Have the Gaza Encampment Protests Been Infiltrated by Psychopaths?
Here is a clip from our most recent podcast with social psychologist, Ronnie Janoff-Bulman. In it, she and Dr. Peterson discuss the onslaught of college protesters currently advocating for Hamas, and debate the susceptibility for these groups to be infiltrated by bad actors.
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This woman said so many demonstrably false things in 13 minutes it was hard to count them. "The left doesn't want power" and "The number of police doesn't matter" were my favorites.
@so-shuseitzler8403
20 күн бұрын
And the proud boys blame
@Steven-fi4gf
20 күн бұрын
I stopped at " the left doesn't want power" enough bullshit for one day!
@myrahouse2368
19 күн бұрын
NPD is rife there….
@aberkae
19 күн бұрын
@so-shuseitzler8403 On January 6th the Feds did the same thing rinse repeat. New Data shows 40% of arrests on Campuses were not of students who attend those Universities. Bunch of paid DNC trolls.
@debraconsorti3648
19 күн бұрын
She is delusional. They were not peaceful they took over buildings called for the death of the Jews. The agitator were inside the encampment. All paid for by the democratic party.
“The Left doesn’t want power…” the single statement where she lost all intellectual credibility.
@talia8581
21 күн бұрын
Spot on 🎉
@allisonpeeples3677
21 күн бұрын
It's always the proud boys fault lol.
@tracieschneider1633
21 күн бұрын
💯
@mikeguilmette776
21 күн бұрын
No doubt . . . at very least, she's out of touch with the radicals taking over the left, or denying they exist.
@joehutchinson24
21 күн бұрын
This is what makes many on the radical left so scary. They really believe they are saints. They are completely oblivious to just how power hungry they are.
I've been to University and I've worked in business. In general the amount of psychopathic narcissism in the lowest level professor outstrips even the most self absorbed salespeople and CEOs. This woman is completely captured and willing to excuse anything for her own side while wildly inflating the actions of her opponents.
@enidmarsh9142
21 күн бұрын
Notice how Jordans normal one to two hour interviews are mercifully 10 minutes with this lady.
@benjaminkellner6245
21 күн бұрын
@@enidmarsh9142This is a clip from an hour and half long podcast
@Amanitaland
21 күн бұрын
@@enidmarsh9142Have you seen the other video with her. It’s an hour and 20 mins. This is an edited down version
@Amanitaland
21 күн бұрын
I mean psychopath is high in both. And Trump does exhibited some behaviors.
@RandomWrongDeletion
21 күн бұрын
@@Amanitaland You for sure lose your credibility when you bring Trump up out of nowhere to disparage him, the guy lives rent free in your head
Paid professional organizers are embedded into these protests. It is extremely naive to think otherwise.
@CaitSith592
21 күн бұрын
Thank you it's so obvious
@JeffyPDiddy
21 күн бұрын
With the Tides foundation sponsoring it, it's factual at this point.
@mikeguilmette776
21 күн бұрын
Pay close attention to the signs the protesters carry. You will often see who is sponsoring the protests.
@fuowl666
21 күн бұрын
Hamas and people from Iran are organizing at least some of the protests. I saw a video by some journalists documenting this in Germany.
@jeremybrimmer1990
21 күн бұрын
They were weaponizing milkshakes, some anarchist cookbook trash.
Proud boys? Where are the pictures of the Proud Boys, first i heard of that. My goodness.
@stevenlightfoot6479
21 күн бұрын
This lady is a clueless academic. Really, disappointing guest.
@robertsmith4681
21 күн бұрын
They convicted in the end, however "unfair" it might have been..
@edwardbain5391
21 күн бұрын
She is full of shit
@edwardbain5391
21 күн бұрын
So you are a college president. What would you decide? It is obvious letting a campus camp out continue to go, on your school property is asking for trouble. Number one it is against school policy number two who will be to blame when a bomb goes off in the camp or when the protesters push the limits again when a building is taken over or a student dies for some reason? This woman is full of crap when she discounts school administration's responsibilities to their jobs, their institution or thier communities.
@captglenn100
21 күн бұрын
They are a good "buzzword" scapegoat used by the left.
On her point about the left not looking for strong men, she conveniently forgot about Stalin, Mao, Castro, Che Guevara the list goes on. She may dispute that they are leftist but that would be to, in some sense, axiomatically divorce authoritarianism from the left. Which is not fair. The left can be authoritarian just as the right. Authoritarianism isn't an exclusive to the right. On the last point about how we should focus on inequalities in dealing with these social injustices the devil is in the details. Will we dispute is not that these problems exist but in how we solve these problems. The left and right don't deny the existence of inequalities and disparities. They dispute over how to solve them.
@JohnSmith-ti2kp
21 күн бұрын
@michaelalex5245-- Why did you leave out Hitler?
@Jason-rl7nf
21 күн бұрын
Authoritarianism is far more leftist than right. If you go all the way right, it's anarchy. NO government. NO authority. If you go all the way left, it's communism. FULL authority. State authority. The vast majority of people nowadays are not only ignorant to what the left-right spectrum is, they actually believe it's the opposite of what it actually is. Perfect example, most people nowadays think the Nazis were right wing. Even though they were socialists with socialist IN THEIR PARTY NAME. They used state control to control everyone and everything and killed anyone who opposed them. That's leftist authoritarianism to the extreme. And yet most people think NAZIS, NAtionalist soZIalists (German spelling with a Z), were right wing. NAZI is literally a short form for National Socialist.
@FaithwalkerTodd
21 күн бұрын
It was ridiculous for her to make such an argument because the left is the collective or the hive mind. The right is the individual, pull your self up by your bootstraps type.
@TastyZoidberg
21 күн бұрын
@@JohnSmith-ti2kp and Mussolino
@toolegit2quit173
21 күн бұрын
She thinks that only the Right wants power and strongmen because she’s bought into the fallacious Marxist trope of “only the Left can be authoritarian.” She’s either being intentionally intellectually dishonest, or is unforgivably naive. Either way, she’s not worth listening to.
she doesn't think people can be individuals, they are only identified by group. A very dangerous assumption to make.
@SeleckPlays
21 күн бұрын
The point she is trying to make is, what happens when groups of people are treated poorly? For example, right now many people cannot make a living wage. There are many individuals who are both homeless and employed. Those people should have a voice. The stupid mistake the left makes is grouping people by skin color and gender instead of by economic class and zip code.
@mikeguilmette776
21 күн бұрын
@@SeleckPlays The left shouldn't be grouping individuals by economic "class" or ZIP code either.
@retardedseizure301
21 күн бұрын
I agree that it’s a dangerous assumption to make, but I don’t think that’s what she was saying. It sounded like she was talking about the practical implementation of how to help people- and on a large scale, you can’t treat each individual, it’s more efficient to approach similar groups and treat a group. So it seems like she’s referring to the scalability of how to help people who need it.
@psilonemo9459
21 күн бұрын
@@SeleckPlays Happens in the first place due to insisting on treating people in groups. :D
@zzconmanzz1
21 күн бұрын
@SeleckPlays but the groups of people that are employed and homeless are currently due to the left and their neo capitalism, which backs big Corp, big tech and big pharma, and they hold the ideology using sex and race to further their power grab.
In Puerto Rico I was being robbed by my same group. But when they come here, the criminals that belong to my group, now suddenly they belong to a “oppressed group”. It’s insanity. And when I got here, the first person that ripped me off, was one of my own group that came to this country for the same reasons as I did, to work on over the road trucking.
@johnsmithers8913
21 күн бұрын
A lot of people believe that Western Civilization is a result of magic soil. Maybe not literally, but essentially they do. They can't, or don't want to see, the connection between culture and a successful civilization. They don't, because it would mean they would have to accept that "Dead old white man Patriarchy culture" is what is required for a successful civilization. Instead they delusionally believe that they can get rid of that old successful culture and just import millions of people and something magical will happen to transform the new masses..... maybe the soil?
@Elmucaroarrebatao
21 күн бұрын
@@johnsmithers8913 We can ever go deeper than “white old men”. Is ideas concepts. Because the first white old men that colonized USA were from Spain. St. Augustine is the oldest city in this country. But the ideas/concepts that the English/UK brought here, worked way better. Is obvious that South America has way more natural resources than Noth America. Governments, all of them always have oppressed the peasant. Only the UK brought the better ideas to fight Government oppression of the individual. Is always been a fight against government, from the outside in.
@strawberryquark
21 күн бұрын
Two very interesting comments. I hope you are no bots 😅
@Elmucaroarrebatao
21 күн бұрын
@@strawberryquark we are carbon based bots 😅. Have you gone deep the rabbit hole why “Cognitive Dissonance” is a thing? What’s the purpose? Hahaha
@Amanitaland
21 күн бұрын
@@johnsmithers8913They are Homo Sapiens like everyone else is on Earth. I’m Irish and in the 1840s we showed up and burned down NYC in the draft riots and we were treated like animals and we were the criminals and robbed people. The draft riots were the worst riot in NYC history, up there in the United States. Guess what, now we are Americans and most people consider the Irish and Catholic to be American. So times change. Doesn’t have so much to do with where you are from you will be Americanized.
I love how she blames everyone else. We’re not buying it
@mickhahayeah
21 күн бұрын
We're no longer buying lies of Israel and Zionists. No beheaded babies, no sexual assault, no people burning in ovens, no tunnels. Wake the eff up Susie.
@jordanemma
21 күн бұрын
I don't think whe was blaming everyone else at all she was speaking of accountability on both "sides"
@jordanemma
21 күн бұрын
But I say that from a neutral stand I don't support anyone being hurt for political reasons
@ruthgrady2824
21 күн бұрын
Truly?
@jimbobhootenanny4440
21 күн бұрын
@jordanemma that's every war ever......
She sounds like an apologist for the Hamas supporters.
@wplains
21 күн бұрын
Have you any doubt? Look at her Karen haircut!
@mickhahayeah
21 күн бұрын
you sound J3 w i sh
@ArnieD17
21 күн бұрын
@@DanielHatchman "None so blind as those who will not see."
@mikeguilmette776
21 күн бұрын
@@mickhahayeah And?
@jackiebiggs7071
21 күн бұрын
@@DanielHatchmanI've watched a couple of the student leaders being interviewed, don't remember names or which uni, and they declared openly their support of hamas and for me what's more alarming they were young women. They really have no understanding of fundamental Islamic practices. Someone needs to put in front of them some books about isis and Afghanistan treatment of women. Hamas is the child of isis.
The absolute nieveity of this woman. There are people that will use any means in their quest for power. That is one of the flaws in socialism, they never seem to account for that person.
@hdr10man71
20 күн бұрын
She's an apologist nutter
@quirkasaurussaurus2896
18 күн бұрын
she's the lying sociopath jordan is trying to raise awareness about...
@daffydumasduckun
3 күн бұрын
You misspelled stupidity. 😂
"Only a few bad apples" wasnt until x or y from a different political view showed up. Come on lady really, accept some concept of responsibility towards your group as well
@TheAdekrijger
21 күн бұрын
Leftist and responsibility don't mix.
@jhb1493
21 күн бұрын
But....but TRUMP! ORANGE MAN BADDDDDD!!
@tomg.8904
21 күн бұрын
Yep, called bs on that one as well.
@Reiman33
21 күн бұрын
They. Cant.
“Mostly incredibly peaceful” Incredible claim.
@ericfeldkamp3788
21 күн бұрын
Most soldiers are not engaged in combat (logistics, medicine, intel, cooks, etc), ergo war is mostly peaceful.
@murielbaith5445
21 күн бұрын
Sit ins in the 60s weren't totally peaceful. They burned university buildings, and threw bags of urine and feces on national guard troops at Kent State before the shootings. The national guard was mostly made up of young college age men.
@muchamad613
19 күн бұрын
It's for their own cause so it's always peaceful no matter what
@tabs128
18 күн бұрын
If she could send in a single, just a single of this peaceful demonstration of protest then I might perhaps believe her
@ArrosticiniVore
18 күн бұрын
She has MAYOR TDS...
Infiltrated? Naaah, RUN BY.
Only halfway through & have concluded that she's willfully blind.
@bestdjaf7499
17 күн бұрын
People like Aristotle & DaVinci... used to run the Universities. They did Politics & Philosophy & Chemistry & Physics & Math .... & They would draw Mona Lisa part time.
@jackhunter4556
16 күн бұрын
That’s when I stopped listening, only so much bullshit you can take.
@Warwck24
12 күн бұрын
Hmmmm...
@citytrees1752
11 күн бұрын
yeah, I clicked on this with an open mind, but I can't listen to her past the 6 minute mark
God bless JP for asking her “when does the LEFT go too far”. Perfect timing for that question!!!!!
@jrstf
21 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure she will not allow her favored policies ever to be evaluated for their effect.
@jeremybrimmer1990
21 күн бұрын
Doesn't matter now. Edit: Russia, Russia, Russia. 8 years of orange man bad. Ninchy McPips is their guy. Veil was torn long ago.
@Amanitaland
21 күн бұрын
The thing is JP talks about how liberals can’t draw boundaries when liberalism literally created the constitution of the United States.
@user-ym4xy6us5e
21 күн бұрын
@@Amanitaland Modern day Leftists have nothing in common with classical Liberals. Modern day Leftists preach diversity and equity, they promote racial division by arbitrarily dividing society into Marxist oppressor and victim classes. Classical Liberals believe in equality and the concept that a man should not be judged by the colour of his skin but by the content of his character. You may as well shut your ignorant mouth.
@mogonja420
21 күн бұрын
@@Amanitalandsemantics are fun
Jordan makes sense. You can’t reason with psychopaths!
“There’s not much evidence that more police make a difference.” Well, it sure does make a difference when there is less!
@peripheralparadox4218
20 күн бұрын
If there’s a difference with less there’s a difference with more. I didn’t even need a degree to work that out.
Infiltrated by psychopaths? Always has been.
@TastyZoidberg
21 күн бұрын
Sociopaths infiltrated by psychopats.
@Unxpekted
21 күн бұрын
psychopaths are the elite running both sides. wake up
@runawaysuzie
21 күн бұрын
@@TastyZoidberg Autists infiltrating psychopaths infiltrating sociopaths infiltrating morons ad infi-yadayadah. Russian dolls all the way down. Spergpocoalypse ensuing. Words etc. Many words. Big words. Fake emotive sounds. Compelling. Judging, criticism. Assertions, "*justified*" by conveniently possessed status- does not equal truth - acts like does. Telling you what to think.
@runawaysuzie
21 күн бұрын
Autists infiltrating psychopaths infiltrating sociopaths infiltrating morons ad infi-yadayadah. Russian dolls all the way down. Spergpocoalypse ensuing. Words etc. Many words. Big words. Fake emotive sounds. Compelling. Judging, criticism. Assertions, "*justified*" by conveniently possessed status- does not equal truth - acts like does. Telling you what to think.
@runawaysuzie
21 күн бұрын
Autists infiltrating psychopaths infiltrating sociopaths infiltrating morons ad infi-yadayadah. Russian dolls all the way down. Spergpocoalypse ensuing. Words etc. Many words. Big words. Fake emotive sounds. Compelling. Judging, criticism. Assertions, "*justified*" by conveniently possessed status- does not equal truth - acts like does. Telling you what to think.
"there's not that much evidence that more police make much of a difference" Again, she's so consumed by her own worldview she can't see beyond her nose.
@jhb1493
21 күн бұрын
She's pretty much the average "Ivory Tower" academic. She can think what she wants, go along with all her delusions and fantasies and projections (the Left being magically resistant to infiltration by psychos, for example) because she never has to confront the failure of her ideas. She lives in a bubble where actual reality rarely if ever corrects her ideas. If an engineer builds a bridge and it collapses, that's an obvious indictment of their ability. If an intellectual spews out nonsense that does real harm in the real world, they pay no personal price for that. Peterson is also an academic, but he's lived in the real world and - I think importantly - comes from a working class, rural background. He has been able to think through ideas and policies and understand where they will go in practice out in the world - which is how foresaw so much of the damage that is being done.
@jrstf
21 күн бұрын
Thoughts like that make it impossible for her to understand Jan 6.
@spracketskooch
21 күн бұрын
Depends on where you live. In a city, more police would make a noticible difference. Where I live, in the boonies, more police would make no difference. The distances and times are just too large. Like every property would have to have its own dedicated cop. Also, the police force has to be composed of decent people, elsewise they become the criminals. Look at Chicago's PD as an example of what damage a corrupt police force can do. There's a sweet spot.
@jrstf
21 күн бұрын
@@spracketskooch - Bill Clinton promised 100,000 new police officers. Did nothing to put them where they were needed, only the number mattered.
@unanielson8837
21 күн бұрын
Living in her bubble, brainwashed.
She lost me at this: "it was very peaceful at Columbia."
@Amanitaland
21 күн бұрын
Well it can be. Most protests start peaceful and then end violently.
@stormbringerseven8288
20 күн бұрын
She's an idiot.
i'll be more surprised if they are ever infiltrated by people that aren't psychopaths
@spracketskooch
21 күн бұрын
Would that even be an infiltration at that point?
They weren't infiltrated by psychopaths. That would imply that the original organizers had good intentions and have been overthrown. The psychopaths were the original instigators.
@ca8944
21 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@johneden2033
21 күн бұрын
Correct. The founders of the modern leftist movements were legitimately evil people.
@texasrodeogirl3814
21 күн бұрын
Yes, the inmates are running the prison.
@H.Hardrada
19 күн бұрын
The proof in that is that these grievance movements were narcissistic from their inception. I.e. feminism is not much more than the expression of female egotism.
"People will feel more unified if we have good jobs that pay well" Yes. That's why we don't want wages at lower levels to completely collapse by flooding the labor market with illegal immigrants.
@markedfang
20 күн бұрын
Absolutely cracked me up. Bravo. 100% correct.
I've been in many protests! Many of them aimed at me! -That LINE!
@Lynnette4
21 күн бұрын
God bless you for your service! Thank you!
'Little Miss Can't-Be-Wrong'. So glad Peterson has found some distance from intsitutional academia. He is healing as a person. This chick is a lost cause. She is mis-hearing the topic on purpose. eeek.
@johnnysheehy
11 күн бұрын
Healing person that tells Israel to "give them hell". Healing his own bank balance with the daily wire for sure.
I bet the Jewish students weren't feeling very peaceful with those encampments. Remember history, Germany, 1930s... SMH
@fiddlesticks6146
21 күн бұрын
i bet those Palestinians arent feeling peaceful in their own home... the IRONY of Jewish history being flipped
@Amanitaland
21 күн бұрын
There is a difference between being Jewish and being Israeli. And Judaism and Israel. I know many Jewish Americans that are not fans of Israel
@OhioVworld
21 күн бұрын
@@AmanitalandAround 11% of American Jewry is antizionist. Mostly religious zealots who would prefer a Jewish state based on Torah ala Iran being based largely on Sharia. That is factual.
@75idm
21 күн бұрын
@@fiddlesticks6146 |They feel as safe as one could feel in the middle east if they were not trying to annihilate Jews. You seem to know nothing about Jewish history.
@75idm
21 күн бұрын
@@Amanitaland True, they have been brainwashed and intimidated by left leaning organizations and islamist for a very long time in a very systematic well funded way
When I was in college, I had to work. I had no time for all this stupidity.
@jrstf
21 күн бұрын
Yup, I was in engineering.
@lesliemacmillan9932
21 күн бұрын
Same with me. They mostly aren't students, not at McGill and U of Toronto. They are mostly union goons from the Steelworkers (and other unions they now control, like ACTRA and the communications workers.) Many private sector workers in non-steel-related industries belong to the Steelworkers. And then there are the public sector unions like CUPE and the teachers. This is really a Revolutionary Communist Party effort, nothing to do with Gaza. That's just an excuse or a front.
@Lori1Cor15
21 күн бұрын
Yep. I was pre-med!
@etherashe5164
20 күн бұрын
Same here.
@ElliotDouglass
14 күн бұрын
What is stupid exactly ?
"Conservatives just need to become socialists. Then we could all get along and have both social order AND social justice." As a conservative-leaning libertarian, her argument chilled me to the core. It is nightmarish to imagine a society that would combine the admittedly control-oriented aspects of the right with the obsession with economic equity of the left. And we don't have to imagine it. We can read about it in the books about Maoist China and the USSR. Janoff-Bulman made some excellent points in the free-to-the-public discussion about shattered assumptions and trauma, and I appreciated her concession to the disastrous effects of the defund the police movement. She is obviously an intelligent, confident, and capable woman, and I wouldn't be surprised if she has genuinely good intentions. But it is the intelligent, confident, capable people with good intentions and fundamentally anti-freedom ideals that have done the most harm to humankind over the past two centuries, and perhaps since the beginning. Terrifying woman.
"The Left is not looking for power." Got it.
@jasminehouston-burns1691
16 күн бұрын
In all fairness, I think they don't think they're looking for power. They think of conservatism as this tyranical, misogynistic, colonizing group of white men and delusional women who love hierarchy. They really think their position is morally self-evident, undeniably decent. I think they're at the stage where they're thinking "if we work together we can achieve our aims, we have more power than we realize" and they're basically aiming very directly at turning words into action, and we can see the results of those words quite clearly.
Free speech does not give license for poor behaviors and breaking rules. Emotional control is a necessary skill to be able to have difficult discussions and hope that we may find agreement or compromise for the futures. Lack of emotional control will fuel the wild fire of violence and hatred that will derail any progress or hopes for change.
@JagadguruSvamiVegananda
21 күн бұрын
freedom of speech: the ability to speak one’s mind without fear of RETRIBUTION. Normally, freedom of speech is dependent on the prevailing governmental rules, at least at the public level. In private, freedom to speak one’s mind, is entirely contingent on the rules of the particular house or institution in question. Freedom of speech does not negate the CONSEQUENCES of one’s speech. In order to give one example, if a child berates his father, obviously, he ought to be punished for that sinful deed. In order to propose another example, a genuine king will permit his subjects to criticize his actions in a constructive manner, as long as they refrain from deliberate insults, which is a criminal offence (see Chapter 12 of "A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity"). A large proportion of humanity seems to agree that one should refrain from speaking words that incite violent acts, and that one ought not yell the word “Fire!!” in a crowded room or auditorium, purely as a practical joke. Those who believe that free speech should be totally unconditional, will not be able to sustain that opinion if his or her children spout insubordinate speech, as in the first example. So, to put it very succinctly, just as it is possible to execute immoral acts (that is to say, bodily acts such as theft, fornication, public obscenities, and murder), it is possible for a human to make verbal enunciations that are objectively immoral, far more than just those actions normally recognized by most jurisdictions, such as libel and slander. Any speech that is contrary to the principles of dharma, is unethical, and must be punished by a superior - again, few parents would excuse a child of theirs who belittled, insulted or even instruct them! Read Chapter 12 to learn the most authoritative interpretation of law/morality/ethics [“dharma”, in Sanskrit]).
@conveyor2
21 күн бұрын
Actually is does give exactly that license.
@mickhahayeah
21 күн бұрын
@@JagadguruSvamiVegananda These people don't understand that the police will gladly turn on them if they have any "wrong think" or go against the establishment. January 6th should have been a wakeup call to the conservatives but I see that it wasn't. The difference between January 6th and BLM riots was that the establishment was in support of the BLM riots. This is an actual peaceful protest while BLM wasn't. Stand up for everyone's right to protest and free speech, even if you disagree with what is being said. United we are strong, divided we will be conquered.
@Blake4625kHz
21 күн бұрын
@@JagadguruSvamiVegananda Well put.
@mikeguilmette776
21 күн бұрын
@@JagadguruSvamiVegananda I am one of those people who believes in an absolute right to free speech, simply because if we move down the road of deciding what is and is not acceptable speech, we will more than likely go too far. This is not to say there shouldn't be consequences for what a person says - far from it. But those advocating for speech restrictions in the West want to prohibit people from saying anything objectionable in the first place. What's more, parents are the only "true" authority, as you correctly observe that parents have authority over their children. But that authority is essential in the child-rearing process. However, among adults, authority is illusionary, as society - another illusion - is simply adults making agreements with each other. Therefore, adults should not be telling other adults what they can and cannot say in the first place.
She didn’t give and credence to the actual experience of Jewish students who were not allowed to even walk through the encampments - they were targeted and yelled out. So I guess antisemitism is acceptable at a “peaceful” protest😡
@drewb207
21 күн бұрын
Yes, it is acceptable at a peaceful protest since we have free speech. We don't have to agree with what is being said, but people have the right to express themselves, and they should. It is very dangerous to restrict speech. What concerns me more about all this is the reaction to the protests, and now the criminalization of speech and protests just because the speech hits a nerve. So now our government is making it illegal to speak or criticize a certain state/people, while at the same time criminalizing the religious texts of a religion that vastly supports that state/people. When people lose their ability to protest and speak, violence will be the outcome.
@margaretbenhamu7784
21 күн бұрын
@@drewb207 First of all I wasn’t talking about speech. I was talking about harassment of Jewish students because they are Jewish. That is Jew- hatred and not free speech. Also the law passed from what I understand was not to limit or make any speech illegal- it just gave a more precise definition of what may constitute antisemitism in a public space. That so if a person is accused of that by a school we can have a clear definition . They have that for racism and other bigotry. It’s not making a speech illegal. It’s just defining what it is.
@OhioVworld
21 күн бұрын
@@drewb207it is acceptable to physically keep people out of a public space on the basis of race or religion? Are you sure you want to say that?
@drewb207
21 күн бұрын
@@OhioVworld Absolutely not and that is not my intention with what I wrote. I know there are bad actors who are paid agitators along with the protestors. It's my understanding a lot of the protests include Jewish students and faculty. I cannot speak to the reports of people being physically kept out of the public space or classrooms. I think that is all based on what news source you read or watch as you can always find opposing views. My concern is with free speech and freedom of assembly.
@drewb207
21 күн бұрын
@@margaretbenhamu7784 My initial response is not showing up so I will give it another try. The law that was passed did criminalize speech by updating the definition to a "working" definition that isn't defined at all. Yes there are examples provided of what is considered anti- but the law is overbroad. If that law had the same language but applied to Muslims, Americans would be outraged. To be clear, I am not for hatred of any people/race, etc. I want to make sure our rights of speech and public assembly are protected. Right now we don't know the enforcement measures how this will be enforced and what the penalties are for violating the ridiculous law, but I guess we will find out in a couple of years. I guess when churches begin to lose their 501c3 and the church has to go underground for reading "forbidden" scriptures people will finally wake up. This hatred should be discussed openly in the public square so these ideas can be exposed and shot down. The restriction of speech and assembly will produce the very thing the "powers" that be are trying to stop.
"You don't help at individual [levels] you help at group levels." I think she has that exactly backwards. I'm not convinced it's even possible to actively help at a group level. You can remove arbitrary barriers that prevent people from reaching their full potential, but that has already been done for the most part. From what I can tell, almost every time we try to actively intervene at a group level the outcomes range from just not working, to abject tragedy on a mass scale.
Unless you actually live in the region, the only valid response to this conflict is "war is unfortune and thank God i dont live there". Anything other than that is a disingenuous attempt at virtue signalling. Cuz i dont see any of these people caring about the conflicts happening all over the continent of africa, where im from.
@CaitSith592
21 күн бұрын
The US Government is funding this war so maybe that's why people are angry. Stop watching Daily Wire it's just neocon propaganda now
@user-ng6zu5bx1x
21 күн бұрын
No, it’s because Israel can ONLY do what they’re doing because they have US government support. They’re internationally condemned.
@jhb1493
21 күн бұрын
I 100% agree with you. There is something about this conflict that just attracts the worst sort of people. It's like the perfect screen for them to project their egotism and issues on, and I mean people on either "side". It's *almost* like they only get involved and care when it's about them getting attention, feeling virtuous and having an entirely evil enemy to focus on. In my experience, very very few people are actually informed, motivated by dispassionate morality and apply their judgment evenly. VERY few, and in the crowds at rallies and protests like this I'd guess it'd be close to none.
@spracketskooch
21 күн бұрын
Also, at the end of the day there's not much, if anything, that I can do to stop wars in foreign countries. I can offer prayers, but that's about it.
@drudini5812
21 күн бұрын
Extremely correct.
I wish Janoff-Bulman would define "mainly peaceful protesting."
9:56 "You don't help an individual. You help at group levels." She treats it as axiomatic and even takes pride. Disgusting.
@pb08203087
21 күн бұрын
No wonder when they claim to help blacks and a black conservative says, "we don't want your handouts," their response would be, "You ain't black."
@williammkydde
21 күн бұрын
And - attention! - she's a psychologist. Not acknowledging individuality.
@citytrees1752
11 күн бұрын
What's she's not saying out loud is 'if you don't belong to the right group, you are not going to get help, and you don't deserve help'.
I'd love to see Jordan interviewing the much loved New England Judge Frank Caprio whose not quite well at the moment. Given a lifetime of famously showing tremendous compassion to men and women who've lost their way in life, I'd love to hear him speak to Peterson on good and evil, morality and free will.
@eveeggleston7611
21 күн бұрын
Me too im from England and came across his videos a while ago what a lovely man he is ❤
Jordan, I grew up in westchester New York 10 years ago. There was always antisemitism thrown at us from neighboring towns. I went to a liberal arts college in Maryland where I was belittled for being Jewish I was told to be ashamed if I took my birthright. A decade later I am done being silent. The girl in college who verbally attacked me for being a Jew is a pro Hamas supporter extremist and in college was an extreme leftist. This was 6ish years ago. This has been going on for so long. You are respected by many and I am so proud that you are not avoiding this topic. Thank you Jordan. The extreme leftists have been attacking people from all backgrounds for so long. This is not new, and after a decade I’m done being silent and I’m done hiding my identity.
These encampments haven’t been infiltrated by anyone. They have been orchestrated and staffed by them!
@Amanitaland
21 күн бұрын
No I’ve lived on college campuses and I know people who would have gone to protest like these in their free time.
So basically by refusing to consider people as individuals this lady just proved the title correct. They’re not only susceptible they refuse to consider that this could even begin to happen.
I STAND WITH GOD.
@d.tr6176
21 күн бұрын
You do that.
@mightyFaris
21 күн бұрын
Cover yourself up then, bot.
@rileysowersray
21 күн бұрын
Amen Jesus Christ will rain supreme above all, ignore these dumb bots lol
@fuowl666
21 күн бұрын
God hates us all.
@titikkoma8586
21 күн бұрын
HOSEA 11 : 1 When ISRAEL was Child I loved him and out of Egypt. I called My son..🥰
Finally someone's talking about the real issue "Narcissistic Islamic Disorder" Arrogance, entitlement, Projecting, gaslighting, bullying...
@ca8944
21 күн бұрын
🎯
Implying pro-Hamas people aren't psychopaths to begin with.
@CaitSith592
21 күн бұрын
That's the bs propaganda! most of these people are for a ceasefire not Hamas, like me I say fuck Hamas and the IDF
@SeleckPlays
21 күн бұрын
People can be brainwashed and deceived, and they are not necessarily psychopaths.
@Isa-jr9en
21 күн бұрын
@@SeleckPlays but you are responsable for your actions!
@trees915
21 күн бұрын
@@SeleckPlays People who support psychopaths are psychopaths!
@enidmarsh9142
21 күн бұрын
@@Isa-jr9en Not feeling responsible for your actions is a pretty good definition of a psychopath.
They are essentially taking over the University of Edinburgh here..
@fuowl666
21 күн бұрын
Really? How is it in Edinburgh? Are there also camps and people protesting?
@KevinS47
21 күн бұрын
@@fuowl666 yup! I've seen at least two camps, near the center but at least they aren't too disruptive. Sometimes they march around the city shouting through their megaphone. What I have a problem with is that they demand the University to take their side publicly..
@fuowl666
21 күн бұрын
@@KevinS47 Thanks for you answer. My original comment seems to be suppressed. I love Edinburgh.
@OhioVworld
21 күн бұрын
@@fuowl666You’re done as a civilization. You will be swallowed by the Umma in 2/3 generations. Sad, Scotland was a nice place. Demographics matter….
Being able to observe and comprehend the state of the world like Dr. Peterson is painful indeed. What a blessing and curse it must be for this man, who's such a gift in our times. He really is pouring out himself for the service of us 'simple' folks, watching here... Never cease to pray for him. Thank you for all you do, always, Dr. Peterson. 🙏💖
I'm a UCLA student. The encampment was more or less peaceful for some time, but then the psychopathic controlling types which Jordan referred to began to exert their influence and started causing trouble for students just trying to get to class. Then the encampments were declared illegal, and at that point counter protestors came and began full blown brawls with the people in the encampment. The process Jordan described where the radicals (on both sides, mind you) do what they can to enact chaos is exactly what happened here. Once police came, they had no choice but to depose of the encampments through forcible means.
@WifeOfTheBeast
18 күн бұрын
This is the same playbook they have been using for years. They rewrite history by claiming the peaceful side are aggitators, and that the agitators are "peaceful revolutionaries".
Painful when someone doesn't listen to sentences, just trigger words, and unloads bias instead of arguments for perspective.
Were they "infiltrated" or are they just that?
@jimbobhootenanny4440
21 күн бұрын
Lol idk if she understands what she said but she just called them all sociopaths if there not infiltrated 😅😂
@spracketskooch
21 күн бұрын
I think they were infiltrated, just a long time ago. The original movement wasn't even a movement, it was just naive people trying to be kind. That is ample hunting ground for psychopathic predators.
@williammkydde
21 күн бұрын
JP gives them too much of a break. They ARE psychos. Normies just want to attend classes and enjoy their young years. Normies don't join this crap action.
Why do the universities let food and water be taken into the encampments?
@spracketskooch
21 күн бұрын
Because we don't starve protestors in the United States, even the stupid ones.
@zijianzhao8419
21 күн бұрын
I believe by the end of it, most universities adopted the siege strategy you described: - stay as long as you want, but no more supplies
@enidmarsh9142
21 күн бұрын
University of Calgary let the police riot squad into the encampment within 24hrs. Video on Rebel news.
@nadasimich1267
21 күн бұрын
She is lost.
@lesliemacmillan9932
21 күн бұрын
McGill is not allowing Porta-Potties through its property into the encampment. I didn't see any Porta-Potties at the U of Toronto encampment when I walked by there two days ago. There is no vehicle access to Kings College Circle that surrounds the Front Campus. There is a fire hose snaking out from under the fence onto the grass near the walkway. Presumably it is carrying human waste out of the encampment and depositing it for someone else to have to clean up. If the university is smart it will figure out a way to keep the occupiers out of its buildings. (Most of them aren't students. They are mostly union goons running the encampment.) Diarrhoea typically breaks out in primitive encampments like this and down through history has killed far more soldiers than battle casualties.
The proud boys 🙄
@talia8581
21 күн бұрын
Ikr😂
@Earthad23
21 күн бұрын
The worst feature of the left is their inability to call out their own filth. Don’t be like the left.
@SeleckPlays
21 күн бұрын
It's a classic red herring. "wHAt AbOuT tHe pRoUD bOYs!"
@robertsmith4681
21 күн бұрын
You mean the guys who like to beat each other up while naming breakfast cereals, or the violent gang that the Feds put together with the same name ?
@williammkydde
21 күн бұрын
I'm surprised she didn't claim Trump was there in disguise.
“The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world that he did not exist.”
@vanjagagic9152
16 күн бұрын
Denis de Rougemont ❤
@ElliotDouglass
14 күн бұрын
Netanyahu quote ?
She seemed eager to defend her kids Columbia campus… I wonder where they were.
If you want a democracy, please leave the United States. How do you go from "you should talk to those most affected" such as when defunding the police is being considered, to "democracy." Democracy doesn't take those most affected into account, by definition. The ability for some people to hold two directly conflicting stances at the same time is astounding.
Ronnie Janoff-Bulman is a professor of psychology, one of the most leftist major, at UMass Amherst, one of the most leftist University.
21 күн бұрын
And that room she is in looks EXACTLY like every UMass academics' out there.
@jackiebiggs7071
21 күн бұрын
I looked at that too and thought much the same, its like a uniform.
@ca8944
21 күн бұрын
Is that this lady’s name?
I hope she reads these comments and considers additional viewpoints.
This is where JP is starting to go downhill.... The kids are right on this one. Is not supporting Hamas, is supporting the innocent people being killed by the IDF. 36000 are dead now. How many are enough?
When these two stay on an honest point like these protests are by design. These protests are because of “education” which has been propagandized by its own government. Getting tired.
I see that most politicians and intellectuals have a hard time criticizing their own group, when being able to do so is a sign that you can think for yourself. The main worry is that most people can't take the possibility of the group turning on them, making it hard to tell the plain truth.
@BabyGirlDontEvenPlay
21 күн бұрын
President Grover Cleveland (D) wrote in his book Good Citizenship, "We have fallen upon a time when it behooves every thoughtful citizen, whose political beliefs are based on reason and who cares enough for his manliness and duty to save them from barter, to realize that the organization of the party of his choice needs watching, and that at times it is not amiss critically to observe it's direction and tendency." This was written over 120 years ago. We used to have incredibly thoughtful and forward thinking leaders in this country. Biden is a KNOWN AND CONVICTED plagiarist, so I'm not surprised he doesn't know the words of his own party leaders of yesteryear.
"The Left doesn't look for strong leaders" No, but they fall to them. See: the interaction between the anarcho-socialists and the Soviet socialists that George Orwell describes in _Homage to Catalonia._
@Berserkism
20 күн бұрын
That's because no leftist can truly cede power, their one and only obsession. I haven't met a single one that was authoritarian to the core, and as for humour? Forget it, being laughed at fills them with a murderous rage, and you can see it seething below the surface. People are flat out moronic at this point to think you can reason with her ilk.
Power to the people!! That is always their chant..seldom do they see you as the people..only they are the people
Glad to see you handling yourself so well, as always. You're a true leader, Dr. Peterson. A leader of the pursuit of truth. Thank you for having these conversations and bringing a little more sense to this world
Talking to your anxious mother. Who now has a Degree.
Bitterness and unguided direction, i.e. an unhappy accident, is not the way to be. Known from my own experiences. God is my direction now, and he saves! It was a long journey to get to the point I'm at now, it was and is painful but worth it. Dr. JP was on of many channels I turned to to find direction. Thank you, Dr. P. Suicide, death or crime was the direction I was heading with only my selfish and shallow desires to fullfil.
I don‘t agree with her assessment, but she‘s obviously someone willing to debtate and take the opposition seriously, and I respect her for that. This is the left I was used to when I grew up (and I‘m younger than 30)
@Earthad23
21 күн бұрын
I’m glad you said it, so many people refusing to engage and just dismiss any other criticism.
You CAN NOT help in a group level and have an equal society it has to be down to the individual level to the point of self governance.
A good quote I read is 'Democracy is a balance between order and freedom'.
@rachellandry3116
21 күн бұрын
complete freedom is anarchy. Have you ever seen the cartoon "The Dot and the Line"? its an excellent analogy for rule vs chaos. and balance.
@jackiebiggs7071
21 күн бұрын
@@rachellandry3116 no haven't read that. Anyone whose had to tolerate a child whose been raised without discipline, boundaries or routine knows what anarchy looks and feels like.😳
Given the left wing bias, if the proud boys showed up anywhere at these protests, that is all we'd hear about. I'm surprised that Jordan is giving this woman the light of day.
@enidmarsh9142
21 күн бұрын
Only giving her 10 minutes, thank goodness.
No, they just are psychopaths.
I STAND WITH GOD
@sicsempertyrannishonk7197
21 күн бұрын
Uh huh... That's what the Muzzy's say.
@yoginasser305
21 күн бұрын
You're violating the first commandment.
@mickhahayeah
21 күн бұрын
Jews killed Christ. Oh well guess I am going to jail now.
@gregoryunderwood4121
21 күн бұрын
Who's God, or whose concept of God?
@JD..........
21 күн бұрын
What "I"? It is only your ego.
This lady speaks in hypotheticals, Peterson speaks in reality, easy to see.
Encampments on our Universities. I'm sorry - that is bull crap! Let them encamp on your property.
@spracketskooch
21 күн бұрын
I get your point, but the universities aren't my property. If whoever owns the property is fine with it, then I can only shrug my shoulders. If it's a publicly funded university, then get them off the property immediately.
@robertsmith4681
21 күн бұрын
Providing material support to a named terror group is a serious crime, not a mere "peaceful protest" no matter where it occurs.
Psychopaths go where the power is...
I really enjoyed the lecture last night Jordan.
@vincelam1998
21 күн бұрын
Same!
@AnOntologicalOpponent
21 күн бұрын
@@vincelam1998 Sweet! 🙏
Ronnie seems to be wrestling with the errors of her reasoning. Great job letting her tangle herself up. That said, she helped me better understand the 'left'...I gather you have to empathize with victimhood. I've always understood that my life would be of my own making....work a plan to get where you decide to be and hope some government or leftist doesn't take it away.
We are equal. Determination, discipline, and personal responsibility are the winds that separate the wheat from the chaff.
I've spent a lot of time on the streets, and traveling (mostly hitchhiking) around the USA. I've met a lot of self-professed anarchists and people who generally are anti-social and anti-American. A lot of them participated in the BLM riots and other acts of social unrest, such as Antifa chicanery. I can tell you - based upon my experience - beyond a shadow of a doubt that such protests are a magnet for sociopathic and psychopathic individuals. People only there to engage in vandalism, violence and looting. They get off on the chaos and destruction. And it's a hell of a lot more people than 1 in 20.
its amazing to hear intelligent people say stupid things. Such as the protests were peaceful, then go on the nonsense about "social justice" and equalities. Or the nonsense about what is happening in Gaza is horrible... Israel is conducting this war with kid gloves.
“We need to having a caring society, not just an orderly society” I think what she’s trying to say is we need a Christian society which gets us back to square one when we were thriving. The left is just fighting the commitment of what that entails.
A great example of how ideological self-righteousness makes a highly intelligent woman draw conclusions that are wrong at the core, while basically ending up speaking in circles. Circles of nonsense.
They were peacefully breaking the law.
That is a good and respectful debate. Thank you. More of that please.
This video has been infiltrated by a psychopath.😂❤🎉😢😮😅😊
THIS WOMEN IS STILLHIGH FROM FUMES SHE INHALED IN THE 60'S
When I went to college, we weren't allowed to protest like this with tents everywhere. Why should they be? Every new generation seems softer, more entitled, and more demanding. It could just be the protest flavor of the month, as some of them might not fully understand why they're protesting, though they might grasp the basics.
@jeremybrimmer1990
21 күн бұрын
Boomers.
@Amanitaland
21 күн бұрын
Are you kidding me have you looked at college protests in the 60s and 70s for Vietnam. They were nuts. People have been protesting since the dawn of civilization.
@Donnie-sh9md
21 күн бұрын
@@Amanitaland i meant recently, i thought we were passed this
I have my doubts on whether they achieve anything at all. Infiltrated or not. But if arrest documents etc shows that one third is from out of town then...
@zoso73
21 күн бұрын
I don't think they achieved much either, but I do think the volume and duration of the pro-Hamas protests in the US and Canada shows how deeply neo-Marxism has taken root in our countries.
@baswenmakers6846
21 күн бұрын
They accomplished that the socialist establishments of all our countries are losing Jewish and young voters . It is real fun to see.
This woman is feckless.
Infiltrated? How about Initiated by and facilitated by.
“Columbia encampments were very very calm” someone prepped her to use that word specifically and not use the word protest or protestors.
She complains about all the wealth being at the top? It's liberal policies that are fostering the dissolution of the Middle Class. The wealthiest people are largely leftists. A strong Middle Class is the greatest check on that because it not only spreads power over a greater population better but it also provides greater opportunity for upward mobility for the poorest among us. A strong Middle Class also tends to be more Conservative. So they create a situation in which the Middle Class shrinks and blames it all on some kind of imaginary "rich people" who are largely conservative (as their target audience for this propaganda might believe) where they are actually more predisposed to liberalism the more the Middle Class shrinks.
Left is not looking for a strong leader? Give me a break!
Alexandre del Valle, professor of Geopolitics and International Relations, has said, In mainland Europe they have long identified a connection between the two separate groups. They call it Islamo-Leftism, with potential links to terrorism. French Minister of Education Jean-Michel Blanquer has declared, Islamo-Leftism wreaks havoc in French Universities and can lead to the worst, evoking intellectual complicities with terrorism. French Minister of Higher Education, Frederique Vidal has stated, Islamo-Leftism not only pollutes Universities but the whole of society.
Minding to observe who is helped, and who is harmed is redundant if that observation only occurs after a particular group has been deemed 'acceptable' to harm.
The proud boys came haha when things go haywire blame the proud boys.
competitive victimhood - love it
As soon as this lady began to disparage police tactics, and blame the OTHER side while simultaneously claiming her side was peaceful despite clear video evidence to the contrary, I almost laughed out loud 😂 This lady should be on MSM she acts just like them
My parents thought the ‘60’s riots and protests were disgusting. She seems to think they were normal and widely approved.
It’s incredible he picked someone so inarticulate to represent the opposing side. Many have a clear understanding of why they’re there: divest from a country they believe to be immoral.
I do not like this lady. God bless you Dr.Peterson ❤
@Earthad23
21 күн бұрын
You hate in others what you despise in yourself.
@elsieoneill6181
21 күн бұрын
@@Earthad23 Nobody said anything about hate except you.
@Earthad23
21 күн бұрын
@@elsieoneill6181 OK we don’t like in others we don’t like in ourselves.
@elsieoneill6181
21 күн бұрын
@@Earthad23 nice egoism you have there
@Earthad23
21 күн бұрын
@@elsieoneill6181 I’m just stating a fact, there’s a reason why you don’t like someone and you should pay attention to it.
Thank you Mr. Peterson. You keep doing incredible job on enlightenment of Northern Americans.
Finally…some intelligent, interesting, intellectual, Civil discussions.