As a New Adventures fan, I am disappointed we didn't get more of their line up as well, but I get the reasoning why. At the same time, despite the mistakes over the years, Classics is still arguably one of the best toy lines to have been produced. If Songster had somehow made it to production, then it would have been perfect, but it is still close.

@joemartin5669

2 ай бұрын

Problem was the guy who played songster wanted more money.

Cool video. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

The one thing that really bothered me with MOTUC was distribution. I'm Italian and, generally speaking, in Europe there is a huge MOTU fanbase: import taxes and duties were killing us all the time! There are plenty Mattel subsidiaries in Europe, I wish one of them was used to distribute MOTUC without letting fans pay 100% of the import taxes and duties on each item.

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and that is a bit more of a Euro thing with distribution va being on the manufacture

@kontroller1

Жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 doesn't the brand manager have a say on distribution as well?

@DanyTV79

Жыл бұрын

The same in South America. 🤷

@caesarjergens

Жыл бұрын

I `m not a collector but I would have bought one or two of my old favorites. It sort of bothers me even more when it comes to the convention toys that would cost an arm and a leg to get a hold of.

@jimver2145

Жыл бұрын

And canada. Someone at Mattel really crapped the bed on this line. Such a missed opportunity.

Blade is one of my top 3 figures in the whole line, maybe even #1. Im so glad he ended up the way he did, I dont care if the weapons arent painted, the figure looks AMAZING, exactly like the movie, the figure i always wanted.

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

Well so glad!

@WhateverHappenedToFun

Жыл бұрын

The real problem with Blade is that his movie sword was painted red. It was a mistake since in the movie isn't painted red but it was painted red when it was reused in another movie. I and few fans pointed out this mistake but nobody answered back because it was too late!

@FNHot

Жыл бұрын

@@WhateverHappenedToFun ya a lot of the problems with MOTUC were because they'd show us the toy when it was too late. Like i understand it takes a year or more to get the toy made, but, once you have a sculpt and paint apps you're okay with, THEN show the fans. The way it was done, they would surprise us with a toy we had already bought with our sub, and that feels like a kick in the teeth.

I do wish we could have gotten a second Catra figure. She is my favorite villain

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

Oh me too

Excellent video as always Scott. My biggest regret is that I got into the Classics line way too late, around 2016. By that time the Mattel part of the line was finishing up and Super7 took over. Was into Transformers then. Thankfully I have most of what I wanted by the secondary market but still a ways to go yet. You guys did an absolutely amazing job on the Classics line and so happy Mattel is bringing MOTU back.

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

And hopefully they can keep it going into 2023

My initial regret was not having the ability to financially get into Classics when it started in 2008. But I guess it all worked ou. Even though I'm in a better place now financially, I wouldn't have the space for all of them. Even now with origins and Masterverse- it's cotto see them at the store, but there's no wTid have room to purchase them al.

Completely with you on Leech. One of my biggest disappointments in the line. Leech was my favourite as a kid because he was so big and bulky, and the Classics figure just didn’t capture that. I didn’t care about reversed shoulders or small missing paint decos or things that could be fixed with a little customising, but Leech should have been a fully new tool. Even if he had to be sold as a deluxe figure.

I regret that Rio Blast couldn't get the Buzzsaw Hordak torso. Classic Rio was one of my favorites, I've probably flipped his guns out hundreds of times. Weren't they on each other's cardbacks?

Cool video! Thank you! Really, the only two big annoyances I had with MOTU Classics were: 1) it didn't last another 10 years, so we could get characters like Dragoon, Melaktha, Kothos, Tuvar, Baddhra, etc, get some more vehicles, and round out the playsets; and 2) that the last few items were extremely limited stinking convention exclusives and their asking price is now more than their weight in freakin' opals. One of the things I LOVED about MOTU Classics was how accessible it was. It's so incredibly rare that a line offers ALL its products to anyone outside the USA and Canada. I was able to sit at home, in England, and have all these great MOTU Classics things arrive right on my doorstep. Magnificent! Furthermore, except where Power-Con was involved, MOTU Classics had the easiest-to-get exclusives of any line I ever collected. Couldn't make it to a convention? No biggie -- just wait a week or two, and you'd be able to get those figures off MattyCollector (provided Digital River had the site functioning on the two days a month it actually needed to be). Finally: just realised at the 5:24 mark that the He-Man in that box art looks uncannily like Marc Singer. "Beast Master" figures, anyone . . . ?

@toyboy887

Жыл бұрын

Yes, looks like Marc. Same as the hairstyle Power Tour He-Man had .. not one of the best 80s haircuts for sure ( some hairdresser cut one into me I remember and I was less than happy)

My biggest regret was not being able to get Snake Mountain. I had it on pre-order, then Covid happened and my job went away. I couldn't justify spending that much on something I didn't "need". (I joked that if Snake Mountain showed up on our doorstep, my wife would make me live in it!) To this day, it's my "one that got away"... As for MOTUC, the one thing I will hold against you, Mr. Brand Manager, was not finishing NA. I understand they weren't a priority, and I understand they weren't well-liked, and I know they didn't sell well. But I found a new appreciation for NA through Classics and I wish we could have finished that line. Oh well.

My first exposure to modern He-Man figures were the MOTU & DC Toys r'us two-packs. Of course, I didn't get back into collecting till 2012. By then, I had missed most of the Classics collection.

I'm so Thankful, MOTUC happened, they were just so beautifully made and still incredibly popular amongst toy collectors, the 4H went all out, in fact everyone who worked on the line went all out. If ever, they get reissued [me fantasising] with more "modern articulation" they'd fly off the shelves, I'd get a dozen He-Man's or She-Ra's for myself. Thank you for sharing all these insider nuggets and your passion for Toy's, Scott. Goodnight and have a fantastic day ☕

I think Classics should have done more of the characters from the movie... I know most of what you guys did was redo old figures but, it would have been cool to have a movie version of Beastman, the Sorceress or Man-at-Arms... or the cop.

@jamisonfrey3452

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I know I might be in the minority, but I love the movie and the movie figures we got in the line. I literally thank God we got movie versions of He-Man and two movie versions of Skeletor. I've wanted figures of them ever since I first saw the movie as a kid in the 80s. Never thought I'd see the day. Of course I was happy to get Gwildor, Karg, Blade and Saurod as well, but with the exception of Karg, we have seen figures of the others in the original line so they were kinda expected. I would have loved to have gotten movie versions of Man-At-Arms Teela, Evil-Lyn, Beastman, The Sorceress and even Skeletor's storm troopers, but I'm happy with what we did get. The Masterverse line is releasing a movie He-Man and Skeletor, but I don't think they look as good as the ones mentioned above.

I always wounderd what you and the team missed about The Motu classics brand not being around anymore and what other figures or Veichles you really wanted to get too. I so wish Mattel would open the doors again to that Classics line while Also Making the Masterverse and Origins line!

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

Oh me too

I bought myself Classics Snake Mountain for my 40th birthday. I have yet to purchase Castle Grayskull (I will someday) ... but I'm gutted there is no MOTU Classics Fright Zone! I loved the original 80s Fright Zone (I have two, one stays in storage and the other my kids play with). A Classics Fright Zone would have been incredible

I love this line. Sub'd and collected them back in the day. Only gripe was with the female crotch pieces--the skirt versus leotard of the first few years. If I remember correctly, it changed w/ Angella and looked for like the cartoon counterparts.

My regrets are more financial based haha. I regret not spending 15 dollars on Scareglow then having to pay almost 50 dollars for example. But I did recently pick up New Eternia Beastman new boxed for 15 dollars so swings and roundabouts I suppose.

It’s interesting that you mention the arms on leach , It bugged me so much that I actually sold the figure lol 😂 … But I keep my vintage one with pride

My only regret was getting screwed out of most of my PoP classics sub line by digital river. I never had any of the issues with them anyone else was having until that year when I had lost my job and had to move to a new city. Oh, and castle greyskulls floors warping. That gets me.

With Stratos it wasn't so much that the wings were glued in place, it's that they were glued in the wrong place, so the wings didn't sit right. I spent like an hour messing with those to break the glue and move them into proper position. I wouldn't mind naked stratos in Origins if they'd matched the comic better with the "necklace/scarf". I like that, i'm assuming, fan made head on leech that looked more leech like, then the ones with the ridiculously large teeth that look for like an alligator.

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

What was the right place out of curiosity?

@knightwolfpro4494

Жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 Position might have been a better word to use. But basically on mine, if you stood Stratos straight, one wing was glued to be in front instead of the side the other was glued to be in back of the arm instead of the side. it was really awful.

I think the QC issue(s) is probably what upset most fans, because no1 wants to pay & get a "defective" item. I guess I'm lucky I got into the line much later, so that didn't effect me, much. Other than that, the line up of released characters was pretty good, especially the POP. Most of us MOTU fans didn't really like the 'New Adv' show, so it's obvious why that line didn't sell too well (at least we got Mara & Crita figs). I'm just glad I could collect improved versions of toys from my childhood (most of which I never got growing up, because of finances and/or my parents not wanting their sons to play w/ female figures, because they said they were "girls toys", although they were in a boys' toyline).

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

And believe me we did all that was possible

The best line of action figures ever. Thank you for bring these into the world, sir

I agree about leech.but I understand about tooling for him would've been problematic.I think if made as he was intended he'd be as big as Ram man or Tuskador with the 200x version of the head added because I like that sculpt of his head.I agree on getting she ra out earlier but glad we got them.i do think something got lost in translation on Frosta as I think her hair was to be light blue and her cape was to be clear blue plastic but it was the opposite on that figure.my only real disappointments with the line over all were as I said earlier how the unnamed one turned out,I wanted Angella to look more like her toy because I liked her with that long strawberry blonde hair , and that the create a character contest should've had a best male and best female category(but that one is just for personal reasons :))

I agree with you about Leech. In Classics and Origins his limbs look too thin and it throws the figure off. The Rock people all disappointed me. With the rock armor on it's far too big and makes them immovable yet still doesn't give them the ability to turn into rocks without another massive bit of plastic kibble anyway so all seems pointless. They'd have been better with smaller rock parts to attack to their arms and legs which look good and make them still posable.

If I could have a few more MOTU Classics figures, my top pics: - Hans Hammer Holder - Lady Slither - Clawdeen - Evil Robot - Sagitar

hello there. I agree with you, sir, about the green dude with the "sucker" hands. His legs were too thin and manly whereas they should have been bulkier and monstery (like the art) Regrets are just part of the game...right? When I get caught up in that "trap", I counter with all the things I know I did right. Like I know you were pretty damn passionate about your MOTU and sometimes I can almost see you "glowing" with pride in the details and other stuff you hadda "rip & destroy" to get made to your satisfaction. My point is the applause you get would certainly drown out the sound of regret....? (I guess the sound of regret could be moaning or groaning perhaps?) Great show! \m/

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for such kind words!

@evilchaosboy

Жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 Well deserved,sir! :)

I don't know if you'll ever see this Scott and that's fine but I have to tell you that no matter what, no matter the negativity from the toxic fans, the bitching and tantrums, overall, NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE can ever say you didn't do an excellent job on the line. Yes, it wasn't you alone, but you were one of the main ones. You gave fans a line that an entire department had given back in the eighties, with a cartoon and comics to support it. You gave us an online only toy line at a very good price (were people complaining about a $20 figure), shipped quite cheaply, at least at the start, and gave us the widest array of figures ever, surpassing the original line. You should be very proud. I'm collectively sorry (although I wasn't really part of it) about the bitching and tantrums that came your way, and I'm sorry it ended before it needed to. I'm not sure anyone realises just how amazing the entire line (quality and all) was, especially given what we're getting now - such a hodge podge of styles.

Classics was amazing at setting standards. I hope Origins is still able to minimally replicate some of it. Different purposes but still there were some enhancements made to last, like accessories or different sculpts. Leech actually was a very nice improve in Classics and kept nicely by Origins, and the legs really don't bother me.

That's always bugged me about Two Bad, his shield has no paint on it. And Leech, man. He's the one figure I'm looking for a deluxe version to come out in Masterverse. He should be massive. Still, Classics was a definitive line, all other line pale in comparison. Stellar work!

8:52 Featured!! Toy Guru used my 3d designed staffs for Stratos pics for his video! I'm so happy! They're available for classics and vintage/origins scales, pm me if you're interested.

I wanted classic to look exactly like vintage. When they didn't I wasn't angry or agitated just bummed.

Ya have noticed a huge difference with Star Wars vintage collection line has the figure becoming awesome! And getting better. But the weapons are getting smaller and flimsy! The sabers are about half the thickness on the hilts, and the guns are so small and lose able! It’s really noticeable on the mandalorian death watch and the commandos have tiny little pistols that are to small to hold! Thank god they sit in the holster nice and tight so I won’t loose them and just use the bigger blaster they come with

Two things that always bothered me in ANY He-Man line of recent vintage... lack of ability to pose He-Man in either holding sword aloft pose or holding sword out front for I HAVE THE POWER. Also, either Classics or Origins Grayskull should have had lights and sounds! Play the theme when you put Adam or He-Man on the jawbridge!

I regret we never got all the NA cast of Mutants and Galactic Guardians. I'd have loved a three pack of Horde Invaders too after being stuck with a load of three packs in the subscription I didn't want. General Tataran too.

Meh... I was pretty much okay with all the stuff that came out. The only things I had issues with were the ones that would cause damage to the figure over time like Roboto's shoulders and the paint rub on the black plastic. Other than that I was pretty cool with everything. I do remember being really mad about something at one point near the end of the line, but I honestly don't remember what it was... I did think that two of the figures out of the WHOLE line sucked big time (Sir Laser Lot & the Unnamed One) but like I said... It wasn't that big of a deal for me. Anyway, thanks for the video and all your heard work over the 10 years 😁

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

It was a lot of omlette and egg breaking

@greatgibby

Жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 I bet! Too many people were too quick to assume what the job was. It was pretty much a first for everyone and couldn't have been easy. Digital River probably didn't help either lol.

My personal favorite was the 2002 series which was sort of like the originals but with much better details and also with more aesthetically-pleasing proportions beyond arms that are as long as the legs (making the originals and later versions all look like gorilla proportions). There was no need to over-articulate to where figures look too broken-up since it was aimed at kids OK with it aswell as adult collectors who kept it packaged or loose displaying on a shelf.

@knuthamsun6106

Жыл бұрын

I have to admit that while what I most wanted was the original vintage line to be back on the shelves, I did get quite a kick out of the 200X sculpts. and the customs by that Jay-Sun guy were like 🤯😵

@knuthamsun6106

Жыл бұрын

yeah the arms were too long

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

That was a fantastic line that ended too soon

Are you saying paint apps like 'ops'? Or is ops another thing?

I haven't watched any of your videos in a while. It seems like Mattel is ramping up more MOTU. Seems like they're retaining the license? What's the current status of that whole Universal/Mattel thing you talked about in so many videos?

Rockon was one of my first motu figures. I felt totally disappointed after seeing is transformation.

I have a question. I never understod Clawful character. He have that red face, those red claws, but then he have a regular body and an armor that looks like the body must do it. So... it was more expensive (vintage time) the tooling for a new body that the tooling for the armor?

@Beedo_Sookcool

Жыл бұрын

If it helps, crabs are all kinds of colours. If you look at fiddler crabs or Sally Lightfoot crabs, they've got multiple colours all over their bodies. There's even a species of fiddler crab with a blue body, red legs, and one giant yellow signalling claw. So having a crab-based character with red, tan, and brown patches on his body isn't anywhere near as wild and weird as REAL crabs can get.

@kimo_

Жыл бұрын

@@Beedo_Sookcool It is not for the color but the shape. I think the armor shape would be the real body shape. So... why ihe have a human torso and his armor looks like crab shell if he is not dressing a suit: the claws are his hands and the head looks his real head.

@Beedo_Sookcool

Жыл бұрын

@@kimo_ Oh, I get you. Yeah, you were right -- it was down to budget and expense. Cheaper to make an armour overlay than sculpt a whole new body that might not get used again.

I hadn’t noticed the leech thing. seems they could’ve maybe at least used the André the giant legs in origins

While you dropped the ball on some things Shadow Weaver looks great. For me not having the battle armor roll would irk me most. I don't think I even noticed the shoulders hehe. I found an obscure figure mixed in with my Star Wars I've been trying to ID for over 4 Decades. Its from 1975 I think by Toyland with some Easter Bunny on the Rear it seems maybe even with an egg? Made in Hong Kong. Its about same size or taller than Star Wars. Has Glow in Dark Belt along with soft white head that can squeeze with like monster face or Devil Alien with horns. Its in a brown outfit with limited articulation where arms go up down and legs. I know I melted Green or Blue one if not both trying to charge them near a lamp. I'm sure of the first 3 digits 197. Some odd sticker is on the chest that almost looks like Orka or some red thing from whats left. Nobody seems to have any idea I've even called a Toy museum.

@knuthamsun6106

Жыл бұрын

there’s a toy Identification reddit group

@Daoloth

Жыл бұрын

@@knuthamsun6106 I don't use reddit maybe could ask for me? I think the company is Toyland? That possible any site dedicated to that?

@knuthamsun6106

Жыл бұрын

good on you for not using reddit that place is ridiculous

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

Well like I say I can’t take all the credit, likewise I think I can’t take all the blame

@Daoloth

Жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 That is one way to look at it hehe. I liked Blade way ended up though agree items withotu deco seem cheap. He was in The Sword And The Sorcerer too that actor etc.

I agree Leech was a thicc dude. I liked the minicomics rivalry between him and Grizzlor. How come no one makes Slime Pit Beastman from the vintage box art? I guess he'd just have gloop molded on him or removable molded gloop, but...

I was bothered by a lot of the same things you mentioned. Leech was pretty underwhelming, and my net ripped taking it out of the package. The comet warriors were some of MY favorite vintage toys as well, and I was just underwhelmed by how they turned out. I really wanted more new adventures, though. I was annoyed that you skipped new adventures figures, but put out stuff like the fighting foe men pack. BTW, if you buy a silver paint pen, it's really easy to give blade all the extra paint he deserves. And it makes the figure look awesome!

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

Yeah leech still bugs me

@knuthamsun6106

Жыл бұрын

don’t diss FFM 😒

@AJDPharmD

Жыл бұрын

@@knuthamsun6106 I'm not trying to. But I DO think that the NA characters should have been a priority over figures that never existed in the vintage line. The FFM have been an interesting story, and I like that they exist. It's just personal preference.

@orion7873

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I notice almost everyone selling their Leech on ebay has a ripped net.

Do you think the Netflix kid's show will get Origins figures. They are getting Masterverse figures. Do you think the non-Filmation non-sequel will get Origins style figures?? Thanks.

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I think this current line is winding down based on the 1/2 foot at retail now

@bobastu

Жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 we've never had more than He-Man or Skeletor, for the Origins single figure packs, on the pegs, at any of the 10-20 Targets and Walmarts in a 30 mile radius. The same way we only have Lando peg warming at those same stores. I've seen more at comic shops for $10+ over retail. I'm personally more excited about Mega Construx Snake Mountain.

I don't have any MotU Classics figures, I'm sorry to say, but I look at photos online. From what I've read, there are two versions of Sorceress: Mattel's and Super7's, and frankly, it doesn't look like either version does her justice. The S7 has a better facial sculpt, but is shorter than Mattel's. Then there's the wing situation. Sorceress did not have wings, she had a cloak that looked like wings, and yet neither company thought to give her one. Sheesh.

@knuthamsun6106

Жыл бұрын

wow good point re: cloak

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

Well the super 7 version is the animated look, the Mattel the toy look

@Beedo_Sookcool

Жыл бұрын

It's not like they didn't think to give her a cape; it was down to the fact they couldn't pull it off for budgetary reasons.

Too bad the kickstarter approach wasnt back then because adding tiers where the base was simple version, hit a tier and get more accessories ... hit another and get the best paint apps etc.

Yes, 'em Leech thighs! And non-working suction cups :[ to be fair, the weight of the Classics figure would not have made working suction cups really possible. Almost wanted to pull the trigger on the Origins version for getting the suction feature in, but just couldn't get past the thigh aesthetic which is even worse than the Classics silhouette, and it's such a pity since the hollow nature of the design meant that it could accommodate the physics of gravity. I'd like to think that it's just the skinny pre-energy-draining version of Leech, but ugh, form vs function vs finance, always such a tricky balance.

My regret is that there are figures I do not have.

I do think if there had been a "slim buck", it would have prompted you all to dive a bit deeper into NA to justify tooling costs, and it would have been beneficial to so many figures with the decreased mass. There is so much cool armor and weapons on Hydron and Flipshot that end up looking just insanely bulky in a display that in context they don't fit in with that. But it was 10 years ago now, no going back. I think having POP early on would have been beneficial as well but SO MANY people expressed their desire about needing to complete the vintage figures that it force your all's hands. And that's fine. but SLIM BUCK would have fixed a lot of issues I feel

Not sure if this is worthy of a video but.........At what point did you realize or think that the classic line was going to get past 6 figures? And at that point was you ready to move forward? Did you have to immediately start planning out the year?

I am probably one of the few people that liked pepper 🌶 spray He-Man.

my biggest regret is that I had every single thing that came out, MIP, when the same roommate who made jabs at me for buying toys caused a fire in the basement that ruined all my classics figures up to that point. I still have them all unopened and ironically they would be fine if not for the ventilation holes that allowed smoke in.

The reason the new team did the same thing with leach is cuase they ride your coat tails Scott. I'm just waiting for the new team to bring back classics. It will happen. I wish Mattel had the hasbro joe team working for them. They listen to fans and really try hard.

My greatest regret with MOTU Classics, with all my collecting, is never buying them! No I'm serious, I'm a huge MOTU fan but I live in the UK, I collected the 200X line because they were on sale in stores locally, then the Classics were released and at the time I had no money to spare and by the time I was able to afford collecting again the line had moved so far it was impossible to catch up, also you guys would pay for shipping within the US, I'd need to pay for international shipping on every figure which is crazy, stupid expensive, so Classics never happened for me! To this day I regret how it went down! 😢

@gagaH78226

Жыл бұрын

It's incredibly expensive now, even loose figures, but they really are the definitive versions of the Masters...I'm still in awe every time I Iook at Beastman on my desk at work...it's art in plastic. Have a good day ☕

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

Well there is always the after market

@Beedo_Sookcool

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, timing is everything with toys, these days. Used to be, it wouldn't matter if you missed out on Farmboy Luke Skywalker back in 1978, because he was still being sold all the way up to 1984, albeit on a different card. Nowadays, you miss a narrow window of availability, and that's it. The customs issue was sporadic, though. Sometimes, I'd get a fairly hefty shipment through without any customs charges at all, and sometimes they'd hold a couple of Wepaons Paks hostage until I coughed up the dosh. And don't get me started on how ParcelFarce handled things -- I'll be typing for another two hours. The shipping was also confusing. You used to be able to get a Surface Mail option, which took up to two months to deliver something, but it was dirt cheap. Then, somewhere along the line, all the delivery services seemed to simulatneously cut that option out, so you HAD to pay airmail or express shipping at exorbitant rates. But again, they were sporadic. I ordered a Point Dread & Talon Fighter set from MattyCollector, and for some unknown reason, the express shipping cost half the amount of the standard airmail on that one occasion, and I got the set in five days, with no customs ransom. And it also depended on the carrier. About a decade ago, I ordered a Clone Wars Trade Federation MTT off Toy-Palace, in Germany. Shipping to England via FedEx: €147. Shipping to England via UPS: €87. Shipping to England via DHL: €12.

@HappyBirthdayRoboto

Жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 That's true Scott, however, in the case of Classics specifically, I'd be paying a fortune, even for just a handful of characters. This is why I love Masterverse.

@HappyBirthdayRoboto

Жыл бұрын

@@gagaH78226 Yeah I agree, figures are an artform, just like sculpture, unfortunately just like comics they don't get much respect from the mainstream.

Specter Creative Binge Day 10, episode 1, overall 72

Trapjaws eyes not being painted straight pissed me off also stinkors forearm’s bringing swapped always pissed me off stinkor being my favorite motu character

@spectorcreative1872

Жыл бұрын

I never saw Trap Jaws eyes as off center. I’ll need to check my samples

@actionfigurdude

Жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 pixel dans was and mine and everyone I’ve ever saw was pretty off center I don’t know if that was on purpose but regardless I never cared for the look of it

@Beedo_Sookcool

Жыл бұрын

@@spectorcreative1872 The eyes being wonky was one of those weird random things that happened with no rhyme or reason. Sometimes, the eyes would look great, other times, you'd get Queen Angella or Vultak doing a decent impression of Marty Feldman.

I wanted a fully tooled Leech. Leech is my favorite fictional character of all time along with Skeketor. He's Top 5 in my favorite toys of all time. MOTUC Leech could be my favorite action figure I own. I have 7 of him - 6 loose and 1 still MIB. The arms and legs never bothered me. Leech has He-Man' s arms. Are you saying He-Man had small arms? Same for the legs. Problem is his torso is too small. It's not wide enough and it has no girth. It's flat like a pancake. On the other hand the arms and legs do mostly match in size. Yes, Leech should have been that year's delux figure like Ram Man or Modulok or Multi-Bot. What are you going to do? MOTUC's #1 Motto was Cut Corners and Cheap = Vintage. All things considered Leech was a miracle. He made out far better than Evil who received no new tooling was was just a repainted figure twice in the line. ------- Biggest regret with the line was you screwed us out of a proper 200x Evil Lyn even though the 4H admitted to having the budget for her dress. Here we are 10 years later no new 200x figures...no 200x Evil Lyn even though you promised in multiple threads she would not be a repaint.

it’s not mini-comics Stratos’ fault that they massively overshipped wave 7. jitsu & buzz off peg-warm everywhere right next to him. i love mini-comic repaints. the mini-comics are the true ‘origins’ to me, as I started collecting well before the cheesy cartoon came out

@spectorcreative1872

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Yeah but prob better to not have made him

@knuthamsun6106

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I ordered a Classics mini comic Stratos from Hong Kong on eBay but it never arrived. basically the only time I’ve been scammed on eBay in 25 years of buying stuff

Scott, one major thing confuses me: You say action figures take two years in development, and you were only planning on doing six tribute figures...so how were you guys able to roll out more with ease, like everything *had* been planned out??

the problem came with super 7 very expensive figures they completely billed figures on preorder but delivered a year later ..high prices low delivery, a problem to buy ..Matty collector was better they released each month one or two figures upto to three every month and they billed when figures were ready to be shipped..

I never really minded when minor details on the toy didn't match the content. I never even minded repaints to widen the character selection in lines like G1 Transformers did with all the seekers. It was more the lazy repaints of the exact same toy as a new version of the same character. Shared parts in MOTU made the characters all seem fairly equal physically.

I'm still mad that my favorite MOTU chapter, The New Adventures of He-Man, got so few figures in the line. However, my anger isn't devoted to you. There's only so much a brand manager can do if that set of characters don't sell well. Rather, my anger's directed at the Vintage, PoP, and 200X fans who constantly made grandiose statements on the discussion forums about the need for all the fandom factions to support each other. They swore up and down that if one one group bought all the other factions' characters, then the other factions would support the one. I have an entire sub line of 200X characters I don't even care about just because I wanted the 200X fans to reciprocate to the NA fans. And yet every time an NA character went on sale, it sold poorly. Moral of the story: people in fandoms are full of bantha poodoo.

@wetalkeverything7891

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Agree with you mate. I was a classic 82 series fan, but I enjoyed the other factions. New Adventures needed way more love, I certainly like it more than 200X. I hope it can be continued someday, much like Thundercats was by Super 7 (even though the prices are insane, it was worth it to finish the core characters for me).

Oh yeah the thin limbs on Leech has bugged me all to hell and back but I'm trying to ignore it

I didn't like rockon but I thought Leach was so cool. I got him new from Hills.

@spectorcreative1872

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Hills?

@Alex_Reynolds

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@@spectorcreative1872 Late, lamented department store that had outstanding toy departments. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hills_(store)

@Alex_Reynolds

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90 seconds worth of nostalgia: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pp2Cw5N9dNu9cbQ.html

The thing that irked me is that it took way too long to get an up-down wrist joint into the line. New Adventures He-Man has it, and Laser Light He-Man has it (albeit on the wrong hand), but it never made it to a regular old He-Man or Prince Adam. They can't even do it in Masterverse! Never shall he hold aloft his magic sword.

The only thing I hear fans complaining about Classics are the bios, especially the "real names" (e.g. Beastman being named Raqquill). Without the bios the line would be almost perfect and you should be proud of that. Maybe the other annoying thing would be something like action features that were understandably cut due to budgeting/tooling.

@spectorcreative1872

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Well the nice thing about the bios is they are very easy to just ignor!

@Beedo_Sookcool

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I quite liked the bios. I think they did a pretty good job of tying all the disparate incarnations of MOTU together, all things considered. And it's not like R'qazz's mother NAMED him "Beast Man." That'd just be weird. 😉

@ryanvegntech

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@@spectorcreative1872 That was true, but problem is now some of it has bled into newer MOTU content as canon lore

@ryanvegntech

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@@Beedo_Sookcool i don't see why does anyone care what the guy currently at Mattel 30 years later thinks Beastman's mother called him or even if he had a mother, but when you're playing with the toy you can give it whatever back story you like. The company trend of trying to get more money for old rope, ie. taking decades old characters and material, inventing new bios and backstories not only can be irritating to some old fans but also risks dating these characters faster than they should. IMO either officially bio near the start, or bring in new characters, not start changing up well known and established characters of 30 years.

@Beedo_Sookcool

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​@@ryanvegntech Believe me, if there's anyone who will back you to the hilt on hating change in beloved fictional properties, it's me. Reboots, remakes, redesigns, and especially "re-imaginings" rub me the wrong way, and I'll never stop grumbling about them. (For example, as well-written as many of the MYP cartoons were, I still hate the art style to this day.) But the thing about the bios is that they didn't really CHANGE that much about MOTU; they just ADDED to it. I don't like change in what I love, but I do like MORE of it. Plus, you can just discard the bits you don't like and carry on as you were. For example, despite some of the amazing visuals and some cool ideas in them, I still think the Disney "Star Wars" sequels were largely crap, thrown together with cheap, lazy, hack writing and warring egos, and I pretty much just treat them like they don't exist. Same goes for the "New Jedi Order" books. And my life is happier that way.

It bothers me that we can’t get a proper current cartoon with all the lore you speak of and characters you’ve profiled

@spectorcreative1872

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Well that is up to Universal!

Mighty Spector is #1 regret.

Lack of proper he man head should been there from day one. Subscription not in comic shops

Don’t care about Leech’s reuse at all. I prefer the Classics look of him. Same with Rock guys. Would never notice the leg bands.

Bet you came from CT on the east eating pizza then went to Cali and had what in the world is this crap? Are there even Italians out here?

Distribution sucked then as it sticks today . Mattel is just a shitty company

That lame “Spector” character was the worst, especially the origin, retcon and explanation 🙄