Remember when Dr Boom was considered utterly broken and unbalanced? Good times.

@ShiningNorthStars

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and now dr boom in 2022 is pure garbage

@InsertTheCoin1997

2 жыл бұрын

Turned out, Dr Boom was just the beginning

@TheMayk0lXD

2 жыл бұрын

:')

@adriangar95

2 жыл бұрын

Ando remember 4 mana 7/7...

@jare3459

2 жыл бұрын

no because he never was now Frozen thrown Priest now that was broken like no other class could do 30+ Damage for basically no coast in one turn (not even Hunter today cannot do that with ability like priest old one) or Shaman do so many battlecrys your turn is over be for can make a move combo/Endless gain all they need do fix priest and mage and everything be good

*Then:* Haha! This 4 mana taunt minion will buy me a turn or two, I'm back in this!!! *Now:* This will summon a full board with rush, divine shield and taunt... but I'm probably still dead.

@infradig696

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, needs to be rush, divine shield, taunt, and lifesteal to stay alive. Windfury to win.

@andrewgrow5711

Жыл бұрын

i hope we get rotating classic format

@felagundfinrod6117

Жыл бұрын

good old times

@AA-jv6ob

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewgrow5711 but how will bli$$ard milk more money out of that?

@andrewgrow5711

Жыл бұрын

@@AA-jv6ob because all of the older sets just sit there, all people buy are the new sets, if there's a rotating classic they can market those old cards again, should be worth because the cards already exist

2016: a battle of efficient plays 2022: playing flashy solitaire

@BasedHorrigan

Жыл бұрын

True

@captaincool6268

Жыл бұрын

Sooo its basically Yugioh Now

I'm glad that I've been able to experience the golden age of hearthstone.

@goochipoochie

Жыл бұрын

There is no golden age of Hearthstone, it has always been garbage I am a day1 player. Every expansion then the general public consensus was "it has great potential it will become awesome in the future and all current issues will be fixed" Directly fast forward to today

@rattiusr6418

Жыл бұрын

its not even that it was good back then its just worse now.

@shapeborja5291

Жыл бұрын

​You're day 1? That's psychotic tbh, who tf would play a game they know is trash since day 1 up to today? And if you say you don't play the recent expansions anymore then say its garbage, that's just plain biased even though its probably true. HS sucks but your msg sounds so braindead

@ovcharkaboxing

Жыл бұрын

it was great back in the early days when naxx came out and for a few years after. its utter shit now. greedy bastards ruined a very good game. slow clap

@ferreiram32

Жыл бұрын

​@@goochipoochieHate to say it, but you're absolutely right. I played that era, started in late 2014.

I love how Blizzard systematically ruined every game they have.

@The-jy3yq

2 жыл бұрын

They didn't ruin Warcraft 1, Warcraft 2, Diablo 1 and Starcraft 1 I mean, they dropped into obscurity, but at least they stayed the same(Remastered even got better) as they were on launch

@markozivkovic8895

Жыл бұрын

@@The-jy3yq Yeah, its more the games after 2000's

@rt_huxley9205

Жыл бұрын

They haven't ruined Overwatch....yet... *Edit* OK FINE. THEY FUCKED IT UP. YA HAPPY NOW?!?!

@petercolbeysgameshowmania7176

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think Hearthstone is ruined, per se. I love the additions of Battlegrounds and Mercenaries!

@rt_huxley9205

Жыл бұрын

@GeGe Maybe if your some hardcore OG person.

2016: 1 mana 12 12 thanks to a 9 mana cost minion. 2022: 3 mana 24 24 thanks to 3 cost spell.

@Adusakful

2 жыл бұрын

You can topple it with Boar with darkness, with that card that copies the minion but leaving it with 1 hp 4 mana 40/21 with charge

@illidanstormrage9149

2 жыл бұрын

@@Adusakful Fair and balanced.

@mangouschase

2 жыл бұрын

@@illidanstormrage9149 perfectly balanced

@dangerwildman7051

Жыл бұрын

@@mangouschase As all things should be

@user-gj4dd9et7j

Жыл бұрын

@@dangerwildman7051 in our dreams...

I unironically actually enjoyed old Hearthstone more tbh. While I do like some of the more creative effects of newer cards, most are way too overtuned just for the sake of it

@DuskEalain

2 жыл бұрын

I think the issue lies less with card design and more player ignorance. Old Hearthstone had it's stupidly OP decks/combos too, but since it was so new to the scene you only really saw them in high rank play or the occasional stream/video. Now a new expansion releases and within 48 hours there's a billion KZread videos, Reddit threads, and Twitch streamers showing off "TEH MOST OH-PEE DEEK EVAR IN HARTHSTOON?@!@?#!@?#1?#!" and so everyone and their dog knows the most efficient/busted deck/combo in the game and starts oversaturating it.

@TheKingKornflakes

2 жыл бұрын

nah power creep killed my favorite game of all time. I miss old school card advantage hearthstone. winning games because you were up 1 card was such an amazing feeling

@DuskEalain

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheKingKornflakes I mean the video literally showcases 9-Mana Aviana. Zoolock was a thing all over the higher rankings, and was basically the precursor to all the aggro decks we have today (have a bell-curve of minions to throw out until you throw out the big guy turn 5-7 for lethal). Old Hearthstone was great, don't kid me wrong, but if you take off the rose-tinted glasses of nostalgia you'll notice most of the problems in modern Hearthstone had some sort of precedent in the game's earliest forms.

@RuneKillerz109

2 жыл бұрын

@@DuskEalain no the problen lies completely within power creep and card design here. Yes old hearthstone has had its tier 0 decks like secret pala, but these decks are just becoming more and more normal. The limited format did nothing to disrupt power creep which was one of the things hoped for. Hearthstone also feels more like ygo in the mid-late game, which isn't what we were here for. Hearthstone has been this grind fiesta back in the day and that's why i played it. Hell there were deck archetypes literally called e.g. Grind mage. These just could not exist anymore.

@richardsejour7731

2 жыл бұрын

@@RuneKillerz109 thank you for correcting him as he clearly has no idea wtf he is taking about. Hearthstone is quickly becoming like ygo where decks and mechanics are designed to exist as a pre-built theme as opposed to general mechanics to diversify gameplay. Questlines and Voyage to the sunken city are the greatest offender of this.

Ah yes when turn 1 chilldwind yeti was considered amazing play.

@dr.freeman8983

2 жыл бұрын

Amazing? 99% of times it was an insta concede for opponent Lol Ahhh, good old times

@Kupferdrahtful

2 жыл бұрын

@@dr.freeman8983 no it isn’t in traditional no good player would concede to turn 1 yeti

@jackspedicy2711

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kupferdrahtful you have not played heartstone in 2016... neither have i, but looking at gameplay from it, getting like 12 free damage from 3 turns of attacking with the yeti in seems disasterous

@Kupferdrahtful

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackspedicy2711 of course I have, at high legend even

@quantummidget

2 жыл бұрын

Hell, just playing yeti on curve was strong

2017: murloc paladin is annoying 2022: double 12/12 murloc with rush in 4 turn

@10_Faceless_01

2 жыл бұрын

Boomsday: APM boar priest is annoying 2022 - wild: double 20/20 boar with charge in turn 2

@Gaze73

Жыл бұрын

Why the hell did he absorb Deathwing's stats on draw? I quit when DH came out.

@shaheedk.3386

Жыл бұрын

Man I fondly remember Kripparian getting salty over the infamous shaman card: 4 mana 7/7 (Flamewreathed Faceless)

I personally think that the game peaked in the old gods expansion. That one was so fun.

@techmaster9775

2 жыл бұрын

Old gods was great. Knights of the Frozen Throne was also cool

@EimerEimer

2 жыл бұрын

this.

@EteamProductions

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@jwj4535

2 жыл бұрын

C'thun decks were the most fun decks I have ever played

@EimerEimer

2 жыл бұрын

@@jwj4535 I wish I could play my old c'thun druid from back then, but Innervate gives you only one mana now :(

Back then you didn't need to worry about dying on turn 8 when you have 30 health and 10 armor.

@EarthwormJim13

Жыл бұрын

Make it 40 health now.

@m.b7030

Жыл бұрын

Jokes on you, worgen OTK/ Freeze mage with 0 mana infinite fireballs and many more were a thing back then

@polololo17

Жыл бұрын

@@m.b7030 THAT WAS ON TURN 10-12

@gigastrike2

Жыл бұрын

@@polololo17 That's just two more turns of your entire board being frozen and your opponent being literally unkillable.

I Miss the times where Control Decks could actually Beat Aggro

@phanhuyduc2395

2 жыл бұрын

Play Control Paladin . More fun than CW and eat aggro

@al3exify

2 жыл бұрын

They still can Kaiba. You just have to believe in the heart of the cards

@sirsetokaiba9982

2 жыл бұрын

@@al3exify xD

@theopalacin5307

2 жыл бұрын

Fatigue warrior main here. And i even managed to have a positive winrate agaisnt big priest back in the days. It's not only you cant even beat warrior pirate or razakus hunter. But also you cant win any rogue/priest/warlock. Any kazakusan is too much value/tempo/card refill I mean... It is just impossible to play control in wild. Only cube/control warlock because it's busted af. And still you have to wake up very early to get a positive winrate.

@LeonOwO

2 жыл бұрын

so current meta?

I feel like Hearthstone was as successful as it was because game progression felt natural. As players gain more mana, naturally more wild and crazy shit could come out. It seems the developers kinda forgot about that.

@salach1049

Жыл бұрын

it all started when Ben Brode left :-(

@abigbutterstick1780

Жыл бұрын

My friend and I started playing again a few weeks back and I said this exact thing to him. Something like "it feels like people are getting crazy boards so early you don't have anyway to deal with it. You just have to try and be crazier." I miss play and counter play.

@megazerosaber

Жыл бұрын

@@salach1049 No, we still got broken stuff while Brode was still there, just not to the extent we're seeing now. The key difference is that he realized some cards were too strong but didn't push back hard enough to change them at launch.

@BigJuice69

Жыл бұрын

@@salach1049 So glad he did though cause now he's worked on marvel snap!

@El_Chuchuca

11 ай бұрын

​@@salach1049Ben Brode literally killed Patron Warrior nerfing its core card to the ground (not patron actually) which was never meta since launch.

Man I miss the C’thun days, lowkey that and frozen throne were probably my favorite times in hearthstone. Those death knight hero cards were the coolest thing ever 😂😂 won’t ever be the same it seems

I never really bothered to try climbing the ladder after a certain point, just messing around with solo quests and battlegrounds. Come sunken city and I’ve fallen in love with Abyssal Curses, they’re lovely. Started doing ranked again, but now I understand the pain of Pirate Warrior, almost consistent turn 5-7 kills. Very cool.

@andrecrispim3209

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it takes so much skill 🤡

@liveandletdie4233

2 жыл бұрын

Getting to legend is a waste of time.

@andrecrispim3209

2 жыл бұрын

@@liveandletdie4233 it’s cool, at least you got rewards and card back. My max was platinum 4.

@phanhuyduc2395

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrecrispim3209 actually if you want to go to legend it still need more skill than you think. Since your best in plat 4 , I bet you can not make it to Legend even if you use PW

@JanLCn

2 жыл бұрын

I'm the guy who plays pirate warrior all the way past diamond ':D

back when Chillwind Yeti was a thing.

@alex-sh3zy

Жыл бұрын

dogshit times

@julianluongo8031

Жыл бұрын

chilldwind yeti turn 1 video is legend

Every time that i consider installing hearthstone again, i watch this video.

@mikebike4820

Жыл бұрын

Try Gwent

@Loality

11 ай бұрын

​@@mikebike4820 Gwent good?

Hearthstone has become like Yu-Gi-Oh In the early ages it was fun to play and had a really good mechanic going on, nowadays you play one card that does it all and you win the game in one or two turns

@luizpeloso1744

2 жыл бұрын

The unique difference is that yugioh requires having brain cells

@obbiem9274

2 жыл бұрын

@@luizpeloso1744 but you also lose your brain cells every second its not your turn

@Soulsnatcher89

2 жыл бұрын

@@luizpeloso1744 since when? You build the deck and it plays itself in YGO and has since 2016. YGO has gone wildly out of control

@RCFL810

2 жыл бұрын

Sad but true

@rafaelcastor2089

2 жыл бұрын

@@Soulsnatcher89 Depends on the deck and what you're up against. Even when your deck has basically one combo, you still need to think about your Ash, Droll n Lock, Veilers, Infinite Impermanences, CbtG, Crossouts... And these are generic staples any deck will have, we're not even talking about control decks yet. Saying you don't have to think about your plays is either a very unfair exaggeration or something said by someone who doesn't actually play the game. Don't get me wrong though. It *IS* incredibly annoying how the game evolved to the point where your opening hand is so important

I miss the time when hearing "put your faith in the Light! ( _desideratus bellum!_ )" meant that I was not going to be taking damage for the next 2 or 3 turns (except if the enemy mage hadn't already used both Polymorphs).

@HC-qc5rp

Жыл бұрын

This comment put it better than anyone else could

I think the most disappointing thing about hearthstone is that minion trading is no longer a thing whatsoever

@Syngrafer

2 жыл бұрын

Really? I started in the beta and quit forever shortly after the releases of Rastakhan’s Rumble. Does everyone just go face with everything now?

@UltimaKrecia

2 жыл бұрын

@@Syngrafer the last time i played was in the stormwind Expansion and half the decks didnt use minions.

@Syngrafer

2 жыл бұрын

@@UltimaKrecia That sounds weird. How is a typical game played these days?

@UltimaKrecia

2 жыл бұрын

@@Syngrafer half the decks you encounter would be mage and warlock. Mage had a stupid quest with the reward giving a permanent +3 spell damage, so it was just run through your deck casting spells as they were required to progress the questline. Others were warlocks with their quest, when they took damage on their turn you would instead. They would also just run through their deck until fatigue. I believe they also had close to no minions. You running minions would only give them targets for the spells to progress the quest, so running minions only helped them. Reaching 10 mana was special.

@Syngrafer

2 жыл бұрын

@@UltimaKrecia That sounds pretty stupid, compared to what I was used to back in 2017 or so. Maybe that's why I keep hearing that most people just play battlegrounds now, not Standard.

I stopped playing hearthstone since last year but damn.... Thanks for the 2016 nostalgia. Remembered having a good time playing these with my friends back in college... Really miss them so much 😭

I downloaded this game again last month, played 2 games and almost cried, they literally destroyed a perfect game, one of the goat

Slowly becoming Yu Gi Oh? Basically the same thing. Old school yugioh was fun and now its literally turn 1 mega combo kills.

@friendlyneighborhoodtotall1902

2 жыл бұрын

that literally almost never happens if you have half a brain cell you would put hand traps in your deck that stop any kind of turn 1 kill from going off

@drewpeacock9087

2 жыл бұрын

@@friendlyneighborhoodtotall1902 It's still stupid that it can at all

@nidogh5938

2 жыл бұрын

@@friendlyneighborhoodtotall1902 hands trap is the worst mechanic ever. If you NEED put 5-10 cards in your deck to stop your oponent game JUST to have a change to play the game bcs if you dont, he can climb to a omni negate board. Is just not funny. Thats the reason why ygo dont have so many players.

@JohnSmith-ox3gy

2 жыл бұрын

@@friendlyneighborhoodtotall1902 Tech is not a replacement for game design.

@JohnSmith-ox3gy

2 жыл бұрын

@@friendlyneighborhoodtotall1902 MTG has counter spells but it is not a very fun mechanic. Somehow there are still fundamentally broken cards that bypass what makes the game interesting or enjoyable.

2016: How can I do more than 10 mana with 10 mana. Do I build a deck around it that requires minions being killed then resummoned? Do I play a powerful minion that costs 9 mana? Do I have only 1 copy of every card? 2022: Blizzards prints cards that cast 20 mana worth of spells, can be discounted, can be replayed with a battlecry minion. Here is a hero which will give you up to 20 mana. Here are cards that reduce the mana cost of all cards. Thanks blizzard!

@rekamud6635

2 жыл бұрын

instead of fine tuning the game, they tune out your wallet

@TheMADmk

Жыл бұрын

@@rekamud6635 it's even worse now with some of the most obnoxious sh@t I've ever seen. Jokes on blizzard though I won't spend a dime I'm just going to run the cheapest net decks until I get bored.

@rekamud6635

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMADmk u from macedonia?

@TheMADmk

Жыл бұрын

@@rekamud6635 I'm afraid not.

@alexander9071

Жыл бұрын

…Aviana Kun has been in the game for ages and only costs 2 deckslots…..

HS Classic (Naxx to Explorers) was for me a nearly perfect Game. I loved the value a card had, i loved having only a small amount of real counters, i loved the way decs where formed and played.

I just came back to hearthstone after a couple of years and I remember the rng debate back then. Its now rng mayhem. You nailed the video +1 for you :)

Thanks for making me feel old, Legend Stuff. I needed to see the gray streaks in my hair. Very prestigious.

Hitting an extra card on NAT Pagle in 2014-2015 was awesome.

@sausfabriek6458

5 ай бұрын

😢

@SigfriedDoggart

3 ай бұрын

there's a card now that gets a draw guaranteed and it's only 1 mana more with attack stats

Remember when 4 mana 7/7 Overload was considered busted? Good times

I really think Quest Rogue and Pirate Warrior (the old one) were the beginning of the end for me. Once I saw aggro decks that could throw in *one* card and suddenly out-value control decks in 20+ round games I decided that I’d sometimes watch other people play, and that’s about it.

@virtualworld2231

2 жыл бұрын

yeah i recently got back to hearthstone and man its even more pay to win game whats wrong with teh developers they are like beggars trying to ripp money at any cost

@Khorn1996

Жыл бұрын

@@virtualworld2231 I just got back and I think it became more f2p friendly. All these rewards from quests (dunno how's the new system called). Free legendaries, solid starting cards. Hell, they even brought buffed azure drake in standard. I'm casul though, silver and all. But I like to spend an hour or two on the game.

@doubleline7351

Жыл бұрын

IM IN CHARRRGE HERE

@shinoharuv2519

Жыл бұрын

quest hunter in wild and secret mage is also quite a pain in the ass. when I see these decks I'm usually in survival mode rather than trying to beat the opponent

@TheMADmk

Жыл бұрын

@@shinoharuv2519 yh the quest hunter is obnoxious insanity where there entire deck consists of spells that demolish any minion you put out. Then their hero power can target minions and refreshes when they cast spells! Who the f thought that was fun or balanced.

Hearthstone in 2022: We have an aggro deck that also have infinite value (Pirate Warrior), and an aggro deck who's is also a combo deck (Mech Mage)

@sosukelele

2 жыл бұрын

Tbf, aggro decks also had infinte value in 2017, since deathstalker rexxar and kingsbane came out with KotFT. Combo aggro decks were a thing since at least oil rogue (if we don't count force of nature + savage roar, or other Leroy shenanigans). Were those despised as well? Yeah, but we've been at this song and dance for at least 5 years by now

@Snipfragueur

2 жыл бұрын

@@sosukelele Deathstaker Rexxar was not played in Face Hunter tho, it was played in Midrange hunter, which is a midrange deck not an aggro deck.

@briscoletta5182

2 жыл бұрын

@@Snipfragueur even in facehunter

@ardaoguzhan8181

2 жыл бұрын

@@sosukelele and kingsbane can be countered by the 5 mana 4/4 pirate literally win the game against kingsbane rogue

@ardaoguzhan8181

2 жыл бұрын

@@Snipfragueur Don't forget about the potential otk with 1 mana smite thx to the colossal. Turns out giving an aggro deck infinite value/otk potential is strong who could guessed

I haven't played this game in over two years. I will continue like this for a few more years.

2013: Mass silence + card = 4 mana 2022: Mass silence + trade = 1 mana

@Maniuszka25

3 ай бұрын

I Remember time when senjin shieldmaster was good taunt.

I play hearthstone since 2014 and today in 2022 its like the evolution of Yu-gi-oh about all the quick effects of the cards, i like it but i miss the oldschool hearthstone

@MasterMojo85

Жыл бұрын

The only thing I think is actually cool are the categorized spells (fire, ice, etc).

Solution, make a game mode with a changing set of allowed expansions. Like a combination of wild (any expansion) and standard, maximum of 6 expansions and a core set. Change it every month (or per expansion). That would keep it a bit fresh.

@douglas29x

2 жыл бұрын

Well, i don't have dust for that, so, please no.

@satibel

2 жыл бұрын

You mean arena?

@Kupferdrahtful

2 жыл бұрын

Traditional is the answer can’t wait for naxx and gvg. The golden years

@KapMuxTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@satibel well arena, you draft. I’m still suggesting constructed format

@KapMuxTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@douglas29x well you can’t win them all. I’m suggesting a new mode, not to change any current existing ones. At least this is for people who don’t disenchant their cards and wants constant meta change.

Loved the expansions from before. They were amazing. Big turning point when I started playing the game a while back was Ungoro. KotFT was even better, loved the idea of changing the main 9 classes to their DK counterparts. I haven't really caught up on the expansions since I last seen the Scholarly Mage one.

Первая ошибка ХС была "Большой турнир". И дальше каждым гвоздём в крышку гроба являлась каждая новая карта, которая фармила новые карты из "ничего", тем самым убивая основной принцип игры: расчёт всей своей колоды из 30 карт на матч. Из-за этого увеличение рандома быстро перенёс ХС из спортивной дисциплины в дисциплину простого развлечения.

I've played at least 500 games of Renolock back in the day. It was a very fair deck where if you Reno'd agro, you'd usually win. Thing that pisses me off the most about current hearthstone is that if you win against agro in the early game, they can STILL OTK you in the late game. I thought agro shaman was bad back in the day, but this current meta is a cosmic joke.

@alex-sh3zy

Жыл бұрын

literal skill issue. and also renolock was such a bs deck, draw reno turn 6 = win, dont draw = lose. very fun i see

@gorgeousnoxy481

Жыл бұрын

@@alex-sh3zy lol you proceed to talk about skill issues then try to reduce the most diverse deck ever made in hearthstone to a binary of draw Reno and win or lose. Sounds like you have the skill issues, along with mental ones too. I had several different versions of Renolock to handle different metas and often I didn't even need Reno to win because my mitigation cards against agro worked so well. For example, holding Kazakus for a turn 5 board clear and put a body on the board was usually pretty effective. Vs exodia mage or combo decks involving minions, all I had to do was hold onto dirty rat, bran combo with siphon soul to ensure I pulled out achemage and nuked their win condition. I literally knew pretty much every deck I was playing against before I played it and mulliganed and saved cards for that specific match up. These days it doesn't really matter what you try to tech against with a Reno deck because it's win ratio is so bad and it's carry cards are too that it is pointless. I used to have a death rattle N'Zoth version of Reno back in the day that was very powerful. I also made a version with just demons and Malganus that was sneaky and involved 6 dreadsteeds being buffed and ruining you. They were fun and diverse, unlike the current game. Now hearthstone has been reduced yet again to pick one of the 12 archetypes and play it or lose. Zzz 😴

@alex-sh3zy

Жыл бұрын

@@gorgeousnoxy481 nice essay buddy! keep coping!

@alex-sh3zy

Жыл бұрын

@@gorgeousnoxy481 also you can still play reno decks and peform well? i really dont see the issue? u just have to play the matchups diffrent, and learn the new decks?

@gorgeousnoxy481

Жыл бұрын

@@alex-sh3zy Yeah, sorry I can express myself intellectually with big words and proper grammar. I can see that's not your strong suit in life.

I've recently returned to Hearthstone and I am having fun, but man I do miss the old days...

I miss the times when i wouldn't lose to my opponent playing 40 Mana of stuff on Turn 6

I played Hearstone in its golden age and still play Yuguioh, and I didn't think Hearstone would top this one in terms of monster spamming and even longer turns

Контроль мета. Помним , любим , скорбим .

Acolyte of pain is a 3 mana cars but if it were released today i am pretty sure that it would be a 1 mana card lol

Next expansion entirely focused on healing to counter all of that xd

Old hearthstone meta is so nostalgic :D !

It's time to move on to classic Hearthstone

@user-nw4si3jq3w

2 жыл бұрын

It's shit, everyone plays the same 4-5 decks, no variety, no noob players, everyone is a pro and plays the most broken deck, some cards are not played at all, it's not like you remember it in 2016, i tried playing and almost puked from the same freaking deck over and over again.

@nikmerkulov2790

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-nw4si3jq3w It's exactly as it was in 2016, everyone play same decks switching couple cards adjusting to pocket meta, mastering their understanding of the game and counting probabilities. If you want to play green cards for the sake of it then play standard.

@alex-sh3zy

Жыл бұрын

@@user-nw4si3jq3w so you are mad, caus you are bad?

@crimsonfanzine9341

Жыл бұрын

@@user-nw4si3jq3w Ah yes. The goold old "rose tinted googles" argument. Ofc it is not that people just want a play a more simple, casual game. No. They are delusional ofc - this argument worked so well for wow classic too, until it became more popular than current wow for like half a year. Ppl tend to forget that HS became popular because it was a simple and coosy game literally ANYBODY could learn and pick up and play for a couple matches to play every day. Introducing so much more mechanics and making it so competitive heavy resultled exactly what you see today: wallheim being more watched on twitch than HS. Sure the "nostalgia". Facepalm.

I've never played hearthstone but was thinking about playing it, anything I should know about? Also, if you're looking for something similar, consider giving inscryption a try - a layer part has similar mechanics.

coming back to this since argent crusade had me so confused. still managed to win my 1st game with mech mage though

This is big reason why I believe card games need to have a big reset every once in a while. Because it just gets to confusing with too many different mechanics to keep up with.

@drewpeacock9087

2 жыл бұрын

They have sets rotating, they just keep cranking out crazier and crazier cards.

@MrHostile12

Жыл бұрын

I started with Knights of the frozen throne and after a while it was manageable but now that I have missed every expansions since Witchwood I don't even recognize the game

@ANALFISTINGVAN

Жыл бұрын

Have you even played hearthstone for once? They have sets rotating

2016-2017 was peak hearthstone

@alex-sh3zy

Жыл бұрын

no its wasnt, stop the cope

"Who am I, None of your Business" (Secret noise) ... the Victory is yours.

This video made me feel old. I miss the good ol' times. I've dropped HS in like 2019 and have no regrets! I think the tipping point was Ben Brode leaving. It just wasn't the same without his laughs at presentations. The Blitzchung affair was just the nail in the coffin for me.

The main problem is that with the current state of the game you cannot even defend yourself in many situations when you know the right play . Some days ago : I had 33 health , no minion on the board . The opponent killed me in 1 round at 6-7 mana . There was no chance to defend it . This is not too fun at all .

I loved playing shaman with a spell summoning 4 Murlocs then evolving them all and hope for something good

they should produce a proper, premium physical version with a 3d playing box for the arena, the 3d textures on the card backs etc, and only drop extensions once a year. some people just want to play with their friends and not keep track of a meta

its funny how HS from 2016 is now basically how u should play arena, there are no REAL INSANE combo's, a lot of straight up good cards alone and just gotta be efficient with ur cards, like smart trades, playing on curve and shit like that

This is so accurate! Some cards are an utter joke, basically "win the game". Onyxia for 10 mana summoning 2/1 charges and immune is a frustration in the arena making me want to uninstall the game every damn time. It used to take some skill AND luck to win games. Now it's only luck.

@timonkohler4339

Жыл бұрын

Well in standard onyxia aint a problem for my control lock, i got like 10+ aoe variants :D

i played that old times, like 2016-18 until the heroes that change your hero expansion, then i came back this month and still a pretty good game imo

this clasic Malygos druid is it playable in clasic ranked or wild ? if yes can you give me the code please ?

Thats why classic is so great. Hearthstone needs more of it. Year 1 lobbies. Year and and 2 lobbies. That would be amazing.

@trompell0

2 жыл бұрын

I like the idea. I only play classic anymore because standard just makes me feel terrible the cards are so unbelievably stupid.

@drewpeacock9087

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! And also maybe some custom metas with a set or two out of time making it into rotation. Some recent sets just completely overshadow old ones though so they would have to curate it carefully.

@tizza963

2 жыл бұрын

@@drewpeacock9087 Totally agree. I remember when knife juggler and Implosion was the most controversial shit in the game. Now its really out of hand. Classic is great but i want more of the older stuff 🤣

@jwj4535

2 жыл бұрын

Classic is dead so this is clearly an unpopular opinion

It's slowly become yu-gi-oh without handtrap at this point.

@Hann61669

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe blizzard will add hand traps later on lol

Back in 2016 it was rare for me to get killed in a few turns now it’s every few days I come across someone who has such a powerful deck, that optimizing customized that they can beat me into returns or less

haha the choice of music for the "old times" made me laugh a lot :D

The funny thing about this is I would've considered ramp druid to be the absolutely busted deck in old hearthstone too

Watching this now, it seems that the game has gone from "player vs. player in tests of skill and luck" to just "rock paper scissors who wins first"

made my day , music was great in both versions .

Parts of it are wild. You dont have to play wild if you dont like. Other parts like the one with naga mage are cutted as if he just dumps stuff onto the board which isnt the case. It requieres set up and stuff lol.

I loved older hearthstone decks, using decks like jade shaman/rogue/druid, elemental Mage, demon warlock and especially dragon Priest. Galakrond decks were also fun, I never liked heavy combo decks where everything revolved around a certain combo. I enjoyed the classic value based decks and gameplay.

@20the20

2 жыл бұрын

Remember force of nature + savage roar + innervate + savage roar? Remember Leeroy + power overwhelming + Faceless manipulator + Soulfire + Soulfire? Remember Leeroy + shadowstep + shadowstep + cold blood + cold blood? There are definitely more combos in the game today but there were popular heavy combo decks since day 1 of hearthstone. This is not a new feature.

@mr.nazareth4501

2 жыл бұрын

@@20the20 he never said they didn't exist back then, just that he enjoyed the value decks more. Shit, he even acknowledges they existed with the line "i never *liked* heavy combo decks"

A friend of mine got me into Heartstone during GvG, I put in a good three years and maybe $1000 in cards. This game makes me so angry. The same few ideas get recycled into new cards you have to buy each cycle to be competitive, and the meta never improves, card designs and interactions will sometimes deliberately work around existing mechanics (silence for example with Caverns Rogue wrecked Priest when Silence could have been good and promoted then Core cards). Playing the game was more about making up for lost ego than ever having fun, with so many degenerate decks always there to stomp you out. I hate this game.

@jwj4535

2 жыл бұрын

I have never put money into the game to be competitive, and right now I have around 9 decks and 9k dust. WTf did you need to spend $1000 for? 🤣

@BrandonZeeb

2 жыл бұрын

@@jwj4535 Nice work! To get enough dust to craft decks from playing alone takes a lot of time, and with a full time job and family that was not possible, if I wanted to play new decks when they would be relevant in the meta.

@jwj4535

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrandonZeeb fair enough, I reached consistency in dust/season when I was in highschool so I had much more time

@BrandonZeeb

2 жыл бұрын

@@jwj4535 Cool, yeah that helps for sure, to have that time. Which classes did you prefer to main? I was pretty hard into Priest, which was a path of punishment for sure 😅

@jwj4535

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrandonZeeb zoo warlock 🤣 ~5 min per game

Remeber when the flamewreathed faceless (aka 4 mana 7/7) was considered too op?

opponent: "tazdingo" me: hmmm... how to trade with it... seems no, next turn. this is my memory of hearthstone

Man, I wish when the game was fun and balanced, with just some 4 mana 7/7, Doctor Boom at turn seven, Secret Paladin... now is just a shitshow. At least Mage still can OTK you while ignoring the board all game, at least that's some consistency.

honestly, that's the exact evolution every card game goes through. That's just how it is. In this one regard, don't blame blizzard. That's just how card games work. They have to make the cards better and more interesting. That's why different formats of play are so important. So everyone can enjoy the game the way they like. I think if you can freely play Wild & Standard & Classic, then you already get to choose quite a bit. I think thinking about Hearthstones formats more, will be very important in the future to keep the games longjevity.

@Currywurst4444

Жыл бұрын

Magic the gathering didnt for 20 years starting 1996.

this became yu gi oh with so many "special summons2 so fast i didnt realize

Ironically I started this video and there was commercial with Ben Brode in. Kind of foreshadowing 😄

i think people overvalue the old days like i have more fun and can play for hours on end if i get bored i just play bg, arena or solo player.

@alex-sh3zy

Жыл бұрын

people always glamorize the "good old days" even tho they where just as tilted back then.

Sometimes I think malygos druid is more preferable to the current hearthstone

@mr.nazareth4501

2 жыл бұрын

At least you could mill Malygos druid tho

I remember playing Renolock and having so much fun.

Man all dem feels at the 2016 segments 😩

Ideal: No mana cheats for future expansions, and give that stupid priest combo the saronite mine slave treatment

@alex-sh3zy

Жыл бұрын

sounds boring, go play classic then

Back in the day most classes only had one deck archetype or two and they varied in a few cards, nowadays theres way more variety.

@ManuelRiccobono

2 жыл бұрын

But just 1 for each class is really played.

@davidmorton6406

2 жыл бұрын

Which is not necessarily a good thing. Don't get me wrong having lots of deck options for fun is great, but not ever deck needs to be good AF. Makes for a really terrible and unhealthy game.

@alihorda

2 жыл бұрын

variety? for mage we have mech. for druid ramp, for warrior pirate etc.

@yveshotting3371

2 жыл бұрын

I think the variaty isnt the real problem game lenght and a lac of interaction is

@ManuelRiccobono

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidmorton6406 good as fuck? We have legendaries that are barery playable. You know the legendary naga for druid? We don't even have a 10 mana spell to use on it!

We’ve come quite a long way with this game, haven’t we?

I had imp master, light well, and Northshire cleric and I was happy.

When Hearthstone was a CCG / mathematician paradise VS when Hearthstone was coin flip dice roll paradise.

@alex-sh3zy

Жыл бұрын

coin flip? literal skill issue, stop coping

There are places you just can't explore so deep at the same time in a cardgame without destroying it completely. If you have a mana system, don't break it! discounting mana costs/ramping should be a niche thing with considerable restraints otherwise the parity of tempo is lost. Also never reach a critical number of efficient card draw/tutoring from the deck engines, otherwise the game loses its variability. If both errors have been comitted, you must have a way to disrupt cards that are outside the field to prevent a linear, non-variable and polarized fast agro/inevitable combo dominated meta, which hearthstone's innate design doesn't allow at all. From this perspective, this game is doomed.

@TheTriforceDragon

2 жыл бұрын

Best example currently, Mech Mage. While I understand that it is not the top tier deck, it is frustrating to watch them play their entire hand due to discounts creating a huge synergistic board...and even if you deal with it, the many, many card generating effects of their mechs means that they are often left with a near full hand to start vormiting onto the board again.

@OneCSeven

Жыл бұрын

100% correct. the game expanded its design space so much it allowed for degenerate strategies.

@Currywurst4444

Жыл бұрын

Hearthstones base mechnics are much more limited/stremlined than other card games. They would have to make some fundamental change instead of just adding more and more powerful cards.

I was Competing from 2016 to 2018, I actually miss those days...Hearthstone will never be the same :(

I mean sure, now HS is more complex and a meta is more agressive. But I've noticed that with every expansion players are like "hey, remember the classic?", "remember the first expansion?". Back then HS was all about stats on the board and such. That is why Yeti was considered good. Now there are many things every class can do. One card is broken, that is true, it will be changed soon enough. Old cards like Naxxramas and League of explorers were abscent from wild for the last 4 years at least with the few exceptions like Loatheb, Reno, etc. I can understand that people want to do something that was old and effective, but you can try to give cards a second chance by being creative. Majordomo was given a chance with a Tess interaction, and it was quiete effective! Some old things like inner fire priest hasn't changed except for a few cards that make a combo more consistent. If you don't like current state of the game which I can completely understand, you can play classic mode. But wishing for era when it was all about stats on the board is wierd to me. Edited for grammar.

@hagger4858

2 жыл бұрын

i completely agree. they all also forget stuff like undertaker, jade druid and many other annoying and op decks that didn't get fixed in months. nowaday we atleast have nerfs more than 6 times a year(or less)

@BernieDSniper

2 жыл бұрын

@@hagger4858 and I think you're remembering things worse than they really were. Most classes could answer the undertaker deck fairly consistently, jade druid was only strong after like turn 15, and the conservative card design made release days bearable instead of the clownfest we have now.

@mr.nazareth4501

2 жыл бұрын

I think you're just having a knee jerk reaction to boomerisms. People don't think the old days of Hearthstone were better for no reason, you know.

@hagger4858

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.nazareth4501 the reason is that people forget bad stuff and remember good. that is proven.

@HuehuehueEsBest

Жыл бұрын

@@hagger4858 Or because they liked the older version of it? I agree that it's part of it, but current hearthstone is also just less fun for some people.

There's a reason why ppl don't play hearthstones classic mode,and that's because it's fckin boring.nostalgia is one thing,but the game's better than ever

@BernieDSniper

2 жыл бұрын

This is footage from whisper of the old Gods

I missed out on the latest 3 updates, started to play again a few weeks ago. I feel like Marty McFly when he went into the future We miss u Ben Brode

I remember some years ago i had regularly 9 win or more arenas. But now its more often over at 3 wins. I didn't change my strategy much, i play the trump way of curve, spend mana efficient but i get stomped over regularly by overpowered decks.

@TheZeroban

2 жыл бұрын

Then get better at the game, good players still can easily go infintie

@mr.nazareth4501

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheZeroban y'all always wanna say "get better" but never explain how, might as well not say anything at all, your input is useless.

@TheZeroban

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.nazareth4501 what do you mean how? Draft better decks and make better decisions in game, countless people average over 6 wins, it's not a game problem, it's a you problem

I played in beta and end my history in Kobolds... the best deck I remember was Cubelock, broken and very funny, I miss it

@lucignolo8333

2 жыл бұрын

I miss standard cubelock too, I unlocked the golden warlock with that deck

@guilhermef.cabral8252

Жыл бұрын

This and recruit hunter God I miss recruit hunter

@alex-sh3zy

Жыл бұрын

it was broken, and it wasent funny, people where perma crying back in the days

There were always a couple stronger decks at every point of HS,but that's what meta means. Some decks are generally stronger,but there's always one or two decks that prey on them,and when people start playing them you had to switch to another that preys on them etc... I played since start and I stopped playing HS at FiB because every game started to feel like a shitstorm of RNG with massive impact or low mana plays with unimaginable value and no counterplay regardless of the class. Every turn was taking hella long and filled with frustration either for me or my opponent. There were no winners. Loser would be venting over how he got randomly buttfucked by the rng and winner would feel the uneasyness of having to live the rest of the day with bad luck because he spent all his luck on a 1 mana spell that somehow randomly cleared the board and put multiple minions on the board. Based on my experience and based on videos I see,this is no longer a game,it's just a clown fiesta.

@mertural1083

2 жыл бұрын

Dude you are goddamn right

@mertural1083

2 жыл бұрын

Like my board full with taunts but i still think "probably i dead next turn" then poof

@mertural1083

2 жыл бұрын

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frost mag deck : Hold my beer - Meta on round 3

God, the good old days.

Я так скучаю по этим временам. Я тогда только начинал играть. Игра была такой интересной. Борьба за ресурсы.столько колод. Кто нибнпомнит паладина карте за 10 которая призывала 7 муплоков и через нее и муплоков с рывком побеждали ? Это моя любимая колода

@Filin-1234

Жыл бұрын

Согласен, а сейчас даже с 35 хп тебя пират рога за 5 ходов вынести может

they nerfed aviana cos the combo was too fast *laughs in turn 3 40/40*

@satibel

2 жыл бұрын

Miracle rogue?

@youraveragenikiriumconsume9640

2 жыл бұрын

@@satibel the switcharoo priest.. much worse than any miracle rogue

@satibel

2 жыл бұрын

@@youraveragenikiriumconsume9640 with the edwin kingpin otk deck you can actually get exactly 40/40 stealth on turn 1 with coin (draw and play 18 cards, 10 minions, 2 backstab, 2 shadowstep, 2 prep conceal, and another spell to get a 4/4 with +36/+36.) Switcharoo is easier to hit early though, and you can otk on turn 1 with some luck, but you can get unlucky and draw darkness or boar.

APM druid is a wild deck To make a fair paragon you should have made aggro shaman and secret pala vs gigant druid and apm mage .

bro you make me miss my cthun decks the best deck(behind dragons of course)

Good thing I stopped playing heathstone.

People love to look back to the past with nostalgia but they usually forget all the terrible parts. For example, old school secret paladin was both so strong and so simple to play that bots would hit legend with it.

@invis5042

2 жыл бұрын

The right perspective. Every era of hearthstone has flaws, but I would rather they take risks and innovate and then nerf and buff quickly like they do today, than play things safe every expansion and then when something is overturned they wouldn’t fix it for like 6 months (undertaker for example)

@ninototo1

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah most ppl are sheep like that, always gloryfing the past witout thinking. Classic HS had extremely broken aggro. Remember charge ? Yeah fun times. Or freeze mage, where you couldn't even play the game..

@hagger4858

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninototo1 yes there is a reason standard is more played than classic

@porovaara

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninototo1 poro poro?

@Fitzeru

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah you got a point here, every meta had their own stupid combo decks. But imo it never was as painfull as having a meta full of aggro/combo decks, like nowadays. I mean : that’s ok to have to add some tech cards in your decks in order to counter some strong combos... but now it’s about having ten heals, ten taunts, and maybe ten silences to get a chance to pass turn 5.