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@TheArtzyAnimalTV

5 ай бұрын

2 is me for a wish yes the thousand me the yes no the bad

@otakumarcus

5 ай бұрын

I was waiting in anticipation for this review!!!

@lawrup

5 ай бұрын

First

@riffraff7942

5 ай бұрын

Real shame Disney’s 100th anniversary is like this

@cian.o

5 ай бұрын

Bland main character. Maybe it should've been about Mickey instead.

Oddly, this movie seems to ironically showcase how Disney has changed over 100 years from a cutting-edge studio into a corporate sweat-shop, milking its legacy and image for $$.

@jolly_39

5 ай бұрын

Disney has always been a bit of a corporate sweat shop, Disney himself was infamous for his poor treatment of workers and underming the talent and hard work of the animators working under him. Disney got lucky that strict censorship laws killed every animation studio that could possibly compete with him and Disney was the only potential employer for many talented artists during that time. I feel like the higher ups at Disney think they still live in a world where Disney is the only studio with enough money and employees to create a feature length animated movie. Early animated Disney movies like Snowhite and Sleeping Beauty were impressive on the animation side but not so much on the story telling side. The scripts were basically standard stage adaptations of old and well-known fairy tales. It worked back than because animation was a novelty.

@sateleim

5 ай бұрын

period

@GaidenDS10

5 ай бұрын

It’s becoming a Dollar store movie outlet at this point. Soon enough Disney will become a Ghost Town.

@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent

5 ай бұрын

@@GaidenDS10 Or more than likely turn around and switch back to a more successful model.

@ThreadBareHope1234

5 ай бұрын

True. A superior way to revere past Disney works (or whatever) would have been to use old tropes and story templates, or prior knowledge of fairy tale/young male explorer stories to make a new interesting spin on the story similar to Enchanted. Not to say I am a fantastic writer, it's just an idea. If they like the Tangled animation and adorkable Anna characters, that's fine. Kids aren't getting tired of it yet. We need more films like Hercules or Treasure Planet, on god.

The fact that the little star guy was originally gonna be a whole dude who came from the stars themselves, AND he was gonna be the love interest? This story could've had so much. I love the idea of Asha being the daughter of the villain COUPLE, who goes against them to try and help her star magic soul mate. Wwaayyy more drama from that

@Dumbledoresarmy13

5 ай бұрын

Now that sounds like a fun movie. This and Elemental just gave off "generic product" vibes so hard in their trailers that I wasn't even interested in going to the theater and I'm the type of person who will go by myself to see an animated film if i have to. I'm excited to see animation from alternative sources popping up but it does hurt to have grown up in the Disney renaissance only to watch them lose their way.

@DoodleFoxxy

5 ай бұрын

@Dumbledoresarmy13 I'm more so disappointed that they've gotten lazy. Wish was supposed to be in 2D but Disney chose otherwise cause 2D animation is "too hard" That's so insulting to me. Disney was the pioneer in 2D animation. 2D animation was the reason Disney even made billions of dollars. It's what started them. So for them to complain about how it's "too hard" is just such a slap in the face. Especially for the fans who loved the Renaissance era

@nahson944

5 ай бұрын

​@@mmecharlotte please let us know when you write it!!! 😊

@TigirlakaLaserwolf6

5 ай бұрын

​@@DoodleFoxxyit's not 'too hard' 2D animation is unionized. 3D is (or was? I know over the summer there was some voting going on) not. So 2D animators actually have to get paid more than the bare minimum, so companies use 3d animation to avoid paying their workers as much as possible. Notice how often a small project is still 2D - if it was Too Hard they'd all be doing it in 3d

@DoodleFoxxy

5 ай бұрын

@@TigirlakaLaserwolf6 that's why I don't believe Disney when they complain about 2D. It requires a lot more skill and patience, so much skill that they know they'd have to pay a lot more. Disney has proven that they don't care about the craft, they just want their next big hit. It's all about quantity to them, not quality

The Princess and the frog tackled the ‘Wishing Star’ concept far better. Believe in the magic of the world and You wish with all your heart on that star, but you’ve got to put in the work to help make that wish come true. Actually, now that I think about it, The Princess and the frog would have been a much better fit to celebrate 100years of Disney.

@erickpoorbaugh6728

5 ай бұрын

It also had an actual "classic villain" who's a genuine contender for most terrifying Disney villain.

@igfrcd

5 ай бұрын

I've been saying this since the movie came out. Not only did PatF had an engaging protagonist, cohesive story, a menacing villain, but it did all that while staying true to the studio's legacy making references when needed but being its own unique story, and also having the courage to be a 2D movie

@kyaos_Meteor

4 ай бұрын

The music was so good and it was refreshing to see the prince get his ass humbled and actually put in effort

@insulttothehumanrace3807

4 ай бұрын

Not to mention having a great message - especially needed these days - that while it is good to have ambitions and the willingness to work, life isn't just about financial success or accomplishments. Princess and the Frog really is an underrated movie.

@GreatMewtwo

4 ай бұрын

Princess and the Frog may not have been the 100th anniversary tribute it deserved to be, but it was quite the bow-out for hand-drawn Disney animation.

It’s so disappointing that they didn’t go with the original ideas they scrapped, I mean.. who wouldn’t want a villain power couple and a love story between a magical star prince and Asha???

@jiderdanso2727

5 ай бұрын

I would have watched that. Where did you hear of this

@pixel_razbataz

5 ай бұрын

@@jiderdanso2727 tiktok, they have vids of the previous concepts

@Thunderwolf4

4 ай бұрын

@@jiderdanso2727 In the concept art book of Wish. Originally the star was going to be Asha's love interest and had a more human-like design. And the Queen was also going to be in on the villainous plot with the King.

@jiderdanso2727

4 ай бұрын

@@Thunderwolf4 danke

@THEDubbleHelixx

3 ай бұрын

Maybe in 100 years when copyright expires, we'll get to see it properly made 🙃

Look, unapologetically evil villains are my absolute favorite. But this story? About a person that can literally grant wishes to make people happy? This villain would have KILLED as the jaded hero that becomes a villain. A backstory of his inability to keep everyone happy and his discovery that magic will never be enough, no matter how good his magic is? That would have offered something new and compelling.

@millennium7909

5 ай бұрын

Honestly that would have been so good, I rarely see Heroes turned Villains as a use for plot especially in Disney (I think, I am not really sure if there are actually some out there) and I think this concept would have been actually amazing, alongside with other things Saber mentioned it could have absolutely worked! And shows that the characters have something to show and tell to the audience

@blakksheep736

5 ай бұрын

Real hurts that apparently a bumch of random internet users in a YT comment section can come up with better movie ideas than the biggest media company on earth.

@alicerivierre

5 ай бұрын

@@blakksheep736 oh, sick burn for Disney! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

@blakksheep736

5 ай бұрын

@@alicerivierre ☺️

@samanthacarpenter3336

5 ай бұрын

That would be great commentary on current human entitlement issues, and the burnout felt by those still dedicated to doing the right things but, losing faith in humanity through constant showcases of greed. Learning when to Sacrifice, and renewing one’s faith in humanity would have been an important message in today’s society. But, Disney never takes risks anymore. So, that’s too touchy of a message for their worse than fanfic writers can handle.

Honestly, I think one of the real problems with Wish is that it doesn’t really do anything outside Disney’s comfort zone. You’ve got the the generic story, boring and formulaic villain, and the uninteresting main protagonist. Combined with the fact that it’s supposed to be the movie to celebrate Disney’s 100th birthday is so.. Sad.

@Khadi-C

5 ай бұрын

And yet, people were complaining about twist villains.

@geovanibenjamin8940

5 ай бұрын

@@Khadi-Cthose still suck

@p-__

5 ай бұрын

my farts are better than Saberspark and Saberfart’s farts 💨

@Skiyiphy

5 ай бұрын

@@p-__ 💀

@pablocasas5906

5 ай бұрын

I'd love to see Disney making something more similar to The Black Cauldron, Atlantis or Treasure Planet in CG. Don't of if they're capable of making something similar to Spider-Verse or Mutant Mayhem. Even Pixar tried something different with Lightyear, despite its flaws

Fun fact: Contrary to popular belief, the movie Wish is not directly named after the concept of longing for something, but after the e-commerce company, as a form of tribute to the quality of their products.

@lizxu322

4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Disney already had a movie where the message is to make you’re own dreams come true that starts with a black woman wishing on a star, and it actually stuck to that make it come true yourself theme without forgoing magic and love and all that stuff Disneys brand relys on.

@mali-cat

5 ай бұрын

Shhhh don't bring that film up. Disney will remake it and royally screw it up lol

@alicerivierre

5 ай бұрын

​@@mali-cator, dare I say it, maybe Disney will remake Wish too as a live action movie? LOL! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

@TedEhioghae

5 ай бұрын

@@mali-catIf they made Tiana a white red-head, it's fine.

@JanikLps

5 ай бұрын

​@@TedEhioghae and Moma Odie becomes an old asian dude? XD

@user-fx7mq9yl3p

5 ай бұрын

I bet you never call her white woman if she is white

Disney never disappoints when it comes to disappointment.

@daniapfel2825

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@ple8379

5 ай бұрын

Just like EA, Disney also has that skill to disappoint you again and again, just in time you thought, it couldn't ever get any worse, but you can always expect them to find a new low xD.

@jamessparkman6604

5 ай бұрын

@@ple8379 how about the Disney adaptation of Swan Lake? No, not the swan princess that one made by nest entertainment

@ple8379

5 ай бұрын

@@jamessparkman6604 I'd absolutely love to see it done by disney... Old Disney that is. When they were still making these wonderful animations, as 9-10 year old, I was waiting for the Swan Princess or The Pea Princess for instance, as the Grimm Brothers' tales was what I grew up with, and seeing those tales on a big screen was a wonderful feeling. Old Disney, that created all of these animated movies - I'd love to see some more, but this Disney doesn't exist anymore. Disney is now a shitty, political and greedy company. They'd rather continue milking existing franchises, changing them into live actions or making sequel after sequel for their newest animation movies. I'm not here for this. While I miss the old times, I had already moved on from Disney. I will still watch the animations, and I hope they won't take these classics away :(.

@PerpetualIyTired

5 ай бұрын

That’s wrong

You know what's sad. Shrek did a better job referencing Disney than a Disney Film did.

@daniapfel2825

5 ай бұрын

What’s this reference please ?

@alicerivierre

5 ай бұрын

Oh, sick burn! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

@TheRandomSandwiches

5 ай бұрын

​@@daniapfel2825All of the different fairy tales and the different jabs at the plots.

@mastertofu

5 ай бұрын

That's because Shrek understood its source material. Disney has shown for the last decade that they don't.

@doid4354

5 ай бұрын

Shrek is god-tier, modern disney doesn’t even stand a chance

Disney is no longer a film company. It is a toy company that dishes out $200 million commercials.

@b1njjj95

4 ай бұрын

Well said. Disney's magic died a long time ago.

@ZippyMcBeans

4 ай бұрын

​@@b1njjj95respectfully disagree for the sole reason that I think encanto hit really hard. other than that you're right. I'm fairly young and grew up with some of the newer releases, and I remember walking away from or even cringing at some movies, e.g. Raya or Ralph Breaks -my brain- the Internet. if your target audience can see how bad your product is, then stop making crap like this. it really sucks that a studio that used to be so amazing makes me want to vomit now

@b1njjj95

4 ай бұрын

@@ZippyMcBeans Just because Encanto is an amazing movie, doesn't mean Disney's magic didn't die. It seems like Disney is still somewhat capable of making really good 3D movies, but they are still too focused on cheap live action remakes of their old classics and they simply forgot that they are known for their stunning animation. When Disney stops playing games and starts focusing on making original 3D animated movies that have heart and soul like Trolls Band Together, then I will change my opinion entirely.

@ZippyMcBeans

4 ай бұрын

@@b1njjj95 valid, Disney's definitely lost its magic. I despise (almost) everything the studio's doing now. and- I'm trying to sound nice and non-sarcastic when I say this- is trolls band together that good? I've mostly written off the franchise and didn't have super high hopes for TBT, but if it's actually got heart and soul, I'll give it a try :)

@b1njjj95

4 ай бұрын

@@ZippyMcBeans I really enjoyed it! I saw it on opening night and I was blown away. It takes a lot for a movie to blow me away, but I immediately had to tell my friend after the movie ended how much I enjoyed it. I think it outshines its predecessor Trolls World Tour, because Trolls Band Together focuses on the importance of family and friendship, and it added new layers to Branch's character. The humour has definitely caught up with the audience as well, considering a lot of kids grew up with the Trolls franchise and they are now teens and adults. There were a lot of innuendos and funny adult jokes that had me laughing so hard in the theatre. The writers definitely cracked the code with this one and I personally think it's worth watching. And don't even get me started on the strong voice cast and the catchy songs. 😁

Saber, did you notice the end credits had a character from each Disney animated film? Except it DIDN’T because not only did they skip over most of the films if the 1940s, but they also skipped Black Cauldron and both Rescuers movies (and all sequels besides Fantasia 2000. So they actively excluded history in their retrospective.

@johnh.mcsaxx3637

21 күн бұрын

Then again, they've always pretended Black Cauldron didn't exist. Disney would rather induct Blue Sky's movies into the Disney canon before they acknowledge Black Cauldron.

Asha’s personality doesn’t match her design. She looks young but her long dress and hair makes her look kinda regal and seem like a more mature character. Like, I could definitely visualise her being friendly but on the calmer side, the kind of girl that does her homework on time and doesn’t want to ruffle any feathers. Was pretty disappointed when Disney forced the shallow adorkable personality on her.

@MetaGiga

5 ай бұрын

I know!! She looks like she’d be perfect for a shy protagonist that needs to come out of her shell (a dynamic that Disney hasn’t done for female protagonists in years and would really be good for girls that *aren’t* “adorkable”)... It’s like the one who designed her had a vision for her, but she got lobotomized by the Disney girl formula. From her design, she seems like she would get easily overwhelmed by crowds and instead prefers to be on her own since it’s within her comfort zone. She doesn’t want to draw too much attention to herself and would probably want to give the spotlight to someone who she feels would deserve it, even when it’s her that does and thinks more than does. Someone who, as the story progresses, gets a stronger spine and learns to be more comfortable about “doing”. That kind of princess would represent a good amount of girls out there that deal with feeling overwhelmed by crowds and are too scared to break out of their shells! Always having a princess that represents one type of girl leaves out the ones that are the opposite...

@clydesdale1775

5 ай бұрын

I knew next to nothing about this movie other than a poster I saw on a wall, and I had assumed the same. Thought it was a nice change of pace, since as much as I love Mirabel from Encanto, the "adorkable quirky girl" puts me off (I was sick of it even when Moana came out). When I saw what her personality actually was, I was super disappointed and its genuinely the thing that put me off the film. It feels like it was Frankensteined onto her for no other reason but to be quirky. At least Mirabel made sense, she adapted to be more quirky to compensate for her lack of a talent. Like the other commenter said, I think Disney should make a protagonist that quiet, regal, serious type girls can relate to. The annoying dorks really just push away a large portion of the audience (or worse, makes kids think that they should change their personality to be more quirky in order to be liked, when really they should embrace who they are).

@YaanAden

5 ай бұрын

my farts are better than Saberspark and Saberfart’s farts 💨@@clydesdale1775

@MoonlightBrillance

5 ай бұрын

@@MetaGiga I can definitely see that! Her having this type of personality would also make her standing up against the King (who’s she also the apprentice of) a lot more compelling as it shows her growth, courage and gives her a proper character arc. It could have been really interesting for both the movie and as an addition to the Disney Princess lineup.

@MoonlightBrillance

5 ай бұрын

@@clydesdale1775 I agree. It’s also a real missed opportunity to make a modern princess who also could have been a call back to the older more poised Disney heroines, especially considering it was their 100th anniversary film. Speaking of annoying dorks, honestly I’m also just waiting for Disney to make a genuinely awkward Princess rather than the forced quirky haha so awks adorkable type. Give me a Princess who’s GENUINELY awkward or shy rather than a conventionally “relatable” manic pixie girl!There’s so many types of personalities they’ve yet to explore and hopefully the reception to this film will serve as a wake up call to allow for more creativity.

I think Disney clearly didn’t understand what people meant by wanting a cruel villain that won’t be redeemed. You can still make a compelling villain even if they’re cruel and unredeemable. You don’t have to rip every shot of a motive and backstory from them to do that. What sucks is they’ve literally done it before!! Scar and Jafar for example. Both cruel and unjust villains. But villains with MOTIVES!

@michaelstrong5383

5 ай бұрын

This is why I always believe that Disney would never make a villain like Frollo ever again.

@p-__

5 ай бұрын

My farts are better than Saberspark and Saberfart’s farts

@violet_rush

5 ай бұрын

@@TRUMAN_THE_TRUE_MAN_2 bot

@randomtinypotatocried

5 ай бұрын

@@michaelstrong5383Honestly same

@santicor3994

5 ай бұрын

Technically Jack Horner from Puss in Boots 2 hadn't a motive and a mostly successful backstory for a villain. Difference is, Jack was still compelling even if he was just cartoonishly evil.

Either: 1: Magnifico has a point and the plot is about how you need to work to make your wishes come true and the wishing star is dangeorus or 2: Evil couple who use wishes for something (to fuel magic maybe), Asha as the daughter and Star as a guy who is her love interest. Plot twist: it turns out Asha exists because the couple wished for a child. Or maybe even they need wish magic to sustain her existence!

In my opinion, the fatal mistake in this film was that Disney recruited inappropriate songwriters and composers for a film celebrating 100 years of Disney. Julia Michaels as the songwriter for this film is indeed talented, but she is new to writing songs for Disney and it seems like she doesn't really understand how to write songs in storytelling musical films like this one properly, so most of the songs aren't that impressive or memorable. For Disney's 100th anniversary film, Disney should have recruited songwriters and composers who had experience working at Disney before, such as Alan Menken, Randy Newman, Glenn Slater, The Lopezs, Lin Manuel Miranda, and at least they collaborated so that the songs would be impressive. They all have more experience writing songs to tell stories in films than Julia Michaels. It's a shame that a film that was supposed to be a celebration of Disney's 100th anniversary ended up like this 😢

@dionysos46

5 ай бұрын

Menken - Schwartz made the Disenchanted songs, without any contractual needs at the time. And it was more 100th anniversary of Disney than everything from Wish. Why it is not possible to WDAS nowadays?

@legoking6165

12 күн бұрын

Could you imagine what this movies soundtrack could've been like if Bon Jovi had been the one chosen to write the songs? His most recent song "Legendary" really slaps and I could easily see it fitting in a Disney adventure!

It's a shame a celebration of 100 years turned out to be so generic and forgetable, even with all it had going for it. Cool hybrid animation, bringing back true villains, Ariana DeBose, and they still screwed up. Those songs actually felt AI generated. They need to start taking risks and changing up their formula, or they'll be left in the dust. I know some of us want that, but while I dislike the corporation, I still want the studio to do great things again.

@kootunesscrewy

5 ай бұрын

It's sad because the only characters I liked from this movie are the main protagonist and that star. I don't know what to say but... this movie is the first animation disaster I've ever seen since... well... Velma Not cringe as that abomination, but it's still... another animation disappointment to end a year. I'm glad It's Time For The and Amazing Digital Circus came out to help save animation (even indie) a bit. Edit: It's weird that I didn't see this movie yet, but I'm already not feeling like watching it now.

@violet_rush

5 ай бұрын

still wanting a villian Disney princess 🙏 that could be revolutionary if they do it right

@novasoup

5 ай бұрын

@@Kittycute357whoa i had no idea saberspark changed his @

@p-__

5 ай бұрын

My farts are better than Saberspark and Saberfart’s farts 💨

@Oscar95451

5 ай бұрын

I am starting to hate Canada

The lesson is: let the creatives cook, keep the executives out.

@daniapfel2825

5 ай бұрын

Yeah

@MonicalovesMangoes

5 ай бұрын

More like: Let the artists and writers cook, and let the executives serve

@UnkownWonders

5 ай бұрын

​@@MonicalovesMangoesthey can't serve for shit tho

@nolandzur

5 ай бұрын

Unfortuanetly the human is a creature driven by money. After all they had to feed their family and the wine cant be reinvented otherwise there would'nt be sequels of an already ended succesful franchises.

@Midnightlunar10

5 ай бұрын

Honestly if Disney just left it up to writers, concept artists, and animators rather than higher-ups or corporate, they could have a movie that was as successful in financial gain as the FNAF movie. Or at least have done Nimona. They’ve shown a gay relationship in a sitcom, so I feel like that was just their fear of being put into controversy and corporate interference that made this a failing year.

Look at concept art. They had more planed, something better planed... How the entire story seems to be written by different people by the second half of the movie. They had even planned to have the queen evil! Yet nope. Executives and higher ups waltzed in, made their demands, and got their yes people to agree as the movie budget rose with nothing good seen from it. Then again... Rewrites, reshoot, and redrawing (they wanted 2d, then changed their mind to copying Spiderverse artwork without understanding it.) And the large budget is made due to the constant changes.

The king could have come from a very poor house, he grew up having to work super hard to stay honest and feed his family. One day he gains his power and upon seeing the village in similar circumstances as his, so he begins to grant everyones wishes. What was happy slowly decends chaos and causes the destruction of the village. King decides though life will be harder, he would limit the amount and the scope of the wishes granted.After meeting to hero of the story he realises he never granted his own wishes, something he can only do by using the evil green magic. He know hpw it could corrupt him but he beileves he can resist it. He succumbs and starts making more and more wishes for him self leading to the city and castle falling to ruin echoing his own early years. Did i just do a back story? DISNEY, HIRE ME!

I honestly feel like Dreamworks made a more Disney ish movie with Puss in Boots: the last wish, than actual Disney did with Wish. 1. The characters are from fairytales 2. While the story is not a direct adaptation of the Puss in Boots story, the plot still has the feel of a fairytale 3. Pure evil, irredeemable, over the top, villain that is still so much fun to watch 4. Art style that could fit into a story book 5. All the feels while watching 6. Heck they even have wishing upon a star!!!🌟

@DoodleThis

5 ай бұрын

Jack is literally one of my top favorite villains of all time!

@cameronbosch1213

5 ай бұрын

Bingo. Not to mention they also have a redeemed villain (in the form of Goldilocks and the Three Bears) and an unstoppable force (in the form of Death). Puss In Boots The Last Wish literally would have won best animated picture if the Del Toro Pinocchio movie wasn't released or didn't count as animation. (I mean, it technically does even though it's stop-motion, although it's very good as well.)

@ezelfrancisco1349

5 ай бұрын

Dreamworks became the very thing they swore to defeat

@cameronbosch1213

5 ай бұрын

@@ezelfrancisco1349 At least they still have some interesting films. 2022 was really good for them, even if 2023 wasn't as good, although it's very different than in 2022; nearly every theater in my county has closed...

@raistlinmajere7149

5 ай бұрын

I think Dreamworks is way better because they're not scared to tackle certain topics like death and abandonment in a way where Disney seems to skirt around those topics. I mean How to train your dragon did things I could never see Disney doing.

I don't remember where I heard it from, but someone described Wish as the first Disney "children's movie" rather than a family movie, and I think that speaks volumes.

@tannerp.4996

5 ай бұрын

Schaffrillas Productions

@noobmasterruben5167

5 ай бұрын

Shiny productions

@darianstarfrog

5 ай бұрын

That's doesn't make sense.. The were always for kids and adults

@noobmasterruben5167

5 ай бұрын

@darianstarfrog there's a difference between a childrens movie and a family movie. A lot of Illumination movies and popcorn movies like Sharkboy and Lavagirl do not have a mature theme only jokes and shenanigans. While family movies can be enjoyed by adults its why Encanto, Zootopia, Lilo and Stitch, and other classics are Family movies because they actually have messages

@ForForFro

5 ай бұрын

@@darianstarfrog Yes, but this one feels like it was made for childrens enjoyment only, Adults can see the flaws more obviously

Yeah, I sadly knew that Wish was not going to end up being good, simply by the idea of granting wishes without restrain with magic. It worked with Aladin, Ariel and Cindarella because every wish had limits and they were technically not lasting. (like the wealth you see Aladin getting to make his grand "prince" entrance disappears pretty quickly) Every single character has to WORK to get their wish granted somehow and some wishes can't be granted through magic, like love, death and life. Disney just dumped those important lessons all out the fcking window with Wish.

It's incredibly sad how the Fanart you've shown here has more visual identity than the actual movie

@winifredeghrudje9427

5 ай бұрын

Well technically it is concept art but yeah sad

@stevethepocket

2 ай бұрын

Concept art ALWAYS looks better than the finished product. It's easy to make something that looks like a painting when you don't have to make 130,000 of them. (That said, I wouldn't mind if Bob Iger had looked at _Klaus_ and said "OK, I guess we need to make all our movies look like that now.")

I just feel that Disney is always like: "No no no we don't make damsels in distress and lovestruck girls anymore. We make adorkable and inspiring CEO like female protagonist." Like switching one stereotype for another solves the problem. I don't mind a good love story or a damsel in distress as long as it's well written and it doesn't feel forced, the same way that an adorkable character can work if she isn't tripping all the time yet stumbling into the solutions of their problems.

@rozmyosotis

5 ай бұрын

i feel like we’ve had too many of the “clumsy, adorkable” characters lately. with the old disney princesses I could easily tell them all apart because their personalities were so different and unique from eachother

@sarahsander785

5 ай бұрын

@@rozmyosotis Not only that, but the art styles, too. Since the rise of 3D in Disney movies all characters look more or less the same. Plus acting more or less the same. Plus having more or less the same story. Plus even having more or less the same songs ...

@Snofey1

5 ай бұрын

I agree. I think that Jane from Tarzan is fine example how to write ”adorkable” damsel in distress character right. Jane is not a warrior and can’t even look after herself in a wild. I don’t see her even overly intelligent character. But she is still funny, interesting, charming , emotional and relatable. She is passionate and optimistic artist and I love her for it. That’s what I miss the most. Honest and real characters that don’t have to ”prove” anything. 💔

@variant7816

5 ай бұрын

I think the Mario Movie handled the damsel in distress trope pretty well. I liked how they made Peach into a self sufficient ruler and put Luigi into the "damsel in distress" role.

@darkcylander

5 ай бұрын

@@variant7816 you don't think Peach's badassary was a little pandering? I mean, she's a character that was essentially defined by getting rescued by Mario in like 99% of Mario games for over 30 years. she was based on Olive Oil from Popeye.

The thing is, the motivation for the king isn't even unreasonable. It's literally impossible to have everyone's wish granted. Imagine a child wishes they could go off and do their own thing but the parents wish that the kid would stay home and take up the family trade. What would happen?

@adamkalb1

5 ай бұрын

Do you think this "granting everyone's wish" plot line was done better or worse, back in Wonder Woman 1984?

@fasddfadfgasdgs

5 ай бұрын

Bruce almighty exists also.

@paperclip6377

5 ай бұрын

​@@adamkalb1its just as bad

@JohnPeacekeeper

5 ай бұрын

Appabbend mentioned Bruce Almighty showing exactly what happens when an omnipotent being just says "Yes" to every prayer/wish

@taigaaisaka6305

5 ай бұрын

That's basically proof of how horrible written this movie is. All Magnifico had to do when confronted by Ms Entitled was tell her "Okay, this dude wishes for their neighbor to die. This one for all the people he doesn't like to suffer. You want everyone to get their wish? Cool, here's a taste of how that would be" Done. Her literal WHOLE ARGUMENT completely destroyed in 5 seconds. But no, the movie bends Magnifico and everything in the movie, to make her look like she's right. Like, fk off.

Technically, Pocahontas is a "princess" if you apply that term broadly to mean "daughter (or daughter-in-law) of a hereditary ruler" regardless of the titles used by the particular culture. This was joked about in Moana. Regardless, Moana and Pocahontas are either princesses or the functional equivalent of princesses depending on how culture-specific you make the term.

Y'know what I find ironic? People wished for this. For years, people complained about obligatory love interests and completely evil villains. Now they're calling out for those things to return. I'm not saying that Disney didn't drop the ball on this one; but it does go to show that not all wishes should be granted.

@BReal92

5 ай бұрын

Both things can be true though. They should focus on writing an organic movie and telling an interesting story. They shouldn't add a love interest just because and they shouldn't remove them just because. Moana was literally a movie without a love interest and a not-evil villain and it was 100x better than this souless dogwater. And in my opinion while Frozen was better than Wish it was mid and Christoph adds nothing to the films

@Banana_Quarrel

5 ай бұрын

People are upset because its badly written

@FunFilmFare

5 ай бұрын

Kristoff added a lot to the first Frozen movie. He helped bring Anna to Elsa and made Anna realize what a good romantic relationship should be. But I agree he was useless in Frozen 2.

@BReal92

5 ай бұрын

@@FunFilmFare I feel like the movie wouldn't have been that different without him other than helping Anna which could've been done by a non-romantic interest with no diffence. I overall found him to be the weakest character unlike some older Disney romances like Jasmine and Aladdin, Nala and Simba and definitely Beauty and the Beast. I only found him ok as a character but didn't feel he enhanced the movie that much and yes he was just useless in Frozen 2. Frozen is still kind of mid though they writers pretty much admitted they were all over the place and weren't sure of their direction.

@Koranthus

5 ай бұрын

I agree, he really isn't a love interest for most of the movie even though as movie goers we see where its supposed to go, besides the trolls trying to hook them up, most of the movie was her getting elsa and not even really acknowledging him besides needing his help, which basically any stand-in character could do. They tried to do something with him in Frozen 2, i liked his boy band song but most of the movie was the same as 1 for them except they were together, he spends most of the movie being pensive and unsure and she basically ignores him unless she needs help.@@BReal92

What's utterly devastating is that the initial idea for Wish sounds perfect for a 100th anniversary film. Imagine how great it would be to have Star as a shapeshifter with a personality like a fusion between Peter Pan and the Genie, as Asha's love interest, and the king and queen as an evil couple. And all that in 2D! That could have been amazing, it was right there... and Disney didn't do it. Heck, I'm so disappointed they didn't I'm going to write my own musical movie using that premise because it needs to exist in some form.

@oliviamcnally7030

5 ай бұрын

I was hoping for something similar to that very idea! I don’t have much hope for Disney these days but I wanted something special for the 100th anniversary, it’s too important to let down!

@aquatiger8

5 ай бұрын

I am eagerly anticipating seeing people's own versions of Wish on KZread soon 😭 cuz the audience Disney is trying to pander to is making better stories than they do in COMMENT SECTIONS

@DeadmanInc336

5 ай бұрын

Not to mention King Magnifico and Queen Amaya having an evil sidekick cat.

@Kahtisemo

5 ай бұрын

@@aquatiger8 I was honestly just thinking about that earlier after watching a different review! I wrote my own in the comments then read so many other cool ideas that it makes me want to write my own rewrite of the plot. And I bet there would be lots of other fanfics fleshing out this world because it sorely needs it.

@UnkownWonders

5 ай бұрын

​@@DeadmanInc336at this point this just sounds like Jessie and James xD

The concept art for this movie looked AMAZING. I can’t believe they didn’t use any of it. We were ROBBED. Why does Disney hate love stories so much?

@angelbaby3342

5 ай бұрын

Thing is, I thought they CHANGED that perception with Elementals. Because that was a beautiful love story IMO. The only other love story that touched me like that (non-princess related) was Wall-E.

@margarinesnatcher

5 ай бұрын

They hate love stories because hetero love stories don't fit with THE MESSAGE and gay love stories aren't allowed in a lot of the markets they're aiming for, I honestly think it really is that simple.

@LT-jr3yb

5 ай бұрын

@@angelbaby3342Elemental was wholesome and cheesy which I loved! A feel good cheesy romance c:

@evage99

5 ай бұрын

@@angelbaby3342 Ha, Wall-E was thrown under the bus as a "stalker" movie; Eva rejected him repeatedly, and when she went inactive he forcibly dragged her around acting like he was being sweet.

@cupcakelolita7890

5 ай бұрын

​@@evage99really? Ive never seen anyone say that, it usually is highly praised

I feel like this plot synopses is what I imagine it would be like to be an animation intern or new director/writer at Disney: "I got the job! I'm going to work for the greatest animation studio of all time! I can't wait to make my masterpiece that I've planned for half my life!" "Cool idea. Edit this to get past the Chinese censors, use this soulless recycled animation that we've had for the past decade, and add more nostalgia bait. We're using this script rewrite that I ran through ChatGPT while I was on a herculean amount of coke last night. Also, add some merch fodder so I can make my bonus this year." "...What?..." "It's the 100th anniversary movie. Those smooth brained, mouse-eared stans will simp for it anyway. Seriously. We could animate a pile of dog vomit, have it scream racial slurs with Gilbert Gottfried's resurrected AI voice, and they'd still buy it."

@lizxu322

4 ай бұрын

Too true

@galaxyeyes1457

5 күн бұрын

Magnifico ended up being the perfect metaphor for Disney itself not all wishes get to come true…

I was sooo sure after the trailers that the movie will be about Asha having the same power as the king. And the king takes her as his heir, because their kingdom is not inherit trough bloodline but who borns with the same wish-granting power. And she have to learn magic from the king as crown pricess. The king already learned that not every wish can be granted, but Asha tries to grant every wish and it backfires on her and she have to learn it on the hard way and fix the wishes.

@jellyfishno.22

5 ай бұрын

That's actually a pretty good storyline

@kaliferguson2232

Ай бұрын

This is so good

Definitely do that “what’s ruining Disney” video. What made Disney so magical are all the artists and talented storytellers that worked behind it, not the stupid executives and higher ups that thinks they know better

@otakumarcus

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, Disney is already carving their tombstone at this point.

@cashewnuttel9054

5 ай бұрын

@@otakumarcus No, they are not. Disney has many more sources of income. I think that Disney are just using their movies and TV shows as a laboratory, and you as the test subject.

@jonahulichny9874

5 ай бұрын

@@cashewnuttel9054 what other sources of income. Everything ties back to the media they make in some way.

@V3ct0rH11

5 ай бұрын

​@@cashewnuttel9054they should stop running the tests then

@benjaminbierley2074

5 ай бұрын

Saying they have many sources of income is...kind of avoiding the issue. It needs to be understood that Disney has grown to be a behemoth yes, but its need for income has also grown, the danger it faces with diminishing returns is it WILL reach a point where it can't support itself anymore...and either the quality will go down even further, or pieces will have to be carved off the whole. Neither is a good look for what used to be a nearly bullet proof company.

I think making Asha king's daughter would make their dynamic so much more interesting. A daughter, princess that is supposed to follow her father legacy and powers, idolizing him all of her life, only to find he's not as selfless as she saw him, them having a conflict about what is right and wrong...

@mikaelaedwards9682

5 ай бұрын

Me too but Disney is like “fucking no! Think of the goddamn children!!!”

@daniapfel2825

5 ай бұрын

​@@mikaelaedwards9682Yeah

@daniapfel2825

5 ай бұрын

Good idea

@SunItzal

5 ай бұрын

I think Disney didn't go for that route because it would look too much like enchantment

@CapeSIX

5 ай бұрын

Ya but the kid would not be black and that’s the most important part of a woke movie

Her design actually falls flat, it’s just another rapunzel, Elsa body type, face type. When you see her concept designs you’ll understand we could’ve had something new!! And actually diverse and appealing!! Corporate shmucks really do ruin any creativity these artists have….

This was my main problem with the movie, too: What exactly do the people think they are getting out of this arrangement? Without this, no character motivations make sense & the king can't betray their trust because we don't know what that trust was based on.

@yonaryhernandez1833

5 ай бұрын

A metaphor for the lottery. Instead of money its dreams. You give and give for the slime Chace you eventually get lucky

@AceOfSevens

5 ай бұрын

@@yonaryhernandez1833 Then what are they upset about? He is granting a small number of wishes like they thought.

@TedEhioghae

5 ай бұрын

@@AceOfSevens Maybe because their wishes isn't given back to them.

I think it would have been better if Magnifico had the power to grant wishes but as a tradeoff, could never grant wishes for himself. Over time he grew envious of all the people whose wishes he granted, giving them good health and love and prosperity and stuff like that, meanwhile he's just the guy who grants wishes, and without that he feels he has nothing. So he cooks up some scheme to manipulate people's wishes for his own gain or something like that.

@SavagePassion666

5 ай бұрын

In one youtube comment you've literally come up with a more compelling plot while it probably took them months to hammer theirs out. You know marketing is in the corner just shooting interesting shit down left and right.

@egg_bun_

5 ай бұрын

Ooooooo I love it 😍

@riotkitty

5 ай бұрын

That is a super compelling idea, I like it. Instead of Asha basically feeling like she’s the villain half the time and Magnifico just flipping on a dime for no reason.

@nunyabusiness3652

5 ай бұрын

The fact a commentor managed to come up a better idea than whoever made the film itself. 😂😂

@annieandelsieofarendelle3294

5 ай бұрын

@@riotkittyYou can even have one of the main plot points being Asha helping people realize their dreams on their own which makes people realize they don't need King Magnifico to fulfill their wishes which sets off his downward spiral as less people come to him.

It's about time we get a brand-new studio founded by ex-disney employees. Seriously, things like this worked wonders in the past and I think it's prime time for it to happen now. They need a hard reboot so bad

@Spoonicks

5 ай бұрын

Ah you mean like Don Bluth movies and Dreamworks studios

@rachelfay9582

5 ай бұрын

If Don Bluth and DreamWorks did it, why can’t anyone else?

@weehoo_bananas

5 ай бұрын

The others mentioned Don Bluth and Dreamworks and I agree. Isn't it funny how Disney pretty much created their own competition via disgruntled workers?

@stephanos6128

5 ай бұрын

​@@rachelfay9582 it can get expensive, artists aren't already paid well, throw in the fact many people rather go for AI than hire an artist for instant content (an impossibility back in the 80s and 90s), and many people are currently on strike so they lost their jobs. throw in KZread is the biggest, most popular and therefore most viable video hosting website but the algorithm absolutely HATES animators and artists, throw in the video automatically being labelled for kids if it has any shred of vibrant color and the problems that arise when it's not actually for kids... these past few years has been rough for artists I think... though yes it'd be nice to see some of these people "go indie." would love to see a big indie scene like the way videgames get.

@MrZer093

5 ай бұрын

What’s funny is that every time a major former employee leaves to do their own thing, within a few years Disney suddenly gets massively better. Not long after Don Bluth left, we got Little Mermaid to kickstart their renaissance period. And Dreamworks coming in gave us gems like Emperor’s New Groove and Lilo and Stitch for at least a few years that are a return to form. But now they just seem like they’ve been resting on their laurels for over a decade since Frozen

It’d be interesting to see Asha steal a book and learn how to become a sorcerer herself. She could have a training montage and song (like Mulan) and even accidentally stumble across dark magic and struggle with feeling possessed by its powers. Eventually she’d learn how to handle her magic with the help of her friends (we have seven friends, we don’t need the star and goat too) and beat the king with her magic and community helping her.

I’ll always be mad about the changes made to this movie, especially considering that the villains were originally meant to be the king and queen as a power couple and the star was supposed to be a humanoid love interest for Asha

Everything _Wish_ tried to do, _Puss in Boots: The Last Wish_ did better: an old-fashioned evil villain, a funny animal sidekick, wishes coming true without need for magic, even a little romance (imagine _that_ in a Disney movie these days!). In fact, _Wish_ bears such striking similarity to _Puss in Boots 2_ (a magic star falls to earth and can grant wishes, told with a heavy Spanish flavor) that I can’t help but wonder if this is another instance of Disney and Dreamworks “taking inspiration” from each other. If so, it’s all too clear which studio executed the idea better. Anyone who wants to see _Wish_ should seriously just watch _Puss in Boots 2_ instead; and if you’ve already seen it, just watch it again. It’s the movie _Wish_ wishes (haha) it was.

@fermintenava5911

5 ай бұрын

Not to mention a look that blends 3D- with 2D-aesthetics. I mean - that's a trend going on for a while now. It's just unfortunate that Disney tried it for this of all films.

@angelbaby3342

5 ай бұрын

@@fermintenava5911The trend started from Spiderverse. Because of that movie, now everyone wants to do this 2D-3D mix. Idk if y’all notice but every time a fight scene happens in Puss in Boots, the animation changes and looks more strikingly similar to Spiderverse style. Which is a good thing. I think that animation style brings out more of what people are trying to show nowadays instead of just straight Pixar CGI.

@aliyahphelps4871

5 ай бұрын

@@angelbaby3342I’m so glad spiderverse’s animation has inspired other animation studios, because it’s just beautiful work.

@torytellstales

5 ай бұрын

Puss In Boots 2 also had a funny villain(Jack Horner), a villain you sympathized with(Goldy), AND a villain to be terrified of(Death)... In "Wish", you felt NOTHING from the villain. And that to me is pretty bad.

@Intrafacial86

5 ай бұрын

I absolutely *HATE* the idea of more studios adopting that choppy on-twos style. Maybe I’ve got some sort of undiagnosed photosensitivity or something, but I had to walk out of _Puss in Boots: the Last Wish_ because the fight sequences made me nauseous. Spiderverse is also unbearable to watch for that same reason.

I think the reason Magnifico and the Queen aren’t Asha’s parents is because Disney has a thing with making biological parents straight up villains. This is why when a villain is close to the hero in a familial way, it’s usually a stepparent, adoptive parent, or an evil aunt or uncle. Notably, when an antagonist IS related to the hero, they are notably less straight up evil and more humanized, or end up redeemed in the end (Encanto is a big example). Part of this is a marketing tactic: parents may complain about a movie where a child rebels a parent, or where a parent must be put in jail for committing certain crimes. Basically, anything that pits parent and child against each other in a way that can’t be solved with reconciliation is stigmatized. This is primarily because I think a lot of Disney parents would find issue with a child “rebelling” against a parent in a permanent sense.

@swishfish4289

5 ай бұрын

It's because of China. Coco while loved, had issues from Miguel disobeying his Grandmother.

@alicerivierre

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, Disney, take some risks for Christ's sake!

@-AirKat-

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@swishfish4289 it’s not just a China thing, I’ve seen parents like that in the US too

@aa-yy1tl

5 ай бұрын

@@-AirKat-i've seen parents like that in any other country tho

@dixiereynolds9909

5 ай бұрын

I can’t blame them for that, Because people literally complained that turning red was trying to “influence children to rebel against their parents will” And yes, I know turning red is technically a pixar movie, but Disney owns Pixar so I feel like it balances out

How I would see the story better: Kingdom has a years long belief that once a month, a star will shine brighter than the moon and if you wish to it by singing the traditional melody with your wish as the words, the wish will be granted. One day however, the star lost its light and stopped giving wishes. The Kingdom fell into a chaos of sadness and broken wishes until a young skilled sorcerer came and started granting wishes of the people in need. He also saved a very sick young woman; she fell inlove with her savior and later they got married. After some time he was given the title King and was beloved by all. Once he became the King, the melody of wishes once singed commonly became forgotten to all, except for one family, who happened to still remember the melody of wishes. Asha and her grandpa were living in a small house in the capital of the Kingdom of wishes. Grandpa wanted the melody not to be forgotten, so he told Asha to ask the King to Grant his wish for the song to be always remembered. Asha went and asked the King, but to her surprise, the King refused to grant the wish for it being not good for the Kingdom. Suspicious, Asha followed the King throught the halls of the wish tower in secret, until they were in a room full of unfulfilled wishes. Asha was shocked and confused, so realising that she saw something that was not supposed to be seen, Asha went back home scared and dissapointed. She was sad to tell her grandpa the bad news, but to her surprise, the grandpa had no idea what wish she was even talking about. Utterly confused, she couldn't sleep that night and went out for a walk. She walked a long time until she was at the top of the mountain. Only then did she realise that her silly little goat was following her so she sat down and gently hugged him while gazing at the sky full of stars. Asha remembered the tale of Melody of wishes and the star her grandpa used to always tell her so she started singing the melody of wishes' melody. After a while she stopped singing and whispered, "Oh dear star of wishes, please shine bright like you used to before. Shine like you used to when granting our wishes". She waited for a while, then laughed lightly at her own foolishness and was just about to turn around, when something very bright and shiny in the sky caught her attention.

Your idea IS better than what they gave, but if Disney puts out another 'my family is the REAL villain' 'My parents not apologizing is the REAL villain' 'My family legacy is holding me back and I need to be set free' type movie I will burst into flames. It went from every Disney parent is deceased to every Disney parent is evil and/ or doesn't understand their kids and is therefore a villain to be defeated. Can we get an Incredibles revival arc? Where sometimes your family has your back and you wear color coordinated outfits while punching psychos in the face together please?

@evage99

5 ай бұрын

I hadn't thought of that; precious few Disney movies tout family as being truly important. That make me sad. Well, more sad.

@FunFilmFare

5 ай бұрын

For sure. Disney parents lately are all either jerks or dead. Wish and Encanto were very welcome exceptions to that.

@Koranthus

5 ай бұрын

@@FunFilmFare While Mirabels parents werent jerks, im not sure they were helpful either. I only watched it once but from what i remember her mom was the toxic positive mom stereotype and i dont remember her dad at all.

@KD-ou2np

4 ай бұрын

​@Koranthus Mirabels parents were both wonderful. It was abuela who had a toxic influence on all of them. The most they were truly guilt of was overlooking how much abuelas pressure was hurting them inside, and that was hard to see because nobody expressed it openly

Okay so, here's how I'd rewrite it Asha is the princess of the kingdom, and both the parents are evil. She's much calmer and shier, preferring to stay quiet, and she's always had everything she could possibly want, but she still doesn't feel complete. She finds out the nearby town is struggling, as they used to make wishes on the stars and have lavish feasts thrown by the previous king, and she realizes her parents haven't been granting wishes like they promised. They stole all the wishing stars from the night sky, but only one remains, which she saves from captivity. The plot is her learning to be more outspoken, learning what her true wish is (to make her people happy), and facing her parents alone. She would win, become the new ruler of the kingdom, and help show everyone how to be more self-reliant and how to make their wishes come true themselves. A time skip would happen at the end. The wishing star has returned to the sky, and though people make their wishes, they don't rely on it anymore, and instead rely on themselves to survive. I'm kinda just spitballing but still, ideas.

@rattales58

5 ай бұрын

Better than what Disney did 😂😂

@alicerivierre

5 ай бұрын

That would've worked out better. I mean, come on, Disney!

@fartinfpooping8801

5 ай бұрын

Wow...! KZread commenters could do these Disney execs' jobs better than they can 😃

@alicerivierre

5 ай бұрын

@@fartinfpooping8801 lol, yeah!

@rainl4750

5 ай бұрын

​@@Kelsey1987urs is kinda bad

I recently learned that Disney did the two old Fantasia films to prove that animation was an artistic medium and not just for kids, by experimenting with different styles and stories. It's literally better than what they've come up recently and I believe they should try that sort of stuff again.

@therealtony2009

5 ай бұрын

....without the racist stuff

@Diloparker

5 ай бұрын

I agree, the “Rite of Spring” segment is one of my favorite animated sequences, and is criminally underrated in my opinion.

@alicerivierre

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'd go for a 3rd Fantasia movie ❤

@bobosmith101

5 ай бұрын

Both were huge financial failures.

@Jerome18921

5 ай бұрын

@@bobosmith101lol

i went to the cinema with my mate. At the end of the movie there was a debate within all the people that was in the cinema. Was curious, we we all talking to each other about it. We all kinda thought the same, that Asha was the villian, selfish and only cared about her relative's wishes and nothing else. I mean when she went to "free" the wishes for the first time, she just went directly for her relative's ones. We all agreed that we felt bad for Magnifico, that before the book possessed him, he was kinda right, yeah a bit narcissist and so, but he let the people live there for free, everyone mostly looked happy, he did all for them, he was facing trauma. And they just questioned him, they didn't cared about Rosas as he did, only about wishes. Then the queen... she knew the book possessed him and at the end of the movie she didn't ehen felt bad for the man she "loves" and juat throwed him in the dungeon. While Asha, the selfish one got everything she wanted and more. And sge learned absolutely nothing. She is the sale from start to finish, no change at all.

@Furienna

3 ай бұрын

Oh bull, they only seemed happy because King Magnifico had lobotomized them and destroyed their personalities so he could stay in power. Give me one example of when he cared about Rosas and not only about himself.

My favorite part is how the tagline of the movie is "Be careful what you wish for" But the movie literally says that everything you wish for is fine and don't worry about it.

The original concept had Star as a mischievous shapeshifter who took human form and might have had a relationship with Asha. Which is… honestly kind of interesting.

@Scrofar

5 ай бұрын

I would've preferred that WAY more

@SkullZie

5 ай бұрын

I WISH that it was like that

@dariuscox3576

5 ай бұрын

Yep. Instead, what we got is just a Luma knockoff.

@yourlocaldemon2195

5 ай бұрын

That would’ve been really cool! Especially the design with the cape of stardust? OUGH, ten times more interesting

@oncreativemode5486

5 ай бұрын

kinda reminds me of the game fantasy life with the chatty butterfly companion

I love how disney became bland and disconnected from what the audience wants, cause it makes room for indie studios and real people (not giant souless corporations) to make movies and animations that people actually want.

@flytrapJester

5 ай бұрын

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@nguyenhuyen1016

5 ай бұрын

Indeed an indie movie, bringing the nostalgia feelings, 2D and 3D blend perfectly to bring out how Disney changed over 100 years. Bring back the animals talking, wishing on the star, villians 😂. Those memories are never forgotten ❤. I scrolled all the comments and most of them just expressed the disappointments. I can tell they just want to bring back those memories for us, those characters 🎉🎉 . This movie is not having a very big climax, but it is a very special movie to me.

@FleuryKaprizovFan_

5 ай бұрын

Disney being like this makes me feel so confident that I can do better

@sylvyboi

5 ай бұрын

​@@FleuryKaprizovFan_Anyone who is passionate about what they do is capable of doing better

@geraldlang6537

5 ай бұрын

That‘s a great way to see it!

The schaffrillas comment got me 🤣 13:13

Why didn't they do a 'Fantasia 2024' for the 100 thing? That would have been perfect! They could have filled it with tons of lovely music and the whole POINT is the beautiful animation being mixed with the lovely classical music!

@Furienna

3 ай бұрын

But the Fantasia movies were never blockbusters and especially the first one was a big financial disappointment.

@Snowthree

2 ай бұрын

@@Furienna Okay. And? Wish was a terrible choice through and through, especially as a celebration movie. You gonna make a celebration movie, may as well make a movie where the whole point is beautiful animation.

@Furienna

2 ай бұрын

"Wish" happened to do well or really well in countries as diverse as France, Spain, United Kingdom, South Korea, Japan, Australia, Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay. You have to look outside your North American box sometimes before you call something a "terrible choice"...

@galaxyeyes1457

5 күн бұрын

yeah and? If your whole argument is how much $$$ Wish made it still bombed overall when you consider the entire international box office. who cares if it did well in a few countries if money is the only factor of success you care about

@Snowthree

5 күн бұрын

@@Furienna I'm not using finances as a metric here. I fully expect that a 'Fantasia 2024' wouldn't do well. But that's the thing; it's not the point. It's meant to celebrate 100 years of beautiful animation. It's hard to not look at something like the Sorcerers Apprentice and not understand just how beautiful it is. Heck, even that silly little opening skit where they had the line was still very well animated. It's hard to look at Fantasia and *not* feel like it's Disney. But what did we get instead? A lazy CGI movie with a terrible script, full of pointless references, and just not very good. Had they just taken their most popular songs and sections, edited them together, and released it on Disney+ it would have been a *much* better celebration than freaking Wish was.

I will never not be ok that we didn’t get Magnifico’s full backstory. It seemed like such a tragic past - his village burned down (by who?), he lost his entire family, and fled to rebuild a Kingdom where he could keep people safe from the same fate with his own two hands. Hmm, doesn’t sound like a bad guy to me. Maybe expand upon it a little Disney? 🙄

@K2SonicFan

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I found it hard to really be upset with him esp after he used the *spoiler* with no sign of redemption. Kinda mad how they handled him in the end and truly see him as a victim

@nickgreene5117

5 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏 yes! The biggest problem was them cutting so much from the early screening showing the progression of magnefico as he was transcending to villain status

@PossibleBat

5 ай бұрын

They probably have a sequel planned that would be 100% more popular than Wish. A story about how a villain was born. Just like Magnificent.

@smartperson1

5 ай бұрын

Wish 2: Rise of Magnifico or "Magnifico" a streaming mini-series? why give what you want now when they can turn this into a tepid media franchise? And the public will gobble it all up anyway…

@marocat4749

5 ай бұрын

I think once upon a time did it better with rumple with him being a really likable antivillain. God carlyle owns that. And he is also like having a kud adaption agency , whuch fitsxwithin his backstory, makes sense, of aman ivercome by corruption odf dark dealy that also is very motherly,but not always good.

How did saberspark write a more compelling story in 5 minutes that Disney couldn’t do in 3 years of development??

@LittleSilva422

5 ай бұрын

As a world-builder i've thought of better plots and storiest than Disney by accident when im about to go to bed

@nicktallfox5266

5 ай бұрын

No restrictions or mandates from corporate above.

@LoneSilverW0lf

5 ай бұрын

I have a buncha half baked WIPs still bouncing around in my computer that have a better premise than what Wish gave us. And that’s not tooting my own horn either, I’m pretty critical of my work.

@LittleSilva422

5 ай бұрын

@@LoneSilverW0lf Whats WIP again?

@RedMattis

5 ай бұрын

"We've discussed your pitch document Saberspark. It is a really fantastic pitch. We're going to make some revisions to align it better with our audiences and the goals of our stakeholders." That plus tons of compromises during development is why.

The concept of sacrificing the memory of your wish for a chance to have it granted, without remembering making the wish itself, could actually work and be pretty uplifting or really fucking dark, depending on how it's implemented. If you still remember why you needed to make the wish, but only forget the act of meeting the king and actually making it, then the wish coming true would feel like a result of your hard work or luck smiling upon you, leaving you content. In this scenario, the king might be revealed later in the film to be a fraud, lacking any substantial magic beyond pretty light effects and leaving the wishes up to chance - thus, an actual wish-granting creature appearing in his kingdom would understandably freak him out and make him do drastic things to stay in power, which could be a commentary on how real-life politicians often rely on fake promises and stealing credit, and the horrible things a paranoid head of the government can be capable of when they feel that their power is in jeopardy. In that case, the message could be that magic is not the end all be all, and people have always been capable of attaining their goals through realistic means, with the star's power maybe used to grant something specifically unrealistic at the end (like breaking a magical curse placed on someone by the king after he goes full dark magic mode), with the more mundane and attainable goals left to be fulfilled by the people themselves. Now, for the darker take: in exchange for making the wish come true, the person forgets why they made the wish in the first place, all feelings that had led to them making it now buried deep within their consciousness. Still, the wish and all the benefits of it are now granted; and if your mother is healthy once again, does it really matter that you have forgotten why you wanted her to be healthy? If you have the money to buy the house of your dreams now, does it matter that you have forgotten why you needed a house like that? If you are now a famous singer, is it bad that you have forgotten why you love to sing? While the benefits are still there and still make sense, this leads to generations of people who have attained what they wanted, but feel no joy from having attained it. The protagonist lives in a kingdom where people seem to be constantly dissatisfied with their daily life and missing a spark, so she feels like the king's wish-granting reign is justified: the people are miserable, they need magic! But then she finds out the truth and realizes that the most miserable people she knows are in fact the ones who had their wishes granted: a young man who constantly squabbles with his elderly mother after having forgotten the love he had for her, a lonely widow who has forgotten that the house she is constantly trying to sell is the dream home she once wished for with her late husband, a washed-up self-absorbed singer who forgot the love he had for his art and is only left with the money and fame aspects of it... As it turns out, trying to magically force your wish to come true will hurt more than it's worth, and the king, a neutral figure in this story, has always warned people about the consequences, they just didn't listen. The star in this story could actually be another member of the king's wish-granting species, who came to bring him home after seeing how unhappy he's been on Earth, but the king protests, still believing that humans, incomplete as they are, need his help and guidance and won't be able to accomplish things without his magical help... Only to be proven wrong by the protagonists refusing to use magic to solve their issues, and gracefully accepting his departure, leaving humans of the kingdom to tend to themselves and regain their autonomy. I wish we could have gotten something like this instead.

You know, Disney could have done the "too nice" trope, where the king is so kind that it is harming the city of Rosas. He fulfills EVERY wish and feels underappreciated. Asha could have been the voice of pragmatism while all the city is in chaos due to their wishes being fulfilled one after the other. This song matchs the vibe. Also, the line 'be careful what you wish for', on the movie's poster would be matching the theme, this way.

This film felt like what Disney believed the fans wanted by crossing off a bunch of boxes on a checklist without putting much effort into any of the tasks on the list.

@victorcharles27

5 ай бұрын

DISNEY STUDIOS IS DEAD 😒

@lillianahunter1199

5 ай бұрын

[×] POC Main Character [×] Strong Willed Independent Female Protagonist Main Character [×] Male/white main generic villain [×] Kingdom filled with different races that come across as flat and out of place for their medieval style fantasy setting. [×]7 Dwarves filling every race box including the 'lazy white guy trope' being the one to betray them all [ ] Coherant storyline that properly entertains the target demographic

@austinreed7343

5 ай бұрын

@@lillianahunter1199 You're missing the point.

@lillianahunter1199

5 ай бұрын

​@@austinreed7343No I think you are my friend

@austinreed7343

5 ай бұрын

@@lillianahunter1199 No you are missing the point.

Y’know what Disney should be advertising? Twisted Wonderland. It’s literally the *only* good and original Disney thing as of recently

@NaokoMarie

5 ай бұрын

They announced a twisted wonderland anime a couple years ago and haven't given any further information since.. Hopefully if it does happen and makes its way to more western disney fans then it could finally squash the "villain anime boy dating sim" allegations lol

@batmansparents1147

5 ай бұрын

@@NaokoMarie there’s a game and it’s actually super easy to play. And not a dating game, lol.

@Nynodon

5 ай бұрын

God my friends are feral about that game.

@gwynethtroyo1865

5 ай бұрын

Nahh, nahh you're absolutely right

@dovahkiin6488

5 ай бұрын

Yes! My thoughts exactly!

I saw one scene of the movie where the main girl sees the King in his explanation about the wishes he wouldn't grant. And right up until he suddenly snapped with the "Because they are mine!" Greed flash, I was on his side. They were happy without their wishes and then suddenly because Plot demanded, they were suddenly unhappy about it.

13:23 im sorry but the schafrillas reference had me laughing 😭 saber is an amazing youtuber

The concept of the movie had an evil royal couple and a romance between Asha and the Star who had a male form. An awesome concept I can think of is the King and Queen were both evil and Asha is their daughter so she grew up thinking that stealing wishes is the right thing. Then the Star boy comes and has to help teach her the right way

@evage99

5 ай бұрын

But that's mansplaining! xD

@greencat3800

5 ай бұрын

Whaaaaaaat??? We should have gotten that story!!! That’s actually a really good concept! Disney’s just afraid of taking risks nowadays and just tend to stick to repetitive tropes for the sake of corporate greed. 😕

@petalleaf2808

5 ай бұрын

Oh my God I would've loved it if it was like this. It's so much more than the generic story and a romance would be nice to see again!

@DraidensDen

5 ай бұрын

Could also have had the opportunity to make the Star non-binary since it was a magical being.... Just sayin'.... But no absolutely NOT any sort of romance is strictly FORBIDDEN BY DISNEY romance??? NAH. It's so disheartening to see, really, when *Disney* was the studio who produced Princess and the Frog, Lady and the Tramp, Aristocats, Hell, *HERCULES* and those films have, in my personal opinion, some of the sweetest love stories. Also also, Asha being the daughter to villains and overcoming perhaps what she might have been taught in an effort to become a better person could have been supremely interesting as well. So, SO many missed opportunities.

@sassylittleprophet

5 ай бұрын

​​@@DraidensDenI'm non-binary, so I would've loved to contribute to that character's experience/attitude/thought process. I'd love it if Asha asked if they were a boy or a girl or which pronouns to use to refer to them, and they're like "...what's that?" because how would they know what gender is or what it means to be a boy or a girl? And after Asha tries to explain, in the end they just shrug and say "...I'm a star." (And it has the added bonus that if parents were to get upset, people could just say "oh so you're saying that *stars* are boys or girls????")

Who WANTS Saber to make a 'What's RUINING Disney/Pixar?' At this point I feel like Disney needs a hard hit to remember what actually made them become the massive empire today, because a lot of their films lately have been suffering so hard, there isn't any magic left in them

@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer

5 ай бұрын

Short video. D.I.E mandates and spineless corpos whose only motivation is seeing numbers go up on a chart

@kenpatchiramasama1076

5 ай бұрын

capitalism fam, that's what's ruining it

@Walnut64

5 ай бұрын

Their focusing too much on the merch, Disney world, etc that they forgot what makes a good game. The same thing is currently happening with Pokémon.

@sabertoothno34

5 ай бұрын

they're detached. So focused on pushing out products that they are overworking while underpaying their staff for faster production not really thinking about if it clashes with another story or with itself. They stopped trying because they know that as long as the animation is somewhat decent kids will watch it and want all their products. They thought of the kids first and their Disney adults last, which is why the best Disney adults get out of this are the many references of past stories and movies they made. To many it feels like a backhanded compliment reminding people that Disney knows they can do great but just doesn't care.

@cameronbosch1213

5 ай бұрын

Honestly, if this ship doesn't turn around soon, it could become a "what RUINED Disney" and I can see this exact scenario happening sadly.

Are we going to ignore the fact that the song At All Cost was obviously meant to be the love duet for Asha and concept Star boy. The demo even says love you while the movie changes it to promise you

You know for something that's supposed to be the celebration of a companies 100 year lifespan, you think they'd make something all grandiose. Like, Prince of Egypt level of quality in terms of animation pioneering, music, and story telling. Instead, to quote the memes, we got a Disney movie from Wish.

Fun fact: I work at a grocery store and the only way I knew this movie existed, was because the characters were on the stickers on the bananas. That was the only marketing I remember

@p-__

5 ай бұрын

My farts are better than Saberspark and Saberfart’s farts 💨

@JuLayLeeBee

5 ай бұрын

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@6coins

5 ай бұрын

I guess they were hoping the stickers would make the movie more... a-peel-ing.

@gucciguy3408

5 ай бұрын

Yea never heard of the movie before Saber’s video on it. Leo by Adam Sandler looks way better to watch.

@Niklmon

5 ай бұрын

I didnt even see those. So I didnt know this movie existed.

it's insane that tangled the series had a better soundtrack than disney's 100th year anniversary feature movie

@cookierunjunk6393

5 ай бұрын

Considering they got pop song writers to do it instead of musical theatre writers, not too surprising. Dunno why Disney seems to hate musical theatre these days

@michaelstrong5383

5 ай бұрын

I knew this soundtrack was in trouble the second I found out that one of the songwriters wrote Justin Beiber's "Sorry" song. Calling that a red flag would be an understatement.

@hollum1648

5 ай бұрын

Alan Menken didn’t become an EGOT winner to be known as the ‘Tangled the Series guy’ lmao

@peachy8565

5 ай бұрын

The one song I like is This Wish because Ariana DeBose. But TTS slaps so hard

@RahRizzle123

5 ай бұрын

Varian and Cass pulling up to sing the best songs ever made by Disney(Nothing left to lose,ready as ill ever be,crossing the line,waiting in the wings, and let me make you proud)

From the premise alone, I expected something along the lines of Asha grants all the wishes and, surprise, it doesn't work, because the wishes contradict each other or people made the wish when they were younger and have now moved on in life. If they had kept the humanoid star, he could have been a bit of a trickster, maybe he wants to grant as many wishes as possible and tricks Asha into helping him. Magnifico could have been an interesting villain in that regard. Like you said, granting all wishes could have been bad for several reasons.

If I were to change the movie here's the story I would go with. Intro: The Kingdom of Rosas is ruled by a king who has the ability to turn wishes into a reality. However, due to personal greed he and his wife keep most of the wishes and came up with the excuse that only one wish can be granted a month or else he could lose his powers. The reason he keeps most of the wishes is because he can turn them into energy to make him more powerful. The king uses the magic to stay in power and lets his wife pick the wishes to grant so long as they can be twists to benefit the King and Queen equally, if not more, than they benefit the people. (Could actually begin the movie with a villain song between the king and queen explaining why the stars give them power, how they met, and more about their personality.) Act 1: Asha is either an actual princess or already the King's intern. She understands that the King refuses to grant every wish because of greed but doesn't speak up about it because she believes that she's insignificant and doesn't have the ability to take a stand against the king. One night, a group of unknown commoners sneak into the castle and steal one of their wishes back in hopes of making it come true themselves which causes the now rageful King to send Asha after the wish without yet explaining why it's so important. Asha goes after the wish and steals it back but gets lost in the forest and is separated from the commoners. She gets upset and sings a song about a wish she's always had which managed to summon a Wishing Star. The wishing star (in human form) finds out that Asha had wished to be able to make a change but when asked about what she means Asha is unable to give a straight answer because her creativity and true desires have been muted and censored by the King. The wishing star sees that Asha needs some help getting her wish and decides to stick by her and help her figure out what she wants to wish on, (Around here you could include an Aladdin reference I guess?) The Wishing Star sings a funny little song, he uses his magic and the animals all join in for the song, the wishing star gets excited and makes a wave of stardust with Alerts the king that a wishing star has fallen. The king reveals through exposition and a conversation with his wife that the Wishing Star could make them the most important people in the world if they harvested the wishing star into stardust which they could use to make hundreds of their own wishes come true (the king could explain that stardust is the essence or something of the Wishing Star and that stardust can be wished upon as well and can usually grant the wish since it's straight from a wishing star). Act 2: Meanwhile, Asha and the wishing star are bonding and the Star learns that Asha doesn't have many chances to express her creativity and so the Star decides to teach her how to do some art or something creative like poetry (If they really wanted to they could to a song where the Wish sings and slowly helps include Asha in the song where she delivers the final chorus and starts to feel more confident about herself). During this time the Star also explains that "Only a wish from something truly Pure of Heart can be granted by a Wishing Star" and also have the power to grant other people's wishes. Asha is finally able to find a way back home but as she's approaching she finds wanted posters for the star and learns that the Wishing Star is being hunted down for the promise of a granted wish. Asha decides to disguise the Wishing Star to look like a human and some goofiness ensues as she sneaks him into the kingdom and the castle before accidentally running into the king. The king is skeptical about the Wishing Star, not actually knowing what it is, but assumes He's just a friend of Asha's and moved along. The wishing star and Asha go to the King's laboratory/inner chambers and the Wishing Star finds all of the wish bubbles floating around. He gets upset and tries to grant some of them but Asha, who's been told that many Wishes are actually dangerous, tries to stop the Wishing Star and a fight breaks out. The Wishing Star sends out another wave of stardust which causes not just most of the wishes to suddenly be granted, but alerts the king that the Wishing Star is inside of the castle. The king comes and takes Asha to the dungeon before taking the Star to another part of the castle so he can be put back in his star form and turned into a normal Wishing Star. (Around here the king could also have a shorter song about harvesting the song which could either be a shorter reprise of an earlier song or something else) 3. Asha is in the dungeon, crying and feeling upset that she couldn't get herself to calm down and let the Wishing Star grant the wishes even though she knew that not much real harm would come. The Queen comes by and has a chat with Asha, trying to have the girl see some good in the situation and get her to pledge her loyalty again to the queen and king but fails. The Queen sings a song that's pretty much all about calling Asha selfish and stupid and saying she should never have gotten the wishing star. The Queen also sings about how she works and helps the king because she loves him but is cut off when Asha sings about how the King only wanted power and let his wife join him because she picked the Wishes. The queen, now unsure of where to stand, says a few lines before leaving Asha alone in the Dungeon. Asha sings/speaks a short reprise of her original wishing song (Maybe even a reprise of her song "So I Make This Wish") before she wishes that "I could make a change". Everything goes quiet for a moment before underneath her skin, her heart starts to glow a soft golden yellow color like the Wishing Star. Asha remembers that only someone "Pure of Heart" can make a true wish come true and it fills Asha with hope. Asha has her Girl Power moment and she manages to use her newly found creative freedom to find a creative way out of the cell. Outside of the castle, the king is getting ready to harvest the star and obstain the stardust. The queen goes to inspect the star and ask the king how it works but is pulled back by the King which is where the Queen realizes that the King truly only wants the power. The Queen leaves to go get Asha from the dungeon but runs into her as she's trying to escape, the two have a little bit where they explain where they were going and what happened before they settle on a trucs. Asha said she wants to get back the Wishing Star but the Queen says that the King is unstoppable because it's just the two of them. Asha and the Queen think before they hear something outside and see that most of the towns folk have had their wishes granted and the Queen and Asha make a plan to lead the Commoners to the king. The Queen says that the King wants them all to go to the palace where the star is being harvested and are successful. Everybody makes their way to the king who is about to harvest the star when everybody comes in and sees the king. The king tells them that nothing can stop him and has his evil monologue about how he's worked too hard to get here and won't let anybody stop him. The queen tries to reason with him but is told off by the king. Asha steps in and talks about how she's learned so much thank's to the star and reveals to the townsfolk that the King only grants wishes that help him which causes the commoners to get upset. The townsfolk riot, trying to stop the king. A big fight happened and Asha is about to free the Wishing Star only for the spell complete and the Wishing Star returns to his Star form before he turns into stardust that spills into Asha's hands. Asha is filled with rage and anger and grief while the king gets all of the Stardust and wishes to make himself the most important person in the world. And the wish is almost accomplished, except Asha stick has a single piece of stardust in her hands. She gets her solo and does a final reprise of "So I Make This Wish" and her wish of being able to "make a change" comes true. Asha's pure heart gloss again along with her clothes and hair before she sends out a wave of stardust through the kingdom and everybody's wishes are granted yet again only this time it's not to benefit anybody. Insert a cool montage of people getting their wishes granted and how they use them to help others or improve their lives. The king also gets his wish granted, the wish to be the most important person in the world, only instead of being the most important person to everybody, he loses all of his magic and is left with his wife. When asked what does this mean the wife explains that "he's the most important person to her" because the King's wife is his world. Asha and the Towns people get their final number. A few references or easter eggs are seen/shown, and the movie ends with the message that it's important that creative freedom isn't controled or censored because if it is you lose the point of it being creative. Hope you enjoyed my notes. Let me know what you think! (⁠｡⁠•̀⁠ᴗ⁠-⁠)⁠✧

@lykhra2178

4 ай бұрын

Omfg I love this

I would have thought for Disney’s 100th film, they would have done a 2D biopic of Walt Disney; would’ve made a great excuse to use Mickey Mouse as a protagonist.

@michaelstrong5383

5 ай бұрын

Now that sounds like a great idea for a movie. I'm surprised Disney hasn't made something like that yet.

@CyreseParrish

5 ай бұрын

​@@michaelstrong5383Disney is way too creatively disinclined to even think of something like that now

@i.hate.swedish.ISRAELUBERALLES

5 ай бұрын

Lmao imagine Mickey mouse stealing ideas , chainsmoking war profiteering and hating jews they ain't gonna do anything about old Walt he is not PC and profitable

@CyreseParrish

5 ай бұрын

@@i.hate.swedish.ISRAELUBERALLES Walt Disney did not hate Jews. You can kind of make an argument with the whole "stealing ideas" topic if you consider almost all of Disney's works up to a point to be adaptations of already existing works. And yes, he was an avid smoker. But he was not antisemitic, this was already debunked.

@georgethompson913

5 ай бұрын

​@@i.hate.swedish.ISRAELUBERALLESnot to mention advocating for b9mbers and hatong the nazis!

At this point, I doubt Disney will ever redeem themselves

@otakumarcus

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, they’ll be out of business sooner or later.

@karolinakuc4783

5 ай бұрын

​@@otakumarcusYup. Apple will buy Disney you will see

@pepsicannot

5 ай бұрын

@@otakumarcusthat’s probably unlikely, they still have theme parks, merchandise, old Disney movies and Disney+ as well as upcoming movies like don’t think they will be out anytime soon

@daniapfel2825

5 ай бұрын

​@@otakumarcusYeah

@UnkownWonders

5 ай бұрын

​@@otakumarcusI hope so

my hot take is that magnifico is actually...good. he is, in my opinion, not intended to be a new age villain. he has the flashiness of one, but he is created in the style of a classic villain. he lies, cheats, struts around, is two seconds from going full evil from not getting his way...hes basically a cross between all of the beloved ones. Jafar's motivation is vaguely concern for the kingdom but he just wants power. Ursula wants revenge against triton for...some reason. Maleficent is just pissed she wasnt invited, gothel wants to stay young forever...yes, they all have backstories, but the backstory is often only alluded to rather than delved because theyre not intended to be redeemed or forgiven. magnifico is the same. hes not a twist villain or a sympathetic one. He was very blatantly lying about the safety thing, because he enjoys the control. i mean, thats what his whole thing with the song before that scene was, he was waxing about the wishes, how much he loved them. not his people, but the wishes themselves, the power they have, how they make him feel. hes a narcissistic jackass and isnt intended to be relatable, just an asshole. he does present in an upbeat cheery way, but thats the new disney feel because they cant queercode the villains anymore ...my secondary hot take is that if you view the movie through a different lens, it clicks into place. Here's my advice to anyone who hasnt seen it: view Asha as an independant creator. View magnifico as the walt disney corporation. Disney takes tales and artists dreams of telling their stories, greenlights a couple at a time, and the rest? laid to waste. magnifico grants a couple wishes, says thats good, and then gets mad when others clamor for their wishes to be granted or returned. the wishes are artists projects, their darlings. Disney takes their projects, says "thats ours forever and going into our vault, hope you didnt want this back!" and owns said art until forever, never to be free to be reused somewhere else, since disney has a policy that while you work for them, all your art is theirs. asha is a champion of artists rights to freedom and expression. magnifico is corporate meddling

@kiwirobbi1168

5 ай бұрын

that is a really interesting and pretty cool view of the movie. That being said, its hella ironic that it fits into place when the wish movie is meant to be the 100 year anniversary as well as the fact that executives sticking their noses into everything botched what could have been a very compelling film (based on the concept art)

@magicwandstudio3141

5 ай бұрын

Not for 100 years celebration

This might be a horrible idea, but It could have been cool if they did like a ready player one moment and had the wish king (don’t remember his name) turn evil and start breaking reality and start using his magic to pull the villains from all the other Disney movies. And the wishing stars see this and does the same but with all the progtaganist to help combat all the villains- idk I’m just spit balling ☠️

The Frozen 2 documentary, Into The Unknown on D+, was probably far more revealing of the cracks that were present in WDAS than they likely believed back when it was filmed. It genuinely feels like Chris Buck and the others were so directionless and aimless with this project, coming up with so many ideas that were swiftly rejected by executives, being unable to come up with a strong story and narrative, got far too ambitious with an art style that was well-intentioned *and* being hampered by an unmovable deadline just in time for Disney's 100th anniversary. I wouldn't be surprised if Wish was them throwing together something workable from the mess of loose concepts and scenes that they had come up with but were unable to combine properly just to get *something* out before Disney's release date. It's likely that so much work was thrown out multiple times in trying to find something that gelled. I wonder if test audiences were just as icy?

@isirlaughsalot2675

5 ай бұрын

I was thinking about this exactly. It seems like a frozen 2 disaster all over again, almost eerie in its similarities. The release date being unable to be moved makes this similar too. Jennifer Lee just isn't cut out to lead Disney animation. They also need to stop forcing release dates upon their creatives.

@Wellworm

5 ай бұрын

I don't know. Frozen 2 had a lot of interesting and outright dark ideas. It was a disorganized mess, but not empty. Wish feels completely hollow. Executives stuck their finger in and scooped out whatever substance the creatives put in there.

@valivali8104

5 ай бұрын

​@@isirlaughsalot2675 or start planning way earlier so artists have enough time.

@FabulousCooki

5 ай бұрын

Wait what documentary is this please tell? 🙂

@me-myself-i787

5 ай бұрын

​@@FabulousCookiInto the Unknown: Making Frozen 2

16:50 I've been having this "We were robbed! There was so much potential!" feeling since I saw the Frozen 1 concept art. Seems like Disney is just so afraid of taking a minimal risk that they do their movies boring and predictable.

@jolly_39

5 ай бұрын

Ever since the succes of Tangled, Disney seems to be oppsessed with forcing every animated movie they make into the "princess" mold, even though they had much more diverse line up of movies during the nineties to 2000s. Movies like Lion King, Lilo and Stitch, Tarzan or the Goofy movie varied much more in tone, story and setting than the movies we got in the last 10 years. If an idea or a movie doesn't fit the princess mold it gets dropped by Disney.

@KingOfGaymes

5 ай бұрын

Imagine if Elsa had been evil omfg I dream about that

@straightfromthepsychward

5 ай бұрын

@@KingOfGaymesthat would’ve been so much better than the whole “the most powerful kind of love is sisterly love/familial love….” bull its almost as if people don’t naturally have familial love built into them… disney srsly disappoints me sometimes 😭😭

@Xxxfallen_angelxxX

5 ай бұрын

FINALLY GOD I HATE THAT WE DIDNT GET THE FROZEN 1 CONCEPT ART AND NOW THE FRANCHISE IS JUST A CASH GRAB

@andreasottohansen7338

5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, taking a risk on artistic expression just doesn't make financial sense, and Disney went into full corporate money maker mode ages ago.

It's actually so sad how they could fck up something as important as their 100th anniversary like this These are the ppl that made literal childhoods, and this is the best they can do for the 100th anniversary?

Watched wish on thanksgiving. It was so mid it felt kinda surreal. Like the very overused and stereotypical plot. Everything felt pretty meaningless and had no thought put in, like it was quickly strewn together. And I was sooo excited and made my family go because I was ecstatic to finally see a new character instead of another remake or live action. More sad then anything, especially since I never got to experience the original Disney days or really anything like that. I would give away my life savings to live in the 2000’s.

Simple plot changes that could have saved this story: 1. Have Asha already be Magnifico's apprentice and learning magic 2. Give Magnifico limited power to grant wishes which would fuel his self serving choices 3. Magnifico also got his powers from a star long ago and went down the path of containing it as a resource Even if you left everything the same these simple changes could have at least made the plot and themes make some kind of cohesive sense.

@All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers

5 ай бұрын

These make a lot of sense. Would've made for a much better story

@Brojogon

5 ай бұрын

The 3rd one would have changed everything, I definitely want to see a backstory of Magnifico like this.

@cartoonishidealism582

5 ай бұрын

Honestly, I don’t think any of that is the most important The most important thing that this movie fails to do is get us to CARE ABOUT ROSAS. We need to care about Asha’s family, her friends, because that is her whole motivation. I could ignore a lot of bullshit if I’m at least INVESTED in the story. If I at least CARE what happens next.

@cbismarck07

5 ай бұрын

I think it would be nice to give Magnifico and Amaya a son who is training to become king and thus the kingdom's wish granter. He could be Asha's love interest.

@randomsamurai3855

5 ай бұрын

But nah they tried to make there own shang tsung

Wish tried so hard to stick to the “classic Disney formula” (a quirky female protagonist, a funny animal sidekick, an evil villain with a musical number, etc.) that it lacks its own identity. It doesn’t do anything spectacular or daring compared to Disney's other works. It just kinda… exists.

@p-__

5 ай бұрын

My farts are better than Saberspark and Saberfart’s farts 💨

@bezierballad8852

5 ай бұрын

@@p-__ Begone, bot

@p-__

5 ай бұрын

@@bezierballad8852 no

@JuLayLeeBee

5 ай бұрын

@@bezierballad8852seriously

@cesardiezv

5 ай бұрын

Yet one of the traditional Disney ingredients is missing: romace.

Disney can't let childrens see their heroes face their parents, that would give them ideas

@shio_juniper

3 ай бұрын

Well, if a CARTOON makes more influence on a child than their parents, it's not a problem of cartoon, I guess... But this doesn't change anything.

The star's magic being able to make people feel warm and joyful is a reference to how modern Disney movies do not do any of that.

Something that Disney could have done was make Asha have a VILLAIN ARC then have a REDEMPTION ARC, near the end of the movie of her realization that she thought all the GOOD DOING was hurting everyone. King Magnífico would try to help her OR make realize that she can’t wish all harm to go away as harm will come full circle, like Yin and Yang “In all there is good there is evil, in all there is evil there is good.” DISNEY COULD HAVE DONE THIS!!!!!

@_ravenwyrd_

5 ай бұрын

they're way too afraid to go out of their comfort zone to do anything like that, but at the same time they don't realize NOT going out of their comfort zone is what's shooting them in the foot

@asain3586

5 ай бұрын

​​​@@_ravenwyrd_ And the moment they go out of comfort zone, they go back in opposite direction, going full retard in woke and other bullshit

@tabitharust304

5 ай бұрын

Yes! I've also heard that some people think that asha is magnifico's daughter, I feel like if they had made that true, it would have made a lot more sense considering the story, especially with this idea of making asha evil too! I heard they were originally gonna make the Queen evil and not just the king, but the king still would have been more evil. In my opinion, that would have made the movie a lot more interesting than it turned out to be!(and don't quote me on that because I don't know if it was true or not, just what I've heard)(edit: lol there was a random emoji on the middle of my comment idk where that came from but I got rid of it)

@user-vh8qn6zh3p

5 ай бұрын

​@@tabitharust304They could have another Disney princess with that :D

@devrogalyon3220

5 ай бұрын

I saw the potential for a very interesting and nuanced look at what it means to wish and grant wishes. Magnifico starts the movie as a very sympathetic king who’s overprotective of his people’s wishes. Asha is an idealist who thinks no matter the wish they should be able to come true. I was hoping to see Asha have all the wishes be granted, and we see utter chaos break out with some people having conflicting wishes or outright malicious ones. The movie even poses interesting questions it could have asked (what if we change our wish?). Asha and Magnifico would need to team up to fix it and along the way both come to appreciate the other’s perspective. But no, Magnifico just turns cartoonishly, irredeemably evil at the drop of a fucking hat for literally no reason whatsoever.

With seeing what the concept art for star looked like, I was so SO SORELY disappointed in what star turned out to be. Upon my first reaction to seeing the star, I was like, "Yep, that's going to be the marketable part of the movie."

@p-__

5 ай бұрын

My farts are better than Saberspark and Saberfart’s farts 💨

@behurastudio

5 ай бұрын

If it was up to me I'd make the Star some Eldritch (but good hearted) Ophanim-looking entity from the cosmos lmao

@yourdaddysaid

5 ай бұрын

star should have been our homeboy ♡ ♪ ! ?

@SagittariusAyy

5 ай бұрын

They dragged a poor Luma into this, didn’t they? *Ding!*

@bearerofbadnews1375

5 ай бұрын

That was my reaction to along with the goat.

No more adorkable quirky main characters PLEASE. Throw in a regal, calm, elegant princess back into the roster. And make it 2D

Actually...with Asha becoming a fairy godmother at the end...doesn't she literally take the Kings place? She picks and chooses whos wish she grants based on her whims and if you take into account how things work in Cinderella, it leaves me to believe that she's probably granting far less wishes than the king was in this film.

@cartoonishidealism582

5 ай бұрын

To be fair that was never REALLY the conflict? The conflict was that the king was hoarding the wishes. Not returning them back to the people. Asha doesn’t have a problem with the idea that the king isn’t granting every wish, she fully acknowledges that it might be dangerous, but she believes that he shouldn’t keep their wishes hostage. That people should be allowed to pursue their dreams with or without magic.

@featgorgon3985

5 ай бұрын

@@cartoonishidealism582but say he gives a dangerous wish back, that means that person knows what they wanted to do, so that person fully well could carry on pursuing that dangerous wish, for example, if I wanted someone to die, but I had the wish taken and had no knowledge of ever wanting to do that because I gave away that wish to the king, should the king in good faith give that horrible wish back and carry on with the knowledge that there’s a possibility they’ll do the heinous wish on their own?

@nixxdra

5 ай бұрын

@@featgorgon3985 But the point was that the king’s view of what wishes were “bad” was incredibly skewed. The wishes he claimed were harmful weren’t really so, he was just selfish and paranoid.

@fist-of-doom487

5 ай бұрын

Moral of the story: Fascism works as long as your the right kind of fascist. Hero does the same Thing the King does but it’s fine because she’s the hero.

@honeybun8823

5 ай бұрын

@@nixxdrayeah, he shouldn’t be allowed to decide what’s good and bad because he’d obviously favor things that benefitted him and didn’t upset the status quo, which was him holding all the power. He’s biased.

You know it’s bad when the short before the movie does a better job at paying homage to the legacy of Disney (And generally being good), more than the movie itself

@p-__

5 ай бұрын

My farts are better than Saberspark and Saberfart’s farts 💨

@JeskidoYT

5 ай бұрын

Wait what short? It didn't air in my theater

@alexcobb8766

5 ай бұрын

@@JeskidoYTyea mine didn’t have a short either

@Gloom_Shroom_Gaming

5 ай бұрын

These bots are WILD

@pokefanalex9504

5 ай бұрын

​@@JeskidoYTthey mean once upon a studio though it never aired in front of Wish because it instead came out in October

Ugh this DOES scream corporate intervention, especially looking at the concept art and everything. There is so much potential of an evil sorcerer/sorceress power couple being the villain and the wishing star being a voiceless magic boy.

I often ask myself (mostly just this year), why is Disney celebrating their classic when they hate their classics? Isn't that the reason why they are doing Live Action Remakes is to fix the "problems" that (not) everyone complained about?

@PissyLissy

5 ай бұрын

Money.

The concept art posted on Twitter was a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE missed opportunity😫 The human Star (looks similar to Asha's grandfather) and Asha could've been friends, working together to stop the evil King and Queen's threat or something. Asha's grandfather could've been reincarnated to a human Star, the story might be 10x better. There's noting wrong with references and/or in-jokes. Genie did comedic references throughout Aladdin, but it was well-written since he predicts the future.

@michaelstrong5383

5 ай бұрын

A King and Queen villain duo would have been a whole lot of fun.

@TheAkwarium

5 ай бұрын

@@michaelstrong5383 it'd have also been something new, Disney hasn't had a villain couple before

@moonescentpearl

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@michaelstrong5383​​⁠​⁠​⁠oh my gosh missed opportunity. at least the queen didn't turn out to be secretly evil

I work at a movie theater, time to time I get to hear what the customers think of the movie they watched. Many customers have told me how disappointed they were with Wish, they've even told me that Trolls was better. 💀 Needless to say, I'll always enjoy their feedback.

@Louriii

5 ай бұрын

Lmao thank you for the laugh imagine being beaten by the movie infamous for the best one liner “Singing killed my grandma okay?!”

@daniapfel2825

5 ай бұрын

​@@LouriiiYeah funny 🤣🤣🤣

5 ай бұрын

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if my family thinks the new Trolls is better than Wish, especially since we grew up during N*SYNC’s popularity. But I’ll still give both and Migration a chance. Anything I’m missing?

@t1mburt0nsdandruff

5 ай бұрын

@@Louriii Tbf, Trolls had a decent plot and a good plot twist villain with a decent motive

@rachel_espinoza

5 ай бұрын

@I loved Wish. I want to see Migration.

One thing I will say is that while King Magnifico was undoubtedly confusing in his character, he was the first actually "evil for the sake of evil" character we had after like, 9 years. And his voice actor was actually really fantastic! You can just tell that he was just having fun popping his lines around

Would’ve been really cool is that magnifico told his backstory of how why he doesn’t grant wishes. He could have said I once lived in a land far far away from here that was filled with magic, but a young evil sorcerer discovered a wishes potentials, and started draining everyone of their wishes, destroying the kingdom in the process. My wife and I fled and that is how we found this kingdom. It is later revealed that he is the young sorcerer that destroyed the kingdom and built Rosa in the image of his old kingdom and is secretly keeping the wishes for the power both he and his wife.

If Wish was a classical 2D animation, that would be a huge improvement in celebrating their past, especially if it slowly transitioned to the modern format through the duration. It would show growth and charm of the world, and let it breathe in creativity.

@otakumarcus

5 ай бұрын

The 3D was chosen to have more camera movement

@seekerstheshy3842

5 ай бұрын

god the main girl would've looked so pretty in 2d!!!! it'd give them a chance to make her look so much more different from how 3d Disney movies have been doing female main characters

My mom saw the TV spots for Wish while the channel was playing Raya. Her impression was that they took characters from their other movies and just changed their names and gave them different color palettes. Nothing felt unique. And she's a die-hard loyalist who enjoys the live-action remakes.

@daniapfel2825

5 ай бұрын

Wow she’s right your mother

@UnkownWonders

5 ай бұрын

When even a die hard Disney adult is saying this .... then Disney fucked up big

@DazzlingNishi

5 ай бұрын

lowkey when I first saw the Wish protagonist thought she looked a lot like Isabella from Encanto

@maysee2515

5 ай бұрын

​@@DazzlingNishiI had the same confusion; i figured it was a sequel to Encanto

The only thing I’ll say about this movie is when I first saw the posters for it my VERY FIRST thought was “I hope they don’t make the goat talk”. And once I heard it’s voice in the trailer…I about threw up. Idk if they were trying to be funny or what but giving an adorable goat such a deep voice just (personally) upset me so much. Just have a cute animal character that doesn’t talk, it’s fine

Here's some of the ways I'd improve wish. I'd make the king and queen Asha's biological parents. They spoil her while at the same time giving her all of their values, telling her how to control the wishes. She loves her parents dearly and has no reason to question them. When the people who you grew up with, teaching you everything, are bad people, what does that make you? It isn't until star boy (in the concepts the yellow star was also a human boy), I'm keeping that, and he tells Asha what her parents are actually doing. At first, she doesn't beileve him, until Star shows her first hand, how her parents use this to control the kingdom.. and herself. Plot twist, she's tried to tell them how she's felt about them using their power, but they don't grant her wish and erase her memories. She confronts them yet again, and they erase her memories again, but thanks to star boy, she remembers everything. But she plays dumb, acts like she doesn't remember anything. She and star boy come up with a plan. They wait until Asha is crowned queen, and uses her powers to grant everyone's wishes. Except for her parents. She makes them live among everyone else, only they can never get any of their wished granted

I think the thing that could have saved the ENTIRE movie is, if they would have just shown a flashback scene of the king fulfilling a nice seeming wish, but it ending up killing many. Especially one sounding similarly to the one the Grandfather wished for. That way, we had a motivation for the villain, had actual stakes as we know what COULD happen, and maybe in the end him not even being bad but just protective. As now, the villain feels like he has no motivation, the plot has no substance, and stuff just happens because it needs to. The movie feels flat

5 ай бұрын

Good idea, have it that one of those dying was his Queen, grief and pain can make people really change and even go off the rails completely, some can come back from it, others fall into the depths of grief and never return. Make the King the 2nd type, he can never accept wishes being granted except in rear cases because of his pain and fear.

@jjcymbolic

5 ай бұрын

They don't even need to flashback to this. They could have shown and not told it SOOO well. Asha asks, "What is so unsafe about this wish?" And him latching onto the bubble, holding it close and him stumbling over his words. Showing fear in his eyes, while you hear a heartbeat speeding up in the background. Tears bud at the corner of his eyes, and Asha speaks again to break him out of it.

@aldproductions2301

5 ай бұрын

How about making the king a king through a wish that killed his best friend but gave him his power? You get * Man who makes a wish that ends badly * Backstory that clearly explains why the king would be cautious around wishes * A reason for the knowledge that "evil magic" can control you

@erima4270

5 ай бұрын

Love this idea! I think we also needed bigger stakes for a wish being destroyed, like the wisher falling into a coma, becoming severely ill, or completely losing the will do to anything. Instead of, yknow, just feeling sad briefly.

@valivali8104

5 ай бұрын

Or king witnessed years ago as prince at least once how fulfilled wish hurt one who made wish and/or others, and together with his causious nature makes him over-careful? Especially if he has self-esteem issues and think nobody likes him if he isn’t perfect?

Obviously it's not impossible for a 17 year old to have a 100 year old grandpa but it probably would have made more sense to make him the great grandpa.

@Ninten110dogs

5 ай бұрын

I was thinking this, too. Suuuper weird age gap.

@Furienna

5 ай бұрын

Both my grandfathers were dead before my parents had kids. But that would have been the exact age gap between me and my paternal grandfather.

@cartoonishidealism582

5 ай бұрын

Man Sabo Sabino must have gotten around in his old age Good for him

@Furienna

5 ай бұрын

@@cartoonishidealism582 Both my grandfathers were in their 40s when they had kids. Then my father was 41 years old when I was born, so yeah...

@AvelierPlays

5 ай бұрын

It’s a fantasy film, who cares if he is 100 or 10000? It’s an obvious reference to the anniversary, that’s all

Even the idea of working towards making your own wish come true isn't new for Disney. The Princess and the Frog captured that really well.

the fact that the star guy was supposed to be the love interest and a shapeshifter ?? I’m so sad we didn’t get that