Has WWE Turned Off 1.4 BILLION People By Releasing JINDER MAHAL?
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Vince Russo, Bin Hamin and Stevie Richards discuss WWE's questionable choice to release former World Champion Jinder Mahal!
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It didn't hurt them when they let Khali go and he was genuinely Indian. No reason to expect anyone over there will care about Jinder.
@MOBSquadGaming
Ай бұрын
Im indian I care about jinder. Who the hell are you to say that 😂
@user-kf7cg2fm6f
Ай бұрын
That's because people have a 2 sec. Attention span.
@ProjectLDV
Ай бұрын
@@MOBSquadGaminghe’s talking about in general, not goobers in a minority so small it has no impact.
@Tumorcoach
Ай бұрын
@@MOBSquadGamingwho are you to say you speak for the nation?
@reggiepathak9684
18 күн бұрын
jinder is a midcard guy but he was useable but that tag team was big strong and athletic. Why did they get let go?
This SmackDown sucked! The draft was garbage. A few minutes into the show and you'll know everything you should and shouldn't expect from the "HHH Era" of WWE. My all excitement for the product during the road to mania, however forced that was, is now gone. To think there are real people that actually think HHH is some kind of creative genius 😂
@zeromagnum2811
Ай бұрын
the booking for storylines and matches is better. But things like the draft have always been not that good. There is only so much you could ever do with it. Move champions around. Its been over done. ultimately they should drop the draft and just have the gms trade people when they need or want to move someone to the other show. They have been doing drafts since 2002 and the format is over done to the point there is nothing they can do that hasnt already been done 3 times before at least.
@alexpolanco7885
Ай бұрын
@@zeromagnum2811 false, the 2005 draft was iconic.
@zeromagnum2811
Ай бұрын
@@alexpolanco7885 i made that comment late into the night. Always was not the word i meant to use. What i was meaning to say was that it is tired now. The first few years of it 2002 - like 2007 were all fine. After that it varied from ok to meh. But now its a tired gimmick because they have done about everything you can do with a draft format and would just be recycling past used storylines. Only thing they could do new is shorten it and make it just for nxt call ups and main roster talent trades.
Yuvraj Singh (fka Jinder Mahal) could EASILY debut in AEW and begin a program that has him joining Jarrett's goofy stable...only to be the reason that they break up, with Jeff Jarrett and Jay Lethal going their separate ways after Yuvraj uses Satnam to destroy Jarrett...while Yuvraj Singh becomes the new heel leader of the stable, alongside Satnam Singh and Sonjay Dutt...and this would allow Jeff Jarrett to potentially step away before returning as the General Manager of Dynamite or Collision...as well as allowing Jay Lethal to fly solo and become a proper contender for singles gold. It could also be a good revenge/revival storyline if Jay Lethal began a program with Yuvraj Singh and finally turned baby face. I'd love to see him remind everyone how good of a promo he is and maybe do some storytelling meanwhile to help legitimize his lengthy career as a former world champion while putting over how great that Yuvraj is (sticking it to WWE for being dumb enough to let him go).
@mikhailabdurrachman2443
Ай бұрын
That's good shid pal 😁
Most Indians that watch wrestling don't care about Jinder. He's nowhere near Khali in terms of being over with Indian audience. The ridiculously high viewership for WWE here in India doesn't translate to the business aspect like it does in the US. The TV deal in WWE's case here works very differently than in America. People here aren't going to spend money on things like WWE network, their expensive merchandise and all that. The "high viewership" thing is a myth. Having said that, Jinder was just unfortunate. He could've been an awesome heel without the stereotypical foreign character. But I guess perhaps the WWE management in the "HHH Era" are more in love with the Garganos, the Ricochets and the McDonaghs than potential larger than life characters.
@regularperson4106
Ай бұрын
He was my favorite heel, love his feud with randy orton, when great khali helped jinder mahal win in the punjabi prison match.
@nellsun2521
Ай бұрын
I remember seeing Bret Hart visiting (I think) India, in the mid '90s in a documentary and they loved him. All the kids flocked round him like was a superhero. I'm guessing most Indians aren't gonna get behind Jinder just cos he's Indian. Although I do agree with the guys in the vid ^ Jinder has a great unique look which seems to have been wasted recently.
@thefourfourfour9512
Ай бұрын
Indians? You mean hindus? Hindustan... Indians arent from the sub continent
Jinder is Canadian.
@OsAbliNgin911
Ай бұрын
They could have done a Kofi Kingston. Pretend he is from another country when he is really not.
@paulcarpenter7844
Ай бұрын
Thy did
Dave Meltzer reported that Jinder was pissed when his release papers said "thank you, come again" instead of "good luck in your future endeavours"😮😮
P 0rn and revealing material is illegal in India, so the mass audience over there watches WWE for the Women's Division and the "show" they put on.
@KuruptYunggotti
Ай бұрын
100% right. Many Indian men watch women's wrestling for the sec appeal
@freedomisslavery6840
Ай бұрын
@@KuruptYunggotti gross creepos
@OsAbliNgin911
Ай бұрын
Rich Middle Eastern men looking for women who want a Sugar Daddy.
@Br0130
Ай бұрын
The fuck are you people waffling about😂😂😂
Shanky was let go last year. Also Mansore and Ali. Veer, Sanga, and Jinder were released this year. Indian World Order getting hindered.
From India via bro he's Canadian
@casualtalk6512
Ай бұрын
Ethnic indian. Canadian by nationalilty. So hes Indian Canadian.
@OsAbliNgin911
Ай бұрын
@@casualtalk6512 Exactly what I was thinking.
@OsAbliNgin911
Ай бұрын
He could have been a pureblood Indian in Kayfabe. If Kofi Kingston could to do it, then Jinder could do it, and make it seem believable.
@KoolKumasi
Ай бұрын
@@OsAbliNgin911 Kofi was a faking Jamaican 😆, Jinder will be alright
🤣🤣😂😂Russo called DIY - DUI, that was a shoot!!
Nobody brings up the facts when Jinder was wwe champion smackdown had the lowest ratings. Vince put the title on him and he failed that simple.
I haven’t watched wrestling in years and at this point, I’d say nobody needs to watch it because these podcasts and things like this that talk about wrestling are way more entertaining, and interesting than the actual sport itself.
I know you won’t respond to this but what’s up with the cardinals jersey? What player is that. Just curious cause I’m a cards fan myself.
Bro, when I heard the news bro, I couldn't believe it bro. I called up my bro and told him bro, did you hear the news bro? He responded, "brrrooooo, no way bro!" WWE is wild bro. It sure is bro, it sure is. #Brosbeforehoes!
If it worked for Gunther, they could have definitely done the same with Jinder Mahal.
It’s incredibly hard for foreign-born wrestlers to get over in WWE. Most American cities just chant “USA” at these guys when they’re busting their ass in the ring. WWE tried to push jinder Ali Veer etc but its hard to get the American audience to invest or buy merch of people with Hindu/Muslim sounding names. Even guys like Gunther or Rusev (previously) have struggled to get over despite being highly successful champions.
Indian population has always loved Roman way more than Jinder.
@sooryaN2607
Ай бұрын
Absolutely wrong judgement If they wre giving a important storyline like how they did few years back with randy and jinder, we could have support him as well
@pilot8220
Ай бұрын
@@sooryaN2607No, it's right judge ent, Jinder sucked Indians didn't like or support him, it was Roman
@js.3157
Ай бұрын
@@sooryaN2607 Yeah, they could’ve used Jinder a lot better.
@Cratossama
Ай бұрын
He’s not there either 😂
@xxtravdamanxx
Ай бұрын
Roman isn't Indian wtf
Triple h wants to fill the main roster with his boring nxt black and gold roster and slowly getting rid people who actually look like stars.
@annec2923
Ай бұрын
I'm just waiting for hhh to start a midget wrestling. Draft didn't change anything except keep boring wrestlers
@Rschr101
Ай бұрын
Hhh needs to go bro
@zeromagnum2811
Ай бұрын
lol. ok. If Jinder was such a star, then why did literally everyone lol when he won the wwe title. Because he was a jobber one week and next week won the title because vince suddenly decided he wanted ratings to increase in india. They didn't. So AJ won the title from him after a few months. Jinder never truly got over. He was just kinda there. As for the comment about looking like stars. lol look at AEW's roster before making such a comment. majority of wrestlers are not steroided jacked guys anymore.
@randomkillerx2157
Ай бұрын
@@zeromagnum2811that’s the problem with WWE, Jinder was a jobber for his whole career up to that point, and doing comedy skits with 3MB. One day he returns after being fired the first time and a few weeks later he is World Champion, without any story or buildup, people weren’t going to buy that. I blame booking on his championship run. The guy if booked right could be a big deal, and the way they booked Gunther has proven that.
@zeromagnum2811
Ай бұрын
@@randomkillerx2157 i would agree that he could have been. But Vince did that back then and it killed any chance for him to be taken as anything but the jobber vince hot shit pushed to the title to try and pop numbers in india. And didn't. To prove the point when they booked Jinder to face Rollins for the title even Tony Khan the nerd mark bashed and took shots at Jinder on twitter making a joke of him being in Raw's main event for the title. There was no way to undo the perception of his character in WWE. They tried to get him over in NXT by sending him there with Veer and Sanga. and they tried to restart him a few times on Raw and SD and every time it didnt work. Vince's booking killed him from any chance of getting over and being taken seriously. He would have to leave WWE get over with a different gimmick and go back to ever be anything there because of Vince. Gunther got lucky that by the time he was in a run vince immediately lost power. Because right before Vince lost power gunther's ic title reign was going to end weeks after it began to Nakamura because Vince was gonna bury Gunther for being a NXT HHH guy. Just like he did most of the called up NXT talent over the years. But prior to Summerslam 2022 HHH took over and Gunther retained and held it until mania 40. If Vince wanted someone over he would try to get them over. But he was petty and would bury anyone at a whim. I watched long enough to be able to read when he was burying someone or not. Vince tried tp push Jinder but he did it in a way that made the crowd dislike him for the wrong reasons just like he made them hate Roman for being the chosen corporate guy. Roman recovered from it by coming up with his own heel gimmick and Vince let him do it because he was Roman. Jinder had no way to recover after that forced title run. It was forever burned onto his character in WWE that he was a jobber champion and viewed as a guy that shouldn't have had the belt. Even if he did deserve to have the run the perception is he didnt. Because it was bad booking and not done right. He could have been a good heel champion if it was built up and done right. But because it wasnt it was too late. And with things as fickle as most wrestling fans and especially the marks. That is a characters death sentence in pro wrestling.
I agree. Such a waste. Jinder Mahal could have been a very serious heel vs. Coady. I can't understand this and maybe we'll never know.
Sanga had something going on for himself in NXT for a little while. That Rollins Jinder match earlier this year had the right drama. Can see the point of not getting over to the extent as hoped but they could have filled the same role as Nakamura.
nooo he is canadian , not Indian ...but i still loved his home coming entrance in canada , it was awesome
Indians don't care bout Jinder n Veer... I'm Indian .... nobody here even knows they exist apart from us hardcore fans... Sanga is the well known one, cz he's a famous actor, nd has a very long acting career nd makes a lot of money from movies, the release was good for him, now he can focus on something with much better return of investment .
Can't believe they fired Jinder (again). I figured they were going to push him again after Mania.
@mackdantelle
Ай бұрын
Push him for what?!
@JMAC____
Ай бұрын
@@mackdantellebecause he can talk and work and looks like a pro wrestler But hey let’s push tiny DX marks and alpha academy comedy acts
Shanky was released ages ago
I was a Jinder Mahal fan! I enjoyed his run.
My bet is it was probably a budget cut. Got to imagine he had a pretty big salary and if they weren't doing much with him .... They cut them loose for now. I'm sure he'll be back
Ginder was mid and his gimmick was boring af.
mr russo jinder had a problem, the problem was everyone new why he became wwe champion after losing practically if not every match he was in, wwe wanted the india market and jinder got jacked up at the right time so he became champion, there's one little problem with that people don't need to see a person of the same country,gender etc to like a wrestling or any other show
@marchie2
Ай бұрын
LA Knight was loosing every match too.....The point is, Jinder looks like he shouldn't be losing any matches
@MarcelHeldt1983
Ай бұрын
@@marchie2So did Big Show and Kane and they lost anyway. Why? Because this is staged wrestling and there were better alternatives. Hey, Big Show is one of the worst Royal Rumble performers of all time. By your definition we should just put a scale in the middle of the ring and let the heavier person win. Great, I take Viscera over Rey Mysterio any day.
@emanuelfer456
Ай бұрын
@@MarcelHeldt1983 its why wwe's viewership kept going down since 2001
Someone blew Vinces clipboard spot today on the podcast
Guess what? People in Ireland watched WWE well before Becky Lynch came along! WWE is watched worldwide irrespective of whether there are wrestlers from that country performing in the company or not.
Bin is thinking of Mustafa Ali, who was in WWE but was let go.
Everyone WWE puts the belt on does everything they ask. They're not putting the top title on guys like Shawn Michaels anymore who sabotage other guys in the ring and lose their smile instead of lose a match at Wrestlemania. The ultimate measuring stick is are they are a draw and making the company money. WWE's core market is the US, and they make far more money off the US. Jinder was not a draw as champion in the US.
Vince Russo is a Legend 🤍
Jinder is a canadian guy with an indian roots.
I remember when Russo said wwe dropped the ball on jinder years ago
JINDERS POTENTIAL IS CRAZY!! He should have beat Rollins goin into mainia
Doesn't Matter!! WWE has been popular in India from Last 30 yrs. You ask any guy on the street they will say I am Roman fan or John Cena fan or Cody Rhodes or Triple H or Undertaker fan and many more. No one expected or was interested here in Jinder to be WWE champion.
Stevie Night Heat, was one of the best Gimmicks, EVER!!!
The hypnotized mesmerized masses don't give a damn about what's not in front of their face.
They love roman, much more then jinder. They should do Roman vs Rock in NMS Stadium in India
Triple H doesn't know what he's doing
@davidjsaul
Ай бұрын
You spelled "Tony Khan" wrong 😂
@TheebX92
Ай бұрын
@@davidjsaul Triple H is worse than Khan
@casualtalk6512
Ай бұрын
@@davidjsaul both suck.
@annec2923
Ай бұрын
Hhh is clueless
@Rschr101
Ай бұрын
Just thank God he cant wrestle anymore.
Go ahead and compare merch sales for Finn vs Jinder. Who's from CANADA
The people saying "isn't he Canadian?" Yeah and Piper was from America, so what?
@b.romero6846
Ай бұрын
Piper was Canadian
Hhh has been burying jinder, styles and knight since he took the book.
Bring Bollywood Boys back!
Oh ya sure Like all of India watch wwe 😂
It’s a swerve, bhaee.
He's Canadian
Usually I'd say that no one really cares about Jinder so if they want to cut expenses and fire him it's a fair game. But in this case it's a bit apsurd. Last 2 times he was on TV he apsolutely smashed it. The segment with The Rock was awesome and the whole thing with the title match against Seth was awesome. For a second he got us convinced (to some extent) that he maybe might have a chance of winning the title just to stick it to Tony Khan. Firing him roght after he's done those 2 angles pretty much perfectly is a bit ridiculous.
There are too many smaller wrestlers today. What happened to the so-called "new era"? We want monsters.
TNA please, sign Jinder Mahal before someone else snatches him and create an all Indian wrestler stable, it's a golden opportunity for a heel group to draw major heat, they would be over so quick, throw in a championship match and you got gold, please, no other company has thought about it before, it's a totally new Idea and with the right people it would skyrocket in popularity, just think of the possibilities, it's money, it's gold, it's ratings, you already have indian talent being underused, put that talent to work, jump on it, only in TNA would such a group work. Please. 🙏 🙏 🙏
It turned me the fuck off for sure. Jinder is awesome
I'm Indian and i I don't watch wwe for jinder neither for khali None of them are even my favorites I do feel jinder should have been used more and should have been given a push after his wwe title reign but it more or would not affect wwe viewrship in India AT ALL THERE WOULD'NT BE A SINGLE LESS VIEWER AFTER LETTING JINDER GO NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT
The Wuhan Labs gimmick is wild😭😂
WWE creative never knew the Indian audience. They thought by simply making him the champion he would be loved by everyone because of his indian heritage, but they presented him as a heel and a weak coward joke. Indians like their heroes a lot, and it backfired. Not once did they give him any meaningful storylines he was always the stereotypical foreign heel. Jinder's fault was listening to them and not fighting for his character.
Nah brother not only does it not matter WWE has more actual Indian wrestlers in their system they can try get them to fall in love with
100 percent correct.
All the 3 indian wrestler that got released actually look like wrestlers compared to Triole H favourites like Gargano
Mustafa Ali would have been a better choice to get to the Indian market
hell yeah Matt Morgan
Isn't Jinder from Canada?
@OsAbliNgin911
Ай бұрын
It doesn't matter. He could have been Indian in Kayfabe.
No
Thank you for this. The WWE presented Jinder Mahal as a stereotypical foreign heel who gives anti-America promos when he debuted..... Years later during his promo with the Rock he was still the stereotypical foreign heel. Nothing really changed. His entire career was held back by the WWE creative forcing him to be within the limits, so his growth was hindered. I mean, believe it or not, even people who are not pure white American have different aspects to their personality you can play with. Even generally speaking it seems to be a lame trend to put wrestlers with foreign originals into this limited bracket, automatically making it tougher for them to really break through. Story and character development is everything. The rest follows. Jinder wasn't given much to play with. In short, he was let down by the WWE creative and then he is released. It's unfortunate for Jinder. He was often booked as a jobber too. That's not his fault either. I know Indian fans who were like "Why is he always booked at a stereotypical foreign heel. Give him something else for gods sake!"
Jinder is Canadian, tho😂
When jinder was wwe champion. Nobody in india cared and wwe ratings in india did not increase. Which was the reason vince gave him the title to start with. So no it didnt.
I effin loved Jinder ... I feel he gave WWE the red carpet treatment to the India audience and they did that to him ...that's fucked up WWE
@zeromagnum2811
Ай бұрын
When Jinder had the title. Nobody in india cared and ratings there did not increase. So you really don't know what you are talking about.
Jinder is my Canadian boy, may he find success elsewhere.
They already have the Indian market without having a Indian star, this is a common misconception
Good point. People didnt like when he became a fake champion. Easy heel. Guesd they think its real. Lol.
Lmao, Russo has that Vince McMahon mindset. Trying to push a guy to the moon, just because they are big with a good physique. russo also trying to push a guy primarily based on his nationality/ethnicity, lmao. If thats the mindset you wanna use to push people and push your product, then go for it, but youre gonna see your product diminish. Using that reasoning, why not get a great physique wrestler, with great statue, that is pure Indian, instead of primarily canadian and then indian. Stevie has the right mindset. Its as he said, you gotta play the game and more. Then russo goes back on his word and goes with "it is creatives fault after all!" Like bruh, russo, you were creative for a long time with so much great talent to use, and flopped a lot.. blaming yourself xD
#DonthinderJinder
From the Wu Han labratories 😂
IN MY OPINION WWE IS A RACIST COMPANY. THEY EVEN TRY TO FAT SHAM SHAMUS!!! HE SHOWED THEM.
Russo wearing a Cardinals jersey. Thought he was a New York guy
@moaziz23
Ай бұрын
probably laundry day…dude looks like he needs a shower too
@axelfoley2061
Ай бұрын
@@moaziz23 😂 indeed
People care way too much what country wrestlers come from. I've been watching wrestling for 30 years and I never had a favorite wrestler that was from Germany. Put on a good match and/or be an interesting character and people will like you. Jinder couldn't do any of that. I'm glad he's gone. WWE has too many male wrestlers anyway.
Actually the Indian people likes the American wrestlers more than Jinder 😜
I actually liked Jinder…
India is not a monolithic nation, it has 450 different linguistic groups - being Indian descent does not mean he is popular in his country of origin. Khali is popular in India because he 7'4, light skinned and he votes for the Modi party (the current ruling party of India) - Jinder is darker skinned and does not vote in India because he is Canadian citizen. Political affiliation, perceived socio-economic status (level of power) and looks play a huge role in India.
@Kalbuir66
Ай бұрын
That's just it...India IS NOT his country of Origin. He's from Canada.
No, because he's Canadian
They released Jinder and keep a smaller guy like Finn Balor. Come on, it's ridiculous. Jinder Mahall should be in the WWE, period.
@zeromagnum2811
Ай бұрын
Size isnt everything. Jinder was never really over as a talent outside of a small group of mark fans that liked him. That happens with any wrestler even lower card guys like sandow. But big picture jinder was never over and more than once the company tried getting him over. He got the title, he got put in that match with Rollins, they moved him to NXT to try and get him over. ect. Its not like they just randomly fired him without trying to do something with him.
3MB is what killed his career
Jinder has not been on wwe tv and it has affected them
No one knows who Jinder is in America either bro.
Bhaee.
Jinder is wrestling
Having Roman gone will hurt the Indian audience.
Why didnt they just have Jinder watch the Iron Sheik and Muhammad Hassan segments of the past and learn how to be a hated a heel . If he had incorporated bits and pieces of those two ,he would have been a super hated heel for sure.
Vince, to be fair… Campa is 5’11, yet you bash him when the man who trained you is actually 5’7 lol
Its a sin letting that beard go. Bith Veer and Sanga! Giants and super handsome. And Jinder?? I hope they rehire them. I just don't get it.
HHH Era = Ho Ho Ho era...lol piece of crap...just boycott WWE
As an indian, im telling you indian people do not care for jinder mahal. They prefer roman reigns, lesnar, cena, rock, randy etc. You do not get to speak on this subject when you know 0 about the indian fanbase, i love you vince, but you've never been more wrong.
1.4 billion with 6 tv sets between all of them.... I'm sure WWE will be okay
This makes no sense😂😂
Jinder mahal the best ❤
Wow...literally none of this is true whatsoever.
Did Vince Russo turn 60 million Italians off from Wrestling?
I THINK WWE GOT RID OF HIM BECAUSE THEY CANT USE HIM IN THE STORYLINE THAT WOULD GET OVER BECAUSE OF THE PC CULTURE. Politically correctness would not allow the common sense storyline of anti American dominating the WWE so they have no use for him.
No one in India cares about Jinder, but prefer Roman Reigns instead.
Who cares about them if they’re can’t draw bye bye u go
They want aew to overpay