"Slowly becoming less toxic to the meta" Raise your hand if you remember the GR1 at 9.3.

@ODST_Parker

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I almost never saw them even then, when I was grinding the G.91s and CL-13 Mk.4. I only ever saw tons of AV-8As, only a Harrier once in a blue moon. Now they're at 10.0, and since I get up-tiered to 11.3 anyway, I still never see them in the F-104s.

@blobert62

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, yes I do. It was stupid fun to play back then but it was also absolutely terrible to fight against

@Trojanponey

2 жыл бұрын

No, but I do remember the G.91 that was toxic as hell for a while.

@Desi_Nehra

2 жыл бұрын

@@ODST_Parker weird how matchmaking and rng works for different people. I fly F104-A and I run into a lot of GR1 (I would say 1 in every 3 games has a GR1 for me.)

@Topo842

2 жыл бұрын

Oh I remember those GR.1 Now I use my AV-8C to take down all the GR.1's I see

It's gonna be interesting to see where planes such as the Harrier GR.7 and AV-8B fit in the tree...

@imperialenforcer2271

2 жыл бұрын

We don't need more cancer. There's already enough of it in game

@marmite8959

2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see the Sea Harrier in-game, it had RADAR and could carry AMRAAMs lol. Maybe it'll have to wait until we get Rank VIII and F-14s, Panavia Tornadoes, MiG-29 maybe, etc. As it is the Harriers aren't cancer, people who complain just have a skill issue. They're easy to take down if you know what you're doing, especially GR.1s which don't even have RWR or flares

@m1a1abrams3

2 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see the Harrier gr.3. It had aim9-L’s

@CowBeatsCrow

2 жыл бұрын

@@imperialenforcer2271 The "Harriers are cancer" schtick was valid when they were added and the GR1 was at 9.3 or 9.7 with SRAAMs. It's hardly a problem anymore, and the later variants he's talking about would be nowhere near those BR's. Probably at least 10.7 or so. All the other variants have AIM-9G's so it's easy to dodge them, whereas the SRAAMs are literally impossible to dodge unless you have flares. I would love more Harriers to go along with the Air RB EC maps.

@marmite8959

2 жыл бұрын

@@m1a1abrams3 The GR.3 is already in game, they've only given it AIM-9Gs because Gaijin doesn't want all-aspect IR missiles for countries other than Russia 🙄

The GR.3 is still my go to CAS for Britain from 9.7 all the way to 11.3. With the SNEB loadout you get 72 very good rockets with High penetration and an accurate Ballistics Computer, and with how many IFV's roam around its easy to rack up 2-5 kills per flight. And even when you do run out of Rockets the ADENS with Ground Belts pack a hard punch. Also VIFF'ing is much more useful in Ground battles compared to Air battles, since you can get uninterrupted 1v1's thanks to the lack of markers and dropping all your speed to meme someone with Thrust Vectoring is a lot more forgiving when there isn't a third player zooming at you at Mach 1.

You make the best reviews for vehicles out of any other WT youtuber atm. Thank you.

@TimsVariety

2 жыл бұрын

.. and there are more than 50 of them to binge on!!! ;-)

@bangyahead1

7 ай бұрын

@@TimsVariety But only one that's worth a damn, mate. ;)

Important to note that, at full deflection, the nozzles are angled 100°. When trying to take off this way, it _will_ push you back quite a bit. Stick to 90-80% with your hover binds.

One thing your forgot to mention is that in ground RB you can land at a heli base to re-arm and then you are given an air spawn right above it. This is the same for all VTOL aircraft in game.

@ironhide_1012

2 жыл бұрын

Why It drop 2 bombs at once. It reduce the bombing runs and kills. Hope guijin will fix it

The P.1154 was the proposed supersonic successor to the Kestrel and Harrier. Kestrel was P.1127 and Harrier was developed from it.

@Then.72

2 жыл бұрын

The British engineers made the design but the government wouldn’t fund it

I love how you go into depth into the planes not just how that play in the game that makes the vid way better keep it up

@bangyahead1

7 ай бұрын

You mean "Watch my epene" clips

I can't play any of these yet, but whenever we get the AV-8B Harrier II, here's hoping Italy will get it! Since they were added to War Thunder, I remembered how much I love the design.

@Parabueto

2 жыл бұрын

If you really like the AV-8B the version in DCS is really good. Basically sim only though; but the array of mission profiles you can do is far better than WT.

@ODST_Parker

2 жыл бұрын

@@Parabueto Yeah, I have absolutely no interest in DCS.

@spamjosh6526

4 ай бұрын

you were right!

@ODST_Parker

4 ай бұрын

@@spamjosh6526And sadly, I'm nowhere closer to getting it. Gave up the top-tier grind because it's just so much unnecessary torture. Even playing a spaded F-16A feels awful.

If you keep the harrier above 4000 feet its engine cools, it's not too useful all the time but it can give you a cold engine for a back track through the map at lower altitudes, tou can also take off vertically and pitch up at around 100 meters while punching full throttle and with it's insane performance you will climb vertically

dont forget that all the harriers get a lot of flares, except for the GR.1, which doesnt get any at all

@TransportSupremo

2 жыл бұрын

Definition of glass cannon. It gets near a plane with no flares, kills it. A plane with good missiles gets behind it, dead

Great review of the family of legendary machines, the SHAR especially is just a stellar aircraft with its involvement in the Falklands

@bangyahead1

7 ай бұрын

Was kind of useless in Desert Storm without runways, like helicopters, because with verticle take-off or landing, the enemy could see dust could they kicked up from 50 miles away.

mmm yes, my tim's variety copium

This thing always kills me in my f104A. Thank you for the review Sir!

@bravoalpha101st

2 жыл бұрын

:troll: harrier gang go brrrrrrr

@NewerSing

2 жыл бұрын

I had never been killed by an IR missile in F104, it's very fast and most missiles can't keep up, roll and accelerate that much

@idonotknowwhattonamemyself2197

2 жыл бұрын

You tried kill me but you kill yourself

2:17 You are mistaken here I'm afraid. The Hawker Kestrel was the type flown by the tripartite squadron, still being an offshoot of the P.1127 design, which I believe is Hawker's internal designation. the RAF called it Kestrel FGA.1 The P.1154 on the other hand was a proposed supersonic development of the harrier, using a plenum chamber for the afterburner. It was never built.

@TimsVariety

2 жыл бұрын

Good catch - used the wrong part of my notes. :-)

love the videos your voice is perfect for this i feel like im watching a matt wagner video

Love your videos. Very entertaining

SRAAMS aka "Shamking missiles" Yew got a loicence to shtab that F-5C? "I got me a loicence roight 'ere *BY THE QUEEN* "

wow this is exactly what i was looking for

Harriers, one of my favourite targets with the Sabre So many new players thought they can do some stupid crap only to stall themselves right infront of my 50 cals

@TransportSupremo

2 жыл бұрын

Sabre is so maneuverable its so hard to hit in the wobbly harrier. Grinding my stock bri ish one was painful

@ovrwrldkiler

2 жыл бұрын

@@TransportSupremo At least the missile grind is pretty easy on both the tech tree ones. Aim9g in t2 means you only need to suffer two upgrades before you get them.

@db4ch

Жыл бұрын

you act like you dont need to dump like 300 rounds into it lol

Awesome content!

The vectoring thrust works well in game for turns. Though you dont want to jam them 100% forward. Somewhere between 30 and 50% are the best. They push you through the turn rather than just trying to slow you to get the better turning.

thank you so much for answering my request!!! loved the video

I love this plane, it’s my favorite strike aircraft and I’ve taken the a10 into consideration but the evasive maneuvers, extremely powerful air to ground dumb fire missiles, it’s acceleration and it’s ability to re-arm in no time puts it very far above any strike aircraft I’ve played

would love an updated one of these

You can actually use 100% (nozzle down position) and 100% thrust in conjunction with airbrake, to slow down faster than 0% thrust and airbrake.... it just makes conventional landings this much faster and easier, as you bleed speed off without having to fishtail

Best KZread Channel .❤️

I hope the AV8B+ gets added soon for USA and Italy

@Shelterock69

10 ай бұрын

It is being added for italy next update

Hey, really minor correction. The water involved in vertical landing here 11:14 isn't actually for engine cooling necessarily, it's a water spray for the intake which cools incoming air and produces additional thrust. The in-game harrier uses it for its WEP mode.

Great videos as always. I'm not sure if I am miss understanding what you are saying or not but the US AV-8A doesn't have RWR either

GR1 and GR3 were for the Royal Air Force (RAF) . Royal Navy brought the Sea Harrier FRS-1

Thrust vectoting is vital to use in this plane if you want to get the full experience. Going to 15% in turns and while facing oponents in delta wings going 90 or 100 so you can cut in and avoid them getting guns on. Also reversing targets going full vector then back to 0 and trying to get guns on target. The harrier isnt a comparable dogfighter to planes at the br when in an equal situation. But its low speed climb rate means you shouldnt get into even sitiations willingly

It's easier and faster just to land the "old way", brakes are great and you are not a sitting duck. It goes the same way for taking off

@poependeoma_4

2 жыл бұрын

brakes ?

@spartan-s013

2 жыл бұрын

@@poependeoma_4 yes brakes

@spartan-s013

2 жыл бұрын

@@natfrailadler1995 that was poor

very helpful!

I just finished spading the AV-8C the other day and man did I have fun. I went like 140 kills and about 30 some deaths. I was only disappointed by the AIM-9Gs..people be dodging 18g missiles a little too easily (yeah you MiG-21)

@roadhigher

2 жыл бұрын

AIM-9G's are great for long range sneak launches, but are very easy to throw off if launched too close. AIM-9G's have a very large lead angle, and if the player is smart then they just have to turn one way for a while and then the other, and the AIM-9G will have overlead them too much to turn back in.

@vale.44peru

2 жыл бұрын

Im trying to spade it rn, but I have no idea on how to play it, I know that you shouldn’t dogfight with it, but without a good top speed (compared to what’s at 9.7 these days) or good performance at altitude doesn’t look good as a boom and zoom fighter. So I just keep getting clapped by P2W mig-21s

@Revi0us

2 жыл бұрын

I'm having waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more fun with the A-10A Late than I have with the AV-8. I gave up on the AV-8 basically.

Gr1 in sraam mode I highly recommend side climb to 4000m at least then dive on your enemy, you can intercepts ant jet and launch the sraam

One very minor note, the Harrier GR.1 was produced for the RAF, not the Royal Navy. The Navy didn't get their navalised Sea Harriers until the late 70s.

Great video Tim!

Crazy game, I was playing when I ended up on the far side of what looked like mars ,the f22 I was in had OMS engine's, totally trippy glitch

Anyone else hope to see this sea harrier at 10.3? (Radar, aim-9L, up to 4 missiles, antiship missiles(if they ever get added), 2 AMRAMMs, rocket pods with 51 rockets each, and Falklands war camo) Anyone else want the harrier 2?

Yes!

Pegasus engine was initially developed by Bristol.

I've been using vectoring to turn faster and man it's fun and confuses enemies a lot.

I'm considering buying the AV-8 during the summer sales, would you recommend it?

I remember flying a MiG-23MF and seeing one of these Harriers on the enemy team Safe to say, he got immediately shot down

the opposite actually: the harrier (at least the av8s with their better engines) perfom very well at high alts and can use to BnZ enemies. the aim9G is substentially more powerfull on higher alts.

Waiting for more Harriers gaijib!

In defense put nozzles at 30%, throttle at 90% if desperate at 100%, vector to home base, keep speed above 900 km/h, canser roll, flare and You can defend Yourself for ages. With takeoff flaps plus nozzles at 40% harrier is decent one circle fighter.

Well I woke up for work this morning, and realized it was a holiday. Happy MLK day Tim!

I have 4k GE left and passed on the jan sale. Looking for other planes to get as Mig21s wont be on sale till maybe Q3 of 2022. Next sale maybe I'd get harrier instead

@Nagib23_32

2 жыл бұрын

Don't get the harrier GR1. It's simply trash. SRAAM are nerfed into the ground, they have no range (they won't reach if you're shooting at a supersonic target from 800 meters away, any closer than that is basically gun range), plane itself has no countermeasures, RWR or even flight performance. Hold on to your SL. I recommend you buy instead the F-89, Su-11, Sea Vixen, Shenyang F-5 or SAAB-105OE. All of these are good aircraft for grinding their trees, however the SAAB and Shenyang require a decent chunk of skill to use, the rest are very straight forward

Could you start putting timestamps for different sections of the video?

I thought the harrier 2 was a collaboration upgrade between the US and UK?

Can you do a video on the yak38?

They locked the pitchcontroll when going below 100 km/h so you are forced to do it that way, witch I don't like. Also "full down" is actually a bit to the front

Very good video. Could you do either the F-4F or MiG-21MF (both in the German tree)?

@elkrumb9159

2 жыл бұрын

I hate the F-4F

@yummyzerg

2 жыл бұрын

@@elkrumb9159 As do I.

I am finding ZERO success with the GR1 or the US AV8C. So far I regret buying both.

@snwilliam6886

2 жыл бұрын

As owners of gr1 and AV8a, know the harriers family is not a turn fighter but rather strike. They accelerated in climbing rate, so fast at climbing that most opponent I've fight stall too soon catching me (even if they're using missiles on you, USA harriers countermeasures might help). If you got issues with the aim 9g then it's not your skill issues, it's the game itself. War thunder missiles system always have buggy mechanism which led to thin air tracking. But other than that, the harrier might be a love hate relationship and I'd guarantee that I would rather use the harriers than the hunters. Don't give up bruv :)

Call me weird, but any video I see with the word "Explained" in the title gets that channel an instant "Don't Recommend Channel" click. I think that term is offensive, like the viewer is so stupid that they need everything explained to them, which is an insult to the viewers intelligence. A Detailed Review means what it says and yours usually includes a bit of a "How I use it," and "How I set it up" which maintains a level of respect to the viewer. Because those factors are included, along with a bit of history, your reviews are never a "Watch My Epene" segment (unlike all the other so-called reviewers..) Tim's Variety War Thunder is clearly far superior to every "Review" channel on KZread, and if you havent subscribed, do so. (I NEVER recommend subs, and my doing so for your channel says alot.) Another thing I love is you dont feel the need to beg for likes and subscribes, which gets an instant Like (but I'm already a subscriber so meh) Sometimes the beggers feel a need to flash a graphic for Likes and Subscribes, as well as saying it, which makes me do neither. Call me an @$$hole, but that's t he way it is. If people like your content, they will give likes and probably subscribe. Begging has the oppisite effect on me. I do neither. All things considered, this video gets 11 out of 10, like the rest of your clips ;)

THX

Idk about the british harriers but us ones are so good and fun to fly. Rwr at that br atleast for us tech tree is non existent so thats really nice. And i think the biggest false flag that turns people away from the av-8 is the perception of speed. It does top out at a substantially lower speed than most jets at or above that br. Similair to a su-25 on paper. However theres so much power in the engines that your litterally like always going at that speed. To me it has great energy retention and in a vertical climb your engines have the power to keep you from bleeding speed at the same rate as other fighters. Idk to me this plane is the work horse of the tech tree. I thought it would suck. Unlocked it in the tech tree after getting f5e and f8e unlocked so i was playing in higher br with it and it has been slapping for me lol. Love supringly great planes. And the vtol function is great for ground battles where you can play heli or fighter jet with mighty mouse rockets or capping points. Very unique and surprisingly very enjoyable to fly. Havnt fucked around with it in realistic ab yet just ground rb yet as im still spading it but arcade. It slaps. Sure its similair in realistic just perhaps not flown as hardcore as i do it. Not sure the airframes physical limitations before wings tear if they do.

anyone know if the AV8C gets counter measures?

I wish you would do full review of Harrier GR.1 with changes to BR and nerfs to SRAAM and new plane additions i dont think it is good plane anymore. (getting killed 90th time this week by Aim-9L starts to get really boring really fast with plane without any Flares. You encounter a lot of A10's)

British premium harrier should have the option of using sidewinders or SRAAM, Considering the late one was only a test weapon, and it sucks in game.

I dont think that Harrier as a POUR maneuverabilitie, the maneuverabilitie is pretty good if you use flaps and vtol at same time, that make to bleed a lot of energy but are really good on vertical turns and scissors

Wish we had the frs when the review was done

@TimsVariety

11 ай бұрын

.. soon ..

@camilorodriguez5602

11 ай бұрын

@@TimsVariety 😱

Are they still good for bombing bases? Specifically the AV8. I've seen people just go for bombing bases and do good. Not really try and fight in them

The av8c does have a warning receiver

@imperialenforcer2271

2 жыл бұрын

And flares

I'm definitely sure they would have a higher BR if they weren't premiums as lvl 12 tankers decide to main it

@TransportSupremo

2 жыл бұрын

Not a chance. The the harriers with aim9gs are not in any way 10.0 material. And the gr1 is not 10.3 material. Its just not even an option. Go look at the tech tree versions, at the same br as the premium

Hi Tims, would u suggest to buy the F-5C or the AV-8(the premium one) to grind trough the US?

@TimsVariety

2 жыл бұрын

Test-Fly the hell out of both of them, and pick the one you think you're better with. The plane is only as effective as the pilot, and everyone has a different playstyle.

@tavolo2969

2 жыл бұрын

@@TimsVariety ok thanks, I test fly both of them almost everyday, but I’m still not sure

Hey Tim, missile question for you. Do you have an opinion on what the strongest IR AAM is in game atm? I ask because I have very little experience in high tier air combat (virtually none) and some of the folks I talk to in various communities all say different, and often contradictory things. Some believe in their heart of hearts that the R60s are broken and should be completely removed from the game, others think that the AIM-9Gs are better. Do you have any thoughts you'd be willing to share?

@TimsVariety

2 жыл бұрын

The R-24T is probably the best overall missile in the game right now.

@elkrumb9159

2 жыл бұрын

@Spiritius id say that R-60Ms are no where near “OP” very easily flared and don’t have that much range when compared to its contemporaries,

@elkrumb9159

2 жыл бұрын

R-60s and Matra Magics are probably the best dogfight missiles but are extremely easily flareable when compared to AIM-9Js and Gs, R-60s in my opinion are true dogfight misiles having amazing high aspect performance at close range but that’s about their only advantage, they lack the range Js or Gs have and the flare resistance too.

@Coliflower185

2 жыл бұрын

for dogfighting, the magic is the best ir. for long range, the R24T is the best ir and the best radar is either the Aim-7E2 if you are stupid, or the aim-7F if you have a brain

15:22 you forgot to add that harrier has mig rated armor

so this is the plane im gonna get because this is the type of flyer i am

I feel bad for the GR.1 owners now. It’s 10.0, gets the shortest range missiles In the game that can only fly for 3.7 seconds, has no flares, is sub sonic, and only has dumb munitions. Compare that to the 9.7 frogfoot with its Kh-25’s, flare setups, and 6km lock missiles that also lock all-aspect at 3km. It really got shafted being put at 10.0. Why would something with 2km max missile range and no flares have to fight MiG-23M’s with radar missiles?

@mikewizz1895

Жыл бұрын

I started spading the Hunter f6 when it was 10.3 a few months ago and it was surprisingly one of the easiest jets to spade for me

🎵 Helicopter, Helicopter 🎵

@TimsVariety

2 жыл бұрын

Patience, patience!!! The vids can only render so quickly!!! ;-)

Is it bad I can dogfight in a harrier?

It's funny how unplayable the GR1 is now compared to how it used to be - no flares or countermeasures and every opponent having all-aspect or radar-guided missiles while most opponents have countermeasures. Amusing to see the old videos describing it as toxic and cancerous when in the present meta it can't even survive to make a kill.

Gotta be careful taking off with hover mode

they removed the airspawn for most things at that br, so watch out

can you do the mig 21 family?

@TimsVariety

2 жыл бұрын

I've generally been doing the Mig-21 family individually - 3 are up so far, 4 if you include the J-7E

you said its not good in hugher altitudes however only good tactic in antiair fight is to dive on someone from high altitude :D

@TimsVariety

2 жыл бұрын

Combat tactics aren't related to flight performance. A lot of aircraft perform better/worse in mission profiles that work well in war thunder's game modes.

By no means an expert, but a sim player. VIFFING in combat use 10-15%... Short take off 0% full throttle then 20-30% over 100mph. To not overheat in sim 60 to 75% throttle when your over 600mph. She's a handful in turn combat. Use your roll rate acceleration and the terrane + airbrake and hover to hide in the riverbeds and mountains to get way when in trouble. I hated the premium British harrier (way over tier in sim) so got the AV in sale aswell.. The AV is alot better at it's BR

You forgot to show that it can be land in helipads on ground rb

@TimsVariety

2 жыл бұрын

Well, I kindof assumed that was a given, since it can land .. pretty much anywhere .. :-)

How do you un-lock the missile seeker from whatever it has locked currently? I've seen you do it in a few videos and I can't figure it out.

@TimsVariety

2 жыл бұрын

If you hit your keybind for lock missile a second time, it will de-spool the weapon. I think I mentioned it in my guide to air to air missiles.

@TacgnolSimulacrum

2 жыл бұрын

@@TimsVariety I didn't recall that, but that would explain why I can't, as I just use the "fire" button to spool them up.

@TimsVariety

2 жыл бұрын

@@TacgnolSimulacrum I do the same - I use the spacebar as my "fire" button, which also spools the weapon, but I added number 4 as a keybind for , I think "lock air to air missile" , which de-spools it if its already locked.

AV8-A doesnt get RWR

Odd question but how were you able to match speed with the carrier in the outro?

@TimsVariety

2 жыл бұрын

Very carefully..... (landed, then took off)

@Kinghans-fc1do

2 жыл бұрын

@@TimsVariety well done!

Given I'm not a WT player, this is probably the most hated airplane added to the game that I know of. Especially the premium version with the SRAAM missiles.

@elkrumb9159

2 жыл бұрын

It was, at 9.3 it could fight planes that never should of even fought it, and it was even ahistorical considering the GR.1 never carried SRAAMs in RL but now that it basically faces Phantoms and MiG-21s and it’s not really hated any more

Gr3 or gr5. Or sea harrier FAW. THATS A PINACLE V/STOL

Harrier is pretty fun to fly in arcade, the overheat problem is gone and you can climb like a rocket lol

Does anyone know when Israel's aircraft will be released to everyone? You need to be a "tester" to be able to buy the first aircraft

@grikkajunior

2 жыл бұрын

End of jan

Honestly I’m not sure what to think about this plane, more than 50% of the time I get killed around br 9.7 is due to a harrier or AV8 that got up to space with air spawn and missiled me from behind when I’m still on "my team’s half" of the battlefield and it feels cancerous. I’d honestly like to fly it but I don’t wanna be part of the problem I criticize

@imperialenforcer2271

2 жыл бұрын

inb4 Freeaboos say this is skill issue

The Gr3 is the best harrier for 1 reason It's boop snoot

@whiskersthecatboi

2 жыл бұрын

I like more the ones that have the short round nose like GR.1

@tazzie165

2 жыл бұрын

@@whiskersthecatboi yeah but, when u put your head to the front of the cockpit, u can't see snoot

Stay away from the trust vectoring except to take off, and land. Thrust vectoring maneuvers are stupid, and will get you killed. That being said in ground RB you can land and take off much faster and you can use the helicopter base. That is what you are really paying for if you get the premium, and It pays for itself real quickly.

bs you can beat almost everyting in a turn fight with trust vectoring you yust be slow and an easy target 4 the oter enemys

the nightmare of every su7 in game

16:30 you don't take off on a short deck with vertical take off, you land on it with vertical. That's dumb to even show that. You take off with the short take off and land vertical.

Forgot to talk about the stealth coating on every AV-8A that saw service smh

@imperialenforcer2271

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't make much difference

I hate this plane so much it made my entire 8.7-9.7 expirience a pain fucking aim9G's when nobodys having flares av8a and av8c

@TimsVariety

2 жыл бұрын

If you haven't seen it, find my review of the A-5C. You'll find it .. therapeutic .. ;-)

@imperialenforcer2271

2 жыл бұрын

inb4 Freeaboos yell skill issue