Heartbreak for Giulia Imperio | Europeans '24

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While competing at her penultimate last-chance Olympic qualifying event, the European Weightlifting Championships 2024, Giulia Imperio opened up with the weight she would require to make a shot at Olympic qualification. She ranks just outside of the top 10 in the world which she will need to crack if she hopes to qualify for the summer games. Giulia Imperio failed to make her attempts, leaving her with one final shot: The World Cup in Thailand this April.
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  • @WeightliftingHouse
    @WeightliftingHouse3 ай бұрын

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  • @ObviousAlias
    @ObviousAlias3 ай бұрын

    The Italian strategy to qualify for the Olympics makes for great edge-of-the-seat viewing. But it is such a gamble, with the team all opening with weights almost at their max (or literally at their max) just to try to wedge themselves into the top-10. It's an emotional rollercoaster for the athletes and the viewers. When they hit the lift, it's such an exhilarating moment, but when they miss, it's so heartbreaking. But I respect the gamble and the team's commitment to the strategy.

  • @giorgiaceffalia2538

    @giorgiaceffalia2538

    3 ай бұрын

    it's literally everyone's strategy anyway

  • @kittypewpew

    @kittypewpew

    3 ай бұрын

    To be fair, if you are red lining just to get in, how will you have a chance at an olympic medal anyway?

  • @minecraftisbased42069

    @minecraftisbased42069

    3 ай бұрын

    solely competing at the olympics is still pretty cool @@kittypewpew

  • @mikemoore2791

    @mikemoore2791

    3 ай бұрын

    Kinda stupid strategy really.

  • @cheeks7050

    @cheeks7050

    3 ай бұрын

    I hate it, much prefer seeing made lifts.

  • @ClintWalker37
    @ClintWalker373 ай бұрын

    Man, that was so heartbreaking. Good luck in Thailand, young lady.

  • @realistadelnuevoextremo

    @realistadelnuevoextremo

    3 ай бұрын

    how is this heartbreaking??

  • @TheStrategitorium

    @TheStrategitorium

    3 ай бұрын

    @@realistadelnuevoextremo how is it not bro?

  • @realistadelnuevoextremo

    @realistadelnuevoextremo

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TheStrategitorium because its a sport. there's plenty of girls giving their best, is it heartbreaking for everyone who is not 1st place?

  • @TheStrategitorium

    @TheStrategitorium

    3 ай бұрын

    @@realistadelnuevoextremo it can be. Don’t see why not? She’s clearly heartbroken here, she cried.

  • @realistadelnuevoextremo

    @realistadelnuevoextremo

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TheStrategitorium its not dude, its fair as there's rules and BETTER athletes. be happy for the winner 🫡🥰

  • @Lineman22705
    @Lineman227053 ай бұрын

    This girl is a warrior. It’s only going to motivate her to come back stronger. She is one of the best. ❤️

  • @chh7681

    @chh7681

    3 ай бұрын

    warriors don't sit on the floor crying

  • @Festiino

    @Festiino

    3 ай бұрын

    @@chh7681As long as you get back up you’re a warrior. Crying just makes you human

  • @ctye85

    @ctye85

    3 ай бұрын

    @@chh7681 Your parents not hug you enough as a kid? Nothing wrong with crying

  • @HGZie

    @HGZie

    3 ай бұрын

    Woman

  • @GamingAndChill

    @GamingAndChill

    3 ай бұрын

    Bro chill, it's weightlifting, not a battle lol

  • @Nikolayski1337
    @Nikolayski13373 ай бұрын

    Times like these make the athlete stronger!

  • @ZidaneSteiner
    @ZidaneSteiner3 ай бұрын

    bombing out is the worst feeling. Missing weights you know you can make, not knowing why its not clicking today. sucks

  • @jacklauren9359

    @jacklauren9359

    3 ай бұрын

    Bullzhit. She can always make it on ig post but never when it matters! Where was she against the worlds last year? Nowhere to be found yeh? Similar to the other guilia. Its just face aesthetics but they can’t really perform against the best in their weight class.

  • @loicgr5295

    @loicgr5295

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jacklauren9359 lol shut up you probably can't go to the nationals of your own country lol

  • @thechosenone93

    @thechosenone93

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jacklauren9359You’re not lying

  • @michaelgabriel5786

    @michaelgabriel5786

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jacklauren9359 I agree with you. She was not even on the top. Yet there was a lot of hypes about her. I hope she didn't get burned out by too much pressure.

  • @BrunoNeureiter

    @BrunoNeureiter

    3 ай бұрын

    Way to invalidate someone for their face genetics

  • @yvanthepcgamer7993
    @yvanthepcgamer79933 ай бұрын

    I Have watched Imperio since 2020. She is tough as nails. She will make her triumph return.

  • @roncaruso931

    @roncaruso931

    3 ай бұрын

    Why at about 1 minute into the video the camera was focused on her ass? I guess she didnt take enough drugs. Thats why she failed. Shes a loser.

  • @scottshannon6084

    @scottshannon6084

    3 ай бұрын

    My arz.

  • @shawnmann9491

    @shawnmann9491

    3 ай бұрын

    @@scottshannon6084. She wasn’t up to snuff at this event, and she’s crying as her arse literally hits the platform. She’s not that tough , physically or emotionally.

  • @giorgiaceffalia2538

    @giorgiaceffalia2538

    3 ай бұрын

    @@shawnmann9491and..who are you?

  • @krisvalenti4141

    @krisvalenti4141

    3 ай бұрын

    Very surprising to see this , having watched her training.

  • @michaeljhonny9570
    @michaeljhonny95703 ай бұрын

    That slow motion broke my heart too😊

  • @tommasiello
    @tommasiello3 ай бұрын

    this was fucking heartbreaking I was so sure she would make that last save as well... devastated for her, difficult moment for any athlete.

  • @roncaruso931

    @roncaruso931

    3 ай бұрын

    Shut up! Why at about 1 minute into the video the camera was focused on her ass? I guess she didnt take enough drugs. Thats why she failed. Shes a loser.

  • @Matas04

    @Matas04

    3 ай бұрын

    The title says 'heartbreak', it was obvious that she wasnt going to make it

  • @SilverRadiant
    @SilverRadiant3 ай бұрын

    Guiliaa 🥺🥺👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 you gave it your best!! Keep going, don’t give up ❤️

  • @axxenm
    @axxenm3 ай бұрын

    Sad to see, she not been doing her best lifting at competitions however that will make her comeback even more epic

  • @ImzyImz
    @ImzyImz3 ай бұрын

    That is so sad.😢 she is my favourite in her weight class. Come on, giulia, you got this in Thailand. 👏🏿👊🏿

  • @lanleeder717
    @lanleeder7173 ай бұрын

    she's a warrior and she'll be back stronger

  • @books4739

    @books4739

    3 ай бұрын

    with a stronger back hopefully

  • @user-ud6wb5cu1g
    @user-ud6wb5cu1g3 ай бұрын

    Не плачь, девочка... Ты - самая красивая и самая сильная. Победы ещё обязательно будут ❤️❤️❤️😘😘😘

  • @peterironrope
    @peterironrope2 ай бұрын

    I really respect and admire her for trying her hardest and the genuine display of her emotions.

  • @Alex-zz5gp
    @Alex-zz5gp3 ай бұрын

    Giulia no matter what, we know that you can!But always remember that good health is the main priority. ♥♥♥

  • @Cussmem07

    @Cussmem07

    3 ай бұрын

    No athlete is in good health. They have to keep pushing the human boundries otherwise they can not become World Class.

  • @NUFCtillidie9
    @NUFCtillidie93 ай бұрын

    In my humble opinion, I think she should have bumped DOWN to 79 for her first, as that would have given her the confidence needed by winning the silver (we all knew she didnt have a shot at gold) and then she would have been able to try 83-86 and figure out the C&J after. Me and my wife came to that session just to watch her and felt her pain😢 hope she bounces back soon

  • @bensacc

    @bensacc

    3 ай бұрын

    reducing the weight is not an option

  • @Jamie0175

    @Jamie0175

    3 ай бұрын

    True. Openers were always supposed to be the best you could get under any circumstances, so you at least get on the board and prevent this. I think the coaches made poor choices.

  • @NUFCtillidie9

    @NUFCtillidie9

    3 ай бұрын

    @@bensacc its allowed if the current weight has not been attempted by anyone, as well as the new, lower weight. The same happened with Hampton Morris on his last c&j attempt. The attempt before her was 77 I think. Those were the right conditions to bump down

  • @potatoman3972

    @potatoman3972

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Jamie0175this has always been italy tactics. go heavy just below ur max and if u hit it try for max. if fail u still got tries for high.

  • @burundi90

    @burundi90

    3 ай бұрын

    His goal was not a medal, but to climb the Olympic rankings. going down in weight made no sense..

  • @LiftedJourneys
    @LiftedJourneys3 ай бұрын

    oh man, this is indeed heartbreaking. But I'm sure there will be better days coming!

  • @realistadelnuevoextremo

    @realistadelnuevoextremo

    3 ай бұрын

    why is it heartbreaking??

  • @mypfpiswhatourphonesees4294
    @mypfpiswhatourphonesees42943 ай бұрын

    that was sad, you can always come back stronger giulia keep your heads up.

  • @Blacklion19
    @Blacklion192 ай бұрын

    I'm proud of her! Keep it up❤❤❤

  • @mfeist365
    @mfeist3653 ай бұрын

    Someone give her a hug and encouragement to come back stronger.

  • @Ouga_Official
    @Ouga_Official3 ай бұрын

    This is so sad to watch, hopefully she comes back from this. Mental toughness

  • @DamienDrake2389
    @DamienDrake23892 ай бұрын

    That was an incredible slow mo of the first lift

  • @FalleNDragonn
    @FalleNDragonn3 ай бұрын

    Lost the chance, won our hearts. Cmon u can still do it!

  • @SportsFan918
    @SportsFan9183 ай бұрын

    You can do this Giulia !!! Wishing you the very best ❤😁👍🏻🎉. From a big Fan

  • @oscr_zen
    @oscr_zen3 ай бұрын

    slow mo operator in the studio understood the assignment

  • @iamhimman

    @iamhimman

    3 ай бұрын

    touch grass

  • @RaconteurFox

    @RaconteurFox

    3 ай бұрын

    lmao

  • @theworldlywarrior

    @theworldlywarrior

    5 күн бұрын

    ​@@iamhimmandont be a pu55y

  • @adrianamarcos9250
    @adrianamarcos92503 ай бұрын

    Te amamos reina ❤

  • @mikrojinn
    @mikrojinn3 ай бұрын

    C'MON GIULIA !!! Good luck in Thailand !!!

  • @TheBobwinner
    @TheBobwinner3 ай бұрын

    camera man did a good job at 01:00

  • @Eddyval-oq2vt

    @Eddyval-oq2vt

    2 ай бұрын

    He sure did

  • @Chance-ry1hq
    @Chance-ry1hq2 ай бұрын

    This video will make her even more popular.

  • @angelica2269
    @angelica22692 ай бұрын

    i always see her on ig lifting everything with ease, maybe she gets hit by too much pressure during competitions

  • @64wy4x8s
    @64wy4x8s3 ай бұрын

    Anyone know what the olympic qualification requirements were like for 2008, 2012, 2016, etc? It seems like only for 2021 Tokyo and 2024 Paris the qualification requirements are weird.

  • @madworld109

    @madworld109

    3 ай бұрын

    Because the number of athletes for Tokyo was reduced and even further reduced more for Paris

  • @bebos1262

    @bebos1262

    2 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@madworld109Any reason why?

  • @sheehantastic
    @sheehantastic3 ай бұрын

    You tried so hard, and did so well. I'm so proud of you. I love watching Imperio and Cambei. I almost feel like I'm watching my own kids when they step up to the bar.

  • @sensam6155

    @sensam6155

    3 ай бұрын

    but in the end, it did't even matter!

  • @djo-dji6018

    @djo-dji6018

    3 ай бұрын

    You are proud of her? Are you a relative or close friend?

  • @sheehantastic

    @sheehantastic

    3 ай бұрын

    @@djo-dji6018 You aren't able to feel pride and happiness in the efforts and accomplishments of others unless they're related to you?

  • @tougeattack123

    @tougeattack123

    Ай бұрын

    @@sheehantastic yes

  • @domenicorondinelli7834
    @domenicorondinelli78343 ай бұрын

    Sei un'atleta straordinaria. Non mollare mai ❤

  • @EduUy2024
    @EduUy20243 ай бұрын

    Solo el que lo vive sabe lo que se sente 😢

  • @marcomilani8371
    @marcomilani83713 ай бұрын

    When you're going to upload the whole competition 49kg women? I can't wait for it!

  • @peeniz

    @peeniz

    3 ай бұрын

    3 months

  • @marcomilani8371

    @marcomilani8371

    3 ай бұрын

    @@peeniz:(

  • @johndoherty-hh2ck
    @johndoherty-hh2ck3 ай бұрын

    If she and her coaches can live with bombing at Europeans because her emphasis is 100% on qualifying for Paris that’s their business. Early in the quad before he had qualified Massida missed opening snatch went up 3 kg missed again went up 2 kg and succeeded. Not every athlete or coach can operate so precariously but that’s for them to decide.

  • @ugcxt
    @ugcxt3 ай бұрын

    If she had participated in the clean and jerk, she would have gotten a silver medal easily. The silver medalist in her weight class lifted 96 ish. Giulia can easily clean & jerk over 100kg.

  • @willyojeda6396
    @willyojeda63963 ай бұрын

    Can someone explain to me the qualifing rules? Why did she started as high as that? What is that about the top 10? Thanks!

  • @blackcatalogue
    @blackcatalogue3 ай бұрын

    I'm sure she'll make comeback in Thailand. She's obviously strong enough. But I can't help but think all the recent online interest in the Italian team has led to a lack of focus.

  • @thechosenone93

    @thechosenone93

    3 ай бұрын

    You’re somewhat right but Lu Xiaojun grew in popularity near the 2012 Olympics and is still popular but he was still focused on his craft which was proved when he won in Tokyo(even with his recent popping) I think it’s a weak excuse about her or the Italians not having focus when Pizzolato and Massida are still performing well(Nasar is too strong for Antonino but Nino is still a threat and Massida is performing very very well although he’s not winning excessively)

  • @scottshannon6084

    @scottshannon6084

    3 ай бұрын

    She can make a comeback if she takes more steroids!!

  • @somebody-by9ge

    @somebody-by9ge

    3 ай бұрын

    ​I don't think he's putting it out there as an excuse. More of a criticism.

  • @iverson721
    @iverson7213 ай бұрын

    Where are the games broadcasted

  • @joebot9309
    @joebot93093 ай бұрын

    Just having a bad day. She will come back mentally stronger

  • @SRHisntSilent
    @SRHisntSilent2 ай бұрын

    My heart hurts for her

  • @chamchamz98
    @chamchamz983 ай бұрын

    So heartbreaking to see. Shen has to come back

  • @barryckemp907
    @barryckemp9073 ай бұрын

    Imperio go girl. She has guts and metal but needs her A game to be In contention. Fingers & toes crossed.

  • @mrlee9213
    @mrlee92133 ай бұрын

    I’m going to see her in Thailand and she’s going to win 🇮🇳

  • @purplepowersnatcher
    @purplepowersnatcher3 ай бұрын

    Oh man...😭 She'll come back strong in Thailand! 😎

  • @Linoonillino
    @Linoonillino3 ай бұрын

    Sei una forza della natura, non abbatterti sei una campionessa sempre e comunque

  • @TopBinFootballCardz
    @TopBinFootballCardz3 ай бұрын

    I wonder what her power snatch is. So much speed in the pull. Very impressive!

  • @giovanni4151
    @giovanni41512 ай бұрын

    She's gorgeous

  • @youssefsabry678
    @youssefsabry6783 ай бұрын

    That slowmo at 0:59 was necessary

  • @privateassman8839

    @privateassman8839

    3 ай бұрын

    I know right? Wtf was that videography for.

  • @youssefsabry678

    @youssefsabry678

    3 ай бұрын

    @@privateassman8839for us of course

  • @rickmaldoo4205
    @rickmaldoo42053 ай бұрын

    💔she will do great

  • @miferdg4795
    @miferdg47953 ай бұрын

    quanto mi è dispiaciuto.... rimani comuque fortissima giulia. prossima volta ti aspettano 3 medaglie d'oro

  • @simonef4512
    @simonef45122 ай бұрын

    ti vogliamo bene sei forte

  • @danielmnav
    @danielmnav3 ай бұрын

    I hope she sees the comment section, even though she might think she has disappointed a lot of people everyone supports her

  • @BrookMaboyi
    @BrookMaboyi3 ай бұрын

    I kept noticing a slight tilt in her right hip and then subsequently her stance went out of balance all three times, I think she can do the weight but she needs to make a slight adjustment.

  • @edgarbaruchscastellanosrey2691
    @edgarbaruchscastellanosrey26913 ай бұрын

    Ánimo!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤

  • @nomito9030
    @nomito90302 ай бұрын

    Dopo che si cade si piange... Ma è importantissimo rialzarsi subito come ha fatto lei. E penso che diventerà ancora più Forte 💪 Forza Giulia! Non arrenderti mai.

  • @kozmosnotgay
    @kozmosnotgay3 ай бұрын

    She has had some trouble in these big moments. Such a shame, she’s still a beast!

  • @zubbyy
    @zubbyy3 ай бұрын

    Ti vogliamo bene giulia 💖

  • @Milagros0
    @Milagros03 ай бұрын

    Pobrecita mi reina😭

  • @itumelenglefafa7111
    @itumelenglefafa71113 ай бұрын

    Next meet 🤟🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @elcunto7623
    @elcunto76233 ай бұрын

    That is heartbreaking!

  • @mariplays
    @mariplays3 ай бұрын

    I wonder if she’s training through an injury here. I’ve never seen her snatch pull so lopsided before. I’m rooting for her in Thailand!!!

  • @dogacsozbir8489
    @dogacsozbir84892 ай бұрын

    Man, imperio is such a badass second name

  • @mivanov93
    @mivanov933 ай бұрын

    She will return stronger. Everyone loves her.

  • @roncaruso931

    @roncaruso931

    3 ай бұрын

    Why at about 1 minute into the video the camera was focused on her ass? I guess she didnt take enough drugs. Thats why she failed. Shes a loser.

  • @scottshannon6084

    @scottshannon6084

    3 ай бұрын

    BS> She needed more steroids!!

  • @alessandroserrecchia2380
    @alessandroserrecchia23802 ай бұрын

    Daje Giulia nn arrenderti sei fortissima

  • @magaseriano1
    @magaseriano13 ай бұрын

    Che bell atleta... grande

  • @casted8034
    @casted80343 ай бұрын

    If my arms go in a backwards direction I would never be able to lift them again. Her flexibility and strength are amazing. Good luck to her in the future.

  • @ElNietoPR
    @ElNietoPR2 ай бұрын

    She'll come back

  • @De-bi6zu
    @De-bi6zu2 ай бұрын

    I love bowling, such a lovely sport

  • @nickolasridge8235
    @nickolasridge82353 ай бұрын

    0:31 YOU JINXED HER!!!!!!

  • @someasiankid6323
    @someasiankid63233 ай бұрын

    damn that broke my heart

  • @NESSUNOroadto205kgmarcoptsquat
    @NESSUNOroadto205kgmarcoptsquat3 ай бұрын

    Giulia ti vogliamo tutti bene Coraggio che la prossima volta sarai una bomba. Sono sicuro che porterai la bandiera italiana alle Olimpiadi

  • @damitzdesign
    @damitzdesign3 ай бұрын

    She’s my favorite, and I just started watching weightlifting 😔 Does this mean she won’t participate in the Paris 2024 Olympics?

  • @yvanthepcgamer7993

    @yvanthepcgamer7993

    3 ай бұрын

    Depends on if she still qualifies.

  • @alejandrinahs

    @alejandrinahs

    3 ай бұрын

    Commenters said she has two months to try.

  • @liviomelani4695
    @liviomelani46952 ай бұрын

    Forza Giulia non mollare! 💕💕💕💕💕💕

  • @user-uk9er5vw4c
    @user-uk9er5vw4c3 ай бұрын

    Non mollare Giulia!

  • @LaPtaVerdad
    @LaPtaVerdad3 ай бұрын

    Igual la amo :'c

  • @dadbad67
    @dadbad673 ай бұрын

    Lei li alzava tranquillamente, a volte troppa tensione accumulata causa brutti scherzi, l'importante che non si sia fatta male. Alla prossima, vedrai che farai tesoro di questi errori e migliorerai sempre di più!

  • @remi000simon
    @remi000simon3 ай бұрын

    She gave it. Her all. Bet she. Felt bad for this day. She will come back. And. Be on top 😊

  • @wesyale2887
    @wesyale28873 ай бұрын

    Is she injured??? I'm so sorry for her.

  • @fakechinese815
    @fakechinese8153 ай бұрын

    I think these are the times where you can prove how good of a weightlifter you are, or any other sports really. You keep crying over it or you overcome it and smash the next time you step on stage

  • @alessandroquattrini4319
    @alessandroquattrini43193 ай бұрын

    Can someone explain why she opened with such an high weight ?

  • @jeffk4710

    @jeffk4710

    3 ай бұрын

    coach

  • @purplepowersnatcher

    @purplepowersnatcher

    2 ай бұрын

    To get her into top 10 for the Olympic qualifier. Any less would make no sense.

  • @alessandroquattrini4319

    @alessandroquattrini4319

    2 ай бұрын

    @@purplepowersnatcher she had to do it in the fisrt attempt ? couldn't she start at a lower weight ?

  • @purplepowersnatcher

    @purplepowersnatcher

    2 ай бұрын

    @@alessandroquattrini4319 She has to improve her total to qualify. She's hit 85 in competition before, but that still didn't get her into the top 10, so that means she needs 85+ to even have a shot. They could have started lower but if 83 ain't there that day, 85+ ain't there either.

  • @sebilsever8961

    @sebilsever8961

    2 ай бұрын

    @@purplepowersnatcher she was 71kg in 2023 and now 49kg? What happened her? She lost her %30 of body in a year?

  • @skullmexa9651
    @skullmexa96513 ай бұрын

    Aún es muy joven para ranquear en los 10 mejores, con unos 3 años más lo podrá conseguir indiscutiblemente

  • @RobertRedway
    @RobertRedway2 ай бұрын

    Cambei is leagues ahead of the rest

  • @zxcbfadbnatrn
    @zxcbfadbnatrn2 ай бұрын

    Ha sentito troppa pressione e aspettative su di lei probabilmente. Farà meglio in futuro

  • @andreadeluca7822
    @andreadeluca78222 ай бұрын

    forza giulia

  • @blaster5800
    @blaster580013 күн бұрын

    I am a man. She is literally half my weight, and she can almost lift my weight. Impressive girl.

  • @sonnyb7612
    @sonnyb76122 ай бұрын

    Don't know if I want to watch my weightlifting crush have a bad day. But I guess I will.

  • @Chibanah
    @Chibanah2 ай бұрын

    Was the main problem her wrist? It seems she had to give up because of her wrist could not hold it properly.

  • @AnTo-ym6di
    @AnTo-ym6di3 ай бұрын

    😭😭😭😭😭 forza giulietta!!!

  • @pablorages
    @pablorages2 ай бұрын

    Gorgeous !

  • @alexlewis7998
    @alexlewis79983 ай бұрын

    Seems odd to not have rules similar to swimming for getting into Olympics. 2 lifters from each country for each weight class should be the standard.

  • @davidkarvay6444
    @davidkarvay64443 ай бұрын

    Super!!!😊

  • @davidkarvay6444

    @davidkarvay6444

    3 ай бұрын

    Prepáčte nevidel som to celé!

  • @antoniomartinezpena798
    @antoniomartinezpena7983 ай бұрын

    What is her pr ??

  • @Luxonism
    @Luxonism3 ай бұрын

    she will come back

  • @hugoooobr
    @hugoooobr3 ай бұрын

    Not gonna lie, I ALMOST cried

  • @MartintxoEH
    @MartintxoEH2 ай бұрын

    Forza Giulia, ce la farai in Thailandia!!! Saluti dai Paesi Baschi

  • @Mmmmchocolate
    @Mmmmchocolate3 ай бұрын

    I know heart break in competition. It’s absolutely brutal. Destroys you.

  • @Whitehawkvisionfilms
    @Whitehawkvisionfilms3 ай бұрын

    Great effort! Lots of heart! I just couldn't help thinking if she had tied the velcro straps on her shoes that maybe she would have had a more stable base to lift from.... hmmm

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