Hellboy - What's the Difference?
Correction: Hellboy came out in 2004, not in 2006. Our bads!
Correction 2: This is Von Krupt, not Von Klempt.
In the age of reboots, nothing is safe, even Hellboy. Before we get into the weeds of the differences between the two buff devil men, we're here to ask, "What's the difference between Mike Mignola's graphic novel and Guillermo Del Toro's Hellboy?"
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Del Toro is one of those creators who genuinely tries to understand the spirit of a project. I hope one day he makes a live action remake of the Gargoyles.
@robertmaniac
5 жыл бұрын
Wow I didn't knowI need a Guillermo del Toro version of Gargoyles.
@GabrielKnightz
5 жыл бұрын
It's right up his street too, sentient, eloquent "monsters", deep lore and history rich in Arthurian legends, one of The most charming animated bad guys that can put Lex Luthor to shame, haunting visuals. All of it set in a gentle hearted kids cartoon with deep, dark overtones. If the studios let him do it his way.......i don't know how to type that finger tips kiss thing that tv chefs do but That!
@robertombricen7966
5 жыл бұрын
Oh yes please, the magic on that!
@alpacapines8553
5 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck I need that
@XkuronekosamaX
5 жыл бұрын
Despite the visual accuracy of the film I think del Toro failed to transmit the "spirit", as you say, of the comic, in the first Hellboy film there are plenty of errors protraying the characters and more than a handfull of problems in the script. The FBI agent has more time on screen than Abe and it is insufferable, Hellboy itself is very bad written in the movie, way too childish for a near 50 year old man, fuck that scene with the kid, the cookies and the milk on the rooftop where the kid advices him is the worst "character development" moment I ever seen
In the comics the public are aware of Hellboy, but his adventures often take place in hidden, ancient temples and strange forrests. Whereas, in the Del Toro movies Hellboy's identity is initially secret, but he operates mostly in New York city.
@zionleach3001
2 жыл бұрын
That's something I always wondered how does the overall world treat supernatural creatures? You don't see them socializing with humans. Are they just unaware of the supernatural.
@michaelkelley2727
11 ай бұрын
being secretive makes more sense. working in the shadows, but at the same time saving lives
There's nothing wrong with taking bits and pieces from the comic books and turning it into a badass movie.
One more thing. Abe Sapiens. n the movie, he is a quirky, awkward empath with no fighting capabilities. In the comics, he's an action badass taking down dire threats on his own. He and Hellboy have roughly the same relationship, Hellboy saved him from the Bureau's experimentation, like he saved all sapient "abnormals" the Bureau found, and there is a mutual respect and understanding. In the comic book though, Abe is also Hellboy's disciple and the reason he stays in the Bureau at first. While Hellboy treats him as an equal and his own man, Abe admire him as a mix of a father figure and a moral compass.
@jarredmorris9749
3 жыл бұрын
yeah Abe is way better in the comics imo
@Contevent
3 жыл бұрын
@@jarredmorris9749 I completely agree. I love movie Abe mind you, he's just not the same character. I love the fishman commando.
@jarredmorris9749
3 жыл бұрын
@@Contevent he's definitely an endearing character for sure. I love his stoic nature and overall look in the comics more. Gotta love Doug Jones though
Surprised you guys didn't mention how Abe is basically a new character in the movie, since in the comics he's not the quite soft type with a psychic touch, he's a just a fish that with his wits, his fists and sometimes a gun, which makes his the BPRD's second best field agent behind Hellboy
@Gadget-Walkmen
3 ай бұрын
To say he's "just a fish" is a MASSIVE lie as a psychic with paranormal skills and knowledge to handle threats. And to say he's " BPRD's second best field agent behind Hellboy" is NO small feat considering how massively skilled Hellboy is!
You forgot to mention that Hellboy's character differs a lot from the comics . In the movies, Hellboy is somewhat a teenager , trying to find a place in this world . In the comics he is an adult that doesn't talk much and basically deals with more adult themes .
@CarReckless
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah now that I think about it , I phrased that really poorly . But movie hellboy does quite differ from the comics .
@andresanguianozuniga6798
5 жыл бұрын
The attitude yes...the thing of fightning against he is the key of the Apocalypse not.
@laciehinds7768
5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Warwee that’s what the reboot is missing, also...no, he doesn’t even fit the teen persona :T
@baonkang5990
5 жыл бұрын
Lol he does have that I am too old for this shit look in the comics
@panelsandbars1529
5 жыл бұрын
Glad somebody else said his! Big fan of the movies, but the characterization is completely different between the two mediums.
One thing that helped in the original HELLBOY films is that Comic Creator and Artist Mike Mignola worked closely with Del Toro so that the film and characters felt like the comic counterparts. Mignola himself said that he based Hellboy from Ron Perlman himself and couldn't think on anyone else playing the role.
@michaelkelley2727
11 ай бұрын
he based hellboy off his dad not ron Perlman
@EternalRoman
11 ай бұрын
@@michaelkelley2727 Actually if you look up the behind the scenes of Hellboy, Mike Mignola said that when he drew Hellboy, the character was looking like Ron Perlman, and he had made the comment about it. So when he and Del Toro were working on casting the role, both of them said "Ron Perlman". Look it up, those are not my words, they are both Mignola's and Del Toro's words.
And this is why Del Toro and Perlman made the best kind of Hellboy movie, they took inspiration from the source and made something badass with it. This other movie looks like something Michael Bay would've filmed. -_-
Hellboy just won't be the same without Rom Pearlman as Red. This is the perfect example of a reboot that nobody wanted or asked for.
@Lazypackmule
5 жыл бұрын
Fans have wanted a true adaptation since the original movies came out and didn't do it justice Whether the new movie ends up being that remains to be seen, but still
@Gadget-Walkmen
3 ай бұрын
@@Lazypackmule LOL What? These movies ARE a true adaption of the source martial while making the right changes for the films as it DID do it justice. You have to be talking about yourself here and yourself only as the Hellboy movies are critically acclaimed films that people love!
Yes my boy hellboy is finally getting a what's a difference
Hellboy is waaaay more immature in the movies than in the comics.
@ilikestuffandstuffhi
5 жыл бұрын
honestly depends on which book you read, the books set earlier in the time show a different hellboy to the one we initially got
@eastjm80
5 жыл бұрын
Brendan Kollman this isn’t true. Even in the current series of hellboy set in the 1950’s where he is a new agent he still isn’t as immature as he is in the movies. Hellboy has never acted like he does the the del toro movies and as a fan of hellboy it makes it really hard to watch
@LaurenceQuint
5 жыл бұрын
True. The bratty teenage Hellboy from the movies (which is also more or less the reboot film version, too) is not the Hellboy from the comics.
@Todie85
5 жыл бұрын
That he is- in an effort to make him more relatable.
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero
5 жыл бұрын
@@Todie85 Making a chatacter immature and bratty doesnt automatically equal more relatable nor are they mutually exclusive traits.
Sorry reboot, but Ron Perlman is the only red guy I know.
@uglywerewolf3473
5 жыл бұрын
"Red rocket yum" -geardog2.... lol
@diegom-a7970
5 жыл бұрын
Damn right
@jarrodedson5441
5 жыл бұрын
@@diegom-a7970 question
@hewhogoesevenfurtherbeyond9296
5 жыл бұрын
What's gives a new guy a chance, cast judgment after the movie
@jarrodedson5441
5 жыл бұрын
@@hewhogoesevenfurtherbeyond9296 try to tell that to my friend
The hellboy series has been my favorite movie series since I was legit 4 yrs old, and Del Toro is definitely my favorite director in the world.
If anyone liked Hellboy, I highly recommend watching two animated works where Ron and Liz eeprise their roles. I Believe they are called HellboyL Sword of the Storm and HB Blood and Iron.
"Big man himself stayed largely the same" Literally wut man This is 100% untrue He went from a grizzled, quiet, melancholic old warrior to a one liner-quiping teen They even mention he's like a teen in the movies
Del Toro is amazing 😯
@half-lifescientist1991
5 жыл бұрын
joe rock in ikr I love benicio del toro
@neftalicruzluciano
5 жыл бұрын
@@half-lifescientist1991 lololol
@_uncommon_sins_7867
5 жыл бұрын
Half-Life Scientist no no no no no no, BEINICIO Del toro is an actor, and GUILLERMO Del toro is a movie director. Learn the difference
@half-lifescientist1991
5 жыл бұрын
@@_uncommon_sins_7867 Hey, did you see that joke fly over your head? Oh, you must have missed it. Oh well.
@negativenigga5156
5 жыл бұрын
@@_uncommon_sins_7867 you the one who doesnt understand the joke
That reboot looks really generic. Like they promised it'd be dark and gritty but instead they showed the same tone as the last two films but without the charm and fun.
@user-jv7gr1jb3r
5 жыл бұрын
That's because it's got SJW politics inserted into the movie.
@dren5810
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-jv7gr1jb3r huh?? Please stop lol
@FlashakaViolet
5 жыл бұрын
This
@robbiethomson2337
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-jv7gr1jb3r DURRRRR SJW'S ARE RUININ' MOVIES DURRRRRRR
@user-jv7gr1jb3r
5 жыл бұрын
@@robbiethomson2337 I'M A SMART TART BECAUSE I TAKE JOKES THAT AREN'T THAT SERIOUS OR PERSONAL TOO SERIOUSLY AND PERSONALLY.
In the movie, the hellboy comics still exist, and are based on rumours about him. So, just like Del Toro took the imagery of the comics, in the movie universe the comic creators seem to have taken the few stories and sightings of their real hellboy and made a comic out of it! Mind = blown
This is like a live action extension of the comic, In the same way that a new author might come up with new stories but hold on to the feel of the characters and the world.
5:32 Roger the homunculus appear in the Second film. Though Only as a easter egg in the background.
@andresanguianozuniga6798
5 жыл бұрын
Really?!! I will see it again...
@RogueDragon05
5 жыл бұрын
He's actually in both
@SixSwansVodka
5 жыл бұрын
Do you know what scene?
I’ve always loved the original hellboy so the this new one BETTER BE GOOD
@user-jv7gr1jb3r
5 жыл бұрын
It's got SJW politics in the new one.
@nikmunoz4177
5 жыл бұрын
Odd Apprentice NOOOOO
@bearboy4751
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-jv7gr1jb3r What? how exactly?
@TheSpaceJockey91
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-jv7gr1jb3r The villain is a woman. It's far from being a SJW project.
@user-jv7gr1jb3r
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheSpaceJockey91 In SJW world she will be the tragic hero. Mrs. Understood to be exact. Hellboy and it's happy theme put the R rated theme in the back seat. Female ghostbuster humor.
Ron Pearlman will always be Hellboy, to me. #notmyHellboy
@PedroSilvahf
5 жыл бұрын
To me he is Hellbae
@KakashiHatake-sq2ik
5 жыл бұрын
Tell me your kidding because im bad at reading sarcasm
@alexmansfield3268
5 жыл бұрын
Lady Leomon except that never happened in the comics. That whole situation doesn’t make any fucking sense. Your wishing for something that completely deviates from the fucking source material
@Ketharuil
5 жыл бұрын
@@LadyLeomon he didn't want to retire. He wanted to do the third one with Del Toro. He's pretty upset about it all.
@purity_2428
5 жыл бұрын
he disgraced hell boy simple
One of the best edited channels I’ve seen...thanks for the great content!
Could you please do: The Planet Of The Apes, Cloud Atlas, The Godfather and Forrest Gump ?
@jasonblalock4429
5 жыл бұрын
Cloud Atlas would be an awesome analysis, because the Wachowskis were so faithful to the book in many ways, but completely re-structured it.
@user-jv7gr1jb3r
5 жыл бұрын
I'm more amazed how those titles originated from books. Books, gotta love 'em.
@h.b.smith_writer
5 жыл бұрын
I think Shutter Island would be a good analysis too.
I just started the hellboy comics and tbh....this movie will always be my favorite hellboy
The homonculus can actually be seen in a glass case in the background at one point in the film.
Thanks for doing this one! I have always been curious of what a WTD on this would be like and you did not disappoint in the slightest. I am also curious as to what this new reboot will be like, and will give it a shot(although no one, repeat NO ONE, can replace Ron Perlman's pitch perfect performance in my opinion.)
@alexmansfield3268
5 жыл бұрын
Mitch Neu but Ron pearlman was nothing like the comic hellboy either read the comics or don’t talk out your ass
The head in the jar in the Hellboy books is Herman von Klempt, not the same guy as Werner von Krupt. Von Krupt dies shortly after the summoning of Hellboy, and von Krupt pops up in stories all the way until the present day.
The Hellboy movie is what introduced me to other comic companies besides Marvel and I'm still thankful for that tbh
You should do a video on Hellboy 2: The Golden Army.
Please do a What’s the Difference for How to Train Your Dragon.
@mayhemthepsychopath
5 жыл бұрын
Thomas Grindol what
@Scroteydada
4 жыл бұрын
We'd be here forever. It's nothing like the book.
Great episode - thanks for this! I read Seed of Destruction recently and then had to go back and watch Hellboy again! Mignola is one of the greats.
good job. I like the movies. I love the comics. Hellboy is my favourite comic book character. the story and the art are like nothing else in the industry and is such a breath of fresh air from the usual DC and Marvel stuff.
6:12 I really shouldn't have laughed as hard as I did from hearing that stock frog noise, but here we are.
The editing on this episode especially those scenes in the panels is fire
What the Hell is the difference, Boy?!
@andresanguianozuniga6798
5 жыл бұрын
Best quotes on internet.
I just hope the reboot is darker (like the graphic novel) unlike the trailer
Hell yeah I cant wait for the new hell boy.
Heard 2006 and got super confused lol I remembered it being around longer, turns out it was released in 2004. Tiny goof, makes sense now!
this was the best editing work i have seen in a while , hell yeah
would you guys consider doing a vid on The secret of Nimh - What's the difference episode?
I was excited when they announced a reboot but after seeing the direction they chose to take I'm not really a fan. I'll def go see it when it comes out but I honestly really liked the original films.
Ik expections are high the last two were absolutely amazing, but I'm going to hold judgement until the movie comes out. Who knows it could be really good!
So in April are you guys gonna do Infinity Gauntlet (Comic) vs. Infinity War (Film)?
@JBryc3
5 жыл бұрын
Jacob Waters no
@jacobwaters1147
5 жыл бұрын
Jordan Bryce are you Cinefix? I don’t think so
@fightingmedialounge519
5 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't they do infinity war the comic.
@jacobwaters1147
5 жыл бұрын
In preparation for Endgame
I sometimes really hate people, Mingola said that the movie will be totally different from the Del Toros and still people are complaing how Harbour dosent look like Ron
Kinda went light on this one didn't you? Didn't mention a lot or things that were different, mainly the tone. You could have gone more in depth about it, the graphic novels are pretty dense with heavy themes.
I love how everyone is already dissing on the reboot despite the fact that the movie isn’t out yet The trailer didn’t leave the best impression... but still
@Gabreya
5 жыл бұрын
I’m probably in the minority but I actually thought the trailer was pretty damn cool. It made me excited to see the reboot. I hope it ends up being a good film.
Perfect timing guys. I just watched this film last night! It’s like you read my mind.
your channel used to be my favorite channel with home made movies
Roger, the homunculus, does appear in the movie - albeit standing motionless in a BPRD display case.
Hi! I just wanted to say this channel is awesome, and I hope everyone has a great day or night 🙂
Please do bellboy 2, it's my favorite
I would love to see a what's the difference hellboy 2 Golden army video.
DRIVE - What's the Difference? Nicolas Winding Refn's film between James Sallis's book, please!
*_For some reason, I really missed the 2004 version of Hellboy. It's better than the 2019 version._*
@SkarrGaming
5 жыл бұрын
You haven't seen it yet.
@TheSpaceJockey91
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe see it before judging it?
@jarrodedson5441
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheSpaceJockey91 exactly my Friend is doing the exact same he won't see the new one because it looks different and a joking matter
@poweroffriendship2.0
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheSpaceJockey91 Well, I really hope the 2019 version will be okay but I'm afraid it sucks badly.
@andresanguianozuniga6798
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know...the trailer bring a really bad first impression.
I think Harbour will be an awesome Hellboy. Hell, I even said he'd make a good Hellboy before he was even chosen.
Actually Roger the Homunculus is in the first film in a blink and you'll miss scene while Bruttenholm and Meyers are walking down the hall talking about the history of the B.P.R.D.
Robert C Acunas Devil You Know Trailer was the Hellboy trailer we should have seen, so check it out!
I was rewatching the movie and noticed Hell Boy has hooves. Not feet as seen on the comic Myers is looking at as he first meets Hellboy
"How do you adapt a comic book" Honestly: you just have to hit 2 key points 1) the characters have to be consistent with their comic persona Not verbatim in terms of aesthetics, but in demeanor and ideals 2) the story should be more of an interpretation of stories in the comics, but not a beat for beat translation EG: zodd always has to be a kryptonian, but the premise of his conflict with superman can waver E.g.: the joker always has to be a psychotic- albeit manipulative- menace who foils Batman; but he doesnt always have to be limited to robbing banks Those elements have to be present to ensure the film honors the source material Now whether or not the movie itself is good still relies on all the technical minutia (Eg: good script, production design, score, etc)
Great video bruh!
Do walking dead season 4
The issue with this adaptation is the character of hellboy. He isn’t supposed to be an edgy teen. He’s supposed to be a grizzled old man who’s quiet and professional.
Cinefix can you please do what the difference between hellboy 2 the golden army and the book
@2:46 Liz Sherman is a "PYRO-KINETIC" not "PYROTECHNIC"...you're expecting fireworks here?
one of my favorite movies from one of my favorite directors glad he knows how to do great adaptations
I looked for this exact video last week! So glad is here :)
One of the movies I get out every so often when I just want to have fun watching a movie
What, no mention of Abe's powers in the movie or the fact that they made Hellboy fireproof in the movie?
I was gonna write it until I read the description. Happy New years fam
It's about time. Great comparison.
You guys should do much more of these
Walking Dead Season 4, it's been about 3 years and 3 months since you did season 3.
You guys should do Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
Happy New Years CineFix ! Have a great 2019 love your channel 🎊💜
The Rasputin Resurrection scene in the movie is more fitting with the inspiration for the Character, the actual Russian Magician Rasputin himself.
There's a direct line pulled from the comics as well, though who says it is reversed. In the movie, Hellboy says, "That's gonna hurt in the morning." To which Abe replies "It is morning, Red." And Hellboy responds "Good, cause it hurts now." During the Cavendish battle in the comics this dialogue is seen word for word, only its Abe who's hurt and Hellboy who corrects him.
Great video! I just can't help but laugh at all the "I like this one better than the new one"... Sure... because the new one is already on cinemas... right... I guess I lost my nostalgia glasses somewhere, somehow.
0:12 Hellboy came out in 2004. Lazy editing.
@Akahige28
5 жыл бұрын
The release years of Hellboy and Hellboy 2 average out to 2006.
@spideyman23
5 жыл бұрын
Blondie62 But they are talking specifically about the 2004 film. It is lazy editing and/or fact checking.
@tennisdude52278
5 жыл бұрын
Blondie62 This entire video was about the 2004 film. Nothing regarding the 2008 film was included.
i'm sad they dont continue Hellboy 3.. i wonder what happen to them and want to watch he (hellboy) become a father..
Correction about Kronen's weapons in the movie, at the start they're wrist blades, and after the jump forward to then present day, they're tonfas.
I'd say that BPRD being secret changed the story quite a bit, especially the Golden Army. And Abe seems more general in the movie (probably to distinguish himself from Hellboy). Johann Krauss in Golden Army, on the other hand, is completely different character with the same look and powers (in the BPRD series, the newest member of team learing the ropes. In the movie his the senior member of the BPRD assigned to keep HB inline). Also both his romantic storyline with Liz and a bigger emphasis on the relationship with Bruttenholm, kind ofmake movie HB feel like brooding teenager at times.
They should’ve just make a third Hellboy movie that acts sort of like a reboot-quel. Or not. Just a third movie that’s stripped directly out of the comics and make Ron Perlman’s eye contacts look like what David Harbour is currently wearing.
Adaptations that faithful to the tone & feel of the original are the best.
"spawn(comics and hbo) whats the difference?" next pleaz
I'm still a bit disappointed that Hellboy 3 didn't worked, but i will give the reboot a chance
It’s 2004 and 2008 not 2006. But still love you guys!
Hellboy was one of the first comic book movies I ever saw - probably younger than I should have, but I still loved it xD
You guys should do a "Whats the difference" on HitchHikers Guide To The Galaxy
I cannot wait for the new one
I would love to see you guys do 13 warrior against eaters of the dead
Hell Boy 2019 DoP (according to wikipedia) "has also served as director of photography on a number of Syfy television films."
I hope you guys eventually cover the sequel and the two animated movies
Mike Mignola (Hellboy creator writer and artist) wrote the script and is involved in every aspect of this new movie. The first movies were good but Mignola's doing an adaptation from the books so it'll deal with heavier themes. We'll still get his stubborn charm and sarcasm but more mature storytelling.
@Gabreya
5 жыл бұрын
Mike Mignola is actually involved in the reboot?
@Murdermonday
5 жыл бұрын
@@Gabreya yeah, writing and producer. Pretty badass
@Gabreya
5 жыл бұрын
+Scare The Locals ! Wow! That’s awesome and as you said, pretty badass! It’s great that the creator of Hellboy is involved with the new film. I hope that the reboot turns out to be a good film. When my brother and I went to see “Aquaman” a few weeks ago, one of the movie previews we saw was the Hellboy reboot trailer and we thought that it was very interesting. I know that most fans wouldn’t agree, and that’s fine, but from what we were allowed to see for now in the trailer, I think that David Harbour as Hellboy was okay and he looked surprisingly cool.
Plz do one of these on Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
I'm looking forward to the new film, but still upset that we didn't get a third with Ron Perlman
@Gabreya
5 жыл бұрын
Same here. It’s a shame that they never made a Hellboy 3. But I don’t think that it’s fair that many fans are heavily crapping on the reboot and the new actor portraying Hellboy before the film is even released. I hope that it’s a good film and that Harbour does a good job.
Now that it’s finished do you think you could do a what’s the difference on A Series of Unfortunate Events?
Could you guys do a Lion King comparison? Like compared to Hamlet by William Shakespeare? Since the movie is approaching, it would be fascinating... Or it would also be cool if you did a Pet Sematary one since, once again, the reboot is coming out.
Am I the only one here who likes the comics, but doesn't care all that much for the movies. Now don't get me wrong, the movies aren't bad, at all, but compared to the comics they're the lesser version. The movies still deserve props though, without them my dad (and through him I) wouldn't have gotten into Hellboy.
@Contevent
5 жыл бұрын
The movies got me into the comics. If the comics are very, very good stories, I find myselft emotional when looking at the second movie. The struggles of Prince Nuada trying to save the dying races, the visual representation of Hellboy forced to choose his side, it get me. I still prefer their comic book personality, and I prefer Hellboy celibate, but I find the films gives something the comics do not give. Life and Energy. I find that the action in the comics is rather dull because of the unique style that makes them look both incredible and rather stiff. This accentuate the drama of some situation and the horrible majesty of the unfathomable creatures they come across, but it get in the way of the dynamism, be it physical of emotional. One example is Hellboy standing up to the Bureau in order to prevent the homoculous to be experimented on. It is both a touching scene and a powerful one, as it shows his humanity, compassion, and own suffering in the past. Yet I'd rather look again at him and Sapiens getting drunk and singing in the movie because there you can feel the chemistry working, the two marginalized, that big devil and the fishman getting hammered over human problem. That is my personal take on the issue. Speaking of which, I'm off to see that clip again.
The base for the first movie are wake the devil and seed of destruction, is a merging of those two