Great Wall had an assembly plant in Bulgaria for a few years. It was recently closed, but the still have dealerships and import Havals.

it could be fun to do a PHEV test in norway once in a while. I would watch it

@truckernelson1186

Жыл бұрын

That would be really boring. Not many PHEV's does +150km on electric. I'm guessing this was a special case scenario.

Actually a very decent proposition for transitioning countries. Rather than phev's with like 6kwh batteries, why even bother plugging in.

@anydaynow01

Жыл бұрын

It depends on the car really, 6 kWh will actually give some usable range daily driving to a subcompact with a I-3 range extender, on an SUV or even a crossover, not so much.

@ConstantijnKool

Жыл бұрын

I plug my golf gte in every day and I almost drive 95% of the time on the tiny 5,5kwh battery only for vacation I use the fosil tank

@Gazer75

Жыл бұрын

Depends on use. My dad has a Golf GTE and never use fuel in day to day use. But can go on longer trips without needing the charging stops. It can also tow 1500kg which is not going to happen on a similar size pure EV. Hes also keeping the petrol tank almost empty. Pretty sure every time I've been in that car the darn low fuel warning light is on :)

Жыл бұрын

@@Gazer75 With the german EVs you can tow a lot. The problem is the maximum weight limit for a normal drivers license.

@Gazer75

Жыл бұрын

​@ They are in a different price class as well. EVs that can tow 1500kg are around 100k NOK (~10k €) more expensive. And yes, a problem is the combined 3.5t weight limit for a regular B class license. Here in Norway we can get a B license with code 96 that increases the combined max to 4250kg without needing a new drivers exam like for a BE. You only need to complete a 7 hour training course. Problem with B and B96 is that its the legal max weight of the trailer that is counted, not the current weight. With BE that changes so you can actually tow a trailer with a legal max weight of 2t with a car that can only tow 1.5t as long as the current weight of it is below 1.5t. Basically not loading it fully.

Efficiency at 90 is really good, even your test in summer with model x raven was at 177, Mercedes was at 195 and e-tron over 200 so yeah pretty good for a fossil … Model Y is of course better but stil, amazing … Please test some big battery PHEV when back in Norway

One year ago I sold my Ioniq phev and bought an ev which I love but we have just been on a 750mile round trip and I experienced problems with broken chargers, queuing for chargers and some people getting irate and trying to queue jump and this is when I missed my Phev.

This car is great and this kind of PHEV i would buy for sure because its best of both world. You have around 150km of electric range for every day use, and when you want to go on longer trip you can just put it in hybrid mode have great fuel consumption and do not worry about changing. We need more PHEV like this and not like the current ones with 10-15kwh battery and only AC charging.

@supamario3055

Жыл бұрын

100%

@ME-cb1vw

Жыл бұрын

at least here in germany this kind of electric range in a phev is outstanding. Most of them are not built to drive pure electric for a reasonable distance.

@anydaynow01

Жыл бұрын

Totally agreed, in order for a vehicle to qualify as a real PHEV it should have at least 80 - 100 km of range on a bad day like VW and GM rate their vehicles (not NEDC standard). Plus not all areas of the world has Norway's excellent charging network, even in North America it can be hit or miss once you get too far from a city, well unless you have a Tesla. So home / work charging a PHEV is the best solution if the electric range covers most of their driving, it also prevents battery hoarding so more commutes are carbon free.

@Likr666

Жыл бұрын

15 kWh would be enough for most comuters. When I considered driving electric 2019 I was looking for an Ioniq classic PHEV. About 60 Km electric range would cover more than 90% of my everyday driving. But in a PHEV you have a double complex system. A fossil engine and an electric motor. You have a small fuel tank and a small battery. More stuff, that can break down,... It looks to me like the worst of both sides. The car is not optimized for running fossil and it's not optimized for going electric. So I am absolutely fine with the decision to go pure electric.

@bartvanhoof6278

Жыл бұрын

Like others have said ... PHEV is also the worst of both worlds ... fast battery degradation (due to small battery), high maintenance costs, you still pollute, etc. ... so you are buying an expensive car (PHEV costs more than ICE) with expensive running costs. You are better off: 1. Buying a decent BEV ... and just adapting for that one long trip a year (what I do). 2. Continue with your current ICE ... what is the drive to continuously buy new cars every few years? If you live out in the middle of nowhere I'm sure a 10+ yr old ICE will do just as well as a brand spanking new one. No one is forcing anyone to buy BEVs only ... in all countries, everyone can still buy ICE cars ... and if you really want to, just wait until the last moment before new-BEV regulation kicks in and buy an ICE then to be able to stick around for as long as possible. Even in Norway, you can still buy an ICE vehicle. This kind of transition vehicle (a PHEV) is just bad whichever way you want to spin it.

This is pretty good car for Ukraine. We often do not have electricity now, and fossil engine will give you opportunity at least have a transport, also if this car has vehicle to load protocol then it can be used as a power source during blackout. Hope it will be available in our market for affordable price.

@ataksnajpera

Жыл бұрын

I doubt that ukrainians can afford an electric car in near future. Vast majority of ukraininians buy cheap used cars from Poland.

@azera55555

Жыл бұрын

Hope the war ends for you all soon, stay safe 🙏

@georgefenrirbitadze4757

Жыл бұрын

Ukrainians will be busy next 20-30 years paying for military Dept from USA and rr-building their infrastructure, and that's optimistic prediction. So unless you are zelensky or his daddy kolomoisky u have lower chance to afford it

@sergiyscherban219

Жыл бұрын

@@georgefenrirbitadze4757 I recommend You to read about land lease procedure. Moreover near 200 billions of US dollars have been already arrested on accounts that corresponds to russian federation and will be transferred to Ukraine as compensation for part of all damage that russian federation did.

@georgefenrirbitadze4757

Жыл бұрын

@@sergiyscherban219 ahahahh nice joke man made me jiggle......wait wait wait, you actually are serious? You rly believe that? Oh now that's hilarious, be careful not to overdose with copium, damage on Ukraine already is 1 trillion dollars and that's just infrastructure damage, if we include territories that Ukraine lost (size of Italy) with it's natural resources it costs 3-5 trillion. Now also add 16 million people who left Ukraine or joined Russia (7 million) and their tax prayer economy, 200 billion is nothing even if your wet dream happens

Actually GWM is just start selling a better version of PHEV SUV in Germany, it's called Wey coffee 01, a premium brand from GWM. It's 42KWh

In Europe we would call the Haval H6 a 'modern classic', because of its huge sales success. There are two cars that drove mobility for the common people in China. In 3rd tier cities and rural areas this was the Wuling Hongguang (not the Mini EV, but the older fossil MPV). This is the best-selling Chinese name plate of all time. Lately it has dropped in the sales charts, but they still make about 300.000 per year. In the more developed and affluent 1st tier cities and coastal areas, this role was taken by the Haval H6. The car in the video is actually the 3rd generation of the name plate. All generations combined, it's probably (confident but not completely sure) the second best selling Chinese name plate of all time. Last year and this year, the car landscape is changing quickly, but the H6 is usually still in the sales top 10.

@gadgetgasspoll2923

Жыл бұрын

The no. 1 best selling SUV in china right now is BYD Song

@krulit8930

Жыл бұрын

NO You're wrong

@leobreevoort9151

Жыл бұрын

Yes, this year the BYD Song Plus is the best-selling SUV in China, distancing Tesla Model Y, Haval H6 and Changan CS75 Plus. But I was talking cumulative sales here. The Hongguang sold over 5 million times and the Haval H6 around 4 million times over its entire lifespan.

@theolich4384

Жыл бұрын

@@gadgetgasspoll2923 Shows how wild the growth BYD has seen recently. No one would have believed it 1 year ago...

For those who dont like PHEV and say that they are "the worst of both worlds", are clearly not from Australia. With such a large area and poor/non-existent charging network, relying purely on electric is too great a problem. Having electric range for daily driving (majority use case) and a petrol "range extender" for long trips in any direction (not just where there are limited chargers), becomes the best of both worlds. There are also many roads/tracks/trails in Australia that are not suitable for 2WD, so this would be perfect if it had an AWD option.

@dootu

Жыл бұрын

I agree, there's much stupid talk when it comes to hybrids/phevs from some of the media. Much of the Outback is run from petrol stations that only have access to electricity via diesel generators, good luck getting enough power there to charge electric vehicles. Phevs/Hybrids will have a places as a part of the mix for some time to come.

@Razwer

Жыл бұрын

I'm a PHEV owner/driver and honestly I agree with the statement that it's the worst of both, from a general perspective. That being said, it doesn't mean a PHEV doesn't have it's use cases. Especially for the (energy) transition periods (which can take several decades in some places) this is a very useful or maybe even must-have technology. However a PHEV being useful doesn't mean it's good as a generic solution. Especially most PHEV's currently out there are pretty terrible regarding range. This car is kind of a breath of fresh air in the PHEV space.

@supamario3055

Жыл бұрын

@@Razwer Technically, yes it is the worst of both worlds. But currently, for the situation that I have described, it is the most practical solution. In a perfect world, we would be driving with a small battery that recharges super fast and there are super fast charging inductive pads everywhere.

@bartvanhoof6278

Жыл бұрын

Just think ... most people are currently driving an ICE vehicle no? So that means they would need to buy that PHEV ... in your scenario someone might live out in no man's land when it comes to charging infrastructure ... so any charging would have to be done at home anyway. So ... why spend money on a new car when their current (ICE) car probably works just fine? It is not as if a PHEV is a cheap option regarding new cars, they are actually quite expensive (to buy and then maintain). Example: In my country ... Volvo XC40 gasoline from €39,100; PHEV from €53,700, BEV from €47,108 ... wtf am I going to buy a PHEV with those base prices!? If I'd want a new car I'd get the base gasoline model ... the €14,000 I can save is a lot of fuel ... and I can run the ol' ICE jallopy for many, many more kms (including maintenance) before I burn through 53k. I don't like PHEV because it means I'd have to spend money to buy a new car ... no one is forcing me to buy a BEV ... in this uncertain market I'm not buying anything ... and I don't feel the need to get a new car every couple of years.

@supamario3055

Жыл бұрын

@@bartvanhoof6278 The point is, we are meant to be reducing combusting fossil fuels. A battery can be recharged using plentiful solar (many countries). So yes, most charging is done at home and most travel is around home. But for the rest of remote travel without charging infrastructure, there is still a reliance on fossil fuel. But at least this is better than 100% reliance for now. As infrastructure increases, reliance will decrease.

Excelent math explanation!!! Thank you!!

This brand making big inroads to Australian market

hybrid is part of the solution imo, with (expensive) liquid sustainable fuel as a backup as it is very scarce/inefficient to produce. Today it's mostly dino juice of course, and we see how valuable electricity is in Europe these days, so there will be some time until we can "waste" large amounts of electricity on synthetic fuel. Who knows, a major battery breakthrough could render the whole hybrid concept moot for cars anyway. But I like the concept of this Haval H6 in today's world, with a medium sized battery pack that can fast charge and a rather small and efficient ICE.

For a lot of the population in the UK at the moment, this car makes a lot of sense. The charging network is quite poor here, so a hybrid fossil engine is a relief!

@trippplefive

Жыл бұрын

isn’t the uk banning all ice cars in 2030? car manufacturers are probably thinking that it’s not even worth it to spend r and d funds on making plugin hybrids with decent battery only range.

@sargfowler9603

Жыл бұрын

@@trippplefive ICE cars yes, not hybrids

I will like to see GLE hybrid tested. Might buy one

@rafaelerismann6477

Жыл бұрын

I have already test driven the GLE hybrid. Although it is quite expensive, it is a wonderful piece of tech. It would be great to hear Björns opinion about that car.

@krugerdave

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking of the GLE as well; this seems like the poor man's GLE PHEV, with the similar size battery and the CCS charging. This would probably be popular in Germany, but I do have to wonder why you'd want to bother schlepping the fossil engine around all of the time when you'd almost never use it. Most PHEVs you still need to get an oil change at regular intervals; in this car (just like the GLE) it's entirely plausible that you could be required to get an oil change having never used the engine since the last one!

I think it's ideal for people who can charge at home, and only occasionally do long trips... 160km range is going to cover most daily drives, especially for someone living in Bangkok driving around Bangkok in EV only mode (keeping down the pollution), and you don't have to rely on the public charging network if you don't want to on occasional trips further afield. In the long run, hybrids are a dead-end, but at the moment, while the public charging infrastructure isn't up to the standard in Norway, this would be useful for someone like me where most of the time it's short shopping trips which could be EV only, but with an occasional long trip 2-3 times a year. And, having seen some regular H6s in parking lots at Central, it's a pretty enough car, although that one is quite a bit more expensive than their regular hybrid version.

In South Africa we have had Haval for a few years. Very popular as its great value for money. We have just receive the hybrid model. Hoping we get the PHEV soon.

I own Haval H6 normal gas-powered 4WD version in Chile, it's an excellent car for a it's price, didn't get the normal hybrid because it was only 2WD and I live in a snowy area. According to the company they're going to start selling de H6 PHEV with AWD in my country later this year, I am excited to make the transition

Bjorn-❤ How about Testing a Mitsubishi PEV, Plugin & Petrol, we have them in Australia 🎉Sometimes Charging stations are out of order! Thanks

I had Great Wall cars for several years. Quite good cars

The Haval has become very popular in South Africa. It is in the top 10 seller list. It offers value for money and good fit and finish. Unfortunately only the HEV version (self charging, what a joke) hybrid is available yet, but the plug in will definitely be an option I would consider.

Ahhhh. That's my dream car !! 150km phev and fast charging.Hope other manufactures follow .

I think was worthwhile test that’s a decent Battery 🔋 for the PHEV, actually the Haval brand is quite big in South Africa 🇿🇦 but with Fossils and recently HEV, if Haval brings this PHEV might consider it with pricing and decent EV range.

3:20 it might be in Europe soon. Haval is in Bulgaria for many years now and this model is probably coming too next year. Also in 2021 Haval opened European HQ with focus on R&D, sales and management.

@sharoylalani

5 ай бұрын

But it didn't come in phev right?

Brazil launch a unique H6, with a GT apparence. it is a PHEV4 AWD with a 1.5 turbo engine and two electric motors. Brazil GT has a 34Kwh battery that allows 170 km of autonomy in electric mode and 762 Nm Max Engine Torque.

Hei bjørn, er det lenge til vi får en oppdatering på millenium falcon? Det samme skjedde i dag med min P85+

Also sold in Moldova, but only HEV models for now. Waiting for PHEV to switch 🤘

Ya volvo xc 60 is about the same and now has 18 kw battery but no ccs…nice of you to test this one …there are some places in USA where PHEV is best choice also…Volvo is good In winter too.

Жыл бұрын

The new Volvos phevs look great, they even have one pedal driving. I just wish they offered a faster charging option than the measly 3.7kW.

I have Kia Sportage with 13.8kWh and my record is 65km on battery at 10C. Charge speed is 7.8kW at type 2. I wish it was a bit bigger battery but it’s OK. If Kia Niro PHEV had this size battery it would be perfect.

I wonder if they would manufacture something similar but using LPG?

Hi, thank for the video!!! anybody knows if this SUV supports bidirectional charging? like the nissan leaft , vehicle to grid , v2x

Beautiful car👍

Hi, can you recommend this car for Bangkok? If i csn charge only on public stations (cant charge at my condo)?

Naval are quite popular here in Australia

PHEV SUVs are popular in northern China. One reason is to solve the problem of insufficient battery life in winter.

Haval H6 Hybrid Lux, in Australia & Asia, 1.5L Petrol + Electric front drive, its OK for the price, 😭Front Seats could be better for thigh support for taller people

it has larger battery and faster charging then my e-Golf :D ... it's probably good for people who regularly drive (very) long distance (above 300 km) or for ones who regularly drive outside their country, so don't have to worry about charging infra ..

@Razwer

Жыл бұрын

e-Golf was a marketing trap above anything else. It's a grocery getter in a Golf 7 skin.

@ari197

Жыл бұрын

@@Razwer hmm .. I agree that eGolf was half baked .. it's probably even a way of redemption for VW after dieselgate .. but I'd argue that it's perfect day-to-day car for most people and it's more then adequate for trip up to 400 KMs ..

@Razwer

Жыл бұрын

@@ari197 given the limited battery capacity and slow charging capability it's imo limited to a grocery getter. Of course it depends per situation, but I've seen several people try using it as a daily commuter for work and that was quite problematic.

@ari197

Жыл бұрын

@@Razwer yea .. like all things, it'll depends on your individual situation .. the eGolf is my only car for the last 4 years .. and last summer I took it for a road trip across europe .. I wouldn't say it's painless but with proper planning it's certainly doable ..

Nice car Bjorn😊

Does anyone recommend Chevy Volt / Opel Ampera plug in hybrid? Maybe in a few years when price goes down more. By that time an EV might be worth it instead

I have a Toyota Venza hybrid but would like to get a PHEV. I think it would be better than straight EV for convenience on longer trips.

Hi bro, how you set up the white colour screen. It looks like a Tesla display. I saw in other video, the display looks dark. I like the white colour display

There are some nice german phevs waiting for you to test them back in norway :) And quite a lot to choose from.

Get yourself into a Zeekr 001 if at all possible while over there - want to see what u think because thats on my list if ever comes to UK

Nice review. Can you pl comment of its acceleration in pure EV mode vis a vis in hybrid mode (engine + electric). How does it perform in each?

Bra! För jag funderar på att köpa Lexus NX 450+ 🤗

There is a need and purpose for PHEVs also in the future. Imagine pulling a horse trailer with an electric car in the winter. Will you have any range left? Also the PHEVs are cheaper than electric cars, at least in Sweden where the bonus have now vanished. For instance the Chinese ORA CAT with the smallest battery starts at 414000 sek in Sweden. That is 38000 euro for a small car with a summer range of 300km.

I m kinda surprised to see this brand in Thailand, I don't see them much around lol but with PHEV actually getting close to 200km of pure EV range makes a lot more sense now... even in China, I hear the charging stations for long road trips are always packed or some chargers will malfunction and so on... it actually does make more sense to have a longer range PHEV where people can travel with pure EV in cities and actually use gas/hybrid for long travels👍

Very nice for Australian distances…

Usefull range, but only if you cant find a fast charage network on your trip

this is like the BMW I3 with the range extender.. :D

Nice car

In some markets with low Supercharging density, hybrids with CCS plug could be a good compromise. In US, in states like North Dakota, some users decided finally to exchange their Tesla with an ICE Diesel. But a CCS hybrid could be a good solution and better than an Hybrid with only L2 slow charging.

Dude this phev is not available anywhere in the world now 😮 I can't find it in any country 😢

I used to drive a Mitsubishi Outlander phev and it drove around 220 kWh/km

Ist this car based on the WEY Coffee 01 ? That what’s the car is called at least in Germany

@clasqm

Жыл бұрын

Wey and Haval are both GWM brands, so I suppose there is some relationship.

@visionmodernclassics3062

Жыл бұрын

@@clasqm thx for the feedback! I also looks very similar at the interior! I hope Björn will also consider PHEVs…especially Mercedes offers amazing PHEV powertrains and nobody is reporting about it…S Class Plug-In W223, C class Plug-In W206 both have e range > 100 km DC Charging Speed > 60 kW

I would buy this car if sold in Italy

Now we just need Volvo XC60 T8 with this battery 😅

Haval is an unknown brand to most in the west, but for quite a while it was the best selling compact SUV model in the Chinese market, right up until the last couple of years when BYD blew up and raced ahead with its popular PHEV, the Song Plus, which is flying off dealer lots to the tune of 60k units PER MONTH currently. The Song has smaller EV only range, but is also quite a bit cheaper, which accounts for how popular it is. Also I wonder if BYD will make RHD version of its brand new just launched PHEV Crossover, the Frigate 07, which is basically the H6, but slightly nicer in every way.

great car, pity it's not coming to Australia.

@1984417rock

Жыл бұрын

I think they are already selling in Australia! Just search Haval H6 PHEV on youtube you will see videos of Australian car media tested it

@user-tw1de9ll2t

Жыл бұрын

@@1984417rock no, only the hybrid version is available right now, the phev however is not coming to Australia yet, guess time will tell.

Parrelel or Seriel Hybrid ?

@bjornnyland

Жыл бұрын

Parallell

What is the price over there?

@bjornnyland

Жыл бұрын

1.8 MB

I guessed that the 9.8 kWh per 100 km indication was totally wrong!

Where's the spare tire?

NEDC is a joke standard. Even WLTP is far from realistic in range. That being said, 44kw battery in a PHEV is pretty good. The biggest downside of a PHEV is double the trouble regarding (potential) problems. All the potential ICE problems, all the potential EV problems and on top of that potential integration problems of ICE + EV tech. Written by a PHEV owner/driver ;)

@anydaynow01

Жыл бұрын

I always saw it as having a built in backup, if something goes wrong with the battery the ICE will back it up and vice versa, at least until you can get it serviced.

@Razwer

Жыл бұрын

@@anydaynow01 so that all depends on the type of problem you will be facing. Especially over time it can become a costly endeavor to own/drive a PHEV. My 6 year old PHEV is for sale now as I'm awaiting delivery of my new EV. Not because I dislike my current vehicle but because I'm afraid of high servicing costs in the short term future.

my issue with PHEVs is that almost all of them are ICE cars with an electric drivetrain strapped on. When instead, they should be engineered as EVs (with 100-150km range) + an onboard generator working at regimes of max efficiency

Whats the price of this car?

@bjornnyland

Жыл бұрын

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One of the problems with the Haval PHEV is its rather high price. I agree with other posters that until charging networks are fully built out, the PHEV is a great alternative. Too bad Bjorn did not test the NAV........is it still in Thai only? That's a deal breaker for me.

@bjornnyland

Жыл бұрын

Navigation on the Chinese cars are all the same system. And it's bad.

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In rural Norway/EU cars like this would have it’s mission. With pore charging infrastructure (Like northen Norway) and battery tech still kind of expensive, many would stick to their fossils. Hybrids with a decent electric range gives the possibility to do all your local drives fully electric, and the fossil drive train will give the range for longer trips. Of course when batteries get cheaper so most people can afford an EV with a decent range, and a better charging network this will change. Biggest issue is do you install chargers for almost no customers, or do you wait until you have a decent customer base. With very few charging options many will skip the EV wave. Until this is sorted hybrids will have it’s mission.

Thanks for the test. It makes sense in Thailand, but hybrids are a waste of time here in Europe in my opinion, it's too late. But for that country it's still an good option.

10:41 9.8 kwh/100km doesn't look right to me...

2:18 are you sure.. Its not some kind of weapon??? :O

This is what the Mitsubishi phev outlander have been.

The front battery looks like a fuse box. 12V battery at the back looks like a pain to remove when needed.

@user-jh6vt8vx4v

Жыл бұрын

It is too crowded in the front fot hybrids. My highlander hybrid put the 12V in the back. While its ICE siblings is in the front.

PHEV with this much battery is sure the way to go, but it is an expensive 1-2 years. Because in 1-2 years you realize that you can drive pure electric better. It happened to me 5 years ago with a Mitsu outlander.

@ME-cb1vw

Жыл бұрын

from an environmental standpoint the fossil engine does not disappear. Even after 10 years it is still burning fuel because of the pure range most phev have.

For someone like me who live and work in inner city area this car is a dream, sadly this brand is not available yet in my country. Also I hope this gwm brand can compete with other japanese and korean brand in terms of efficiency and technology, unlike other chinese brand in my country, like wulling, they sell hybrid cars but the efficiency and reliability is again just a gimmick, it doesn’t served the purpose it attended to do, their technology is not up to par with the japanese and korean brand.

@Scrap-press

Жыл бұрын

Check out the Wey Coffee 01. It is also from GWM, but they're going to sell them in Europe starting in 2023.

GWM HAVAL H6 PHEV novo teste de autonomia circuito urbano parte 28 (WATCH THIS VIDEO)

Bjørn I'd be interested in battery degradation tests of PHEVs. I assume they degrade pretty fast because they're more driven down to 0% and recharged to 100% than BEV. I know this isn't particularly your field of interest, but it could serve as a backup when no new bevs hit the market.

@michaelnilsson8400

Жыл бұрын

I agree! I have a Golf Gte from 2020 that is supposed to deliver 7kWh according to WV specs, but it only delivers 5,1… That said, I have also used the fossil engine quite a lot to charge the battery (to avoid cold start the day after on the way to the charging point).

@Gazer75

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelnilsson8400 My dads GTE from like 2015 had its battery replaced like two years ago for free. Not sure why... There was some battery life/condition inspection and it got replaced after that. It was still capable of doing 40+ km in summer. My experience is that the battery is never at 0%. The car will normally fire up the engine when there is 5km or so left and run in hybrid. My dad never charges the battery using the charge mode. I've tested it once to see consumption, and it was over 1L/10km during this. Only downside is that the GTE refuses to run in pure EV mode when temps drops down to -5 to -10C.

@volkhen0

Жыл бұрын

In my Kia Sportage it will switch to ICE at 16%. Regen works at 100% battery so there must be some buffer at the 100%.

@garynaylor

Жыл бұрын

@Scrappress I have a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (2014 model) which shipped with a 12 kWh battery. I am just about to hit 150,000 miles (of which I have driven 110,000 of those miles in just over 5 years). On Car Scanner app, when new, it shows 38 Ah capacity and the ICE kicked in at about 10Ah. For that, you get about 25 gentle miles. Now, CarScanner gives me 25 Ah capacity and the ICE kicks in at about 7Ah and I get about 18 gentle miles on the battery alone. When the battery was newer, I was finding that at cruise speed, you got about 1 mile on ICE with about 0.7 mile pure EV. Now, that EV range has dropped to about 0.5 mile per 1 mile of ICE. So I'd say degradation is not too severe.

@Scrap-press

Жыл бұрын

​@@garynaylor Ok thanks for providing these stats. I think it would be nice to have also a database for PHEV and not only BEV degradation.

Hybrids are great,yet production is steep. You have 2 car propulsion in one car and more things can go wrong.

bmw i3 had that years ago ;)

Price? 💰

@bjornnyland

Жыл бұрын

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@The_Observer72

Жыл бұрын

@@bjornnyland Wow, at least 300 KB to much 🤑

7:40 - "carrying the fossil for no reason". The gauge saying 671km range on fossil is the reason. How much extra battery weight would it need to carry to take it that far? Probably quite a bit more than the weight of that fossil and quite a bit more damaging to make/recycle.

@bjornnyland

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Imagine how good the range will be on pure fossil...

@siraff4461

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@@bjornnyland The keyword is pragmatism. This can do everything a large battery ev can do day to day then once on a long run it has massive range and quick refilling. Even some of the best ev's - lets take a Model X for example - can't get close to that range or refil time. They also use close to three times the battery which is then mostly being dragged around as weight for no reason most of the time. Which is less destructive to the environment?

In your Tesla Model Y 1000 km drive, that car consumed 202 kW/km, but you said it was quite efficient. This Haval got 192 kW/km, then you said it’s less efficient. You told us that Tesla could do 150-160 kW/km, but that’s not happen in your Tesla Model Y episode. Please enlighten us. Thank you.

@bjornnyland

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In this test I drove at 90 km/h. Tesla in 1000 km challenge drove at 120-140 km/h...

@zenpro88

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@@bjornnyland I see. Thank you for the clarification. Love your videos. Cheers!

Russians would say ''Что ты хавал'' :D

I only had problems with chinese cars. They look good and are more cheap, but the quality is poor, especially after a few years, you spend more time at the mechanics, than on the road. I will never buy a chinese car again. I will only drive Kia, Toyota or a european brand.

It's bad enough having Tesla track your every move, but a Chinese brand? It's like Tik Tok... do you want the Chinese gov't to access to your information?

So much waste of space when you put fossil engine in this car... i can t see anyting else. Put 34kwh more battery in this car and this is it ! And you will have a beautiful frunk instead of an useless engine in the front. Hybride is OK but phev is non sense.

@nicolozak

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Even hybrid is no sense nowadays

Lets just try to admit one important thing: Ccs fast charging is NOT working as good as filling up peterol. One day it probably will, but as it is today it is not even a competition (due to so many factors).

A Hybrid, really?!? Hope it was the last Hybrid for this channel 😅 Nice car but an unusable Hybrid. Hope there is an electric version too.

@MartinzW

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Agreed. But it was interesting seeing a PHEV with such huge battery. This is far more realistic "transition" vehicle for conservative buyers than many other PHEVs out there. Though what I always say - don't worry about those fearing transition, their time will come as more EVs are being bought and infrastructure is developed.

@benedictuswinner3995

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its still useable tho 160km for city use

@basedw

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@@benedictuswinner3995 that was 160km at 90kmh. In city where you'd drive way slower it'd get better range too. This makes sense for many people.

@anydaynow01

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@@basedw Yep totally agreed 160 km of what seemed to be mostly highway driving is really good, not to mention the charging is pretty good for a PHEV if someone needs to top off while running errands for some reason during the day. For a lot of places where the charging infrastructure is nonexistent or meh at best but the owner can charge at home or work this would be perfect.

No hybrids please. Hate the complicated tech. Hybrids also carries the downsides of both EVs and ICEs. So, no no ..! 😊

That s bad car?!