I puchased a new pump and the mist filter was broken off when it arrived. Harvest Right was nice enough to send a replacement without making me return the broken unit. Harvest Right even sent out a new lcd display free of charge even though my unit is over 5 years old. Just wanted to share my excellent experiences with Harves Right! 😁

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Good to hear positive reactions with HR

Thank you for this video. I have tried to explain this to so many people and they are just clueless. This works the same way a rotary screw compressors separator works.

Thanks for a good info…. Always helpful

Phil - Thank you for taking the time to make these videos - you are detailed and thorough in whatever you cover and I really appreciate you (America like it used to be). I look forward to your oil pump motor replacement video 👍

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I was under the assumption (yes, I know...lol) that you 'should' clean the filter if it gets oil soaked but I trust your information because I know you actually do research things first. I guess I should be glad I couldn't get to the exposed filter. So, no attempted cleaning for me..replacement if needed =) Thanks again Phil! You're the man =)

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Kind words, thanks

Your videos are excellent, Phil. So very helpful. Can't thank you enough for your efforts.. I'm sure I speak for many people when I say, "You've answered so many of my questions and, consequently, saved me so much grief." My best.

@Philat4800feet

8 ай бұрын

Thank you

Good to know how if I ever need to clean the filter, I had a mist fill the house the first few times so since i was next to a window i built a little platform outside for the pump so now I don't have to worry about it and having the pump outside cutts down on noice and heat from pump also.

I thought that HR had instructions on cleaning the filter and WASHING it with water. I have a spare one. I did clean and wash one. I used an air gun to blow most of the water out. I then let it dry out for a week. It still works good.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Harvest Right has developed many procedures' in-house. It's unknown if their information came from their research or from the manufacture. In this case, I contacted Navac. Navac's direction came from the manufacturer. You took great care to insure the filter medium was dry before using it again. Imagen the issues if your filter was still wet when placed back in service.

Despite my better judgement, I let movers move our FD. I am about to conduct the initial tests and think everything will be fine, but they did spill a lot of oil out of my pump into my demister...should have drained it but didn't think they'd be turning it upside down. Am glad I watched this instead of the HR recommended video out of the manual. I ended up using paper towels to pull most of the oil out of the filter element - thankfully there wasn't too much, but still pretty annoying. As always, thanks for the excellent videos. I recommend your channel all the time.

@rodneyashcraft4440

7 ай бұрын

Did you get a lot of oil mist in the air? My bread run was getting a lot of fogging into my garage. I ended the cycle early during Heating. I am in the middle of my second bread run now.

@T4nkcommander

7 ай бұрын

@@rodneyashcraft4440 no, my paper towel trick worked well. I used a lot of paper towels tho

Thank you and a very timely video for me-my hubby put a piece of wadded up tissue paper in where the ball bearing is to alleviate some misting and I’m afraid my filter now is not able to drain as it should. When I changed my oil and set the filter upside down to refill the oil it now leaks all over my premier pump….🙄

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Some engineer somewhere designed it this way for a reason. Best not to screw it up.

@junipersue

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet I have learned to just watch your you tube channel…. 😉

@vickiemcilroy

3 ай бұрын

What would cause my vacuum pump to smoke?

Thank you for showing this. I have run five batches on my new unit and there has always been oil in the drain water. I changed and discarded the break in oil and now see bubbles in the site glass when the pump is running. Also, when the pump first starts up, the oil level in the site glass goes up above the upper level line for a few seconds before dropping back to a safe running level. I had thought it might be something wrong with the demister but now I am not sure. It will pull a vacuum and works fine but I wonder how much damage those bubbles are doing. I know cavitation will eat a pump up when the bubbles implode. I am going to run it in the test mode and see if I can talk to someone at Harvest Right. Any help would sure be appreciated.

What happens if you need to replace the ball bearing? And is there a place I can buy a new filter?

Can you tell me where I can get a replacement filter cartridge?

Phil is there a faster way to heat up oil to change it without going through a whole cycle? My oil needs changed but I did not have time to do it before it cooled down. Thank you for your videos.

@Philat4800feet

8 ай бұрын

Just run for 5-10 minutes, but it would be better after a batch run.

What I was asking was: Will instant yeast work in the freeze dried bread dough recipe? I understand that it must come after freeze drying. Thank you for answering me. Libby G.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

It should

my demister came from the HR factory with the little ball check valve packed with epoxy glue rendering it non functional. Why did HR do this???

@Philat4800feet

9 күн бұрын

Unknown. This would keep the oil from draining back into the pump.

Can you clean them if you completely dry them of moisture, and rotate your filters while the other one is drying with a warm fan

@Philat4800feet

8 ай бұрын

Hard to say, the filter medium is thick and dense and already saturated with oil. Water based cleaners may not work and any degreaser could be hard to remove.

Hi. My vacuum pump tipped over and oil got all over inside the oil mist filter. How would you recommend I go about this? I was going to take apart and clean with soap and water but found this video first. Now, I'm not sure what to do.

@Philat4800feet

4 ай бұрын

The filter medium (paper), within the demister, is already saturated with oil from vapor from the pump, and will dip down back into the pump through a little check ball and hole near the threads. If you take the outside covering off you may be able to speed up the removal of oil. Oil and water don't mix and I would advise against washing the medium. Let any excess oil dip away.

My pump has started running hotter than normal and there are flecks of oil in top the pump housing. Would this filter possibly have anything to do with that? Also the vacuum level doesn't get below 400, where it used to get down around 200.

@Philat4800feet

10 ай бұрын

Hard to say. Old oil and cloudy oil (oil mixed with water) won't pull a very good vacuum. What's the room temperature where your pump is located?

@med1pilot1956

10 ай бұрын

@@Philat4800feet room temp about 70°F. With those temps the pump is pushing 175. With a small fan blowing it's around 135. I think I have about five runs since a fresh oil change and it's clear. Vacuum getting no lower than about 445 where before it was high 200's.

I was following your instructions, however, when I looked at the clip and flipped it over, there was no ball bearing in there. Not sure what to do.

@Philat4800feet

6 ай бұрын

The important part is the cap needs to let the oil drain back into the pump.

Hi Phil. I did not use the FD with a premium pump for several months over the summer. Upon first use this early fall the pump ran very hot and there was a hot oil smell throughout the house, which has NOT happened before. (Thankfully no oil mist, as has happened before because I missed replacing a gasket after removing the oil mist filter.) We took apart the filter and noticed the oil had gummed up to a hard consistency in the hole where the pin and ball bearing is located. We replaced the filter with a new one, ran another batch through the FD and had the same problem with the hot oil smell. Could the oil have gunked up inside the pump like it did in the filter? If that is a possibility, can you suggest how I should address that possible problem? Thanks!

@Philat4800feet

9 ай бұрын

If it gummed up the filter, there's a chance it gummed up the pump. How good are your mechanical skills? You might want to watch thai video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ap56qcyEm7K9Y6g.html

@nancy_44

8 ай бұрын

Bugger. Ok. I’ll let you know how it goes!

@lizchattin7016

5 ай бұрын

@@nancy_44 You said you "replaced the filter with a new one". Where did you get a new one? I'm trying to get one for our (Medium Pro) premiere pump.

I have a statndard vacuum pump. Is their a filter or maintenance proceedure for it?

@Philat4800feet

10 ай бұрын

Sorry, no. The standard pump is a hard worker. No information on replacement parts. When it gives up the ghost, move up to the Premier pump. You won't be sorry. I would replace and filter the oil after each batch.

@HardcoreFourSix

10 ай бұрын

Thanks. I am chasing a vacuum problem. It won't hold steady. This is a replacement (at my own expense) pump that HR claimed would fix my problem, but it has not heldped at all. HR has piss poor customer service. I will keep scouring YT and reddit for clues.@@Philat4800feet

My vacuum just stopped its vacuum I can not figure out why I changed the oil twice just to see if it was the oil any suggestions?

@Philat4800feet

Ай бұрын

1. Plug the vacuum pump into a standard 120 VAC outlet 2. Is the switch on? 3. While it's plugged in, with the switch on, wiggle the cord around to see if the cord has an "open". Do you have, and know how to use, an Ohm meter?

I may have missed it, but when does the filter need to be replaced?

@Philat4800feet

3 ай бұрын

Only if it gets really rusted inside due to trapped condensate. Keep it right side up in a bowl when not in use to allow to drain.

Oil in my pump turns milky after every batch. I have a newer free dryer with the upgraded vacuum hose. I also took it apart and resealed all the orifices. What to do?

@Philat4800feet

9 ай бұрын

Milky color is generally water mixing with oil. Some of the moisture in your food is leaving the chamber and entering the pump. Your food needs to be rock hard frozen before the pump turns on. Here are some things you can do: Pre-freeze your food for 24 hours in a freezer. this is a big money saver. Lower your freeze point and add extra freeze time on your menu. Change to Black Gold oil- This oil will help separate the oil from the water What did you take apart???

@AA-sq1xz

9 ай бұрын

@@Philat4800feet thank you for actually answering: Yes I've been prefreezing since day 1. I will check the menu to see how to add extra freeze time and use a different oil. There is known vacuum leak issue with these freeze dryers. Here's a link that explains the simple fix: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i5mB3LGbZ5CTpqQ.html I don't really understand the issue with mine since I've never had an issue with milky oil before.

@Philat4800feet

9 ай бұрын

If you let the milky oil stand for a few days it may clear up. Black Gold does it better.

@AA-sq1xz

9 ай бұрын

@@Philat4800feet I've been changing it every cycle, it didn't use to do it so not sure on the fix.

I got my machine a couple months ago, and they are now filling that area with epoxy or some such, so you cannot even see a ball bearing at all.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Strange

@g.yasuda4792

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feetGot my machine from HR in March 2023 and confirmed w CS that they are now shipping the new pumps with the ball bearing port plugged by epoxy

Phil, I have read stories about rooms full of oil mist. I have read about cleaning the oil mist filter. But what if the mist keeps up? Would rigging up some pipes going to a water separator then piped to the mist filter. Would the water separator trap the mist?

@Philat4800feet

7 ай бұрын

You're not the only one with this problem. There are a few causes. Some simple and some more difficult. Here they are: 1. The internal vacuum pump, within the unit is made up into three sections and doesn't have gaskets. If one of those section is loose the vacuum can draw the oil through a tiny space and atomize the oil into a vapor. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ap56qcyEm7K9Y6g.html 2. Is your gas ballast valve (knob) open? Try running the pump with it closed. 3. Try a different Filter. Navac (Navacglobel.com) has one that will fit the pump. Part number P012005. Go to their website and find a local distributor. 4. Some will put a heavy sock over their pump filter. I hope one of these will help.

@donheggenstaller6416

7 ай бұрын

@@Philat4800feet Phil, I am just trying to be prepared. Ordering my FD today. It will be in the basement. It's to only place with some room in our little house. Wife wouldn't be happy with oil mist in the air. I used to work at a rental place and when people would rent an air compressor they sometimes needed a water separator to take water out of the air. I'm not an engineer, buy I was thinking if i put hard pipe (steel) off of where the mist filter is located to a water separator and then more pipe over to the mist filter, would it take more of the mist out? I know I'd need to make brackets to support everything. Plus I'd need unions so I could disassemble and reassemble everything. Just thinking outside the box. Didn't know if you had ever heard of someone making a contraption to catch additional mist?

@Philat4800feet

7 ай бұрын

Could you use a hose and vent the pump out a window?

@Philat4800feet

7 ай бұрын

Make sure the O-Ring gasket is still on the filter

@donheggenstaller6416

7 ай бұрын

@@Philat4800feet Unfortunately all 3 of my basement windows are ones that tilt in just a little bit. The soil on the outside of the house is right at the very bottom of the window and the other one has a window well around it on the outside. If I opened them and tried to rig a vent to the outside, I may end up with critters getting into the house. I've caught mice in traps around the house. Other critters in catchem alive traps. And I live in town. The skunk was my scariest catch. The basement walls are lined with shelving. There is a space in the middle of the basement, that has cupboards as well and at the end of those is where I was going to set the freeze dryer. At the rental company that I worked, they used a Wilkerson inline water separator. It was just a canister with 3/4" Chicago fittings. I believe it just had baffling on the inside and as the air flowed thru, moisture would deposit on the baffles, flow to the bottom and then you could drain out the bottom. I'm hoping I don't get the dreaded mist, but if I do, I guess I could rearrange the basement. Get a 4" diamond core bit, drill a hole up high through the blocks and make a vent to the outside. That's a lot of work. My FD is ordered, I'll know in a couple of weeks.

so I did get the white part wet but thought it was completely dry when I put it back together. Since doing this I can't be the vacuum test to go below 500 mTorrs it gets close but not under 500. Could this be the reason and is there anything I can do to fix it. Yikes.

@Philat4800feet

10 ай бұрын

I wonder if you have water and oil mixed together. That could be a reason. Have you changed your oil?

@marycanfield1974

10 ай бұрын

I changed the oil when I took the demister apart and I changed it after again before I tried to flush the vacuum as another thing to try and get it to pass the vacuum test. When I try the functional testing ... if I have the freeze on as well as the vacuum it got right down under 500 mtorr but when I just do vacuum it will only get to as low as 536... the last 2 tests were over 700. I am in Ontario Canada... yikes I know. I have a 22 year old son at college who helped me put self-fusing silicon over all the crimped ends and I have unattached and reattached all the hoses. I changed the ball valve which was really rusty and I thought that was the problem. SHould I take the demister apart and leave it out in the sun??? to dry all the water. I did that when I did it the first time and it seemed dry but still oily. I appreciate you getting back to me and I value all your great videos. @@Philat4800feet

@Philat4800feet

10 ай бұрын

@@marycanfield1974 Drying the filter in the sun sounds like a good idea.

@marycanfield1974

10 ай бұрын

I will get the filter out and see if I can get it dried out more. Thanks again. On to Plan H

@marycanfield1974

10 ай бұрын

I went ahead and ran a batch and so far so good ... when I checked this morning the mTorr was 326... so I hope that means it is doing ok

Question to other FD users. My effluent water has oil residue every time I run a batch. The FD food after a few.weeks when opened has a yucky smell to it. Is anyone else seeing this issue?

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like your check valve in your pump may be leaking allowing oil from the pump to be drawn into the vacuum chamber. An aftermarket check valve can be mounted on your pump.

@mrpush2532

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet Well harvest Right would not help me resolve this issue which is poor customer service. Looks like I'll have to go find a check value because they refuse to help me with this issue on a new unit. Thanks.

I could have used this video 6 months ago before I galled up the threads and broke off the little piece that holds that clip

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

I will be coming out with replacement parts info next week.

Wow! They sent you a new LCD when it was out of warranty? They won't even TALK to me about my 4 year old oil free pump until I pay a $45 fee for them to "diagnose" it. I already took it apart and already know what failed. Would love to know who you talked to. Not a very reputable company.

@Philat4800feet

10 ай бұрын

I'll see what I can do

Rebuilding the pump? Think you forgot to mention how you broke it! We've solved one mystery of the odd oil filter, only to be followed-up with another mystery concerning an apparently broken pump! The manufacturer should have documented within the manual, the use of mineral oil and possible scenario of inhaling misting mineral oil, when considering placement of the freeze dryer. The only item mentioned within the user manual, something concerning placing the unit near a sleeping area without any explanation as to why. As such, why some or many opt for placing the freeze drier within the garage. Since I've already purchased expensive shelving for the kitchen, will likely have to follow through and pray the oil misting causes no problems, as us guys tend to sleep on the living room couch. According to the vacuum mineral oil SDS and health hazard category, should have likely mentioned this for older folks! Hopefully it's not as bad as running a 2-cycle chainsaw.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

I understand your concerns. The SDS to consult would be the brand of oil you're using. If it's HR's oil, then it would be Robinair. SDS below: www.robinair.com/sites/default/files/documents/Vacuum%2520Pump%2520Oil%2520SDS%2520552184_0.pdf Section 4 has this statement: ...This material is not expected to cause inhalation-related disorders under anticipated conditions of use... Section 11 has this statement: Inhalation Avoid breathing vapors or mists. Section 2 states: This chemical does not meet the hazardous criteria set forth by the 2012 OSHA Hazard Communication Standard (29 CFR1910.1200). This means OSHA is not concerned with the use of this chemical in the workplace and long term employee exposure is not an issue. I don't think there's an issue unless you have COPD or other major health problems. Consult your doctor if you do. With all this said, I think you'll be just fine.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Oh, and the pump? I didn't break it. It was a defective return back to HR from a customer. I asked HR for it so I could play around with it.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Check out this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ap56qcyEm7K9Y6g.html

@rogerxxxxxxx

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet Well, that is exactly what I concluded based on the information alone that the Harvest Right's vacuum oil (mineral oil) SDS claimed "Categary 5" health concern. (May have been one of the other generic mineral oil SDS sheets, cannot recall exactly.) Reading the footnotes on that section as specified within the section, seemed to indicate elderly or those with health concerns could possibly have a (breathing/sensitivity) problem. The reason why mineral oil falls into the Category 5 health concern, assuming from the foot notes, the product likely caused serious harm however was ruled-out from being within a higher category due to nonspecific other reasons. Had I known all this, I probably would have ordered/purchased the smaller unit, for significantly easier ability for moving/relocating as needed, as well as easier for placing upon a shelf! OSHA is work/occupational related safety related measures, similar EPA noise dBA/dBC scales, opinions/statements can likely be weighted towards the commercial sector, and/or vice versa. From what I know of OSHA, they tend to be far more strict. Reading further into the mineral oil SDS data/hazards, there are upper/lower limits mentioned. In my opinion, as I previously mentioned or joked, symptoms would likely be similar to using a chainsaw using 2-cycle gas/oil mixture, but having far less affect, as the chainsaw is burning the gas/oil, whereas the vacuum pump is slightly warming/heating the oil. Probably not a good idea for resting your head next to the vacuum pump while running, and I'm also thinking of placing a fan on the pump for slightly cooling the casing, without knowing the trade-off as now I'm pushing air over the pump filter condoning a slight negative air pressure around the filter. Shrugs... guess I'll find out if it stinks up my house soon though... This reminds me of the toy train smoke, but again, the toy train stuff is designed to smoke, whereas vacuum oil is far likely not designed to reach smoke point.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

@@rogerxxxxxxx Fan idea is good. If your garage is somewhat insulated and can stay below 80 degrees, that would be a good location for the freeze dryer.

Were you able to find the replacement part number? 10:18

@DeannaHerald

10 ай бұрын

Found it on your other video! Navac P012005

@Philat4800feet

10 ай бұрын

@@DeannaHerald Harvest Right #OOP-005 $37.54

HR service is the worst I have ever dealt with. Three job tickets, on the same problem and they failed to respond all three times.

@Philat4800feet

Жыл бұрын

Is it working now? Anything I can do to help?

@Auggies1956

Жыл бұрын

@@Philat4800feet I really need the wiring schematic for the module terminals on the back (Screen attaches). Two black wires off the vacuum switch connect to male spade connectors, there are six on the module. The small white plastic plug with fine wires from the vacuum switch plugs into a printed circuit board, the circuit board is numbered with four female plugs. Only one plug is needed. I need to know where they reconnect to. Here are the numbers of the machine. BOM. AL21012016 TS. SER# =117AL1TS-11406-TL. Can you direct me to this schematic by chance? No luck on the net. This all started with a vacuum leak in the pipe teen on the vacuum chamber. I put thread tape on the leak, but since I'm not sure where these wires go, the vacuum reading never changes, no matter where I put the wires.Thanks