I'd have liked him not to describe Helen as an activist against trans issues. She's a women's rights activist, campaigning for the protection of women's sex-based rights. The only reason trans comes into it is that it's trans activists and gender ideology which are doing their best to erase women's rights.

@tessoftheterfervilles9469

5 ай бұрын

She actually describes herself as a Human Rights Activist, i think.

@Reet64

5 ай бұрын

Agreed.

@TallPoppy_1989

5 ай бұрын

Agree. Absolutely this. It was clunky and incorrect. But her words speak volumes and give clarity ☑️

@janerogers190

5 ай бұрын

Didn't she correct that?

@supergran1000

5 ай бұрын

The only way that Helen could be called "anti trans", is that she is against transition of children.

Helen speaks utter sense, what a fantastic human being and I'm so grateful for her. Thank you for a wonderful talk both.

@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij

4 ай бұрын

She’s also a pro Zion1sm ideologist too so obviously her moral compass isn’t her greatest strength to be fair and from a fellow Irish person this is outrageously evil&very disappointing she’s taken this gen0cide denying side!! I’m not an advocate of the trans cult whatsoever but she’s vile and has shown her true colours!! Won’t ever value her or other GC’s voice or take on ethical issues when they’re obviously morally bankrupt themselve& clearly don’t care about the pal3stinian women&children human rights&dignity

I think I've watched/listened to EVERY podcast/interview that HJ has done about this subject. And EVERY time she gives me a new way of thinking about it or a new way of explaining it to other people. She is an absolute genius 😍

@Bakeroo

5 ай бұрын

Quite brilliant. She makes her points so clear, fair and yet with compassion.

@SuzieQ-vt9zp

5 ай бұрын

She is wonderful. Clear, rational and so articulate. Who could possibly disagree with her, she makes total sense.

@alexandragrace8164

5 ай бұрын

I’m the same and I agree!

@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij

4 ай бұрын

She’s also a pro Zion1sm ideologist too so obviously her moral compass isn’t her greatest strength to be fair and from a fellow Irish person this is outrageously evil&very disappointing she’s taken this gen0cide denying side!! I’m not an advocate of the trans cult whatsoever but she’s vile and has shown her true colours!! Won’t ever value her or other GC’s voice or take on ethical issues when they’re obviously morally bankrupt themselve& clearly don’t care about the pal3stinian women&children human rights&dignity

@pushingdaisies954

4 ай бұрын

Me too! She is amazing. Her, Kathleen Stock, Julie bindel, Douglas Murray, Abigail Shreer...

This interviewer says that there is a lot to unpick here and that people will draw their own conclusions. There isn't anything at all to unpick, it's perfectly plain and simple. Men can not become women and women cannot become men. If anyone draws a different conclusion, then they are mistaken. Helen is, as always, measured, reasonable and truthful. I will never tire of listening to her.

Helen is not 'anti trans' but rather pro women, it's not difficult. Otherwise all the 'pro trans' activists could be argued to be anti women.

@katiewoosnam9655

5 ай бұрын

absolutely came here to say the same thing!!

@collyernicholasjohn

5 ай бұрын

Are they not?

@scottbuchanan9426

5 ай бұрын

Yes. Joyce and her ilk aren't discussing transmen at all. Their focus is on natal females and the impact the transgender movement will have -- and is having -- on them.

@collyernicholasjohn

5 ай бұрын

@@scottbuchanan9426 And children, girls as well as boys. Her son’s gay, and she’s said he was a gender nonconforming boy. He could have been trooned had he been born later.

@Mudskippered

5 ай бұрын

trans is bs - - trans rites are men in women spaces and sex lobotomies mandated for children. it is a sick racket and only a perverted group of men is benefiting from ''trans'' we should not be expected to ''be inclusive'' to predators.... yet that seems to be the demand

I’m glad Alex has Helen on the programme. Hope Alex has learnt something, as I feel his compassionate desire has led him to swallow the trans activist ideology hook line and sinker. I find a lot of liberal Christians won’t acknowledge the hard realities of the harm gender ideology has for children and women in particular

@thegodcast5878

5 ай бұрын

Hi John, Not hook line and sinker by any means, still learning each day, still listening, still loving. Thanks for watching.

You can be compassionate to men or women who want to express themselves in a sex non conforming way but you cannot deny their sexed reality or force others to pretend they are something they are not. I think forcing women to accept men in single sex spaces is abusive and misogynistic.

She is amazing! Thank you for having her on your show. Very sad that you introduced her as an activist against trans, because she is not. That’s the biggest problem we’re having; none of us are against the trans community, but why do NONE of YOU see that all we’re fighting for are OUR rights??! We are losing our rights to everything and no one bloody cares!! Why are their rights more important than ours? 😢

@marlonmoncrieffe0728

5 ай бұрын

LGBT rights may be even more protected and coddled than even non-white rights. By the way, so many cisgender heterosexual women are DEFENSIVE of transgender people, so tell your fellow women that they need to realize the harm they are doing.

@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij

4 ай бұрын

She’s also a pro Zion1sm ideologist too so obviously her moral compass isn’t her greatest strength to be fair and from a fellow Irish person this is outrageously evil&very disappointing she’s taken this gen0cide denying side!! I’m not an advocate of the trans cult whatsoever but she’s vile and has shown her true colours!! Won’t ever value her or other GC’s voice or take on ethical issues when they’re obviously morally bankrupt themselve& clearly don’t care about the pal3stinian women&children human rights&dignity

@moif_velocita

4 ай бұрын

Not against the trans community? This woman does nothing but spread dangerous lies and disinformation about us! Her campaign is years long and includes hundreds of public statements and articles and even a book about what a 'threat' we pose to cis women and children. Because I'm trans and the algorithm has identified me as such I can't even go on You Tube to listen to music without being constantly exposed to her videos about what a threat I am Do you have any idea how much fear and anguish people like Joyce cause amongst young trans and LGBTQI people? Can you understand what it is for an innocent person to be constantly branded in public as a danger to others - and how much mental torture and emotional damage Joyce causes to children? And here I can see in the comments that you all readily buy into her hatred, apparently becasuse you all agree with her. Do any of you care at all about the terror you're causing?

The interviewer needs to extend his compassion to women as well as men who pretend to be women.

@SandraEaston-Lawrence

5 ай бұрын

Exactly. He calls himself inclusive and yet he doesn't express any acceptance of the position women are in.

@sarahthorne375

5 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Inclusivity never tends to include, or recognise women. It’s very stark

@unnamed3932

5 ай бұрын

Why can't people recognize that being 'inclusive' of males is excluding women.

@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij

4 ай бұрын

Helen is also a pro Zion1sm ideologist too so obviously her moral compass isn’t her greatest strength to be fair and from a fellow Irish person this is outrageously evil&very disappointing she’s taken this gen0cide denying side!! I’m not an advocate of the trans cult whatsoever but she’s vile and has shown her true colours!! Won’t ever value her or other GC’s voice or take on ethical issues when they’re obviously morally bankrupt themselve& clearly don’t care about the pal3stinian women&children human rights&dignity

Thank you Fr Frost for being brave and open-minded enough to have this conversation, and for modelling civility. I trust you've noted the many comments pointing out that Helen Joyce is a pro-women, children and human rights activist. Maybe better to let the guest introduce herself? Mostly, I hope you've realised that on this issue what passes as 'progressive' or 'inclusive' turns out often to be the exact opposite when you confront the very real rights women, children, gay, disabled and religious people are losing because of the overreach of those pushing this irrational ideology. And that it is often in fact profoundly regressive (eg the concept of gender identity boiling down to nothing more than sex stereotypes) and cruel, not caring or kind (allowing children to believe potentially life-changing delusions, males to rob women of sporting titles and rankings, or women who have suffered sexual abuse in prisons, refuges etc to be gaslit and coerced into calling their rapists 'she'. And yet the overwhelming majority of trans-identifying males demanding women's rights are white middle--class males who have had no genital surgery Where is the compassion for those who are actually the most vulnerable and powerless in our society? What a terrible inversion of compassion, truth and justice that my rights as a left-wing woman with a (hidden) disability, from a working-class Muslim family come second to theirs. Of course all trans people should have the same universal rights as all us of us eg to live free of abuse and discrimination, but I'm just one of many thousands (women are half the population) impacted by the supposedly kind, inclusive idea of trans 'rights' when that means encroaching on ours. It's nothing like the historic fight for gay rights, as no gay person ever demanded the rights of other groups.

@marlonmoncrieffe0728

5 ай бұрын

...I think it is simply that LGBT people are the most coddled and protected minority group right now-even moreso than non-whites and even women. I do NOT agree with this overprotectiveness and coddling but this is my observation. P.S. Also, simply-tragically simply but simply-there is a sector of the pharmaceutical and medical establishment promoting transmania to make money out of useless treatment.

@andymilburn2163

5 ай бұрын

Very well said, thank you

@emilylevy8195

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comments ❤

@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij

4 ай бұрын

She’s also a pro Zion1sm ideologist too so obviously her moral compass isn’t her greatest strength to be fair and from a fellow Irish person this is outrageously evil&very disappointing she’s taken this gen0cide denying side!! I’m not an advocate of the trans cult whatsoever but she’s vile and has shown her true colours!! Won’t ever value her or other GC’s voice or take on ethical issues when they’re obviously morally bankrupt themselve& clearly don’t care about the pal3stinian women&children human rights&dignity

I could listen to these two people all day. Amazing. Dr Helen has incredible thought processes, and the ability to turn those thoughts into words that are easily understandable. Verbal elegance.

You should have given that intro in front of Helen to give her the opportunity to correct you. She is not an “activist against trans rights issues”.

This chap has mixed up "trans men" and "trans women" at 26:12. A common mistake because of fuzzy language. Which has been deliberately manipulated. A "trans man" is a biological woman. Or "woman" as we used to be known. Not any sort of man. Similarly a "trans woman" is a man, no sort of woman.

@KennyEvans-rr6we

Ай бұрын

The inversion of language/meaning a primary warning in the book 1984

Really like Helen Joyce's work.

HJ is definitely not anti trans. She has always stated that people can indenify in any way they'd like. But when people start denying their biology we have a problem

I had an eating disorder and absolutely Hated my body as a teenager and I didn't want to become a woman..... THE REASON WAS BECAUSE I WAS TERRIFIED of growing up, getting a boyfriend or married and immediately getting pregnant (as all my sisters did very young) THAT'S what it was as it is for ALL young women..... NOTHING to do with being the opposite sex OR being born in the "wrong body" 🤦🏻‍♂️ After YEARS of GROUP therapy DECADES of helping OTHER WOMEN with E. D.'s (I'VE NEVER EVER met a male with an ED as its extremely rare) WE HAVE ALL the same general experience..... Hating and Disassociating with our rapidly changing bodies..... Taaaah Daaaaah...... That's it and that's all okay some rare cases were also for sexual abuse too, to a lesser extent but that also causes the same self loathing. Something permanent should never be the solution TO ANY PROBLEM!!! THERAPY or JUST AN UNDERSTANDING ear is always best!!!

She is incredibly bright and informative especially needed on women's/ trans movements.

Good job by the interviewer. Asked the questions others should be asking and gave her the space to answer. Helen brilliant as always.

Can we all agree that compassion, while important, has to be balanced with other important values? (ie: justice) In particular, I'm thinking of the so-called compassionate rhetoric that got fully intact male rapists placed into female prisons, "because they're women too and it costs you nothing to be kind." I wonder if the interviewer is aware of the psychiatric diagnosis of autogynephellia? It's one of the many pathways to a trans identity as Helen mentioned. Autogynephellia is a male person's erotic preoccupation with perceiving themselves as a woman. It usually begins sometime in adolescence where a typically masculine boy develops an intense sexual fantasy around wearing women's clothing, emulating women's bodily processes (ie: menstruation or lactation), and/or engaging in stereotypically female social behavior. It starts in the privacy of the male's home, usually accompanied by masturbation and porn, before it escalates into the public sphere where the male begins to enact this fantasy with the participation of unsuspecting people who simply think he's another 'dysphoric transgendered woman'. These males often go as far as taking hormones and getting surgeries, not to quell dysphoric feelings, but to enhance the feminization fantasy. What's clearly been lost in the trans identity conversation is not only a basic understanding of sex differences but also the ways in which male and female sexuality manifest differently. Males are statistically far more likely to develop sexual paraphilias such as autogynephillia and to engage in sexual violence, across all races, classes, and cultures, as compared to females. A professed cross-sex identity doesn't magically change that reality. I recommend reading "Men Trapped in Men's Bodies" by Ann Lawrence for first hand accounts of 'transwomen' with autogynephillia. It's important to remember that under the current self-identification system, these men are legally entitled to enter women's spaces too if they simply verbalize a woman's identity.

@unnamed3932

5 ай бұрын

What you discuss is the driver of this 'trans' nonsense, that is, cross-dressing, (primarily heterosexual) males w/ paraphilias, autogynephiles/transvestic fetishists, men w/ erotic fixations who insist on invading woman-only spaces and appropriating 'woman' itself. Some of these men are dangerous to women and it is not women's burden to sort out which ones. Some of these paraphilic men 'identify' as lesbian and insist on imposing on lesbian spaces. And as cover, these men have invented the 'trans child' to justify their paraphilia as a 'trans' 'gender identity.' The T was forced-teamed onto the LGB for greater acceptance of the T but they are two different things. LGB is based on the material reality of sex but Tis based on the invented and incoherent 'gender identity and no material reality, just fantasy and stereotypes.

@marlonmoncrieffe0728

5 ай бұрын

Funny enough, we SHOULD compassionately tell people NOT but the point is is that sometimes, however difficultly, we NEED to tell people no-and THAT is the true kindness. Yes, there are transgender people that believe what they believe for various reasons and some really are gender dysphoric and others are just fetishists taking advantage.

@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij

4 ай бұрын

Yep but sadly there’s evidently Gender Critics who don’t follow the money or target where these ideologies are actually being funded and come from! Look at Trans AGP billionaire Jennifer Pritzker in big pharma! Also what a bs claim Helen makes that shes caring about Children, I couldn’t roll my eyes more!!!! She’s a pro Zion1sm ideologist too so obviously her moral compass isn’t her greatest strength to be fair and from a fellow Irish person this is outrageously evil&very disappointing she’s taken this gen0cide denying side!! I’m not an advocate of the trans cult whatsoever but she’s vile and has shown her true colours!! Won’t ever value her or other GC’s voice or take on ethical issues when they’re obviously morally bankrupt themselve& clearly don’t care about the pal3stinian women&children human rights&dignity

It trans identity ideology she is against not against “trans” people.

Interviewer doesn't sound like he's gotten up to his knees in gender yet ~ added character to the interview

There is also the question of children being poisoned by puberty-blockers and wrong-sex hormones and mutilated by experimental surgery.

What a fabulous interview! I have watched HJ being interviewed many times and loved the different approach here. The comparison of gender ideology with a religious belief is an argument I've used myself. Nobody wishes harm on those who believe that they are another sex, but it is a belief and not a fact.

@gzoechi

5 ай бұрын

It becomes a different matter if they try to recruit children in schools, refuse parents the right to talk to children about it and try to get children into medical treatment that causes irreversible harm. It's not a religion. It's a cult.

@dreimalnein22

5 ай бұрын

Did you listen to HJ's recent interview with Gender Dysphoria Alliance? that was when I felt this way. I am now 75% through this one and really like it a lot too. More than the already very good talks and interviews she did since 2019. It seems from being already frank and genius this year, these two times she went stellar. :)

@gzoechi

5 ай бұрын

@@dreimalnein22 I haven't but what I have seen about her looks interesting

@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij

4 ай бұрын

She’s also a pro Zion1sm ideologist too so obviously her moral compass isn’t her greatest strength to be fair and from a fellow Irish person this is outrageously evil&very disappointing she’s taken this gen0cide denying side!! I’m not an advocate of the trans cult whatsoever but she’s vile and has shown her true colours!! Won’t ever value her or other GC’s voice or take on ethical issues when they’re obviously morally bankrupt themselve& clearly don’t care about the pal3stinian women&children human rights&dignity

This issue is made far more complex than it need be- Belief in the 100% evidence-free concept of (sex-independent) "gender", or that a 100% physically typical male can be "REALLY a woman"(or "non-binary", or whatever), in whatever mystical, undetectable sense, need to be treated the same as we've ALWAYS treated ALL belief systems with the same standard of evidence as "gender"... We call these belief systems "RELIGIONS", because exactly like "gender", they have no verifiable, empirical evidence, and because ultimately,they are believed solely based on "...but it FEEELS true, to me". A.K.A "taking it on faith". Like ALL religions, believers in "gender" can dress, think, believe, Identify etc in ANY way they choose. They can even mutilate their own body, surgically or chemically, to try to imitate the superficial appearance of being the opposite sex, or for ANY OTHER evidence-free,faith-based relugious motivation they may have... But like ALL evidence-free, faith-based beliefs, their beliefs DO NOT grant them special privileges the rest of us lack, like being able to invite yourself into the wrong-sex bathroom, or sports comps,or prisons, or ANY space/group that other members of their EVIDENCE-BASED SEX (ie NOT their evidence-free, faith-based "gender"; Believers in "gender" try to conflate the two, constantly) have no access to. You faith-based belief in "gender" DOES NOT entitle you to compel the speech of others, and force them to PRETEND to share your evidence-free beliefs, to demand we affirm your relugious beliefs, with incorrect, wrong-sex pronouns. You DO NOT get to mutilate 100% physically healthy children, for no evidence-based reason, because of your religious belief in making children conform to sexual stereotypes (of EITHER sex. Both are just unacceptable) And although you (as a consenting adult) ARE free to self-mutilate,if you want (altho I personally believe it should be STRONGLY discouraged. But ultimately, each of our body,like our mind,is our own), that is objectively NOT "medicine", because by definition, "medicine" is 1. EVIDENCE-BASED; No aspect of "gender" has ANY real-world empirical evidence,at all. And 2. Medicine aims to MINIMIZE physical harm to the function of the body, and to RETURN the body to its natural, healthy state (or as close as possible); But so-called """gender-affirming care""" is virtually the OPPOSITE; It knowingly does ONLY physiological harm, in pursuit of a SUPERFICIAL, NON-FUNCTIONAL ILLUSION of being the opposite sex. And it typically STARTS OUT with a normal, physicalky healthy patient, and aims to PREVENT them returning to that normal, healthy, natural state... So the special privileges this intolerant, authoritarian religion of "gender" has been given, needs to stop; I'm not a fan of Christianity, and even LESS so, of Islam... but even the most fundamentalist versions of Christianity or Islam aren't as authoritarian, or intolerant of non-belivers as believers in "gender" are- Trying to compel the speech of others, pushing evidence-free religious beliefs as "truth" in gov't-funded schools and unis. Bullying non-believers into silence, online. We wouldn't accept this from ANY traditional religion, or any OTHER evidence-free pseudo-science. We just need believers in "gender", to obey the same rule as EVERYONE ELSE; Their beliefs get no more, and no less special protection that belief in Islam, Christianity,Buddhism, Scientology, or ANY belief system with that same, faith-based, "but it FEEELS true, to me!!" standard of evidence. Trans people deserve THE SAME RIGHTS as you, or me, or ANY member of their evidence-based sex... But nobody gets EXTRA """rights""" (really "special PRIVILEGES") because of their evidence-free relugious beliefs... Nobody gets to CHOOSE which sex bathrooms and sports and prisons they can access

When he introduced HJ as someone who campaigns against trans rights was very telling. HJ campaigns for children’s and women’s rights.

I wish i could speak as clearly and eloquently on this subject and any other for that matter. But she has done infinitely more thinking and reseach than I. Thank you HJ.

Helen Joyce is a woman that speaks common sense. I believe gender ideology is a new religion, where feelings are more important than facts.

Just come across your "Godcast". Fascinating stuff. Helen is very lucid and always interesting to listen to.

Thank you for hosting Helen. I'm very grateful for her ideas and giving me the words to shore up my argument when dealing w this pervasive and destructive ideology.

The deluded person NEEDS to face REALITY....... that's JUST the way REALITY works. Empathy DOES NOT INVOLVE lying or pandering to a delusional belief! ❤

Helen You are AMAZING!🎉

Love Helen Joyce!

Thanks for the induction to HJ and the interesting dialogue

Thank you, enjoyable discussion xox

I see that Helen is a Bill Bryson fan. Good for her.

Gosh I adore Helen. So sensible and intelligent.

She`s great mate

That was great!!

Helen Joyce is always a joy to listen to. Her clear thinking and and straightforward speaking make the issue clear. The chap seems a bit confused you. The same old stroy of being told 'women do not consent' and the mans response id 'but men want to' .

He believes in Gender, however unlike most he is able to have this conversation and listen respectfully to Helen. 🎉❤😮😅. The ability to disagree with dignity separates love from hate. Thank you both

What a lovely interview !! My impression is that you are a very caring person.

Thank you for this conversation.

Good interview! Thanks for sharing!

Excellent.

Well done to father Alex for hosting this conversation. I've listened to a lot of Helen choices interviews, but was really interesting that you were coming from a religious and "inclusive "church perspective. I'll definitely listen to some of your other interviews. Thank you for being open minded.

@thegodcast5878

5 ай бұрын

Most kind, I'm learning, even at 54 years old I'm learning.

Thanks to you both

There is no such thing as the wrong body.That would mean they would have to know what it’s like to be in another body.

I like people who are passionate about truth, and who insist that truth matters. I really enjoyed hearing you and Helen in discussion. In person, and face to face, Helen is kinder than I had supposed from her writing. Most of what she says so forcefully is irrefutable. Many extreme trans advocates are unreasonable in what they demand, and the trans activist mob does its tribe no favours. To say that you do not believe something should not be the same as saying that something is untrue; it’s OK not to know everything. And I think that Helen comes perilously close to knowing everything. In argument, Helen is reluctant to admit any distinction between biological sex and gender identity. Though she may be correct in most of what she says, the reality for many people with gender confusion is that they wait years for any medical help, be it psychological, psychiatric or surgical.

@baconsarny-geddon8298

5 ай бұрын

Medicine,and especially for kids, is meant to be EVIDENCE-BASED. It shouldn't be done, with zero evidence,based on faith, because of some weird mental gymnastics about "not knowing everything". "Should we amputate the foot, of this guy with a broken nose? ....well, we DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING, so let's lop it off, just to be safe..." This is NOT how medicine works....

@SandraEaston-Lawrence

5 ай бұрын

Not everyone believes in 'gender identity' - many of us believe that we each have one of two types of sexed body and a personality. And 'gender identity' is never relevant in the ways sex is.

@shabanahfazal6512

5 ай бұрын

Puzzling comment! She very clearly says repeatedly a person can 'identify' as whatever they want in a free society (even though an inner subjective 'identity,' is not objectifiable verifiable ie the rest of us don't see it) - but that doesn't change their biological sex, which is a scientific, testable fact and encoded in every cell of our bodies. It's those who believe in gender identity ideology that often conflate the two (not always - some accept the distinction), either through sincere but mistaken belief, or to actively sow confusion and make us the doubt the evidence of our senses.

To my knowledge, through recorded history, at least as far back as the Sumerians, there is no mention of any sexual division but male female binary ( with the occasional anomaly, eunuchs, hermaphrodites, etc.). I wonder , then: 1) If there ever has been , how did that work out for that culture ? 2) If not, why was it not identified until the 21st century, escaping the observations of legions of great thinkers, philosophers, authors, scientists, physicians, biologists, etc. If anyone could illuminate along these lines for me, I would appreciate the education.

@celinede-nh9ek

Ай бұрын

Activists would talk about ancient examples of women who disguised themselves as men to study medicine, or other actions forbidden to women. They claim it's proof they were trans but didn't say it, because of bigotry in ancient times.

What exactly are “trans rights”?

@dreimalnein22

5 ай бұрын

The first idea coming to my mind is to allow autogynephile men in womanface to intrude female only spaces.

@OrwellsHousecat

5 ай бұрын

Trns rights are trns Supremacy, just like feminism is fem Supremacy

@carltaylor6452

5 ай бұрын

A good Q. Apparently, for the activists, it's the right to walk over everyone else's rights and to compel speech so that no-one is allowed to complain about it. Thankfully, they aren't succeeding here in the UK, but it's going to be a long fight because they can be found everywhere, from the civil service, to the police and the NHS.

A trans man intruded upon my rights at the Recreation Centre that I have attended for 13 years so now I won't go there anymore.

Also, I’m a lapsed Catholic. I don’t go to church because of the pestering about tithing. The Catholic Church is one of the richest entities in the world. The Vatican is hoarding great works of art. They could sell second tier Rembrandts and Michelangelo’s and have plenty of money for new roofs and good healthy food for every nun and priest and servant in every diocese in the world. For the next 5 centuries. That’s without any tithing whatsoever.

22:06 I would laugh in their face and tell them not to be so bloody ridiculous.

I will make a little effort and correcting spelling grammar, so excuse me, Helen shares that her son is gay if she understands science like she does math there’s an explanation of why her son is gay that I follow is that the second son will be a gay man or a transgender male to female Based on the theory that my mother had high testosterone with my brother and low testosterone, second son me and so that’s why my brain believes that I am a woman and that my biological sex was set in a different trimester Then the gender identity in my brain

21:00 Helen's understanding of human rights, seems to be strongly informed by her catholic upbringing. I wonder what her views on human rights would be if she grew up in the middle east, Muslim nation?

@ambientjohnny

5 ай бұрын

What are you trying to say? What humans rights stances "originate" with Catholicism???

@xaxfixho

5 ай бұрын

@@ambientjohnny a catholic's understanding of human rights and a Muslim understanding of human rights and worlds apart. No fancy works, simple as.

@mc.8391

4 ай бұрын

She might have turned out as Ayaan Hirsi Ali.......!!!

Using the term "human rights" is the problem. We need to say the "rights of a human" instead because these are two completely different things. Trans activists through the Human Rights Commission of the United Nations use the term "human rights" but don't mean what they say, which is typical of wokeism. Believers of the religion of Wokeism do not say what they mean but use euphemisms to cloak their true nefarious intentions behind a wall of "niceness, tolerance and inclusion" (all just euphemisms as well). They do not mean that people have "rights" but rather that the Commission has "rights" to push its agenda out onto society. By "human rights" the Human Rights Commission merely means THEIR legal rights to create laws and enforce them. They do not mean the "rights of a human", which involves each individual's God given inalienable rights as a living, breathing human being. You have to be VERY careful when using the left's vocabulary. Because they mean one thing that does not agree with what you're saying and it's how they have successfully managed to slip their laws in to society with us clueless and unawares. We thought we were arguing one thing and thus agreed and they passed the law. Very evil. Very sneaky indeed.

Nice of you to have HJ come on and talk some sense about people who delusionally think they are the opposite sex and how an idea in someone's head does not make it reality. Not sure her logic landed--you seem very skeptical and more willing to believe that something that makes no sense and has zero material evidence is more true than materal reality and reason. Seemed like this interview ended too soon because the host was uncomfortable with the topic and worried about how his friends (who are men who like to think they are women) will react, because they are the priority.

26:25 You’ve got it completely arse about face. 🙄 You can’t even get the activists terminology right; and that ambiguity is intentional, of course.

A great discussion that recognises that this is not a simple One Side v The Other Side issue. One absolutely can have compassion for the many struggles that may lead a person to identify as The Opposite Sex, and try to understand where they're coming from. At the same time, one can also recognise that biological sex is very important, and we can't simply just lay it aside. We can't actually change it. Helen mentions a trans man whose medical provider was reported as being transphobic, simply because the issue this trans man was needing help with involved his biologically female body. Pretending that a trans woman is not male or that a trans man is not female, that's going to impact the health care they receive. And that's wrong. There's also the issue of identifying the root cause of a person's distress with his/her male or female body. Acting as though every situation requires no more than a 'transition'. Where's the Science in that? Let's really get the help these people need. If it just turns out that a man is gay and femme or awoman is a butch lesbian. Where's the problem with that? For those (adults) who really do benefit from living as the opposite sex. All well and good. I wish them joy. And as few medical problems as possible. (No they can't change sex. Buck Angel uses a great term. He says he uses surgery and medication to 'masculinize' his female body. That's a really clear way to put it. We can all understand that.) Then, we come to the issue of 'women's spaces' and 'women's sports'. If there wouldn't be enough trans athletes to have a trans category, within the women's and men's sport categories. Then all I can think of is a mixed category, where women, who consent to do so can compete against trans women, whilst women who see it as only fair to have female woman competing against other female women, can do so. 'Your right to swing ends where my nose begins.' When it comes to female spaces. I'm of the opinion that some trans women should be allowed and others shouldn't. It's a matter of respect. We get some trans women who demand respect but have absolutely none for us, and there are those (who, as far as I'm concerned. no more think they're women than does The Pope,) are only in women's spaces to prey on women. But there are also plenty who have every respect for women. They're not out for creating a scene, they put enormous effort into presenting to the world as though they're female. They're aware that they're male, and will have enough respect for women to not advertise that fact. Yes. I absolutely believe that biology matters. But given the small percentage that these perfectly reasonable trans women make up. I see no reason that we can't share space with them. But we absolutely should have every right to show the door to any 'trans woman' who is either not giving the same respect that she wants to receive, or is being abusive in any way.

@sherylwhite2201

5 ай бұрын

You're not recognising, or perhaps you're not aware, that many many women, possibly most throughout their lives have experienced various forms of incursion, assault or abuse at the hands of males. This can be at the less malign end of the spectrum eg from persistent males who insist on forcing themselves on you, to voyeurism, exposure,groping, and on into various forms of assualt, violence, abuse. So a large percentage of women would just like to enter spaces where our clothing comes off, without having to wonder or be on edge about the possibility of a male being present. Doesn't matter if a male is quite benign, just the possibilty brings up the alertness and edginess. I write this as someone who has been involved in social services to females over many years, and also simply as a woman who has experienced those less malign but extremely offensive offences of groping, exposure, unwanted attention. And having heard these stories from many friends and acquaintances. So when you say some men who identify as women should be allowed in women's spaces, you're really caring less about the wellbeing of women (whose trauma you cannot see) than about the men, supposedly vulnerable but never for a moment thinking about women's vulnerability.

@xelix5358

5 ай бұрын

In sports, it's been proposed to have women's sports as female sex segregated so that they stay fair competitions, and have another Open category. Men don't have an issue competing with trans (transwomen or transmen) because male sportsmen of any gender identity have physical competitive advantage as a rule.

@baconsarny-geddon8298

5 ай бұрын

"I see no reason we can't share space..." Because bioligical males (the evidence-based SEX, not the evidence-free "gender") commit over 98% of sex crimes, and over 80% of violent crime overall. Males (REGARDLESS of self-ID "gender") are (overall, on average) significantly larger, heavier, stronger. Males have exactly zero risk of getting pregnant, where as women risk serious, unavoidable, life-changing results with EVERY act of intercourse, which means the SEXES have very different incentives, in terms of having sex, and especially, raape. Sure, reasonable, nice "trans women" exist- I'm happy to assume they make up THE MAJORITY of "trans women"... But reasonable, nice ("""cis""") MEN exist too, right? In fact, I'd suggest that's the majority of MEN, too... So should 7yo girls and 77yo grandmas have to undress,sharing changerooms with ALL men, for fear offending the "reasonable" ones?!? We seperated the SEXES in vulnerable situations like bathrooms for a REASON (the ones detailed above, for a start). But we don't separate males from women and girls, because of the vast majority who ARE decent and reasonable... We separate males, because of the small minority who AREN'T reasonable and decent, who WILL use their advantage in physical strength, when given the opportunity of a woman/girl in a vulnerable scenario... And the "reasonable, decent" men UNDERSTAND that women need privacy, dignity and same-SEX spaces, because you can never tell which men ARE or AREN'T "decent", until they ACT on that indecency, and hurt a woman... ...the man who WANTS to enter female spaces, who DOESN'T understand/care that women NEED to assume that all men are potentially dangerous, is BY DEFINTION not "reasonable" and "decent"... Because he's prioritizing HIS OWN wants, as one single (larger, stronger) man, over the safety and peace of mind of all theDOZENS (or hundreds, or more) of women/girls, who rely on that space for safety... The sentence "I Identify as a woman" IS NOT a magical spell, which when spoken, instantly makes men conform to female crime patterns. The OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE says the men who self-ID as "trans women" are MORE likely to commit sex offences than men overall, not LESS as believers in evidence-free "gender" tend to assume, for ideoligical reasons. But even if we assume they merely have THE SAME crime rates as men overall, WHY would we start catagorizing bathrooms by self-ID'd "gender", instead of evidence-based sex,specifically? Just to prioritize the all-important "validation" of 0.5% of males, over the basic safety, rights, privacy, and peace of mind,of 100% of women and girls? Just because the men who self-ID as "trans women" DEMAND access to female spaces, and insist they'll invite themselves in REGARDLESS of how women feel, coz what are you gonna do about it? Because those poor, oppressed full-grown men are (in some unspecified sense) so much MORE vulnerable than 5yo girls, and 70yo old ladies? There are SOME "trans women" who appreciate this, and DO have enough respect for women, to stay out of female spaces like bathrooms. Corinna Cohn is one, and several others have been interviewed on the "Benjamin Boyce" youtube channel. And again, I'm not saying that ALL, or even MOST mtf's are a danger to women and girls... I'm saying that like men overall, most ARE decent... But the danger comes from the minority who ARE NOT decent... And by defintion, any male who puts THEMSELF above the reality the safety of women and girls relies on excluding ALL biological male, IS NOT "decent"...

@SandraEaston-Lawrence

5 ай бұрын

How would your idea of letting 'respectful' men into women's spaces work? And you can't answer for all women in granting entrance to our spaces: women who've been traumatised by men or who can't share spaces with them for religious reasons need to be considered first. Since we don't have bouncers on the door to our spaces, the only way to keep them safe is to exclude all men.

@katiewoosnam9655

5 ай бұрын

I think I used to be with you on the bathrooms. But how do we decide who’s in and who’s out? Lack of clarity opens the doors to everyone, including malicious men, and puts it on to women to make that judgement call in the moment.

Well someone created us and our world. It was not thebig bang and evolution because everything is too ecologically interconnected to have hàppened by chance. The Bible and religion have many flaws but these may be the wrong sources to find our creator.

@Larkarran

5 ай бұрын

“If you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!"