Clearly my dyslexia got me on that Katie Bell being moved to the hospital line. Sorry about that one!

@Embetebe

4 жыл бұрын

Even if it did say she had left *from* St Mungo's then there still wouldn't have been an inconsistency as the line would have only stated she had left the hospital - the line wouldn't have stated she had gone straight back to Hogwarts. Hence later when Ron and Harry are talking about her not returning, narratively speaking she could have been recovering at home for a week before returning at a later date at Hogwarts.

@amanekabbaj

4 жыл бұрын

Embetebe which she had right? She told them later that she had spent time at home.

@ms.honiqualisha4529

4 жыл бұрын

So Lord Voldemort would have been around 16 years and 7 months old at the time. The power of the spell would have been waning. As well as the factor of they only know magic was cast not the caster. As well the killing curse being so advanced that Moody once say the whole of the 4th year class in the room at the time could cast it and he would not get a bloody nose. So to a magical law person it would not be with in reason to suspect a beraly 17 year old wizard to be the one to cast it. The cave would not reconize harry's magic as he was still underage. So harry could probally use some minor spells once they were at the water.

@davidwilson6577

4 жыл бұрын

@@ms.honiqualisha4529 regarding the efficacy of the unforgivable curses, we're told that it's related to the sincerity of the caster. Moody's right that the class' curses wouldn't harm him, but that's because they wouldn't actually want to murder him. When it comes to the ministry's perspective it seems pretty naive of them to assume an underage person couldn't have the conviction necessary when they have no information about the situation. They might be sceptical but they wouldn't, or rather shouldn't, rule out the possibility off-hand.

@Giondi

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidwilson6577 The Ministry's incompetence was a major theme throughout the series, especially the latter half. They had a confession and, just like with Sirius, they went the easy way instead of investigating further.

I've just came to the conclusion that the wizard world's justice system is awful.

@manonthemoon692

4 жыл бұрын

The muggle justice system is awful too

@abbys6260

4 жыл бұрын

I know. And I don't know if she was intentionally showing how prejudice, position, and connections effect justice or if it was just plot holes.

@JSKETCHthebest

4 жыл бұрын

Lol you just noticing this now

@Begeru

4 жыл бұрын

Even in the muggle world just a confession isn’t enough to convict someone of a crime if theres no evidence nor motive. And confessions can be recanted.

@sualtam9509

4 жыл бұрын

@@Begeru When Voldemort changed Morphin's memories, he could also implant a motive. It's not so unbelievable that a known anti-social, muggle hating likely practioner of dark arts would kill a muggle that "seduced" his daughter. The teenager who was coincidentaly around when it happened is odd, but we don't know which distance a minor must have to a spell to trigger the ministry. Maybe just walking past the house is enough.

Slughorn was carrying all that potion because he was selling it illegally as a side hustle

@t.e.650

4 жыл бұрын

It was made by Snape and he just pretended he made it! But don't ask me why Snape isn't a luckier person in that case... maybe he likes like he lives more than we think and made it for academic reasons ;-)

@ErimlRGG

4 жыл бұрын

also he could be carrying it to escape multiple times if he had to. I don't know about you but I would take my chances with the severe side effects against being dead or tortured by Voldemort

@noone9472

4 жыл бұрын

He also could have just bought it in a store once at Hogwarts

@GayAnnabeth

4 жыл бұрын

or Snape was already making it for the purpose Slughorn uses it for

@maqpi8335

4 жыл бұрын

Slughorn is basically heisenberg without cancer :p

On vanishing charms: “Where do vanished objects go?" "Into nonbeing, which is to say, everything," replied Professor McGonagall. (Book 7)

@noone9472

4 жыл бұрын

Enri Skywalker so they killed the frogs they vanished :/

@milkismurder

4 жыл бұрын

So poop goes everywhere

@Trainwheel_Time

4 жыл бұрын

Well... that explains it....

@lexilala1968

4 жыл бұрын

@@noone9472 That's not exactly the worst thing they do to animals at Hogwarts, is it?

@rebeccathegachatuber3040

5 ай бұрын

Immediately thought of this when she said that

"I just like physically reading books." Same here

@pretendtheresaname9213

4 жыл бұрын

I feel disconnected with the book if I'm reading e-books or listening to audiobooks.

@yessir.7937

4 жыл бұрын

@@pretendtheresaname9213 I really tried with audiobooks... but it's not for me. I barely take in anything. I go on a walk for 30-60 minutes most evenings and audio books seemed perfect for it, but I had to read summaries of chapters to ever realize what was going on. I just stick to physical books... with the library it's dirt cheap as well anyways :)

@nikithaanil9160

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah same with me too

@Letoh32

4 жыл бұрын

Here too. It was even harder for me to sometimes know how some names have to be pronounced because i read Harry Potter in French, and those names aren't translated (well... because you just can't translate "Trelawney" i guess) So yeah... i had to wait untill the movies came out to know it and (way later on) to understand it when i started to learn english (cause i was a kid back then) :p

@DaneofHalves

4 жыл бұрын

I like to read things myself. Audio feels....well, not for me.

I think trace and serum are major instances of "JKR didn't think this through" :D

@robertofontiglia4148

4 жыл бұрын

The Trace is definitely a major clusterfuck of nonesense. Like "Oh, we put it on every wizarding child, but for an overwhelming majority of them it serves no purpose because they live with magical parents who keep setting it off for no reason." -- What the actual fuck ? Why even have it in the first place ? And then it works very inconsistently through the books, too.

@Tomgd420

4 жыл бұрын

Yea the only way to look at the "Trace" is vicinity of but that doesn't work due to parents..... Spell by someone not of age doesn't work either because Dobby. Unless we look at it as magic by an unauthorized individual?

@Dormazain

4 жыл бұрын

@UCCPVdbdDJ1eeQ6sPEljZ1lQ That is very unlikely since Harry casted a patronus further away from Privet Drive in book 5 and the trace went off.

@JonPITBZN

4 жыл бұрын

The trace is just a metaphor for systemic racism. Muggle-born students don't get to practice magic during the summer, which just makes it even harder for them to transition into the wizarding world.

@Dormazain

4 жыл бұрын

@@JonPITBZN I really think for not one single second JKR had any thought like this in mind. She might claim she had now, because "systemic racism" would be a huge buzzword for her, but if that was her idea, any half-sentence in the books would have been like "...while Ron got to practice over summer..." which it didn't. It is rather shown that wizard's children aren't allowed to perform magic either, since Fred and George celebrate it a lot to cast spells once they turned 17.

A dear author suggestion. Things protagonist do that we dislike.

@bernardoblanchetramirez6032

4 жыл бұрын

I see your point, but it would make it harder for us to follow them.

Harry, who is polyamorous, was able to get Dumbledore to safety by relying on his mermaid lovers. You don't see them because they deserve privacy.

@ravenevermore7338

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@uptown3636

4 жыл бұрын

Alex, please put the nsfw fan fiction down and step away. 😉

@alexmarkadonis7179

4 жыл бұрын

@@uptown3636 I expect Rowling to come out with that one day. She likes to fill plot holes with vapid virtue signals that amount to other plot holes.

@h.b.2003

4 жыл бұрын

😂

@Bull-me8tz

4 жыл бұрын

This... this is not a sentence I ever wanted to read

Katie was like “Oop, guess I’m out of the hostpial.” *gets magically teleported back there* Katie: throws hands up in frustration

What if Snape had been brewing those potions in preparation for that class and slughorn just used his "stash". Cuz Snape didn't know he was getting the DADA post until month before start of term

@hannahsonnenburg7718

4 жыл бұрын

That would also explain why the potions are so well done but I think slughorn says during class that he prepared the potions himself.

@couch.patati-patata

4 жыл бұрын

Gnargles. Or is it knargles?

@annikoho7375

4 жыл бұрын

Or maybe Slughorn had planned to sell the potion? To earn a large chunk of money with one delivery and then change safe houses again so that he could not be tracked?

@pederotterson4119

4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree!

@drogadepc

4 жыл бұрын

Snape would never lend his stuff to anyone.

Funny, it's my favorite book in the series and my least favorite movie in the series. All they had to do was cut back on their love lives and give Tom Riddle more screen time. Ending the movie with Dumbledore's funeral would have also been a great way to end it. And if they had just done those few things, this could have been the best movie along with the best book.

@D0MiN0ChAn

4 жыл бұрын

Also, why the hell did they show death eaters *burning down* the burrow?! This still makes me mad after all these years!

@darrenfreyauthor

4 жыл бұрын

@@D0MiN0ChAn I think they did that for dramatic effect, but you're right, It made no sense. Even then, The way Arthur said his wife's name made it sound like she was going to be in the house and then they suddenly show her the next shot. It was very lazy writing. I mean since they were going to botch it. Anyway, they should have just left the Death Eaters out all together and used the opportunity to let Harry and Ginny have their first kiss there instead of the room of requirement. Their relationship was so damn awkward And rammed down our throats. I will give Ron and Hermione's drama a pass, but Even that was annoying when this was supposed to be Voldemort's story and he was robbed. Harry and Ginny's Entire relationship was awkward, almost as awkward as Ron and Hermione finally kissing.

@shawnn7502

4 жыл бұрын

Favorite book of the series. Agreed that the movie was disappointing, though still good. The Tom Riddle flashbacks were the most boring part of the book. I would like to have seen and read more about Harry and Ginny, personally.

@darrenfreyauthor

4 жыл бұрын

@@shawnn7502 all the Tom Riddle backstory was what made Half Blood Prince so much fun for me. There were a lot of other factors as well, such as How Disturbing Dumbledore's reaction actually was when he drank the potion in the cave compared to the book. As well as he and Harry getting back into Hogwarts. And again, Dumbledore's funeral. The funeral was so beautifully written in the book and there was no reason why that should have been excluded from the movie. Not only would it have made a better place to actually end the movie, but it would have given everyone a chance to say goodbye to one of our favorite characters properly.

@Amcsae

4 жыл бұрын

Also, they could have remembered to light the set so you could see what the heck is going on! I get that the tone is dark and all, but it was almost impossible to see the scenes at times. That seems to be happening in several movies these days.

Hermione was carrying around a whole library, a camping set and a closet full of clothes for 3 people during their roadtrip in 7th book all in that little bag of hers. I can imagine Slughorn lugging at least 10 cauldrons full of handy potions in a similar bag/trunk at all times lol

@judegrindvoll8467

4 жыл бұрын

nightowl And Newt Scamsnder lugs around a whole safari park 🦁 🐅 🦒 😂

@Voltorb1993

4 жыл бұрын

@@judegrindvoll8467 magic is just amazing XD

I can believe that Slughorn would have a cauldron full of the Liquid Luck brewing because I bet, if he makes it well, he probably sells it to people. That’s just the kind of person he is. He likes to make a quick buck selling things.

@laurentalevski

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think he had a cauldron full of liquid luck wasn't it just the vial, there was only 3 cauldrons. Veritaserum, Amortentia and Polyjuice Potion.

@jawstrock2215

4 жыл бұрын

@@laurentalevski I think it said 4(too lazy to get my book and check), in the movie I think it's only 3 + the vial

@laurentalevski

4 жыл бұрын

Jaws Trock I checked it was 3

@alexman378

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Not only is it in character for him, it also just makes sense. He’s on the run, and he can’t have a constant money flow, why wouldn’t he have a stock of something so valuable and time consuming to be able to sell it immediately?

@avanishdutta2658

3 жыл бұрын

@@laurentalevski He was retired. He must have brewed liquid luck and sold it to the people. I think the vial was the last of what he brewed before taking the position of teaching potions in hogwarts. Are there any pension plans for the teachers in hogwarts? Just asking. I mean, how will they spend their life without money after retiring, sure they must have deposits in gringotts, but they must earn some pension.

Next up: Harry Potter & the Joys of Camping.

@markamashov

4 жыл бұрын

More like Harry Potter & The Final Battle that ends with 2 spells

@uptown3636

4 жыл бұрын

Ugh! Don’t remind me. In my mind, HP ends on a cliffhanger at the end of HBP.

@TheMiels

4 жыл бұрын

uptown3636 that would be very frustrating. Without knowing Snapes true motivations

@ignertz

4 жыл бұрын

@@uptown3636 sigh i hate people like Why do you not think the last book exists

@uptown3636

4 жыл бұрын

ignertz simple lesson on manners, maybe don’t tell people you hate people like them. Not a fun way to start a conversation. About Deathly Hallows, I like certain aspects, but I miss the hogwarts setting. The bleak tone is more depressing than exciting (in my opinion). And the resolution was less than satisfying for me. I really liked the infiltration of the ministry and gringotts, but book 7 just wasn’t my cup of butterbeer. I’m glad you like it, though, and I wish I liked it too.

At 8:22 it says "Katie was removed TO St. Mungo's Hospital" not from so the narative makes sense IMO. As I understand she is removed from Hogwarts to St. Mungo's from which she later in the books still hadn't returned from

@bobmortimerisweird

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and even if it did say "from" instead of "to", the sentence in the next chapter could mean Katie still hasn't returned to Hogwarts after being removed from St. Mungo's. She is in transit.

@uptown3636

4 жыл бұрын

Agnete1994, good eye. You’re spot on.

@ferniecom-go8ig

3 жыл бұрын

I scrolled too far to find this comment. I’m glad someone pointed this out!

@DanyLassard

3 жыл бұрын

yes!!!! I was looking for this comment! It wasn't an inconsistency, it is clear that at the next day she was removed FROM Hogwarts TO St mungo's

I've always wondered how three children under the age of ten could have gotten to this remote, dangerous location, and how after two of them were traumatized there they all still somehow got back safely.

@chingizzhylkybayev8575

4 жыл бұрын

Who? When?

@megrich2106

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve always wondered the same! So my explanation was that there was an easy way to get there when Riddle was a boy, but severe storms over the years eroded that away. Seems plausible, I guess?

@alexman378

3 жыл бұрын

@@megrich2106 It also seems possible that the area was cursed afterwards. Similarly to what Voldemort did with the Defense Against the Dark Arts teaching position.

@rexstil99

2 жыл бұрын

In the book it said Voldemort made the rocks easy to navigate with magic where most people wouldn’t be able to get to the cave

@junior523

2 жыл бұрын

I've got a funny explanation. So we all know that Tom was a parsel mouth right? I bet he called on a bunch of pythons and anacondas (you know really kind snakes) to bite each other's tails and create a really long rope that the kids used as safety ropes to go down the mountain slope. Voldemort then fiddles with the kids minds and after sight seeing the snakes pulled them all up and boom. Called it a day

Dumbledore "swam??" through the water with his wand in his mouth with lumos on. So you can use magic outside of the cave. I suppose Harry could have used the spell Sirius used to carry Snape out of the Shrieking Shack. So Harry would only have to drag Dumbledore from the middle of the Island to the boat, sail over the pond in the boat and drag him out of the cave. He is also able to use magic in the cave, he is magically drying Harrys clothes in there and still has lumos on his wand, and he burns the inferi after he wakes up. Harry can't use aquamenti on the bowl with the horcrux, because the bowl is enchanted. Sorry for my spelling errors i'm from scandinavia.

I guess the ministry detected magic when Harry did it because he was The ONLY underage wizard at 4 private drive so it was easy to blame him if any magic happened around this region.

@drlc6051

4 жыл бұрын

And the Patronus incident was close to Privet Drive, so we don't actually know how specific the Ministry's magic GPS is. Riddle House may have been close enough to the Gaunt's place that it would register

Where do vanished things go? "Into non-being, which is to say, everything." McGonagall answers this question to.get into the Ravenclaw common room next book 😊 just in case you were interested.

My question is why is the Avada Kedavra curse so easy to perform. Like we see students struggling to learn regular spells in their classes...like they don’t get it on the first few times...screw it up (except...well of course Hermione because she’s a genius), but somehow the Killing Curse is so easy to execute that we see different underaged characters trying to perform it or using it on instances with such ease throughout the books. Shouldn’t it be a little difficult to kill someone and require a lot of ‘practice’ to do?

@MrRys

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it's easy to use, but when you are a psychopath that really wants to kill, it will work easily... like when harry used crucio on belatrix, but it wasn't very strong and she told him that he must truly mean it for it to work

I feel like we see a little more of Harry’s Slytherin side in this book. Many people have already pointed out multiple times that harry would be a good fit for Slytherin (including the sorting hat) and he is extremely sassy, determined and sarcastic in this book. Sadly a little more mean too. I personally loved to read the potions classes and the story behind the horcruxes. My favourite book by far.

@xMRxZEROx

4 жыл бұрын

That's the thing though. Harry didn't really have a "Slytherin side". As has been confirmed by JK Rowling, when Harry first wore the sorting hat and it made the comments about him doing well in Slytherin and considering placing him there, it's becuase of that piece of Voldemort's soul in him. The hat was reading that piece of Tom Riddle that had infected Harry's body and therefore his personality. It explains all the struggles and anger Harry felt. Not that some of it wasn't justified. But still. He never really had a Slytherin side to him. Just a bit of Slytherin soul hitching a ride. 😂

@roshnirana2098

4 жыл бұрын

It was always said that but I think there is a part of him that actually has those attributes as well he can be very short tempered

@GnipMuffin

4 жыл бұрын

@@roshnirana2098 Being short-tempered is not a very Slytherin trait, but definitely a passionate Gryffindor one - it would be counter-intuitive to constantly fly off the handle at a moment's notice when you are carefully and quietly scheming in the background - not very cunning at all; a Slytherin would never see the use in it. We Slytherins prefer to save up our resentments and deal them out in due course.

@annasporrong4845

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair (the way I remember it) the Sorting Hat just argued he'd fit in with Slytherin when Harry started freaking out after already being biased against them 'cause of what Ron told him about them and he hated Malfoy's attitude straight away... We don't know if he would've chosen Slytherin for Harry either way

@xMRxZEROx

4 жыл бұрын

@Feänor Elèssar To say it simpler. Harry himself didn't have Slytherin qualities. He had a piece of Voldemort's soul in him that made him SEEM to have Slytherin qualities. But without that bit of soul in him, Harry didn't have those qualities.

”Things that vanish go into non-being, which is to say, everywhere.”

I haven’t read this book in a long while but didn’t Dumbledore also say that he couldn’t use Veritaserum to get information from Slughorn because he wanted him to give it freely. He wanted to keep Slughorn around at Hogwarts so didn’t want to use tricks to get him to spill secrets or any method that may offend him in some way and make him leave.

@andrewwahba5006

4 жыл бұрын

He believed that Slughorn would be carrying an antidote as he's been super suspicious the whole book

@auguschm

4 жыл бұрын

We can add all the excuses we want but the truth is Veritaserum doesn't really make sense and it should've never been used or at least it should've been explained better.

Vanished objects apparently go into non-being, which is to say, everything. (Source: McGonagall, in book 7.) Maybe he bought/borrowed the potion/s from another Potions Master just for display purposes? I'm not sure JKR explicitly stated that Slughorn himself brewed the potion/s.

@Predated2

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps it was a final year project for an advanced potions class, one that finished correctly being put together during the finals, and then taking 6 months to fully brew, meaning it would be finished by the time the next schoolyear starts

@taylor_green_9

4 жыл бұрын

It could've been brewed by Snape for unrelated reasons and then borrowed by Slughorn. It is also possible that Slughorn was indeed brewing it while on the run so he could keep a vial of Felix for an emergency

I have no problem believing that even the teenage version of the most clever and powerful dark lord of all time could foresee the trace issue and devise a magical method to overcome it. It's a good point to raise, but I believe Voldemort simply outwitted the Ministry during this teenage killing spree/coverup.

@gabriellebrown1480

4 жыл бұрын

ShadowDogProduction and maybe this was why the trace was instituted?

@imperium3556

4 жыл бұрын

@@gabriellebrown1480 Riddle was never caught during all this (hence the need for Dumbledore's detective work), so that can't be the reason. But maybe the old Trace was somehow easy to circumvent (or didn't exist), and once enough young people got caught, they decided to bring in a stronger Trace.

@sirus13019

4 жыл бұрын

Trace is always easy to get around because the ministry never knows who uses the magic only if its cast near an underage wizard

@PhilBagels

4 жыл бұрын

There is so much incompetence (and corruption) in the ministry, that outwitting them can't be all that hard.

@Tomgd420

4 жыл бұрын

MrBubbles Yea it's basically a something happened by someone. Like red light tickets in the US....

Two things I’d like to add, not specifically about this book. Apparating isn’t consistent across the series. Sometimes it’s described as a loud crack unless the situation calls for quiet and then it’s a faint pop. Moving on to splinching in book 2(?) Arthur is talking about it and everyone shudders. Then in this book one girl does it in practice and it’s more of a funny situation, she’s hooping on one leg and they fix her immediately. In book 7 when Ron does it’s back to being a really bad thing and he can’t travel for days. I’ve never seen anybody talk about those two thing and I wondered why. I love the series but even as an adult they are above my reading level so I would never have made it through them without the audiobooks. And I tried I really tried I “read” all of them but I didn’t realize just how much I didn’t comprehend until I listened to the audiobooks as an adult.

@xMRxZEROx

4 жыл бұрын

@@robertschmobert1 Exactly. That's how I see it as well. It's the same with all magic. Everyone has their own style and ability level. One person's patronus is just silver vapor, anothers is a full fledged corporeal patronus with a full form. And I assume in regards to apparating that it also depends on where you're going and how far it is. It intent is also a factor behind it. Kind of like closing a door. You can shut it lightly or you can slam it. And yes, as far as splinching I think everyone just shuttered because I imagine it can be a painful thing depending on what part gets splinched. And there were professional trainers and experienced wizards there to help the kids if it happened. When Ron got splinched all they had on hand was some Dittany I believe.

@ooi97

4 жыл бұрын

even if apparating makes a sound of a set volume, it can be described differently depending on the surroundings. In a loud crowd it would be barely heard, in an empty cave it should be echoing thunder. And unless you can magically control the sound, you are stuck with trying to mute the sound physically. I don't know what the source of the sound is. It is the air being pushed away? or is it just some sound coming out of your gut? then you could mute it using clothes. otherwise you're screwed

@PirateParadox

4 жыл бұрын

Also, if they could have gone back to #12 Grimmauld Place they could have used magic to replace the piece of Ron that was cut from him. They could not go back, though. In the apparition practice room any missing body parts were in the room with them to quickly reattach!

@kristen1684

4 жыл бұрын

you're a grown ass adult and using audiobooks because your brain can't comprehend the series? Im 14 and I finished the deathly hallows less than an hour ago and I fully got everything. You're making it seem like it's some advanced scientific shit when it's not

@Rapeliina

4 жыл бұрын

@@kristen1684 Hello Kristen. You should look up what dyslexia means. For some people reading or comprehending what they just read doesn't come as easy and naturally as it does for most people. It doesn't mean these people are stupid, they just learn things differently than you.

Another thing. You'd think the ministry would have a way to detect memory charms given how common they are in the books.

I just like to imagine the series semi-addressing the plot holes when Harry or anyone else asks about them. Harry: "But Professor Dumbledore, didn't Voldemort have the Trace on him when he killed his father? How does that work?" Dumbledore: "Damn it Harry, the Trace works when it wants to work! Okay? Now we haven't got more time for interruptions..."

I see three possibilities with Slughorn and Felix Felicis. The first is that he simply bought it. The second is that Snape already had some in storage or already being brewed at Hogwarts for teaching purposes. The third, and I think more likely, is that he was carrying it with him. Like you said, it was a whole cauldron, but we have seen bigger-on-the-inside magic (timelord technology, if you will) before in this magic world. It seems completely plausible that they have a system for transporting whole cauldron-loads of potion around, otherwise it seems a lot would go to waste. Additionally, we know Slughorn to be a collector or valuable and praise-worthy things, so I could see him having the lucky potion with him, even if he didn't plan to actually drink it.

@drogadepc

4 жыл бұрын

Snape would never lend his stuff to anyone else including his stock of potions and ingredients. Considering how Slughorn had to be on the go all the time, moving from one place to another I doubt he had time to brew the Felix Felicis unless he did it way before he had to run from Death Eaters.

@SchwaAlvarez95

4 жыл бұрын

@@drogadepc What I am saying is that its possible he brewed it before he had to run from the Death Eaters, and kept it around, since he loved to keep special things like that in a collection. And since magic bags that are bigger on the inside exist, it wouldn't be that hard to transfer from place to place. I agree that Snape would not have lent his stuff out, but that its a small possibility, idk. I still think the third possibility is the most likely

@hectorrobertocontrerasmiranda

4 жыл бұрын

Slugg could also just have presented in class a fake potion and before handing out the final vial just switch it for the real thing. He could have even given Harry a completely fake potion and all its effects were just placebo. I don't see it being beyond him to get away with a few fakes here and there if he already has fame as already having the best of everything which means no one would suspect him or dare to publicly contradict him

It’s been ages since I read Harry Potter-so take this with a grain of salt-butI can think of two reasons why the trace wasn’t effective when Voldemort killed his family: 1.) He’s the future “most dangerous dark wizard of all time” and took countermeasures against being traced (lazy answer). 2.) The trace did work, but no one was monitoring it (Voldemort) closely. Let me explain: in the instances regarding Harry, at that point, Harry was arguably the most important wizard in the world (or at least the European portion of it) and was definitely the most important underage wizard as far as the Ministry of Magic was concerned. So, it is likely that Harry’s trace was under constant, active surveillance, which is why the MoM knew exactly when, where, and how Harry broke wizarding law and was thus able to respond so promptly. Voldemort, on the other hand, was a talented only an extremely talented and charismatic student at Hogwarts when he killed his parents, and although he undoubtedly had the trace, and despite what others in the Ministry might have thought Of his promise at the time, I doubt he was a high priority subject at that point in his life-certainly nowhere near as important as Harry ever would be during his childhood-and was thus not an underage wizard worthy of active surveillance. I would guess, then, that even though Young Tom triggered his trace, by killing his father, it likely did little more than set off a general alarm rather than a high alert, or, at the least, by the time a ministry wizard noticed much of the specific information the trace recorded of the event had likely been brushed aside by other instances of underage magic also triggering their own alerts shortly thereafter. Put simply, Tom wasn’t very important yet, and the Ministry can only closely monitor so many underage wizards at one time with the number of wizards available to them.

@monkeygoesbananas

2 жыл бұрын

Also I dont think the ministry's incompetence can discounted. lazy police work happens. Morphin and his family were known bigots and criminals and had a history of attacking the Riddles - it's not that crazy for the cops to immediately make the connection and consider the case "open and shut" regardless of whatever else was going on in the area at the time.

Re: The Trace It is entirely possible that the way the trace worked in Tom Riddle's day and in Harry Potter's day are completely different and not directly comparable. My guess is that prior to Tom Riddle the trace was simply to make sure teenager wizards weren't blowing themselves up with magic but once Tom Riddle turned evil the ministry thought it might be better to keep a closer track on all child wizards in case they showed signs of being Tom Riddle version 2.0. It might be why the ministry was slow to work out what Tom was up to. Of course, it is entirely possible too that considering Harry's well known back story, that the ministry is purposely keeping a closer eye on any extra curriculum activities.

@drogadepc

4 жыл бұрын

Or the Ministry is incompetent when J. K needs it to be.

@matthewfinis6723

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think the trace is attached specifically to people, moreso areas? That's why Harry gets charged with Dobbys crimes and stuff, because the ministry detects that magic is used in the area and there is only one known wizard in that area. It's said that it doesn't apply in wizarding villages because there are also adult wizards there, so it's up to the parents to keep their children in check.

@matthewfinis6723

4 жыл бұрын

She goes on to explain why the trace isn't on the house, no that's because it's on the larger area like little winging

@matthewfinis6723

4 жыл бұрын

The ministry would have known there was magic in the riddle house, and given the gaunt's history and LOCATION they would have been suspected to have performed it, since there are no other wizarding families closer to the scene

@Predated2

4 жыл бұрын

Well, I think it's a bit different though, I think it has more to do with Grindelwald's war. Why do I think so? 1. Tom Riddle was under The Trace from 1926-1943. 2. Grindelwald was defeated in 1945. Besides, that is assuming that The Trace was indeed altered. Considering Tom's Uncle was in Tom's Vicinity and Tom's Uncle's Wand had cast all the spells. Since there is a spell that allows you to track spells used, with the fact that his Uncle truly believed to have been doing those things. You simply have a murder weapon, that is owned by someone and that someone truly believes that he used said murder weapon to murder people. Sure, there are some other questionable things, but if someone confesses having used a murder weapon that they own, would you really suspect the 15 year old to have brainwashed their own uncle?

I get so excited every time you post one of these videos. I like every one of them before even watching 😂

I have been waiting for this video! Thank you a lot!

I think it was mentioned that an antidote to veritaserum existed in the Harry Potter universe. That would explain why it would be unreliable to use on Slughorn or on a accused at a trial. It would also explain why it would work on Barty Jr. It would also explain why Dolores seemed to believe that it would work on Harry Potter in book 5 when Dolores asked a vial from Snape in front of Harry after he was caught in her fireplace.

Literally 4:46AM where I live and I have no issue with waking up to watch these videos as soon as I can!! Love your perspective!

One thing that always got me is why when harry was at aragog's funeral Hagrid said he never had much to do with Slughorn, when Riddle and Hagrid went to Hogwarts at the same time, you have potions at least your first 5 years. Also when Hagrid got expelled from Hogwarts he was allowed to stay on as gamekeeper, in Harry's firs 2 years Hagrid still ate in the great hall with the teachers at meals. Would Hagrid not have had plenty of interactions with Slughorn before Slughorn retired.

I love all your videos!!!😊 Thank you. Was so happy this morning when seeing the title of your video😊❤ I love to hear you talk about harry potter😍

I love your Harry Potter doesn’t make sense series. They are a great episode by episode follow up to each of your reviews of the series. It’s great to be able to see the flaws in something you love, and yet still love it anyway.

If memories could be modified wouldnt that make confessions unreliable and they should know that

Thanks for the video, I have been a fan ever since I stumbled upon your channel

For once I had actually finished this book before you uploaded the video ! Makes me so happy 🤣

My favorite book in the whole series. It was such a breath of fresh air after two extremely dark chapters in the story.

"Where does vanished objects go?" that's a quote from book seven and McGonagall answers that question

Wow Merphy!!!!!! You are really close to 100k subscribers! Congratulations 🎊🎉

My favourite part of this video is when you throw the book up into the frame 0:02 So smooth :3

Got a head canon on the potions for Slughorn, Snape was brewing the batch we saw for his 6th year and when he got promoted to DADA professor he gave the finished potion's to Slughorn

Was just wondering the other day when you were going to do the final 2 books. Thanks for making my morning!

Regarding Slughorn's felix felicis, the only thing that makes sense to me is that he bought the potion. Surely teachers can get funds from Hogwarts to buy things they need for lessons (i.e Professor Sprout is probably buying plants, like the mandragoras, for her classes using the school's funds). And I can't imagine there not being brewed potions on sale in the market. Not every wizard is good at potion making, and some wizards are excellent at it, so it's only logical that some of them open potions shops where you can buy small flasks or even an entire cauldron, and they're probably brewing stuff all the time.

I love how you come up with really original ideas for things that don't make sense! I'm not sure if anyone else has commented this, but if you're interested in how to pronounce Felix Felicis, in the movies, it's feel-ix fel-ees-is.

So excited to see you hit 100k!! Your channel is growing so fast!! I'm so happy you're getting bigger because you clearly deserve it! Your love for books and discussions is precious. I still can't believe you agreed to review my Novel! See you at 100k!

Did anyone else love the dissapparation training in this book, when one of the students (can't remember which) closed his eyes, turned in a circle inside his hoop and did a sort of pirouette jump into the other hoop without realising it and thought he'd managed to dissapperate until he looked over and saw (I think) Seamus laughing at him

Liked and subbed because I need more Merph in my suggested vids.

Even though there’s all these videos plot holes in Harry Potter is still live this series, I really enjoy listening to the audiobooks when I’m falling asleep at night. There’s something about Jim. Dale’s voice that’s very soothing

The other potions too took a long time to brew. Hermione took half the term to make Polyjuice potion. The book does say the Felix Felicis cauldron was a small one, bubbling merrily. Maybe small quantities can be brewed sooner.

The Super Carlin Brothers have a video where they theorize that the Felix Felicies is a placebo

In the book the ministry knew it was Morphin because I think they monitor an area like a city. because earlier at Harry’s hearing someone mentioned that they only have a record of one wizard in Harry’s area Of Little Whingeing. which is why they didn’t know about Mrs. Figg.

If Voldy's uncle Morfin was a powerful wizard you could call him Mighty Morfin.

How I understand the Trace to work is that it is placed on the individual (and most likely linked to where that individual lives) and only activates when the child starts schooling. The Trace is also basically useless in wizarding families because the wizards and witches in that family overpowers the child's magic and thus the Ministry will not know who really did the magic. With Voldemort, what I understand is that he disarmed his uncle Morfin and then used Morfin's wand to kill the Riddle's (thus when the Ministry check Morfin's wand to determine the last spell used they will see that he used the Killing Curse). Then Voldemort used his own wand to change Morfin's memories and let him believe that he killed the Riddles. And since Voldemort was in a wizarding house (i.e. The Gaunt residence) the Ministry would not have picked up on underage magic being used.

Half Blood Prince is one of my two favorite books in the series. It makes me wonder, however, how many re-reads Merphy has done to see the plot inconsistencies. I mean, good work on it Merph! This takes a lot of effort to do, and never I see myself doing it. I am a character-driven bookworm; therefore, I don't remember much about the plot once I finished reading.

Katie was removed TO the hospital, not "from"

Some things in Half Blood Prince that are pretty minor, but kind of amusing: 1) The cost for apparition lessons was 13 galleons, per student. A Wand costs 7 galleons.The omnioculars in Goblet of Fire cost 10 galleons each which neither Ron, nor Hermione could afford in their dreams. Perhaps this is the cost of all the lessons put together, but keep in mind these are fulll-time students at a borading school. What student, other than Harry, and maybe some wealthy Slytherins, would have that kind of money lying around. Wouldn't apparition lessons be part of school fees, so paid for by the students' parents? 2) We're expected to believe that the Gryffindor Quidditch team haven't finished last (out of four) in 200 years? How OP has Gryffindor been? It's also kind of funny that no matter what team is assembled they never seem to have any problems with inexperience, team chemistry or skill level (aside from Ron's confidence issues). It's just: team turns up, scores a few goals, opposition scores, Harry catches the snitch, the end. Gryffindor win... unless Harry's knocked out mid match. 3) I also find Rowling's take on teenage romance quite fascinating, as she seems to think that most teenagers go through their entire high school life being infatuated with just one or two people. She does this quite frequently too (Snape in particular). While this may be the case for some people. Most will move on pretty quickly if they feel they are getting nowhere with their current crush. I feel like Ginny, having gotten no attention from Harry previously would have moved on and come to consider Harry as more of a friend or brother overtime. Also, when was Ginny established as being "popular"? Amongst Harry, Hermione and that, sure. But she's always seen hanging out with like Neville and Luna etc, and aside from a brief fling with Michael Corner, who else does she hang out with? She's really only as popular as Hermione, or Ron. 4) It;s been established a couple of times, that Peeve's is susceptible to some spells. Why doesn't Harry invest in these whenever he is cornered by the Poltergeist? Langlock, that spell Lupin used to throw chewing gum into his outh and i'm sure, if these spells work on Peeve's then the silencing charm would also work. Get better at spells Harry! 5) It also bugs me that Harry, among other wizards, barely of age, are able to take on fully grown Death Eaters and live, while master wizards, some of whom are aurors barely make it out alive. Case and point: Harry seems to be the only one able to aim a curses (albeit, most of the time when the opponent isn't looking or from under an invisibility cloak). He stuns Yaxley down a flight of stairs and aims a curse at Rowle, who was raining down curses. Am I to believe that out of McGonagall, Tonks, Lupin etc only Harry had the inclination or the ability to do this? Also, in Deathly Hallows we see Parvati and Dean duelling Dolohiv and Yaxley. Dolohov had presumably just killed Remus Lupin at this point and I'm to believe Dean or Parvati were able to hold him off, until Harry arrived, cursing, again, from under the cloak?

@masongarrod6681

4 жыл бұрын

You criticise Ginny not moving on from Harry, yet literally mention Michael Corner in the same comment? And that's not even mentioning Dean Thomas. Ginny is only in her 5th year at Hogwarts, and she spent most of her first year being possessed, and following that has already had three love interests. This really seems like the exact antithesis to what you were claiming

@musichere3287

2 жыл бұрын

"Also, when was Ginny established as being popular" Half-blood Prince (chapter 7): "Potter, precious Potter, obviously he wanted a look at the Chosen One," sneered Malfoy, "but that Weasley girl! What's so special about her?" "A lot of boys like her," said Pansy, watching Malfoy out of the corner of her eyes for his reaction. "Even you think she's good-looking, don't you, Blaise, and we all know how hard you are to please!"

@occheermommy

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Ginny’s popularity is established several times. Harry even says she’s too popular for her own good.

@shadowscythe11

2 жыл бұрын

@@occheermommy I may not have worded my comment very well. It's not so much that I don't believe she was popular, it just seems to come up out of nowhere, because she always seems to be hanging out with the trio, so, like, when did she ever have a conversation with Dean? Anyway, it was only a tiny nitpick.

@Alex-02

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowscythe11 She does not usually hang with the trio, that only happens after Harry and Ginny get together. Also Ginny’s popularity does not come from nowhere its established many times throughout books four five and six.

Do we know exactly how old Voldemort was when he killed his father and grandparents? If he was 17, the trace would be gone, but he’d still be in school.

@Mandaiish

4 жыл бұрын

Think its mentioned he was 16

@straaths

4 жыл бұрын

He was 16, born december '26, murder happened summer 43'.

@majesticmicrobes60

4 жыл бұрын

Jakub Mintal was Morfin underage? Because we learn in the chamber of secrets, that the trace doesn’t necessarily show who did the magic, only that if it’s done near an underage wizard, it can be traced.

@Mandaiish

4 жыл бұрын

@@majesticmicrobes60 the harry potter wiki says he was born 1900 and he attacked tom riddle in 1925 so he was 25 I guess.

Did anyone notice that the Hand of Glory was mentioned in the book after four whole books and it just seemed to pop in because no one had ever talked about it before.

I wanted to talk about Katie Bell she said she went to her parents but then I saw your comment. Concerning Vanished objexts, in chapter 30 of books 7 McGonagall is asked where they go by the Ravenclaw common room door. Her answers, which was right was: "Into nonbeing, witch is to say everything." The door replies: "Nicely phrased."

I didn't know that Harry knows lifeguard tricks to get Dumbledore through the water ^^

I think Voldemort would have taken steps to remove his trace or block its detection as early as possible.

Perhaps Veritaserum does have a certain effect on your body, and Barty Jr. just didn't notice? I seem to remember he was in some sort of trance, completely enthralled by everything going on (and, if I'm not mistaken, Dumbledore had cast some sort of spell on him?). I guess a suspecting person like Slughorn would be alert all the time and would notice the effects immediately? Just a thought 🤷

With the Felix Felicis problem, I reckon it's a pretty standard lesson to show NEWT students in their first lesson all those amazing potions. So I reckon Snape had been brewing them the past 6 months to show the students. He wouldn't have known he'd be teaching DATDA instead.

I mean, Harry is basically a pro athlete by sixth year, so carrying a frail old man while swimming through breaking waters is slightly plausible...

@nont18411

4 жыл бұрын

Dirk Dykstra He’s simply Michael Phelps with excessive steroids

@drigondii

4 жыл бұрын

Nirawit Karnjanasomwong he did get practice swimming while carrying others during his fourth year, and he’d know the bubblehead charm by then. If you don’t have to worry about breathing, then you can just carry Dumbledore under the waves...

You made some great points as always! You should do these for Cursed Child after you do the main series ;D

I think Harry was able to apparate them to Hogsmeade from the edge of the cave. Dumbledore couldn't during the TO journey because he wasn't familiar with the location and didn't wanna take risks of inaccurate Apparition

‘Twas gunna say your thumb nail made me mad but your into made me happier thanks for clearing that right off the bat 😁

I love that "okay so" finally got acknowledged in a video hahaha

Great videos!

An easy way to fix that trace plothole would be by saying that instance was when the trace was officially enacted on minor witches.

What i think about the Veritaserum working diffrently on Slughorn vs Crouch is the fact from what i can remember is that Dumbledore fed Crouch Veritaserum when he was knocked out so that he couldn't put uo a fight to it vs if he did it to Slughorn is that he would have time to take an antidote in time to prevent it from having a full effect. That is just what i think but i could be wrong

10:20-10:22: "I don't know where things go when things are vanished". This was answered in the next book at the door to the Ravenclaw common room by McGonogall "Into non-being, which is to say, everything."

Thank you for this video. About the veritaserum: I always imagined that its use is limited. If sb doesen't know that he's put under the imerious curse, there's no way he could answer that question (as in Book 4 is shown that the casting wizard doesen't have to but may give verbal orders). Therefore the wizard-community is portraied as still one full of prejudice about blood-status (everybody mentions lineages throughout the series) in the HP-Series. They may decided to drop the topic before looking too close at the actions done by everybody. That would be very similar to the handling of the nazis after WWII.

My impression for the cave was that they had to swim getting there because they didn't know where the entrance was so the apparated far enough away to see it in approach, but they could just dissaparste when they left because they knew their exact destination then (hogsmead)

the only resaon I can think of for Slughorn to have a cauldron full of felix felicis would be if he were brewing it in order to sell vials of it. iirc there are several times in the book where he will allude to selling valuable things for money (like didn't he want some of aragog's venom?), so maybe that's why he had it?

on the trying to get back through the water one - maybe the tide went out? If not can't think how he managed it especially since in book 4 it's mentioned that he's not a strong swimmer, the only reason he managed with the second task was because he was using gilly weed

It’s also possible that when the ministry discovers magic being used in front of muggles simply by word of mouth. Either someone turns them in, or they hear about strange, possibly magical events through muggle news.

I regards to Tom Riddle's underage magic, I just assumed he had found a way to disable or trick the monitoring system. (Also, this is my favourite book of the seven :) )

I see like 3 copies of the hp books on the book shelf

I always thought the trace was a newer law that wasn't in place in V's time.

On the monitoring of minors use of magic, I think and it´s hinted at in the books is that it´s not the child that i monitored but regions. So the block Harry lives in is monitored, probably the region/block where every part on GB where there are residents is monitored. Putting the monitoring together with the documentation of where every magic-user lives, makes it possible for the ministry to guess who produced the magic. That could also be how the ministry finds new magic-users. This is what I think and how I after reading the book interpreted this.

I love these videos so much more than the reviews. Dunno why it's so fun to nit pick haha

Merph, Slughorn is always trying to make a knut. He brews a cauldron full of Felix to make Galleons

Here I can learn about books, get recommendations and improve my english. Thanks for that! :)

Maybe the tide was in when they swam to the cave and out when it was time to leave the cave... Tide flats are fairly easy to walk on and in some areas the tide can go out a 1/4 mile or more. Happens a lot on Puget Sound

The thing that confused be about the trace part, is that the ministry also seems to know WHICH spell is performed, they knew Harry did a Patronus, They knew it was a levitation charm that Dobby did, so when Tom modified his uncle's memory, they should know a memory modify charm was cast right? So they could have known that his memory was modified.

@hindigente

4 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting point.

What if Minister of Magic Death Eaters advocate against the use of the serum for their own selfish reasons and have paid some researchers to tell the wizard-kind that it's not usable if the user is aware of it to cover their own hides lol

If Merphy wrote a Harry Potter offshoot it would be "The Chronicles of Voldy and Dumbles"

Merphy, have you ever read any Hans Christian Andersen?

6:25 Protecting from Veritaserum works as Occlumency.

my theory on Slughorn and the felix is, it was part of the lesson plan Snape had developed for that year.

Also, veritaserum have a stronger effect in Targets that are unwaere, but it is works if they know they drink it

I guess I'd just assumed that the magical wards only made it so it was difficult to get to the cave but difficult to leave the cave, sort of like a one-way magical block. It's amazing the amount of work readers go to to come up with explanations for things authors don't wrap up neatly within their texts, isn't it?

The deatheaters claimed there were under the effects of the imperious curse. So they might confess but then just claim they were not in control, vold could have even at one point placed them under the curse for a short time to make them not lie when asked if they were being controlled.

They coundn't skip the water the first time becouse you can't apparate to a place you have never been to. So the inside of the cave (that part were they needed blood to enter) was impossible to apperate in. But the river was just in the way becouse both never where behind that river before.