The level or lack their of basketball knowledge on this program is astounding. Grant Hill didn't get traded because the Pistons wanted to trade him. He signed a FA deal with Orlando that forced a sign and trade. This dude has lost his mind. All of these dude are wrong.

@ricosally6734

5 күн бұрын

That's write, that's how they got Wallace, and Atkins, he try to play like the pistons screwed him, he was never going to resign after his rookie deal

@1stblackmanonthenet

5 күн бұрын

Bro, they're horrible. I think they're smoking brown weed with too many seeds😅

Trading Cade is a TERRIBLE TAKE

@Jamar-lg9ob

5 күн бұрын

Depends on what we get back

@leonjohnson5452

4 күн бұрын

What do y’all think about a possible trade of Cade for San Ant 4th and 8th pick? Hear me out! Getting a player or any player without having a GREAT Competent front office first would not be beneficial for The team fans or players. I feel that most modern day players are trash with no real true fundamentals. Yeah they may have a bag and can do all the fancy things but rarely have you seen it truly translate into winning a chip let alone wins or in our case even making a playoff appearance. There’s no one free agent or two that’s realistically available for us that’s going to take this team to the promise land. So save your money. So if we pay Cade that extension money then what? You still have to get shooters around him. Which will cost money or depending on our scouting which at the moment may not be as ideal then again Trajan maybe what we need but still with no cache of assets it’s futile. Let me go back to the current players in the league. Do you really think any current free agent or even a tradable player unless it’s a bonafide super star is going to get the Pistons to the playoffs let alone the chip? I think not. I Cade at this point is like how Matthew Stafford was to us. Good player but don’t have the team or the culture to win with him. That’s why I say trade him get the 4th and 8th pick trade the 8th pick for future picks that could help replenish our pick assets and at the draft , draft maybe that center from UConn Clingan and either Cody Williams or Matas Buzelis. Or whomever is the best available. But keeping Cade won’t really help us UNLESS we make some major unworldly moves that i highly doubt

@Jamar-lg9ob

4 күн бұрын

@@leonjohnson5452 have to add another future first

@Jamar-lg9ob

4 күн бұрын

@@leonjohnson5452 amen and 3rd pick

Everyone on this channel is disposable 🤡😂

If your biggest complaint of stew was shooting 38% from 3, you have a stupid argument. He was asked to move to a new position and he somewhat filled it. Our SHOOTING guard in ivey shot worse. Played defense worse. Such a dumb thing to say

@doriandenard5846

5 күн бұрын

That was Monty's fault for not developing Ivey by playing him.

@nickeddy1823

5 күн бұрын

@doriandenard5846 monty didn't help. But stew still shot better

Stick sounds so dumb.

Stick is a bozo

I can understand his point but u don’t trade a player that has the potential that Cade does without seeing him on a competent team. He’s a 3 level scorer who is amazing passer and damn near halved his turnover rate the last half of the year. He’s solid on defense and has shown to be able to take over games late in the 4th. If u put an all star level player next to him and sign acouple quality bench players ion see how Cade doesn’t take the next step into that 25+ 5+ 8+ range

@Jamar-lg9ob

5 күн бұрын

Fs not a amazing passer really a point forward or two guard and was a blow by guy on defense

@kylecritchfield6539

3 күн бұрын

Look at the twenty leaders in turnovers. All those names is a good list regardless. People don’t really know ball like that. Cade is the best 1st pick since Lebron

I don't think Cade has shown us that Dog that killer Instinct yet that we need. Don't forget what Dave Being said about Cade.

@t.onacloud

2 күн бұрын

so…in like December when Cade was dropping 30+pts for like a 6-7 game stretch, with two 40+ point performances within those games…that just ain’t do it for you huh? ☠️

@yoscott7321

2 күн бұрын

@@t.onacloud I don't care if he score 50 a game. The Pistons are a Championship franchise from what I can remember and until we get back to that everyone is held accountable. And yeah I do remember him taking and early shot against Miami In a game they should have won but he took the shot to early and we lost against a short handed team.

@t.onacloud

Күн бұрын

@@yoscott7321 yk how hard it is to score 50 a game? 😭 you definitely just chattin now. if you can drop 50 a game, you’re a bucket, point blank period. Also, i never said these guys shouldn’t be held accountable. i responded to what u said about how cade hasn’t shown us that killer instinct..those are two different things my friend 😂. also that miami game was tough, i was furious.. but that’s something u can easily learn from. i’d rather those mistakes be made now than later on down the line when those games will actually matter.

@t.onacloud

Күн бұрын

@@yoscott7321 also, short handed team or not, miami is still better.. none of our core players other than cade could score more than 12 lol..Ivey, Duren, & Stew ain’t even show up. so yes, they were short handed.. but to say we should have won?! buddy, we basically got a g league team😭

@yoscott7321

Күн бұрын

As you can see in my frist comment I said he's not there yet and I hope he gets to that point, I personally think he can stand to play better especially at the end of games.

23 year old Calvin Johnson was on the 2008 Lions. Cade is 22.

No. Don Kelly wasn't on the 2003 & 2006 teams. But the following players were: Craig Monroe, Brandon Inge, Omar Infante, Ramon Santiago, Jeremy Bonderman, Fernando Rodney, Mike Maroth, Nate Robertson and Wilfredo Ledezma. They weren't All-Stars, but they all played roles. You've got to start with a base and from that base you've got to establish an identity. I haven't watched the Pistons in years, but from what I've read and heard, you need at least 1 of those guards (I'd prefer having both) and Durren to be the base of SOMETHING. I'm not a big "find a bunch of shooters" guy - I think all the 3-point shooting is one of the worst trends in sports history. It works when you have Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. It doesn't work when you're shooting 25% from the 3-point line. Beef Stew doesn't strike me as a player with a good role for this team going forward. Actually, why can't Cade and Ivey play well together? Perhaps a new coach or a new scheme is what's needed?

@doriandenard5846

5 күн бұрын

Best comment.

@chrisdelisle3954

5 күн бұрын

@@doriandenard5846 Thank you. I'm no basketball expert, but old-fashioned ideas like "teamwork" and "playing defense" and "effort" and "everyone playing a role" should still translate to whatever basketball is these days. It would be nice if someone could utilize both Cade's and Ivey's talents into a working combination.

@sebastianmarquez4200

5 күн бұрын

As soon as he brought up that tigers team I was like uhhhh a lot of those players came back lmao. And I was like 5 in 03 and I know that.

Creating a take on trading Cade after Langdon talked about how he respects Cade and his plans is to build around him is WILD lol

@Megahustla313rd

4 күн бұрын

Yeah, Langdon is smart

People need to understand that trading a player on a rookie contract will probably get you 2 draft pics and a salary matcher....if you have to trade cade it need to be in year 2 of his max extension where you get players to make the money match i.e Carmelo Anthony trade James Harden trade, Anthony Davis trade when you trade a player on a max contract..you have the flexibility of 3 and four team deals also..trading Cade is a bad idea

Well..He's right! Cade turned the ball over allot, and slowed the tempo of the offense. Cade is not untradeable, but if you trade him, it better be for a dude that can hoop foreal.

We need 1-4 to be at least really good shooters, at least 3 decent defenders, and Duran and Wiseman at 5.

This is beyond goofy. Saying you don’t need stew shooting threes when damn near every PF or C in modern basketball can shoot threes tells me everything I need to know about how much you, 1 Know about basketball and 2 how much you actually watched the team this year. Stew was one of the few good players we had. You put him on a playoff team I guarantee you won’t see people complaining about him shooting 38% from three. Lmfao and for the love of god, stop talking about TRADING CADE. terrible terrible terrible, do better. And the 03 tigers team you brought up, brought back a good amount of those same players.

There were definitely players on that 0-16 team that went to the playoffs with them. Calvin was on that team.

@wiseguy8100

5 күн бұрын

Also Inge, Dmitri Young, Bonderman, and Nate Robertson were on both Tigers teams.

2:45 calvin johnson and Cliff Avril

He right we need too build a team tooo win and fit the system.

Problem is, Cades suitors are more than likely to compete for championships - at the very least playoffs, practically nulling the draft value.

Trading Cade will not endear goodwill to this organization. Other big time potential free agents may see that as a betrayal and may not want to come to Detroit. I really don't even want to trade Ivey, because he has a heart for Detroit. For whatever reason, it seems like this franchise has difficulty attracting free-agents. Let's not make it more difficult.

Comparing jump out of the gym Maxiel to Stewart is ridiculous. Outside of their bodies their games are very different.

Dude literally said that ANYBODY can get traded including Ivey. Why is everyone tryna project a narrative that he wants everyone gone EXCEPT Ivey?? People literally be arguing with themselves out loud 🤣

Wanting only Ivey is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

@philosoqhy

5 күн бұрын

With Ivey as priority #1 next to the focal core, Ivey avg 22&6 in which Pistons had a 40% win percentage. Keep in mind that's next to inadequate fits via Duren, Ausar & Killian.

@Jamar-lg9ob

5 күн бұрын

​@@philosoqhyfacts Ivey hate need to stop

@matta566

5 күн бұрын

I'm a massive Ivey fan, I think he got shafted by Monty, but to say he's the only player to hold onto is retarded

@rokellc

5 күн бұрын

@@Jamar-lg9ob Nobody hates Ivey. Everyone loves Ivey. But Cade is the future of this team. EVERYONE needs to be able to compliment him.

@Jamar-lg9ob

5 күн бұрын

@@rokellc cade ain't earn future of team Ivey just as much future as cade

Trade Cade!!!! 28 straight is NOT a team with a star or generational talent

Also the problem with “sports” guys, is that they all think their take is always right.. there is no consideration for others takes

I can see if Cade was older and trading him bc of last season. But it was basically his year 2. On top of that Ivey lost those games with Cade to. He didn’t look great either. So if we trade Cade he should be traded to.

Stick in fact does not know ball to say we don’t need Stewart to stretch the floor when it would literally make Cades life easier is ignorance

Why do you want to keep Stew? He is injury prone and is out almost half the season, I know I’m over exaggerating but he misses a lot of games.

Also do you think Cleveland is a great destination for free agents or start players? What about Indiana? I’m tired of hearing people don’t want to come here excuse. We as fans even use it as an excuse. Winning fixes everything. We start winning. Free agents will come.

You guys are talking about fitting a system… what system do we have yet? We have no coach, what if Cade is the better fit than Ivey, then what?!? Also, youre talking about a guy who is 3 years in the league and 22years old, saying hes not successful.. maybe he hasnt been what you want yet.. but its year 3

Cade is already maxed. Hes a below average athlete and isn't consistently efficient in any part of the game. Hes not a bad player but there's just no way hes gonna be a lead player on a good team. If I could get a good return on him I'd trade him in a heartbeat. Ivey at least superior athletic ability. He has the potential to be a top player on both offense and defense. I'm not sure he will be but the ability is there. Duren, Thompson and Ivey would be who I'd try to build around.

Whoever is the dude that likes Ivey he gets it.Nobody speaks the truth about Cade just swing from his sack and swear he’s the savior he’s good but when Ivey is at the healm running the show the team pace is better he lead us to some of the few wins we had this previous season without Cade

Cade and Duren are bucket it’s literally everybody else

After a take like that. He needs to start working at 97.1 the ticket, SMH!!! Obviously you don’t watch basketball

They didn’t trade Grant Hill 😂.

Stewart is a young PJ Tucker

I know you are trying to get clicks but trading Cade is a stupid take

Yes...trade Cade to get picks and young players so you can hope to find another....Cade.

Did this guy just lie and said beef stew shoot 38 % from 3 pt !!!!!!! Wow he didn’t shoot over 32 % this guy is horrible

He was right stats on bad team mean nothing facts.

Calvin was on the 0-16 lions....guess we should have cut him

Who is this guy that doesn’t know anything about the NBA and why would I care about his opinion. Stew shot almost 40% from 3. Why would you not want him shooting and spacing the floor?

Terrible take… we have “a guy” in Cade…. So if we trade him, what?!? We trade for another Cade Cunningham??? Build around him everyone else is expendable…. And Jaden numbers got worse in year 2 how are you comparing????

ABG: anybody can get it

Stick brain dead. i’m w Sam on this one. that brotha has common sense 🤝🏾.

Poison ivy

Stewart is the only one i want gone

stick is bonkers. lol. what a joke.

0 basketball knowledge.

cade is trash and ok with losing he doesn't know how to stop the bleeding and get to the free throw line when teams are on a run against us all he scores garbage points when we were down by like 20 points and teams have relaxed their defense HE'S NOT BUILT FORD TOUGH

@IAmAbundunt

5 күн бұрын

You got Cade fked up

@macrogaines9762

5 күн бұрын

U got Cade bent bro has no team and been dealing with injuries everytime he have a matchup against his draft class he show up watch when he get some pieces around him

@JimFG

5 күн бұрын

This take is trash. You must not watch him much if you think he doesn’t try to get to the line only to have the refs swallow their whistles.

@droopyfaces

5 күн бұрын

Cade is trash not only that he sits games when it's competition he's a bonified loser you all will see most of his points come in garbage time he's not a team player watch you'll see

@droopyfaces

5 күн бұрын

@IAmAbundunt too funny cade does nothing but score his garbage points and lose

Woodward just sucks now….Sam Flannel needs to go…..

Terrible Take on Cade

Losing respect for Woodward sports. It's probably time to shut it down and put in a classic country music channel.

@IAmAbundunt

5 күн бұрын

Shid, I love the passion… but I’m black so, it’s a black thing…. Good 💩fellas👏🏾

I actually understand what Stick is saying. Obviously Cade is a better player, but at our current state of a roster, we would get much more back and a chance to have a more improved roster along with the cap space we have. I agree that Ivey needs to get better with shooting, however, you cant ignore him being in the doghouse with Monty this past season. At this point, i just want to become a perennial playoff contender again and we've got a long way to go regardless.

Would you take Stafford or Goff? Wins matter.

This group of guys look at basketball like it’s a game of NBA 2K…they suck

Trade Cade build around Ivey duren Ausar

Y'all might need to stick to the Lions because these Pistons' takes are horrible.

Cade the goat resign trade ivey