picture while I deal with the other 2/3 first. It’s also good for coverage while getting your support weapon, or to blanket extraction if it’s swarmed with heavies. I doubt it’s decent on any objective with a normal-sized map.

@demonseed1995

8 күн бұрын

It does have a solid projectile that is strong enough to destroy stuff 🤷‍♂️

@ghostlyswat12

8 күн бұрын

Smokes useful if your doing a stealth build

Without a near blackout effect on the map it would be difficult to bring a non damaging or defense boosting strat. It would need to have a very strong distraction effect to break through that

Well I coulda told them the loading bug is related to party comp. It only ever happened to me when someone leaves

is that a venator class destroyer in the sky during the orbital flare demonstration ???

@Spendingryan

7 күн бұрын

I noticed that lol, having the acclamator class in the game makes more sense as the acclamator is a ground attack/Invasion warship rather than the venator class for modding the ships, I love helldivers ships and star wars ships, especially the giant dorito battleship.

If the flare has a taunt ability could be great for helping mortars survive against chargers and biles.

Really hope we can get a loadout tabs to quick swap gear. Ive got about 5 different "Builds" that I use often depending on the enemy and what is working atm.

I still say having an exact loadout for each mission type would cause burnout faster. Cause thats already a big thing with hd2. If we ever get to customize guns in hd2 i could see it being more advantageous to have loadouts... but if not it only takes a few seconds to get your loadout put together as is. I can have mine done in like 20-30 seconds

0:54 is… is that a Venator from star wars?

@Pamba4

8 күн бұрын

It’s a mod

I'm still waiting for them to add in specific enemies such as spewers into the map description. I hate loading into a match, not knowing if I have to worry about them and not bringing the proper gear to democratize our enemies.

I can see the flare being used as much as the smoke. Which is almost never.

With the new Eagle and Global Cooldown modules, full eagle stratagem loadout should be meta for bugs. Bots still have their AA encampments.

The illuminate better come out before September because I probably will never hop back on this game once Space Marine 2 drops

@JohnSmith-tt2tu

6 күн бұрын

Same tbh

Flare will probably be something are given based on the mission.

It would be amazing if the flare could confuse drop ships and delay the bot drop

I think it’s funny that if the loading screen takes more then 2 min some people leave and then it’s even funnier when as soon as they leave the game loads but stratagem looks cool

Who doesn’t want custom loadout slots? Really - I’d like to know. I want them because the icons for armor pieces and primary / secondary weapons take AGES to load for some reason, and having to wait for that is a huge inconvenience for the people I queue up with. Even if we can’t set default stratagems I’d at least like some armor/weapon combo slots

Would be down for some type of laser AMR with a similar charge mechanism to the blitzer lightning shotgun.

If they make it much brighter then ima be exited, big ww1 vibes

The illumination flare was leaked back to be free when you are fighting in the night

so ive been wondering for the past few months if itd be possible to have a favorite system. like you favorite armour or weapons and can pick from those instead of EVERYTHING cause theres just...soo much. i love it! but...god theres so much! hearing about a possible loadout instead has me hyped!! its like what i was thinking could be added but better! set a few up for bot missions some for bugs! i cant wait to see it come to the game at some point!

I wonder if due to seaf requirement levels reaching the right levels if we’ll see that seaf leaked stratagem come out at some point soon

Just let us favourite our 10 top strats. That way it’s easier to pick. This should be extremely easy to do.

i run the same loadout 90% of runs. only thing that tends to change is on if i bring a backpack or weapon, the rest are "any use case" items. not much reason to change it up most times unless i want to bring a red-boom build which again wouldn't change around much given there's a set of generally useful strats and most of the rest are too specific outside of certain mission types (120/380/walking/airburst/non-heavy-pen-support-weapons-vbs-bugs/-non-med2-pen-vs-bots/railgun-that-NEEDS-buffs-vs-gunships-ATAT-guns-and-turrets) or are outright useless in their current iterations (mech/mines/smoke)

Honestly a eclispe type modifier where a nearby moon blocks the sun would be AWEOMSE

I imagine putting saved loadouts in the game isnt as simple as just making a new menu screen for it. They probably just shelved it for now until they have the time to spend making it work

It would be cool to fight bug in clompete darkness and the only source of light is your flashlight Horror mode, all dark, bugs hunting you from everywhere

I want them to fix the spawn glitch when joining another's ship, you get stuck inside a railed-off section and have to wait to get pulled into the pods to get freed. And what about the reload glitch? I still will load a fresh mag and suddenly have only 1 shot left before a reload. :\

So its the distraction beacon but with a twist

They should have a flare gun as a secondary or used in the grenade slot.

God forbid I’m forced to go to Fori Prime again or any planet with that biome, I will for sure bring the flare stratagem. In daylight, I literally cannot see 2 feet in front of my character when I’m in the shadow of a mountain or something, it’s a little unreasonable even

The orbital illumination flare will be automatically brought with you on some missions

I’d love to see a Super Destroyer food court

It will come in handy for those super dark planets

I cant believe they nerfed the upgrade terminal

that flare had better be a party-strat not one needed to be taken individually.

The only loadout feature I care about is the armor with my weapon and grenade options. It won't be a make or break for me if they don't include the strategems. I do routinely change my strategems based on my mood, so I can understand not including those in the load outs, but having to routinely swap my gear between bots and bugs gets a bit annoying as I don't regularly deviate from my typical loadout.

i feel like the saved loadouts should be a ship upgrade and not just given to us.

it would be fun for stealth 4 player build playstyle

Orbital flare desperately needs to be a planetary mod. Just like the weapon experimentation, but the experiments need to actually affect the guns at some point like upgrades they can think of

glad to know that now my flare will have a 10% bigger explosion after the new upgrade

Dark planets awesome. Need terrible eyesight challenged even more.

Flare would be handy as a additional layout for dark maps

the gun bug is semi-harmless... certain weapons can obstruct your view of a terminal

Omg this is perfect, we lack distractions lol

0:57 eh?... A New destroyer?

Ooo! plain dark planet sounds sick! although it would be hard as hell. 😅

I thought i saw a SR71 in the thumbnail at first

I literally suggested this in the subreddit

I'd love to see a strider vehicle for us aswell. Like an AT-TE from the clone wars. I imagine we unlock it by destroying a set number of factory striders in an MO and Super Earth engineers repurpose those scrapped striders into a massive war machine for the Helldivers.

@RHaenJarr

8 күн бұрын

I'd prefer a two-legged one. Really liked them in the old Battlefront 2

Anyone else getting pissed at "Joel"? when I went to bed last night we had just handily defended two planets next to X-45 (Vega Bay and Meissa) I just checked and both are already under attack again and now we're on track to lose both. let us fucking breathe

Dear god the squids are gonna brain wash the kids we might not be saving them

2:04 This gameplay sums up rocket/shield devastators in 3 seconds...

@GlitchUnlimited

8 күн бұрын

It's rough lol just spammed with rockets. I wonder if they there should be a limit to how many rockets those bots have.

@McSpicyYT

7 күн бұрын

@@GlitchUnlimited I think the shield and rocket devastators need to have a distance accuracy falloff. Like less accuracy from farther ranges, if that makes sense. Because sometimes you get through just fine, and other times you get turned into mince meat or flung miles away without being able to do much about it.

flare goes up, enemies see it... "LAMP"

opinion on railcannon and eagle rockets?

The problem is, not everyone talks about their strategems and what role they are going to play, I.E. anti tank, crowd control, support. I think only a niche few would use this and a great man tai once said "might Vs light, I would rather have another gun then a flashlight anyday "

Why is there a Venator Star Destroyer from Star Wars in the Thumbnail?

If they try and make a donation to the Boy Scouts…I ain’t saving em.

A flare gun stratagem or incendiary grenade pistol would go crazy

@GlitchUnlimited

8 күн бұрын

There's actually a Flamethrower pistol from Helldivers 1 and hopefully that add that to the next warbond.

@charazanble1439

7 күн бұрын

@GlitchUnlimited Hey, maybe we could see the Railgun Turrets make a return too, who knows.

I know it’ll be a big ask but imagine a mission where you go underground in a bug nest that’s pitch black and you can only see using flashlights or flares that replace your grenade and light up an area for a few minutes

@WisdomThumbs

8 күн бұрын

Missions like that would be the perfect implementation of difficulties Lvl 10-12. You can’t use most stratagems when raiding inside a deep bug hive, Illuminate warp gate, or Automaton capital ship.

@Joe-ve9xz

8 күн бұрын

@@WisdomThumbs it would make the walkers more practical as well, give them big floodlights and your team can use it to see farther in the caves

@WisdomThumbs

8 күн бұрын

@@Joe-ve9xz The walkers do have big headlights, but I can’t turn them off or shoulder-switch on controller.

imagine having to use a flare for light instead of NVGs that have been around since the 80s

@BenDover-812mne

7 күн бұрын

Imagine thinking nods are cool when they’re not

IMO loadouts would be amazing for solo play. In terms of squad I think the loadouts would aim to isolate each player instead of using team work. Generally I join other groups so I like to be their support, making loadouts based on what ur team has is unique and fun to me..but for solo play hell yeah loadouts Please!!!

1% of these leaks actually end up happening, thats all this is - overhype that leads to nerfs and bugs, while we wait for the fix. Rinse and repeat. These youtubers just gotta pop out their vids (which I respect)..lol havent seen a vehicle or a new race since you first leaked it in april. This game is dying, it was poorly mismanaged, even with all the communication from devs.

The flare is going to be another filler strat, emp and smoke also have a niche use but nobody uses them, unless they force you tu use by adding these dark planets I can say for sure it's is just going to become another under used under performing strat

They need to adjust these time settings for strategyms and centuries I feel like I'm getting cheated

Why don't we have some kind of small Firing range to shoot and test guns and nads on the Ship?.. And if one of your buddy's gets a little Too friendly with his Fire, they can just thaw out another Cadet 😅

@GlitchUnlimited

8 күн бұрын

It would be nice if the battle station was not a clan station but instead is a fire range! :)

The best news is the top 2 trouble making trash mods at the discord are no longer mods.

Was his rocket launcher shooting hellbombs?

I think load outs would be a waste for time for the developers. Sure, you could quickly choose your load out and be ready to go, but there is always that one person in the lobby that takes forever to choose their load out.

I susoect the flare will be one of those strategems everyone wants everyone else to bring.

@emojothejojo

8 күн бұрын

It will be automatically brought with you on missions

@imjustsaiyan7450

8 күн бұрын

@@emojothejojo ah nice, free stuff

We really don’t need custom loads unless we can change our load out mid mission, which meh

I thought the developers said they’re scrapping the loadouts

@GlitchUnlimited

8 күн бұрын

I guess it was put to the side temporarily so they can focus on quality patches and new content.

Man I want some fkin Ice planets. Need my dose of Lost Planet copium

@GlitchUnlimited

8 күн бұрын

I can just imagine myself sliding across some ice right into bunch of Terminids lol and with that being said I'd like to see it too!

*Darkness planets would be AMAZING.*

@GlitchUnlimited

8 күн бұрын

Darkness modifier is going to be intense. Imagine Automatons...

Wheres my APC?!?!?! my feet are tired from picking up these samplesss

@saltwatertaffybag

8 күн бұрын

It's been confirmed that vehicles were scrapped because Sony pushed the deadline.

@shank1013

7 күн бұрын

@@saltwatertaffybag blasphemy, soruce?

I hope that's not what we get...